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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Oct 6, 2021 1:38:53 GMT
have you ever like
watched a medical procedural drama
and then gone to an actual hospital
and thought about the former's impression of the latter
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Oct 6, 2021 1:45:53 GMT
6 pages okay manageable im here now lemme read
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Oct 6, 2021 1:49:25 GMT
there's def a conclusion i'm too weathered to say with a straight face but you know what i'm implying replying as i go btw litt not everyone is brainful and smart like you
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Oct 6, 2021 1:54:36 GMT
at the end of page 3 litt vs wallape is so NAI to me i want to lynch both of them to see what flips and so it stops
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Oct 6, 2021 1:55:29 GMT
also not how common it is for people to link their past games at the start so someone tell me if it is cuz litt having that ready makes me feel like there was already a plan to do so if that makes sense hello (you're right but not correct) as in, was to check if wallape stuck to a read which i found a bit dubious given new info on that note, could you elaborate on what you think the wallape/litt interactions were and what potentially pinged you to t!wallape? curious im not reading it so any arguments based on it are going to be quite confusing to me. |
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Oct 6, 2021 1:56:17 GMT
some of you are aping the worsrt parts of what you think Good Players do and it is like embarrassing, i am embarrassed for y'all im not a good player and im happy with that and yall can deal with it :^) |
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Oct 6, 2021 1:59:34 GMT
i think the extent to which meta is involved here is a Stretch
everything wallape has done is extremely fakeable, that's not under discussion & is a point i would've made in maybe fewer words than most folks in this thread
the last line is the bit that disqualifies w/w for me, bc it's contrary to the would-be advantages of engaging in that kind of theater
i do not know where "earliness" factored into any of this; that's something you brought up
thumbs i missed your angle
[that early into the day]
what bothered me a bit too there is that quo's response to wall seemed just pensive about wall's alignment and failed to develop from a q asked
reframing in non w/w worlds is probably going to make me lean quo>wall in scum equity? if that makes sense
someone pls explain what "w/w" means i i'm used to seeing T/T as in town on town interaction T/S S/S etc. what is w/w |
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Oct 6, 2021 2:02:54 GMT
Also another rambling of wallape vs Litt having a high chance of being town vs town. Oh 2 pages later (p5) i still think its straight up NAI on either side i feel like both are experienced enough players to respond plausibly to each other as scum as well as as town |
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Post by Veteran Padgett on Oct 6, 2021 2:05:38 GMT
This is quite an interesting response. I dont get the same vibes and i believe you may be trying to find a townread without considering that litt could be saying things just to say them. I believe you trying to force reads when nothing is out of scum!litts capabilitys. I wonder how willing you would be look past your assumptions or if you already have litt townlocked. Just because it isn't out of his scumrange doesn't mean I can't make a read of it, someone needs to get a stale gamestate moving and I think it did its work Bolded feels very icky do you think I would legitimately townlock litt for a post on the second pg Elaborate on why you got the opposite vibes? Um it was the first irl day of the game. For sure players that start the ball rolling are awesome, but I just don't get the frustration with the gamestate when a lot of people hadn't even posted yet. hm I see Personally think it's a very scummy post Like first reason to scumread me is very vague, and he recognizes its vague and doesn't want to vote me based on that sole reason so that's why he adds the meta part The worst part is that the meta references feel just as empty as the first reason to vote me, like "he's scummier here so let's vote him" but why am I scummier? What parts are different? I was bordering on the line of too scummy to be scum for a bit but it's pretty opportunistic since it comes when I'm under heavy fire already well maybe not under heavy fire but Something like that So we avoid wall post spam I’ll explain my 2nd point better here for wall’s sake Essentially it’s what litt said about essentially having fos on vet for them having fos on u and the continuous asking for opinions about their said vote on u, which comes across as either wanting validation for the vote or fishing for reasons to justify it, neither come across well “Voting pattern” was a bad way to go about phrasing that I apologise I couldn’t think of a better way at the time Fyi I’ll go re-read vet’s stuff and make a comment on it next cuz fuck it I’ll take the bait Bruh i don't want validation for the read I want ppl to actually look at him and maybe even vote him because that's the wagon I want atm and he seems to be fairly glossed over atm I don't need justification either because I've already justified Vote itself is opportunistic, reason feels extremely flimsy, meta addition feels like a necessary add on he needs to put there because otherwise the vote would feel too weak rather than being an actual thought Like iyam "is scummier" does not fit in with meta; meta == specific stuff that you're doing differently wrt your other alignment games and it doesn't look he finds a real difference bc if he did he would mention it instead of just saying "is scummier". That's why it looks like something he felt he needed to add to the post Idrk how to best explain it tbh but I hope you get my view better now So, wallape claims that my vote was opportunistic and then backpedals when they realize they had only one vote. Looks like they forgot again later when they still need to add something besides flimsy reasoning since they called my post wolfy. Not amused by the fake reasoning. |
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Oct 6, 2021 2:11:41 GMT
okay so the only reason i didn't make a wallpost because im in class right now (why are tuesday 6:30pm classes legal) and im too lazy to do too much c/ping to make the wallpost that i classically do
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Oct 6, 2021 2:16:38 GMT
Just because it isn't out of his scumrange doesn't mean I can't make a read of it, someone needs to get a stale gamestate moving and I think it did its work Bolded feels very icky do you think I would legitimately townlock litt for a post on the second pg Elaborate on why you got the opposite vibes? Um it was the first irl day of the game. For sure players that start the ball rolling are awesome, but I just don't get the frustration with the gamestate when a lot of people hadn't even posted yet. hm I see Personally think it's a very scummy post Like first reason to scumread me is very vague, and he recognizes its vague and doesn't want to vote me based on that sole reason so that's why he adds the meta part The worst part is that the meta references feel just as empty as the first reason to vote me, like "he's scummier here so let's vote him" but why am I scummier? What parts are different? I was bordering on the line of too scummy to be scum for a bit but it's pretty opportunistic since it comes when I'm under heavy fire already well maybe not under heavy fire but Something like that Bruh i don't want validation for the read I want ppl to actually look at him and maybe even vote him because that's the wagon I want atm and he seems to be fairly glossed over atm I don't need justification either because I've already justified Vote itself is opportunistic, reason feels extremely flimsy, meta addition feels like a necessary add on he needs to put there because otherwise the vote would feel too weak rather than being an actual thought Like iyam "is scummier" does not fit in with meta; meta == specific stuff that you're doing differently wrt your other alignment games and it doesn't look he finds a real difference bc if he did he would mention it instead of just saying "is scummier". That's why it looks like something he felt he needed to add to the post Idrk how to best explain it tbh but I hope you get my view better now So, wallape claims that my vote was opportunistic and then backpedals when they realize they had only one vote. Looks like they forgot again later when they still need to add something besides flimsy reasoning since they called my post wolfy. Not amused by the fake reasoning. this is honestly interesting. I'm not sure how fake the reasoning is, because it could easily be a slip of memory where he remembers his impression of the situation instead of However, that does beg the question of why he panicked so hard at the perceived "heavy fire" and went for such a hard omgus.
I think it's enough for me to vote wallape for now. This brings him to 3 I believe.
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Post by litteleven on Oct 6, 2021 2:22:57 GMT
if deadline's in 100 minutes ddlc needs to go btw
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Post by wallape on Oct 6, 2021 2:45:38 GMT
Broski i did not mention any "fake reasoning" because I already mentioned the meta part in my first post and then elaborated on it bc boredgames was saying I hadn't explained it well
And I also didn't panic and go for omgus so stop saying that
"Heavy fire" was a clear exaggeration, but you still get what I mean. I'm being the most pressured person and then you vote me
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Post by Veteran Padgett on Oct 6, 2021 2:45:58 GMT
Townie post Specifically the "my faction will win", think scum!litt wouldn't be so arrogant; also not mentioning which faction he is because if I was scum I'd specifically try to integrate me being town into the sentence Why would you ever vote sleep though cause i'm the goat wolfy post tbh, not liking the confidence behind it feels like you want to put out this specific read on this as opposed to putting out your neutral thoughts i'll link my only forum scum game so far in: www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/32265-Modified-Executionlmk how you feel about it; surely there are thoughts to be had wrt your inquiry from here also not how common it is for people to link their past games at the start so someone tell me if it is cuz litt having that ready makes me feel like there was already a plan to do so if that makes sense hello (you're right but not correct) as in, was to check if wallape stuck to a read which i found a bit dubious given new info on that note, could you elaborate on what you think the wallape/litt interactions were and what potentially pinged you to t!wallape? curious Litt challenging town reads on themself could be a scum tactic to make themselves seem more impartial. This could also be a result of there being so much wallape centered discussion today, so it might not be as important later. "meta cognition" doesn't mean what you think it is i am begging y'all to say what you mean and to like make inferences
punning on stuff "player meta" "cognition" i'm trolling the thing is like, I feel like the quo/wall not w/w read off what you quoted is a reach if you didn't factor meta in some fashion because it's such a natural way to put distancing in early when the thread is new like if it's fakable for me I'd assume it's fakable for wallape and I don't see the line where you conclusively draw that it can't happen that early into the day This post was really interesting because litt thinks a player might be distancing themselves from another. I'm not sure who litt is talking about though. Are you saying that quo is distancing from wallape? |
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Oct 6, 2021 2:46:38 GMT
if deadline's in 100 minutes ddlc needs to go btw this feels slightly random, as your vote is on tos and your most recent post concerning ddlc was
Furthermore ddlc has done nothing but filler through this day, which is somewhat fine in ps! Day one, but with forum games their should be some form of contribution imo this is a bad post because ddlc has atleast 1 post of content that requires analysis, no thread erasure
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Post by Veteran Padgett on Oct 6, 2021 2:48:51 GMT
I do think it is pretty cool that wallape decided to actually read litt's ~250 iso upon being gently nudged to do so Is this meant to be a comment on wallape's alignment? |
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Oct 6, 2021 2:49:28 GMT
wallape's response feels like giga panic ngl and only increases my inclination to vote them
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Oct 6, 2021 2:56:03 GMT
punning on stuff "player meta" "cognition" i'm trolling the thing is like, I feel like the quo/wall not w/w read off what you quoted is a reach if you didn't factor meta in some fashion because it's such a natural way to put distancing in early when the thread is new like if it's fakable for me I'd assume it's fakable for wallape and I don't see the line where you conclusively draw that it can't happen that early into the day This post was really interesting because litt thinks a player might be distancing themselves from another. I'm not sure who litt is talking about though. Are you saying that quo is distancing from wallape? quo/wall |
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Post by Veteran Padgett on Oct 6, 2021 2:56:49 GMT
also not how common it is for people to link their past games at the start so someone tell me if it is cuz litt having that ready makes me feel like there was already a plan to do so if that makes sense Litt was responding to another player mentioning his player meta so this wasn't necessarily a plan. |
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Post by wallape on Oct 6, 2021 3:10:12 GMT
So looking at this it’s essentially meta voting (which is bad usually and probably worse on forums but we move) and honestly wanna say it’s thinly veiled rvs I’ll give wall some validation here that this post itself is bad and doesn’t make vet look townie at all, although I still maintain that the constant asking for others opinions and basically admitting ur own thoughts without ever explaining it well is still bad Anyways, vet I want more details on your thoughts on the litt wall interactions, in particular what seems strange or out of place that would’ve made u vote wall because even if u wanna claim its a gut read there has to be a line somewhere that gives u that impression Also I want u to consider litt’s alignment again, why did u think the interactions gave away wall’s alignment but not litt’s and has your opinion on litt’s alignment changed? Finally I want u to consider everyone else and see if u have anymore reads and reasoning for those reads, if u don’t have any just admit that So, I said Countdown earlier but realized when getting the link that I meant Murder in the Safehouse. What came to my mind from that game is that wallape and ptsd went back and forth a lot. Around here is where it starts ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/79465/thread. I had the impression that wallaI'pe was a more confrontational player but here they easily gave a tl on litt because phrasing. The reason I didn't read litt is that even my above read was not that strong and litt seems to always talk in a pretty cut and dry way, so I'm not confident making a tone based read on litt so early. Now that I've got some more wallape and litt content I've had a few thoughts beyond meta reads that I'll try to gather below. Oh yeah can I just say that me being confrontational is false Ptsd was the one who confronted me, and I spent time trying to explain my pov to him |
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Post by wallape on Oct 6, 2021 3:13:34 GMT
anyways collective final thoughts incase I die: vetpadge scum, sky looks partnered for his posts regarding vetpadge (otherwise sky is null. ptsd has wolfy pop ins can't explain why properly but it feels like he's hopping in,minding someone to go off on, and leaving idk. Ddlc's one content post was icky so wouldn't by surprised by him scum as well.
Litt is probably just town, schia slightly town for his snarky attitude (in the "only talking to litt" post) which seems to mirror his attitude in countdown.
I was hoping to have more townreads but oh well
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Post by Veteran Padgett on Oct 6, 2021 3:24:23 GMT
As for other players I think sheep seems the towniest. They had a good point that wallape's vote might not be considered omgus, and sheep was also pushing some discussion on ddlc to breakaway from the wallape/litt start.
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Post by Veteran Padgett on Oct 6, 2021 3:26:46 GMT
anyways collective final thoughts incase I die: vetpadge scum, sky looks partnered for his posts regarding vetpadge (otherwise sky is null. ptsd has wolfy pop ins can't explain why properly but it feels like he's hopping in,minding someone to go off on, and leaving idk. Ddlc's one content post was icky so wouldn't by surprised by him scum as well. Litt is probably just town, schia slightly town for his snarky attitude (in the "only talking to litt" post) which seems to mirror his attitude in countdown. I was hoping to have more townreads but oh well You only got two votes to like 10 other people with one vote, so a lot can change still. |
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Oct 6, 2021 3:27:47 GMT
anyways collective final thoughts incase I die: vetpadge scum, sky looks partnered for his posts regarding vetpadge (otherwise sky is null. ptsd has wolfy pop ins can't explain why properly but it feels like he's hopping in,minding someone to go off on, and leaving idk. Ddlc's one content post was icky so wouldn't by surprised by him scum as well. Litt is probably just town, schia slightly town for his snarky attitude (in the "only talking to litt" post) which seems to mirror his attitude in countdown. I was hoping to have more townreads but oh well
im pretty fucking sure schia being snarky just means they're playing the game
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Post by Veteran Padgett on Oct 6, 2021 3:27:58 GMT
if deadline's in 100 minutes ddlc needs to go btw this feels slightly random, as your vote is on tos and your most recent post concerning ddlc was
this is a bad post because ddlc has atleast 1 post of content that requires analysis, no thread erasure I feel like the first one was just policy |
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