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Post by dkkoba on Feb 9, 2022 20:08:49 GMT
Its completely natural to see your vote, the reasoning put before it, and the lack of engagement leading up to it, and react the way I did. Do you have any townleans right now btw? If so - who? I suppose it's fair to react like that, but the thing that put me off was you claiming I said something I never did Also daystart snuck up on me a bit so my lack of engagement wasn't on purpose but I apologize for it regardless rn as quojova has been the main contributor so far, they're the only one I could reasonably townlean at this point when there's a vote + reasoning(no matter how "bad" it is) is natural to assume that person is scumreading the slot they are voting
i tend to draw conclusions a lot from limited info and make safe assumptions about play - which I'm happy to clear up if it is not the case because I very much know the feeling of having someone claim I meant something and not listen to a reasonable explaination I have that is the actual truth.
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Post by dkkoba on Feb 9, 2022 20:09:11 GMT
ok so i kinda realized these 48 hour deadline games are a bit of a time limit that I'm not used to thus I'm going to dump my reasoning for my sky push -> What I believe sky is doing is trying to egg on OM to wagon me and possibly other people as well as TMIing me as town in a way that is scum indicative ("they wouldn't defend their partner this way" was very weird to me) And as for the meta I brought up from them from the completed town game - I felt tonally and in terms of solviness, sky was a lot more proactive in trying to find people's alignments while here they seem like they already know them. I typically don't like instaburying scum on d1 bc it can make it a giant pain to find their partner and scum just back to back kill the competent townies in the gamestate, but sometimes u do be catching them fast and u can't do much about it quoting for new page for visibility |
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Post by dkkoba on Feb 9, 2022 20:15:47 GMT
mind you this is litearlly just page 4 and most of my reads are like bullshitted to get reactions to get more info and get people to take stances and all that so there's a chance I'm hilariously wrong on this push and I'll be able to probably gleam that before EoD if that's the case - but the tonal/solviness vibe is what I'm moreso latched onto than the supposed egging on.
one of the biggest scumtells I catch that helps find spewed townies too is when a person sees 2 people clashing and they subtly try to make them continue fighting without resolving it - it's probably my favorite one to catch scum with because it finds 1-2 townies fmpov(sometimes im the one clashing with someone else, had this happen where scum was off wagon egging it on and both of us turned on them tho and they ended up getting limmed d1 ROFL) anyways I digress
if anyone with experience with sky disagrees with my assessment of their tone feel free to speak up - y'all know eachother better than I do and my meta reading is much much stronger when it is applied to games I'm personally in with that person rather than reacting retroactively.
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Post by Gary The Savage on Feb 9, 2022 21:19:15 GMT
Do you think leading a Mafia game with questions is a bad thing? Regardless, it's NAI
Uh
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Post by Gary The Savage on Feb 9, 2022 21:19:42 GMT
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Post by Gary The Savage on Feb 9, 2022 21:20:39 GMT
The 2 above lagged alot, sorry for the resend
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Post by Gary The Savage on Feb 9, 2022 21:22:42 GMT
ok so i kinda realized these 48 hour deadline games are a bit of a time limit that I'm not used to thus I'm going to dump my reasoning for my sky push -> What I believe sky is doing is trying to egg on OM to wagon me and possibly other people as well as TMIing me as town in a way that is scum indicative ("they wouldn't defend their partner this way" was very weird to me) And as for the meta I brought up from them from the completed town game - I felt tonally and in terms of solviness, sky was a lot more proactive in trying to find people's alignments while here they seem like they already know them. I typically don't like instaburying scum on d1 bc it can make it a giant pain to find their partner and scum just back to back kill the competent townies in the gamestate, but sometimes u do be catching them fast and u can't do much about it What would sky's motivation to wagon off you be? Also how can we determine/designate partners on the first day. |
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Post by dkkoba on Feb 9, 2022 21:53:32 GMT
ok so i kinda realized these 48 hour deadline games are a bit of a time limit that I'm not used to thus I'm going to dump my reasoning for my sky push -> What I believe sky is doing is trying to egg on OM to wagon me and possibly other people as well as TMIing me as town in a way that is scum indicative ("they wouldn't defend their partner this way" was very weird to me) And as for the meta I brought up from them from the completed town game - I felt tonally and in terms of solviness, sky was a lot more proactive in trying to find people's alignments while here they seem like they already know them. I typically don't like instaburying scum on d1 bc it can make it a giant pain to find their partner and scum just back to back kill the competent townies in the gamestate, but sometimes u do be catching them fast and u can't do much about it What would sky's motivation to wagon off you be? Also how can we determine/designate partners on the first day. I tend to solve with "viability" in mind which means i make sure a solve can *work* when i fos someone meaning someone needs to be that persons partner potentially so i "preflip" (pretend they have flipped a specific alignment) people im confident on and see if i see any associatives from there(how i worldbuild) |
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Post by quojova on Feb 9, 2022 23:02:00 GMT
does OM have burden of proficiency that u think their takes are scummy bc i think they're natural reads just like violently incorrect not really more so I think he is being slightly unconversational in his posts so far in a way that I wouldn't expect from him at this stage I'm not too concerned with where exactly reads are pointed given they are all exaggerated |
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Post by quojova on Feb 9, 2022 23:07:11 GMT
I'm not sure what dasocks is trying to accomplish with this line of reasoning but instead of taking the direct approach and asking him what he is trying to accomplish I will simply add 1 to his votecount and hope he gets the message For now until I notice something that holds a little more water, I'm just trying to utilize typical PS RVS pressure because I think that's the best way to elicit reactions, and reactions lead to cracks and cracks lead to scum Mind you, I'm not just looking for reactions from the random votee in particular yea i get it I've just always found ps meta of "vote instantly and randomly as we do in every game to generate pressure" to be silly Just seems to me that in situations like this dialogue is more useful at generating answers than a vote but im like 98% on this just being site-meta/playstyle rather than actual conflict-avoidance or anything like that |
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Post by quojova on Feb 9, 2022 23:09:11 GMT
Its completely natural to see your vote, the reasoning put before it, and the lack of engagement leading up to it, and react the way I did. Do you have any townleans right now btw? If so - who? I suppose it's fair to react like that, but the thing that put me off was you claiming I said something I never did Also daystart snuck up on me a bit so my lack of engagement wasn't on purpose but I apologize for it regardless rn as quojova has been the main contributor so far, they're the only one I could reasonably townlean at this point looking back, has your whole interaction with dkkoba so far given you either rand >town vibes or >maf vibes on them? |
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Post by quojova on Feb 9, 2022 23:09:55 GMT
brb did not finish catchup but i gtg
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snackers
Innocent Child
mafia player with a 1:8 W/L ratio
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Post by snackers on Feb 9, 2022 23:32:49 GMT
How are there 4 pages alr it's been less than 24 hours you tryhard
Gary is scum- I'll explain later but theres too much typing involved so I'll gather my thoughts
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Post by quojova on Feb 10, 2022 0:23:44 GMT
mind you this is litearlly just page 4 and most of my reads are like bullshitted to get reactions to get more info and get people to take stances and all that so there's a chance I'm hilariously wrong on this push and I'll be able to probably gleam that before EoD if that's the case - but the tonal/solviness vibe is what I'm moreso latched onto than the supposed egging on. one of the biggest scumtells I catch that helps find spewed townies too is when a person sees 2 people clashing and they subtly try to make them continue fighting without resolving it - it's probably my favorite one to catch scum with because it finds 1-2 townies fmpov(sometimes im the one clashing with someone else, had this happen where scum was off wagon egging it on and both of us turned on them tho and they ended up getting limmed d1 ROFL) anyways I digress if anyone with experience with sky disagrees with my assessment of their tone feel free to speak up - y'all know eachother better than I do and my meta reading is much much stronger when it is applied to games I'm personally in with that person rather than reacting retroactively. just to clarify because I think I'm missing something atm would it be accurate to describe your stance as: sky is attempting to continue "aggression" within the group of you/om/gary by townleaning you? I have other thoughts but they are kinda meaningless if I have the wrong idea of what you are arguing and I'll let sky actually respond first |
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Post by quojova on Feb 10, 2022 0:25:52 GMT
ok so i kinda realized these 48 hour deadline games are a bit of a time limit that I'm not used to thus I'm going to dump my reasoning for my sky push -> What I believe sky is doing is trying to egg on OM to wagon me and possibly other people as well as TMIing me as town in a way that is scum indicative ("they wouldn't defend their partner this way" was very weird to me) And as for the meta I brought up from them from the completed town game - I felt tonally and in terms of solviness, sky was a lot more proactive in trying to find people's alignments while here they seem like they already know them. I typically don't like instaburying scum on d1 bc it can make it a giant pain to find their partner and scum just back to back kill the competent townies in the gamestate, but sometimes u do be catching them fast and u can't do much about it What would sky's motivation to wagon off you be? Also how can we determine/designate partners on the first day. meta-question: what sort of responses are you expecting to these and how will they help you |
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Post by quojova on Feb 10, 2022 0:28:52 GMT
What would sky's motivation to wagon off you be? Also how can we determine/designate partners on the first day. I tend to solve with "viability" in mind which means i make sure a solve can *work* when i fos someone meaning someone needs to be that persons partner potentially so i "preflip" (pretend they have flipped a specific alignment) people im confident on and see if i see any associatives from there(how i worldbuild) didn't see this was the next post but I'm still curious what angle you were going at with these questions like 'why does a potential maf want to wagon a town' 'how do we find partners' slightly weird vibes tbh |
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Post by dkkoba on Feb 10, 2022 1:00:09 GMT
mind you this is litearlly just page 4 and most of my reads are like bullshitted to get reactions to get more info and get people to take stances and all that so there's a chance I'm hilariously wrong on this push and I'll be able to probably gleam that before EoD if that's the case - but the tonal/solviness vibe is what I'm moreso latched onto than the supposed egging on. one of the biggest scumtells I catch that helps find spewed townies too is when a person sees 2 people clashing and they subtly try to make them continue fighting without resolving it - it's probably my favorite one to catch scum with because it finds 1-2 townies fmpov(sometimes im the one clashing with someone else, had this happen where scum was off wagon egging it on and both of us turned on them tho and they ended up getting limmed d1 ROFL) anyways I digress if anyone with experience with sky disagrees with my assessment of their tone feel free to speak up - y'all know eachother better than I do and my meta reading is much much stronger when it is applied to games I'm personally in with that person rather than reacting retroactively. just to clarify because I think I'm missing something atm would it be accurate to describe your stance as: sky is attempting to continue "aggression" within the group of you/om/gary by townleaning you? I have other thoughts but they are kinda meaningless if I have the wrong idea of what you are arguing and I'll let sky actually respond first not gary - just OM vs me. it was kinda a stretch because i took the like he placed on OM's post while saying i look kinda towny and NOT reacting to OM's vote on me with pushback considering their stance.
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Feb 10, 2022 1:11:35 GMT
Hello Frens i just got out of school for the day and have not paid attention to this game since first post so...
Watch this drive
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Feb 10, 2022 1:15:12 GMT
i skimmed sky's iso in a completed town game and solidify the seriousness of my vote there. Ayo thats kinda sus ngl  This is not MU pls |
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Post by dkkoba on Feb 10, 2022 1:17:43 GMT
i mainly play on mafiascum lol most of my games on MU are within the epicmafia subcommunity  |
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Feb 10, 2022 1:19:58 GMT
if I'm the one asking it's probably a bad sign but does anyone know if it's possible to get notifications besides refreshing no its annoying |
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Feb 10, 2022 1:32:25 GMT
Im just like laughing like "i dont know this persons intentions so theyre default scummy" Is such a silly mindset Er, I never called you scummy? I'm voting you because I want to try getting a better handle on your thought process, and I have to say getting this defensive because of a vote that's over a day away from deadline does not give me a great impression hmm... Why do i feel like you are the defensive one rn. I think his opinion is right cuz he doesnt have a pfp so i dont consider him a person rn. But now you are kinda making an excuse for yourself to stay on a rand for some reason lol |
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Feb 10, 2022 1:33:43 GMT
I'm not sure what dasocks is trying to accomplish with this line of reasoning but instead of taking the direct approach and asking him what he is trying to accomplish I will simply add 1 to his votecount and hope he gets the message The goat at it again... Vote dasocks |
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Feb 10, 2022 1:35:30 GMT
Okay so I know that Quojova is a great player and we should follow them However spiderz is a memer voting the meme player so they will die NVM Snackers is the goat Vote derz |
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Feb 10, 2022 1:42:22 GMT
Are games usually this slow? Like is this one of those games where everyone scrambles to make a wagon in the last hour Ye. We have lives here unlike in mafiascum  But it is a little slow tbh. |
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