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Post by Gary The Savage on Feb 10, 2022 1:44:01 GMT
I tend to solve with "viability" in mind which means i make sure a solve can *work* when i fos someone meaning someone needs to be that persons partner potentially so i "preflip" (pretend they have flipped a specific alignment) people im confident on and see if i see any associatives from there(how i worldbuild) didn't see this was the next post but I'm still curious what angle you were going at with these questions like 'why does a potential maf want to wagon a town' 'how do we find partners' slightly weird vibes tbh Just thoughts really. If we can get an explanation as to how a player views or reads a game, we can make a judgment and understand their perspective. It's also good to know for their basis of thoughts, and how they may view scum interaction vs that of town within a game |
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Feb 10, 2022 1:46:38 GMT
I'm not sure what dasocks is trying to accomplish with this line of reasoning but instead of taking the direct approach and asking him what he is trying to accomplish I will simply add 1 to his votecount and hope he gets the message For now until I notice something that holds a little more water, I'm just trying to utilize typical PS RVS pressure because I think that's the best way to elicit reactions, and reactions lead to cracks and cracks lead to scum Mind you, I'm not just looking for reactions from the random votee in particular NOT TYPICAL PS RVS PRESSURE. Why would you say its for you are pressuring someone if you dont care about the reaction. Town is supposed to care about reactions |
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Feb 10, 2022 1:46:56 GMT
Why are ppl ruining my drive
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Post by Dasocks~ on Feb 10, 2022 3:33:02 GMT
For now until I notice something that holds a little more water, I'm just trying to utilize typical PS RVS pressure because I think that's the best way to elicit reactions, and reactions lead to cracks and cracks lead to scum Mind you, I'm not just looking for reactions from the random votee in particular NOT TYPICAL PS RVS PRESSURE. Why would you say its for you are pressuring someone if you dont care about the reaction. Town is supposed to care about reactions I should've probably been clearer, I meant that the way others react to a random vote can also glean info, not that I'm not looking for reactions. I think that fact holds especially more water in a forum game |
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Post by Dasocks~ on Feb 10, 2022 3:39:57 GMT
Consequently, I don't see anything particularly scummy about the way dkkoba has handled things, although im still not entirely certain what grounds the sky push is being made on.
So for now, Unvote dkkoba
bit weirded out by OM and spiderz's lack of attempted contribution today though
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Post by Dasocks~ on Feb 10, 2022 4:20:37 GMT
Consequently, I don't see anything particularly scummy about the way dkkoba has handled things, although im still not entirely certain what grounds the sky push is being made on. So for now, Unvote dkkobato expand on this a bit before I sleep, I don't think dkkoba vs sky is very likely to be scum vs town, especially with how openly non-concrete the 'push' seems. I don't see this flipping |
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Post by skyfigueroa on Feb 10, 2022 7:21:01 GMT
ok so i kinda realized these 48 hour deadline games are a bit of a time limit that I'm not used to thus I'm going to dump my reasoning for my sky push -> What I believe sky is doing is trying to egg on OM to wagon me and possibly other people as well as TMIing me as town in a way that is scum indicative ("they wouldn't defend their partner this way" was very weird to me) And as for the meta I brought up from them from the completed town game - I felt tonally and in terms of solviness, sky was a lot more proactive in trying to find people's alignments while here they seem like they already know them. I typically don't like instaburying scum on d1 bc it can make it a giant pain to find their partner and scum just back to back kill the competent townies in the gamestate, but sometimes u do be catching them fast and u can't do much about it idk why om is brought into this unless you meant quo instead? also u probably see by now how slow maf games are which is why ur v-3 comment stood out to me. ("they wouldn't defend their partner this way" was very weird to me)if u and one of the v-3 people are actually partners that's literally dumb af to do. it's not TMIing to say i think so. |
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Post by dkkoba on Feb 10, 2022 12:05:37 GMT
I like how you attack my weaker argument rather than the one i presented as a stronger reason rofl
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Post by dkkoba on Feb 10, 2022 13:24:43 GMT
EoD in 12 hours and i have as much info as id normally have within the first 6 hours.
Not looking good for a solved state but I'm staying the course on this vote.
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Post by dkkoba on Feb 10, 2022 13:25:52 GMT
I'm possibly down for a spiderz wagon if someone can explain how they're outside of townrange
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Post by Schrodinger on Feb 10, 2022 13:28:07 GMT
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Post by dkkoba on Feb 10, 2022 13:29:52 GMT
Gary/om/socks/quov all feel town to me, thats half the pl sorted for at least d1(i tend to make reads on d1 as "tabling" people i dont want to vote and then voting within the rest)
Ddlcfan feels kinda weird, cant put my finger on it. I'll try to explain the feel better later.
I'd rather get spiderz to post more before voting there
I dont feel *as* confident in a sky direction but im not there townread wise
I dont remember who the last person is i havent mentioned but theyre def null rofl
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Post by spiderz on Feb 10, 2022 13:53:04 GMT
I skimmed through thread a bit, I’ve just been lazy so I haven’t been posting
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Post by spiderz on Feb 10, 2022 13:53:29 GMT
Don’t vote me though I want to play the game
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Post by spiderz on Feb 10, 2022 13:55:21 GMT
I'm possibly down for a spiderz wagon if someone can explain how they're outside of townrange I’ve made one post I’m clearly just low posting why would you be down for my wagon lol, also could you link some of your previous scum games if possible  |
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Post by dkkoba on Feb 10, 2022 13:58:59 GMT
If you've skimmed thread you should be able to tell us some takes. And no, calling me town wont be enough.
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Post by dkkoba on Feb 10, 2022 14:01:43 GMT
If youre unable to keep up with this game 100% when its only 5 pages i doubt that i should give you scum games because just my isos tend to be even longer than that
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Post by dkkoba on Feb 10, 2022 14:03:56 GMT
Lets make a deal- you provide a full reads list, and I'll link you 2 of my recently completed scumgames. 1 of which is me replacing into ELo
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Post by spiderz on Feb 10, 2022 14:18:30 GMT
Idk why OM is being so uninteractive so that’s probably a red flag, quo and gary give town vibes but I need to read more in depth,I don’t know Dk’a alignment till I see how they play scum, i was concerned with a certain hedgey scum dasocks narrative but again need to read their posts more in depth, snackers / ddlc are both pretty shit so I’ve ignored their posts so far tbh but i’ll read ddlc’s later the issue is im at school rn so thats why i cant really comfortably read posts in depth rn
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Post by dkkoba on Feb 10, 2022 14:35:31 GMT
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Post by quojova on Feb 10, 2022 15:21:08 GMT
just to clarify because I think I'm missing something atm would it be accurate to describe your stance as: sky is attempting to continue "aggression" within the group of you/om/gary by townleaning you? I have other thoughts but they are kinda meaningless if I have the wrong idea of what you are arguing and I'll let sky actually respond first not gary - just OM vs me. it was kinda a stretch because i took the like he placed on OM's post while saying i look kinda towny and NOT reacting to OM's vote on me with pushback considering their stance.
it's a bit of a stretch to me since stating the obvious but "ratio" being a joke that involves likes and there's no obligation at that early in the game to defend your tls |
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Post by quojova on Feb 10, 2022 15:23:02 GMT
not gary - just OM vs me. it was kinda a stretch because i took the like he placed on OM's post while saying i look kinda towny and NOT reacting to OM's vote on me with pushback considering their stance.
it's a bit of a stretch to me since stating the obvious but "ratio" being a joke that involves likes and there's no obligation at that early in the game to defend your tls I use hedgephrases way too often but it's actually a lot of stretch to me and I don't really buy the argument I do think sky is solidly in his scumrange though and has yet to demonstrate anything to make me lean town on him |
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Post by quojova on Feb 10, 2022 15:24:19 GMT
I feel like gary usually comes off a bit more genuine than this in games he is town
does anyone see what I'm seeing
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Post by quojova on Feb 10, 2022 15:29:59 GMT
TT
dkkoba
T
ddlcfan
Dasocks
null
spiderz
skyfigueroa
snackers
W
OM~!
WW
Gary The Savage
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Post by quojova on Feb 10, 2022 15:32:44 GMT
[v]Gary the Savage[/v]
snackers policy is an okay play but one of the players on it is my newfound bottom read
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