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Post by litteleven on Oct 5, 2021 14:42:35 GMT
punning on stuff "player meta" "cognition" i'm trolling the thing is like, I feel like the quo/wall not w/w read off what you quoted is a reach if you didn't factor meta in some fashion because it's such a natural way to put distancing in early when the thread is new like if it's fakable for me I'd assume it's fakable for wallape and I don't see the line where you conclusively draw that it can't happen that early into the day i think the extent to which meta is involved here is a Stretch
everything wallape has done is extremely fakeable, that's not under discussion & is a point i would've made in maybe fewer words than most folks in this thread
the last line is the bit that disqualifies w/w for me, bc it's contrary to the would-be advantages of engaging in that kind of theater
i do not know where "earliness" factored into any of this; that's something you brought up
thumbs i missed your angle
[that early into the day]
what bothered me a bit too there is that quo's response to wall seemed just pensive about wall's alignment and failed to develop from a q asked
reframing in non w/w worlds is probably going to make me lean quo>wall in scum equity? if that makes sense
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Post by Sheep★Go★Moo on Oct 5, 2021 14:43:42 GMT
Voting someone voting you =/= Omgus, when it has reasoning. Am IIOA’ing rn but mainly to just help get some actual reads out of it
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Post by Sheep★Go★Moo on Oct 5, 2021 14:46:10 GMT
also imma just vote quo for the meantime idk why i said i would wait kek Defeating pressure by saying this but this is a pressure vote to get you back in the game more than anything, quite frankly more OMGUS than what Wallape did |
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Post by litteleven on Oct 5, 2021 14:46:13 GMT
hm I see Personally think it's a very scummy post Like first reason to scumread me is very vague, and he recognizes its vague and doesn't want to vote me based on that sole reason so that's why he adds the meta part The worst part is that the meta references feel just as empty as the first reason to vote me, like "he's scummier here so let's vote him" but why am I scummier? What parts are different? I was bordering on the line of too scummy to be scum for a bit but it's pretty opportunistic since it comes when I'm under heavy fire already god i wanna say wall is town purely because i want to believe scum doesn't disintegrate this hard day 1 but at the same time man ur really not helping urself from what i read ur getting sr'ed cuz 1-drawing a town read out of literal thin air 2-omgus voting pattern (granted this may have happened after this post but the fact ur calling someone scummy for sr'ing u with literally no evidence to backup any sort of claim doesn't help imo) 3-statements that have quite literally added 0 to this game (granted not the only person to be guilty of this) although like i said for now i'm willing to die on my hill of this being bad town also whilst i'm here Unvote ddlc will just say 1 is thread misinterpeted info passed down the grapevine 2 is probs something worth looking into narrative, noted 3 is because wall MUs and MU spams stuff out there in general also, i have seen ddlc bad town and this is not ddlc bad town. he is getting what's coming to him once he gets here. |
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Post by Sheep★Go★Moo on Oct 5, 2021 14:48:13 GMT
Furthermore ddlc has done nothing but filler through this day, which is somewhat fine in ps! Day one, but with forum games their should be some form of contribution imo
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Post by Sheep★Go★Moo on Oct 5, 2021 14:50:41 GMT
Power Rangers, it’s turbo time! Vote Wallape which power ranger's saving you this game to be pedantic doesn't pass stated format wonder if there's any conclusions to be made from jumping head first into the thread Also I haven’t see an explanation of what you concluded from this, unless I’m smoothbraining, there was an elude to it, but not further |
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Post by Sheep★Go★Moo on Oct 5, 2021 14:53:40 GMT
Also another rambling of wallape vs Litt having a high chance of being town vs town.
Oh
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Post by litteleven on Oct 5, 2021 14:56:50 GMT
which power ranger's saving you this game to be pedantic doesn't pass stated format wonder if there's any conclusions to be made from jumping head first into the thread Also I haven’t see an explanation of what you concluded from this, unless I’m smoothbraining, there was an elude to it, but not further basically [person jumped in without reading fully] = [less careful] = [town] wolves are generally more likely to be cautious at posting and try to learn everything they can before posting? generally obviously weak read but motivation unspotted while I felt people should easily see it? idk |
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Post by litteleven on Oct 5, 2021 14:57:56 GMT
Furthermore ddlc has done nothing but filler through this day, which is somewhat fine in ps! Day one, but with forum games their should be some form of contribution imo this is a bad post because ddlc has atleast 1 post of content that requires analysis, no thread erasure |
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Post by wallape on Oct 5, 2021 15:07:27 GMT
Voting someone voting you =/= Omgus, when it has reasoning. Am IIOA’ing rn but mainly to just help get some actual reads out of it preach god i wanna say wall is town purely because i want to believe scum doesn't disintegrate this hard day 1 but at the same time man ur really not helping urself from what i read ur getting sr'ed cuz 1-drawing a town read out of literal thin air 2-omgus voting pattern (granted this may have happened after this post but the fact ur calling someone scummy for sr'ing u with literally no evidence to backup any sort of claim doesn't help imo) 3-statements that have quite literally added 0 to this game (granted not the only person to be guilty of this) although like i said for now i'm willing to die on my hill of this being bad town also whilst i'm here Unvote ddlc will just say 1 is thread misinterpeted info passed down the grapevine 2 is probs something worth looking into narrative, noted 3 is because wall MUs and MU spams stuff out there in general also, i have seen ddlc bad town and this is not ddlc bad town. he is getting what's coming to him once he gets here. he's calling me bad town not ddlc fwiw 2 is entirely wrong and ive not omgussed anyone unless you want to call my vote on vetpadge omgus when his post is really wolfy, what do u think about that post? Furthermore ddlc has done nothing but filler through this day, which is somewhat fine in ps! Day one, but with forum games their should be some form of contribution imo what do you think about the one post of content he made |
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Post by litteleven on Oct 5, 2021 15:20:42 GMT
well, omgus voting is not the line of inquiry I have here. you're pushing someone who has an fos on you based on their fos which is something savable when determining the overall narrative of how you play
"wallape finds vet padge's sr on him scummy instead of trying to guide it into a proper read on them" -> is the takeaway, right?
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[will catch up later cause irl]
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Post by Sheep★Go★Moo on Oct 5, 2021 15:59:25 GMT
Townie post Specifically the "my faction will win", think scum!litt wouldn't be so arrogant; also not mentioning which faction he is because if I was scum I'd specifically try to integrate me being town into the sentence Why would you ever vote sleep though This is quite an interesting response. I dont get the same vibes and i believe you may be trying to find a townread without considering that litt could be saying things just to say them. I believe you trying to force reads when nothing is out of scum!litts capabilitys. I wonder how willing you would be look past your assumptions or if you already have litt townlocked. There really isn’t much analysis that can be done, when a read is based on “vibes”. But what i’m willing to say is there is some form of analysis in “ I believe you trying to force reads when nothing is out of scum!litts capabilitys”, however they don’t refer to any alignment lean/read + they don’t wait for a reply/speak on this again. |
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Post by BoredGames on Oct 5, 2021 16:06:23 GMT
So we avoid wall post spam I’ll explain my 2nd point better here for wall’s sake
Essentially it’s what litt said about essentially having fos on vet for them having fos on u and the continuous asking for opinions about their said vote on u, which comes across as either wanting validation for the vote or fishing for reasons to justify it, neither come across well
“Voting pattern” was a bad way to go about phrasing that I apologise I couldn’t think of a better way at the time
Fyi I’ll go re-read vet’s stuff and make a comment on it next cuz fuck it I’ll take the bait
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Post by BoredGames on Oct 5, 2021 16:17:35 GMT
Vote wallapeFeel like they are scum from interaction with litt but not sure why. The one thing I can say is that I've played with wallape in countdown, and I've played with wallape in this game, and this game seems scummier. I don't have any alignment thoughts on litt right now. So looking at this it’s essentially meta voting (which is bad usually and probably worse on forums but we move) and honestly wanna say it’s thinly veiled rvs I’ll give wall some validation here that this post itself is bad and doesn’t make vet look townie at all, although I still maintain that the constant asking for others opinions and basically admitting ur own thoughts without ever explaining it well is still bad Anyways, vet I want more details on your thoughts on the litt wall interactions, in particular what seems strange or out of place that would’ve made u vote wall because even if u wanna claim its a gut read there has to be a line somewhere that gives u that impression Also I want u to consider litt’s alignment again, why did u think the interactions gave away wall’s alignment but not litt’s and has your opinion on litt’s alignment changed? Finally I want u to consider everyone else and see if u have anymore reads and reasoning for those reads, if u don’t have any just admit that |
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Post by litteleven on Oct 5, 2021 16:22:31 GMT
well, omgus voting is not the line of inquiry I have here. you're pushing someone who has an fos on you based on their fos which is something savable when determining the overall narrative of how you play "wallape finds vet padge's sr on him scummy instead of trying to guide it into a proper read on them" -> is the takeaway, right? ... [will catch up later cause irl] right so first off applying my get out of jail free pass from countdown to not analyse vp's opening post too deeply stopping this train of thought for now; will revisit it maybe in the future with more content from vp specifically thinking it has relevance but is not something I'd consider content will let it resolve in thread hopefully |
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Post by litteleven on Oct 5, 2021 16:34:55 GMT
This is quite an interesting response. I dont get the same vibes and i believe you may be trying to find a townread without considering that litt could be saying things just to say them. I believe you trying to force reads when nothing is out of scum!litts capabilitys. I wonder how willing you would be look past your assumptions or if you already have litt townlocked. There really isn’t much analysis that can be done, when a read is based on “vibes”. But what i’m willing to say is there is some form of analysis in “ I believe you trying to force reads when nothing is out of scum!litts capabilitys”, however they don’t refer to any alignment lean/read + they don’t wait for a reply/speak on this again. distinctly the thought of "wallape forcing reads" does not fit in with the nature of wallape's posting in my eyes there's some degree of WIM (Wants It More) from wallape with respect to trying to make something out of nothing through the phase that like, justifies a lot of these openers but is glossed over here? |
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Post by passthesaltdude on Oct 5, 2021 16:42:23 GMT
Furthermore ddlc has done nothing but filler through this day, which is somewhat fine in ps! Day one, but with forum games their should be some form of contribution imo I don’t like this for a couple of reasons 1- It does disregard everything DDLC has said which kind of just throws away a slot as unreadable which never seems productive to me 2- It reads as if Sheep has never played a game with DDLC especially with the lines of “But with forum games there should be some form of contribution imo” Which makes it like they don’t know that DDLC does this all the time. Anyways that’s just my two cents there before I forget about it and this thread |
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Post by passthesaltdude on Oct 5, 2021 16:44:47 GMT
There really isn’t much analysis that can be done, when a read is based on “vibes”. But what i’m willing to say is there is some form of analysis in “ I believe you trying to force reads when nothing is out of scum!litts capabilitys”, however they don’t refer to any alignment lean/read + they don’t wait for a reply/speak on this again. distinctly the thought of "wallape forcing reads" does not fit in with the nature of wallape's posting in my eyes there's some degree of WIM (Wants It More) from wallape with respect to trying to make something out of nothing through the phase that like, justifies a lot of these openers but is glossed over here? Thoughts on a potential Ddlc+Sheep partnership where Sheep is trying to disregard reads/thoughts on the DDLC slot with just “there’s nothing to look at here I hope this slot does more” otherwise their post about DDLC just feels out of place and unnecessary |
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Post by wallape on Oct 5, 2021 16:46:27 GMT
So we avoid wall post spam I’ll explain my 2nd point better here for wall’s sake Essentially it’s what litt said about essentially having fos on vet for them having fos on u and the continuous asking for opinions about their said vote on u, which comes across as either wanting validation for the vote or fishing for reasons to justify it, neither come across well “Voting pattern” was a bad way to go about phrasing that I apologise I couldn’t think of a better way at the time Fyi I’ll go re-read vet’s stuff and make a comment on it next cuz fuck it I’ll take the bait Bruh i don't want validation for the read I want ppl to actually look at him and maybe even vote him because that's the wagon I want atm and he seems to be fairly glossed over atm I don't need justification either because I've already justified Vote itself is opportunistic, reason feels extremely flimsy, meta addition feels like a necessary add on he needs to put there because otherwise the vote would feel too weak rather than being an actual thought Like iyam "is scummier" does not fit in with meta; meta == specific stuff that you're doing differently wrt your other alignment games and it doesn't look he finds a real difference bc if he did he would mention it instead of just saying "is scummier". That's why it looks like something he felt he needed to add to the post Idrk how to best explain it tbh but I hope you get my view better now |
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Post by wallape on Oct 5, 2021 16:47:59 GMT
distinctly the thought of "wallape forcing reads" does not fit in with the nature of wallape's posting in my eyes there's some degree of WIM (Wants It More) from wallape with respect to trying to make something out of nothing through the phase that like, justifies a lot of these openers but is glossed over here? Thoughts on a potential Ddlc+Sheep partnership where Sheep is trying to disregard reads/thoughts on the DDLC slot with just “there’s nothing to look at here I hope this slot does more” otherwise their post about DDLC just feels out of place and unnecessary I don't think it's unnecessary since I did ask him specifically about the post tbh |
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Post by litteleven on Oct 5, 2021 16:48:17 GMT
distinctly the thought of "wallape forcing reads" does not fit in with the nature of wallape's posting in my eyes there's some degree of WIM (Wants It More) from wallape with respect to trying to make something out of nothing through the phase that like, justifies a lot of these openers but is glossed over here? Thoughts on a potential Ddlc+Sheep partnership where Sheep is trying to disregard reads/thoughts on the DDLC slot with just “there’s nothing to look at here I hope this slot does more” otherwise their post about DDLC just feels out of place and unnecessary was requested bad post friend |
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Post by Sheep★Go★Moo on Oct 5, 2021 17:33:30 GMT
Furthermore ddlc has done nothing but filler through this day, which is somewhat fine in ps! Day one, but with forum games their should be some form of contribution imo I don’t like this for a couple of reasons 1- It does disregard everything DDLC has said which kind of just throws away a slot as unreadable which never seems productive to me s2- It reads as if Sheep has never played a game with DDLC especially with the lines of “But with forum games there should be some form of contribution imo” Which makes it like they don’t know that DDLC does this all the time.
Anyways that’s just my two cents there before I forget about it and this thread Believe me, I've played with ddlc way too many times for my sanity. But " Which makes it like they don’t know that DDLC does this all the time." totally disregards the fact it's not useful for the town cause of the game, and negates untown-like plays to pmeta which is still "NAI". Nonetheless I feel no further need to vote this so Unvote Wallape |
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Post by Sheep★Go★Moo on Oct 5, 2021 17:37:43 GMT
There really isn’t much analysis that can be done, when a read is based on “vibes”. But what i’m willing to say is there is some form of analysis in “ I believe you trying to force reads when nothing is out of scum!litts capabilitys”, however they don’t refer to any alignment lean/read + they don’t wait for a reply/speak on this again. distinctly the thought of "wallape forcing reads" does not fit in with the nature of wallape's posting in my eyes there's some degree of WIM (Wants It More) from wallape with respect to trying to make something out of nothing through the phase that like, justifies a lot of these openers but is glossed over here? I can get this, day 1 reads imo tend to be pretty weak because people try to make mountains out of molehills and overread to be seen as town, even when it's blatantly incorrect or just unhelpful. I'd still however like to see ddlc's rebuttal. |
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Post by litteleven on Oct 5, 2021 20:39:05 GMT
dead game
Vote: termsofservice
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Post by Veteran Padgett on Oct 6, 2021 1:33:43 GMT
Vote wallapeFeel like they are scum from interaction with litt but not sure why. The one thing I can say is that I've played with wallape in countdown, and I've played with wallape in this game, and this game seems scummier. I don't have any alignment thoughts on litt right now. So looking at this it’s essentially meta voting (which is bad usually and probably worse on forums but we move) and honestly wanna say it’s thinly veiled rvs I’ll give wall some validation here that this post itself is bad and doesn’t make vet look townie at all, although I still maintain that the constant asking for others opinions and basically admitting ur own thoughts without ever explaining it well is still bad Anyways, vet I want more details on your thoughts on the litt wall interactions, in particular what seems strange or out of place that would’ve made u vote wall because even if u wanna claim its a gut read there has to be a line somewhere that gives u that impression Also I want u to consider litt’s alignment again, why did u think the interactions gave away wall’s alignment but not litt’s and has your opinion on litt’s alignment changed? Finally I want u to consider everyone else and see if u have anymore reads and reasoning for those reads, if u don’t have any just admit that So, I said Countdown earlier but realized when getting the link that I meant Murder in the Safehouse. What came to my mind from that game is that wallape and ptsd went back and forth a lot. Around here is where it starts ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/79465/thread. I had the impression that wallaI'pe was a more confrontational player but here they easily gave a tl on litt because phrasing. The reason I didn't read litt is that even my above read was not that strong and litt seems to always talk in a pretty cut and dry way, so I'm not confident making a tone based read on litt so early. Now that I've got some more wallape and litt content I've had a few thoughts beyond meta reads that I'll try to gather below. |
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