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Post by incognito on Nov 11, 2014 9:03:06 GMT
P.P.S: I am NOT a copier. I am an ability stealer. As in I don't copy the ability, I steal it permanently, the other guy cant use it anymore.
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Post by rssp1 on Nov 11, 2014 9:04:20 GMT
unlynch ODM for now
I need to think more before i make my decision, we shouldn't rush into this.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2014 15:45:01 GMT
We do need to think of it a bit more, actually. But it should be noted that the only thing we have left to do for now is scumhunt. Assuming we lynch today, it will become obvious what we need to do tomorrow. Even if ODM is town (nope) we still win because fort kills pie tonight, then you lynch me tomorrow. There is no chance mafia can win now because we have a priority vigilante, two days for lynching, one night for killing, and three definitive suspects.
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LYNCH ODM
Forgot to cast my vote. Your plan will work, rssp1. That's three out of the four necessary votes. Me, Pie, and fort went for him. We just need rssp1's or shotgunmerc's vote.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2014 16:25:38 GMT
Well, if that's what you decided... This isn't the wisest thing to do guys, I'm fairly certain it's mylo and you're putting our entire fate in the hands of fort. NLing today would mean better odds to get the right mafia. I'll just add something that will make me way too scummy. No one is clear. Fort has killed the town cop and a third party role. I said he would be clear if drookez flipped mafia, but he didn't. He's also claiming miller which is kinda scummy. Either way i strongly suggest you reconsider your lynch. ^ This post though. Let's think about this. Let's say we have an exact replica of our scenario, with the scummy three being renamed A, B, and C. For the sake of our argument, let's say person B is the town guy. The town tries to lynch A, and succeeds. Great, a mafia guy died, tonight the doctor can protect the vigilante while the vigilante attacks either B or C. Oh, he killed C? Yay, town wins! But if he goes for B? Ah well. The doctor and another villy died. So the vigilante and the other townie know for a fact that person C is the remaining mafia. They lynch them, and town wins. Moral of the story: if we lynch a mafia today, town guaranteed wins.
Let's also say town lynches person B. Dang it. So person A and C are confirmed mafia. Let's say that person A makes the nightkill. The vigilante goes for person A. Nobody dies tonight, great! Town lynches person C the next day, and town wins. But let's also say that the vigilante goes for person C. Well, person A knew that the doc would protect the vigilante. He killed the doctor, doctor dies. The next day, the vigilante and another townie are alive, so person A is lynched the next day. Town wins again! Moral of the story: if we lynch the townie member of the scummy three today, town wins.
But let's say the town does not lynch today. Well, that leaves a chance that the vigilante kills the townie tonight, and the mafia is allowed to do whatever they want with their abilities because one of them does not have to do the nightkill. We do not know what the mafia's abilities could be because they obviously will not claim. Granted, this risk also exists if we lynch the townie, but it is more likely this will happen if we NL than the one third chance that the person we lynch is townie.
Also, read my previous post on why it is better to go for ODM instead of Pie if you believe I am the townie member of the scummy three.
Better yet, I'll quote it below.
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Post by incognito on Nov 11, 2014 18:06:07 GMT
Rssp, the only problem with this logic is that there is no A,B and C. It is A,B,C,D,E and F. Drookez was the one that killed Vex. NO ONE IS CLEAR. Fort only killed a third part and a Town Cop ffs. Rssp is clearing shotgun but for all we know they could be the remaining mafia team. Pie and Citrus' Roleclaims were scummy as fuck.
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Post by incognito on Nov 11, 2014 18:11:24 GMT
Possible Combos for when I die as town:
Rssp + Shotgunmerc
Fort + anyone really but probably pie
Pie + Citrus.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2014 18:44:01 GMT
Now would be a good time for everybody to post reads. As for me:
ODM: as far as I'm concerned, you are very nearly guaranteed scum. 90%
Pie: very nearly guaranteed scum, but less of a priority than ODM because abilities. 95%
Rssp1: Your stories do not conflict with my knowledge, as well as the collective knowledge. You are clear. 5%
Fort: Same as rssp1, but ODM does have a point in that you've not killed a single mafia so far. That does make you subject to more suspicion. But nobody bar ODM has a problem with you and nobody can offer any evidence against you. 10%
Shotgunmerc: The same as the above two. You were lurking for a long time, though. 10%
Possible mafia combinations:
ODM+Pie
In the extremely off chance that ODM is town, Pie+Fort. But this is really not a very big chance in my opinion.
ODM, if you have more information on why you suspect everyone, please share it. You've offered no explanation so far other than essentially saying "well obviously". Well obviously, nobody can ever be completely clear. But that's what evidence is for. And you're ignoring the evidence in order to make the previous point more forcefully. If you don't give us more information on why you feel so strongly this way, it really just sounds like you're simply trying to divert attention away from yourself because others might be guilty instead of you. |
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Post by rssp1 on Nov 11, 2014 18:44:35 GMT
deadline is sunday so i'd like shotgun's opinion as well before I do anything
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2014 18:46:34 GMT
Rssp1, any thoughts you'd like to share?
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Post by incognito on Nov 11, 2014 19:01:39 GMT
What evidence? There is no evidence of anything, No one has really helped town except drookez. And he was scum. I'm not diverting attention off myself ofc i'm scummy claiming a very up role and targeting a dead guy on the night he died. I'm just saying we do not have any confirmation that anyone is town. So no need to start bws right now.
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Post by PieLovesEveryone on Nov 11, 2014 19:07:11 GMT
ODM seems to be trying very hard to avoid getting lynched. YOu're switching between saying it's best to NL, then it's best ot kill me, then you say it's Fort. Honestly, you look like you're grasping at straws now mate.
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Post by incognito on Nov 11, 2014 19:18:44 GMT
IT IS BEST TO NL. If you guys insist on lynching someone go ahead, but lynching me is a huge mistake. I have not switched anything.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2014 19:21:16 GMT
Even if we lynch a town member today, we still win. The fact that ODM doesn't understand this either confirms that he really doesn't trust Fort, or that he is mafia and knows that he will be unable to carry out a specified plan if he gets lynched. Seeing as how I trust fort, I maintain my lynch vote on him.
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Post by incognito on Nov 11, 2014 19:23:39 GMT
Please then, explain the reason why you trust fort this much.
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Post by rssp1 on Nov 11, 2014 19:45:09 GMT
Why would there be a maf vig?
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Post by Mob Boss on Nov 11, 2014 19:45:30 GMT
deadline is sunday so i'd like shotgun's opinion as well before I do anything rssp1, last sunday was the deadline but I gave extension to today so today is the deadline. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2014 19:54:22 GMT
Should we get another extension, guys?
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Post by rssp1 on Nov 11, 2014 19:55:45 GMT
can we have another extension? nling today is the worst possible outcome.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2014 20:02:23 GMT
We're one vote away from lynching one of the scummy three. That was your whole idea, right? What changed your mind?
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Post by incognito on Nov 11, 2014 20:47:15 GMT
Last thing I'm gonna say. Fort when I die, just shoot citrus first (if you are town and not scum as I suspect) . He wants you to lynch me so hard he probably has a plan in mind. Also, I am opposed to the extension for obvious reasons. If there is one however I wont be online for at least 24 hours starting in a couple of hours when I go to sleep.
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Post by Mob Boss on Nov 12, 2014 0:07:30 GMT
2 people want extension and deadline is in 3 hours and a half.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2014 0:26:47 GMT
rssp1 and shotgunmerc, it's now or never if we want to lynch ODM or no lynch for today. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2014 0:28:30 GMT
We are probably not going to get the required number of requests for a deadline, and NLing now is the worst possible outcome, as rssp1 said. |
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Post by rssp1 on Nov 12, 2014 1:07:49 GMT
Screw it. If fort isn't town, we've lost.
hopefully this works out.
lynch: ODM
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Post by Mob Boss on Nov 12, 2014 1:27:18 GMT
Hammah The Black Cat (ODM) crossed the town's path and was lynched never seen ever again... RoleNight 5 START!
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