Marvel Mafia![Endgame]

[shotgunmerc]

Nov 9, 2014 10:17:51 GMT Fort Colorcastle said:

And I agree with ODM, everyone should claim their characters.

Flavoring and all that.

Oops, I meant to quote this but clicked the wrong post

[shotgunmerc]

Just read the D4 flip. I must have been blocked by cxinlee.

[Mob Boss]

Extension shall be granted by how much time you want it guys?

[PieLovesEveryone]

Citrus said he can't return until Monday, so probably Tuesday?

Also Phil =/= Head of SHIELD smh he's just an agent

And Spiderman is involved pretty strongly SHIELD in the comics, but Sony has the rights to the movies. That's why no Spidey/Avengers movie.

[PieLovesEveryone]

Also fort you didn't bold unlynching me, so I hope that doesn't kill me. 

Fort, do you have to kill every night? If not, why? It seems like a better idea for a vig to wait until mafia are found/strongly suspected until killing. If not, we get terrible results, like we have now.

This game is full of the high profile Marvel characters, so adding in the relatively unknown Iron Fist is weird. The Punisher is borderline, but with a movie in a few years it's more logical. One would think there are more popular characters than Mob could have used. ((because before this I had never heard of Iron Fist either, and I think I know a lot about the Marvel Universe.))

[incognito]

The iron fist claim seems scummy but rssp did say there was a doc Unlynch Pie the claims actually raise more questions since most of them either aren't superheroes or aren't well known. I strongly believe it is mylo and fort is now the only person i trust. Rssp1 claim please if you haven't already.

[rssp1]

I'm the Black Widow, I have various investigative abilities and i've used all the useful ones.
I can confirm that what shotgun says is true.

[incognito]

Alright then, Pie/Citrus/Me, pie seems to be the scummiest, but i'm not gonna lynch yet.

[Deleted]

I wrote a huge post but it was deleted because Internet problems. Essentially, I just looked over everybody's claims. And asked us all to post our reads. I'll get back to writing what I was saying later...


Edit:
I found this on Wikipedia on Phil Coulson's page:

Full name:   Phillip Coulson

Occupation: Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D.

                 Director of S.H.I.E.L.D.

Title:          Director

Nationality: American


Wikipedia also says that Nick Fury is a head agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. Just to clarify, people thought that was confusing.

[PieLovesEveryone]

Fury is Public Director/Second Commander of S.H.I.E.L.D. He answers only to the twelve shadow people that are in charge. Coulson is a Level Four Agent in the movies I think, giving him control of a large team ((Something like a Captain in the US Military))

[incognito]

I do believe that fury is the highest rank among non-superheroes, adding someone like coulson seems unnecessary since there are many superheroes left to choose from. My thoughts: NL today, possible MYLO

[rssp1]

I dunno, we're just going to lose one of the confirmed overnight, so that's kind of useless imo

[Deleted]

    It doesn't really matter who the people are, as long as they are in the same universe, and linked somehow. I think Marvel just pulled the Phil Coulson thing out of their butt when they started movie making in 2008, anyway.

    So, yeah, NL for today. I would vote no lynch now, but we still need to figure some stuff out. We have a vigilante with priority over a mafia kill, so if fort can correctly infer who the mafia man who is going to make the kill is, it's GG. The suspects are me(ugh), Pie, and ODM. Shotgunmerc is not for-sure-confirmed clear, but nobody is challenging him. His stories work, so he's good by the same logic as rssp1 and fort. One of us, the Scummy Three, are clear, the other two are scum. Of course, we're all going to argue that we are the one who is good, so keep us all under scrutiny. Inevitably, mafia A is going to have to bus mafia B. The town just decides whether this happens today or tomorrow. Today would be preferable.*
    To start the long and inevitably emotion-laden process of scumhunting, I've done you all a flavor and compiled a list of everybody's claims, as well as what they presumably want from other people. I'm assuming everybody is town, and totally clear.

Citrus Freak: I am a watcher that can target X number of people every night, X being the number of townies that died the previous night. I really just need another extension and help deciding on who to watch tonight. I love you guys <3

ODM: He is a one-shot ability copier. He is a villy at this point. The only thing he can really contribute is his scumhunting prowess. He will likely denounce me for something I say in this post. Sorry...

PieLovesEveryone: She is a hider who must recharge the night after she does the hiding. She is also a villy, for this night at least. Presumably, if she lives tonight, then it will be difficult for the mafia to kill her tomorrow night. She hides behind the mafia, mafia targets her, the mafia dies, GG, that was a stupid ending. Like ODM, scumhunting is her priority.

Rssp1: He had a slew on investigative abilities, but at this point he is to but the bitter dregs of his cup of abili-tea. He needs to decide on to whom to use his remaining ability. 

Fort the cherry: He is a vigilante with priority over mafia kills, undeterred by doctors' protection as well as role blockers. He is the man you wish you could be. He holds the fate of the town in his hands; who he kills tonight will determine whether the town wins or loses. Help him decide, all you scumhunters.

shotgunmerc: He is a doctor, or, alternatively, a hider every night. The interaction between him, fort, and the one clear of the Scummy Three will determine the fatalities of tonight. He needs to decide who to protect.

So, I guess, when all is said and done, me, rssp1, fort, and shotgunmerc need to figure out a battle plan. My next post will be my personal reads as well as suggestions and overall thoughts about the game.

*=On a side note, this could create an interesting scenario if played right; the town could actually make someone claim mafia to protect their partner.

EDIT:
I just realized I'm never going to be able to elevate my post count to legendary numbers because I put so much TLC into everything I say.

[rssp1]

See the thing is that if we lynch one of the two for sure nonconfirmed (ODM is somewhat nonconfirmed, but not completely) we can have fort shoot the other nonconfirmed in the night (and then lynch the other of the "scummy 3" in the next day).

[rssp1]

well i mean that's if we mislynch today anyways

[Deleted]

Sounds good actually. I wanted to do something cleverer, but that will work. By the way, what's the last of your investigative things?

EDIT:
Wait, actually, that might not work for reasons I shall elaborate in right now in a lengthy monologue style post.

EDIT EDIT:
Rssp1's plan will work.

[Deleted]

My reads:

Rssp1: Confirmed town, stories work, blahblahblah

Fort the cherry: See the above

Shotgunmerc: While he is not totally clear, his stories do work out well, and there is no real reason to suspect him. The use of a doctor and hider will be incredibly important tonight.

PieLovesEveryone: Your role is totally underpowered. Why, in the world, would there be a recharging hider if a real hider/doctor existed already? Either you have another ability you don't want to share, or that is really not your role.

ODM: Same as PieLovesEvryone's case. One shot ability copier is to tame to be taken seriously, which is why someone might want to claim it.

Suggestions:
-While UP roles are not necessarily mafia, they can be a great cover for mafia because nobody takes them seriously. A cop would not bother to investigate you because you're lame. I was once mafia in a game not unlike this, and I claimed I was a nurse. In a game where the only doctor was a confirmed CPR doctor. They believed me then, so I don't believe you now. Besides, I know I'm not mafia; the other two people who I most suspect to be mafia make similarly lame claims. Seems planned, really.
-Me and rssp1 are the only investigative roles left alive; If we can work with shotgunmerc to protect the right one, then the town's win is guaranteed as long as we can correctly predict who dies tonight, which shouldn't be hard. As a bonus, this is true even if I am actually mafia.
-I thought about rssp1's plan, and in actuality it can work. I say we go forth with it. Who were you thinking we go after?

[rssp1]

I was thinking it'd be best to lynch either you or pie, then to shoot the other one.
I also don't think that the town having no doctor would make any sense, so I think that shotgun is town.
either way, don't protect me tonight. My last ability is completely useless (I can see the actions that target a person >_>) so prot fort instead.

[Deleted]

From here on out, it's scumhunting.
I actually believe it's better to go for ODM instead of Pie. Pie roleblocked me last night; she admitted that she had visited me, and I got no results whatsoever last night. If Pie is a roleblocking mafia, then I'd wager that ODM could be something worse. You saw The Vexinator's abilities, the host gave the mafia good abilities. Fort cannot be roleblocked. And he has higher priority than mafia kills, so a doctor shouldn't be needed.
Of course, you can't really take this argument seriously unless you already believe I'm the town member of the Scummy Three. Which is why the scumhunting must go on.

Edit:
For clarity: We lynch ODM, and the worst Pie can do along with the factional night kill is roleblocking, which Fort does not care about anyway. He can just retaliate and kill her, and town wins. So even though Pie is scummier, it's better to go for ODM.

[PieLovesEveryone]

My other ability is useless, because it's sole job was to track down Venom. (In my role, it talks about 'a Symbiote loose in New York', obviously Venom, unless there is another 3rd/Mafia who is Carnage.) It's only useable when I'm not hiding, so every other night. Unfortunatley Venom is dead so there's no need for it.


((In one of the Alternate Reality versions the Comics, Nick Fury hunts down and captures Venom, and uses him to attract and capture Carnage.))


I think the chance of two copiers, with one being a one-shot version is just too unreal for me. Lynch ODM. Sorry man, but Venom was the copier. I doubt there would be two.

[Fort Colorcastle]

It's only PMyLo, because if there's a doc that keeps protecting me, we can't lose until he's dead. Imo ODM and Pie both have very sketchy claims. Though Odm did ouch pretty hard against pie... :/ I think we should lynch one today regardless of the probably mylo (Obsessive Dick Movement pushed for an nl, kinda scummy at this point) 

anyways, in case I wasn't clear earlier, UL Pie
Lynch ODM because that claim is the one that's confirmed to be a repeat role. I realize that I am just repeating people statements quite a bit, sorry about that. 

I will kill pie tonight, unless the town argues for me to do otherwise. Doc, protect me so I don't die tonight pls.

Rssp1, did you ever give a list of what investigations you had? Or is it the standard tracker, watcher, follower, etc bundle?

[rssp1]

the standard bundle you mentioned.
I believe I said all my results in a post before today.
I guess i'd be up for a lynch on ODM, then kill pie or citrus if he's town, since both of them are then confirmed mafia.

[rssp1]

so yeah, i'll lynch:ODM
I would be somewhat sad if there was some way that mafia screwed us over if ODM is town.
Fort, your action is first out of any action, correct?

[incognito]

Well, if that's what you decided... This isn't the wisest thing to do guys, I'm fairly certain it's mylo and you're putting our entire fate in the hands of fort. NLing today would mean better odds to get the right mafia. I'll just add something that will make me way too scummy. No one is clear. Fort has killed the town cop and a third party role. I said he would be clear if drookez flipped mafia, but he didn't. He's also claiming miller which is kinda scummy. Either way i strongly suggest you reconsider your lynch.

[incognito]

P.S: I was first one to claim, and I claimed a pretty well known character when there was 9 people left in the game. I think that should be taken into consideration. Also, lynching me while I'm asleep and can't defend myself. Smh.