Celebration Mafia Game 2 Thread: Game Over

[angelmpr]

Jul 3, 2022 13:25:01 GMT cyan said:

Jul 3, 2022 8:19:45 GMT shadoweavile said:

reads (order from most towny to most scummy):

leaning town:

ohsnapa i feel has a towny thinking progress even if he shitposted a lot early day, he has a solid read on sylv

null:

Erry has one post of content and while the post is towny one post is not enough to be put in the town category

spore has a lot of one-liners and shitposting messages

Kliff posting a meme once and then proceeding to do nothing is weird, but not necessarily scum-indicative

Sylveonrando's lines indicate that they are either scum or bad town. From their lines only I'd put them in the "leaning scum" section, but because it conflicts with my other, bigger scumread (mmib) I'm putting sylv in the null section.


leaning scum:

pacncheese's each and every post is filler

Cyan Talon hasn't really participated that much or put pressure on anyone, their one vote is on the easiest guy to vote

mymemoryisbad has a lot of one-liners early and then when someone (ohsnapa) starts making a push mmib pushes that further, which feels to me as scum (mmib) manipulating a town (snapa) into voting another town


VOTE: mymemoryisbad

not a single of these reads shows intent to read into the game btw

- if you're going to talk about ohsnapa's thinking process, point out parts of it. otherwise, you're just pocketing.
- your reads on both kliff and spore come across as being there for the sake of being there. no substance
- your primary scumread is that mmib is... wagoning with extra steps. you're also not justifying your read here by saying it "feels to you as scum" because you have negative reasons to believe sylveon is town in the first place

like you can't have come off of 5 pages of meaningful dialogue and come up with this shit because it's woefully underdeveloped

I find the mmib is kinda random.. but early pages were filler and shit posting so i dont blame him for lacking detail in his reads. 

Cyan on the other hand, is coming out super aggressive after the general consensus is that he isnt trying and hasnt been here. The was litrally a post that said cop cyan and bodyguard cyan on this same page. Did this make cyan nervous? 

In terms of sr and tr, everyone is mostly null for me. Read early pages but didnt bother on alot of ohsnapas 1 sentence shit post tbh. 
 
Vote Erry
Cop should inspect cyan.
yes i wob

[mymemoryisbad]

Jul 3, 2022 4:00:30 GMT ohsnapa said:

Jul 3, 2022 3:54:21 GMT mymemoryisbad said:

snapa has been saying weird as fuck stuff, but im sorry that line is so horrificly scummy and just plain bad, snapa has made some reads tho he words them annoyingly. there are more info these posts than id expect, even with a lot of shitposting early on. i feel like this is some bad attempt from sylv at pointing a finger of one of many people who trolled.

wtf do u mean wording them annoyingly lmao i just made a scale so ur dumbass could read my reads easier

sylv is a -5 or -6 on the scale, meaning they're PROBABLY scummy, approaching MOST LIKELY

oh mb snapa, this line is from a while ago but

i didnt mean you, i meant sylv was being scummy as fuck, for clarity of who i was sring in that post

also it was kinda annoying to with the fortnite shit, but im saying u have progressed from that

[mymemoryisbad]

Jul 3, 2022 4:42:45 GMT Sylveon & Rando said:

Jul 3, 2022 4:28:56 GMT cyan said:

ohsnapa calling your attention to this

Why? Is that message suspicious? Also, what happened to you're "Don't keep it brief" mentality?

i already explained why imo it was suspicious a bit ago, but regardless and simply put

this just looks like "who is the funniest" reads or smthn. i dont see any good logic or actual logic as to voting spore from this

also breifness isnt what you should go for.. its better to put a lot of refined info into one post rather than a small amount of brief info or a lot of bits of short info

[mymemoryisbad]

Jul 3, 2022 5:06:44 GMT Sylveon & Rando said:

Jul 3, 2022 5:00:06 GMT erry said:

This is a very telling post. None of these reads have much substance at all, for instance, in the Spore read it feels like you listed something then realized that it didn't actually make them scum so you tacked something else onto the end as a side note.

What I also find it interesting that Sylv chose to switch votes here given Cyan's very recent FOS on Mem. If they were scum here I honestly can't see a reason for them to make this post and try to cast blame on other players, as well as switch votes here (Unless they're scum partners with Mem).

The read on Snapa is the most interesting part of this post though, they listed actual reasons as to why they scum read Snapa (moreso than the read on Spore at least), but then at the end they decide to vote Spore over Snapa when changing vote (Despite the fact that, again, their read on Spore felt largely half-baked).
As for this post, as a few others have pointed out, it doesn't seem likely that scum would make a post here that directly implies suspicious behavior on their part/blatantly trying hard to look innocent. Elaborating on those notes a bit further, this post feels more like nervous town overthinking things (Since people have been looking at Sylv as potential scum), and trying to prove their innocence, than actual scum.

Finally, this is another very bad post. I mean this in the nicest way possible, but this is such weird thing to post as either scum or town. For town this feels like a "haha look I'm innocent!" post, rather than an actual attempt to vote either of them out (Unless you're really bad town) 

While for scum this feels more like a "haha look I'm innocent because I'm making reads!" post than an actual attempt to vote either of them out... (Unless you're really bad scum..)

I feel as though the first scenario is more-likely given a very similar line of logic appearing in their previous post (As previously mentioned).

Regardless, in either scenario Sylv wouldn't have been making the best plays though for their alignment. So going back the initial post mentioned, reading it again under the lens that Sylv is just playing bad, it fits in-line with them being bad town, for the reasons mentioned in response to said post.


tldr; tl on Sylv (Don't think they're scum, just very bad town)

^This! It can be very stressful when everyone think's you're scum! I'll try to make good reads tommorrow, but I should go to bed. It's currently midnight here!!! GN yall!

maybe you are scum! i dont see how it can be so stressful when you have 2-3 votes on you out of many players... 

this is like a pity excuse. "im making bad reads sorry everybody thinks im scum waah"

im so sorry but that line feels like absolute bullshit. it seems to me like ur happy somebody pitied you and your now just riding along with it... however well see how have things have changed later

[mymemoryisbad]

Jul 3, 2022 14:02:52 GMT angelmpr said:

Jul 3, 2022 13:25:01 GMT cyan said:

not a single of these reads shows intent to read into the game btw

- if you're going to talk about ohsnapa's thinking process, point out parts of it. otherwise, you're just pocketing.
- your reads on both kliff and spore come across as being there for the sake of being there. no substance
- your primary scumread is that mmib is... wagoning with extra steps. you're also not justifying your read here by saying it "feels to you as scum" because you have negative reasons to believe sylveon is town in the first place

like you can't have come off of 5 pages of meaningful dialogue and come up with this shit because it's woefully underdeveloped

I find the mmib is kinda random.. but early pages were filler and shit posting so i dont blame him for lacking detail in his reads. 

Cyan on the other hand, is coming out super aggressive after the general consensus is that he isnt trying and hasnt been here. The was litrally a post that said cop cyan and bodyguard cyan on this same page. Did this make cyan nervous? 

In terms of sr and tr, everyone is mostly null for me. Read early pages but didnt bother on alot of ohsnapas 1 sentence shit post tbh. 
 
Vote Erry
Cop should inspect cyan.
yes i wob

the 4 people that were here from the beginning (me, spore, sylv, snapa) all shitposted/fillered. it slowly became... "better" reads, but we really did not seem to be taking it seriously.

however, now that we have more people and more posts, i have settled on a sylv sr as they seem to be stuck in the "its ok to vote people for meming early on" phase, and really just have given basic reads

spore and cyan are my sls, because spore unnaturally shifted from shitposty to serious.. i think something happened and he now realizes hes gotta start playing for real.

cyan came in, told us to do better, and then gave not a lot of reads. hes been more null but for now hes an sl but that could change

[mymemoryisbad]

Jul 3, 2022 8:19:45 GMT shadoweavile said:

reads (order from most towny to most scummy):

leaning town:

ohsnapa i feel has a towny thinking progress even if he shitposted a lot early day, he has a solid read on sylv

null:

Erry has one post of content and while the post is towny one post is not enough to be put in the town category

spore has a lot of one-liners and shitposting messages

Kliff posting a meme once and then proceeding to do nothing is weird, but not necessarily scum-indicative

Sylveonrando's lines indicate that they are either scum or bad town. From their lines only I'd put them in the "leaning scum" section, but because it conflicts with my other, bigger scumread (mmib) I'm putting sylv in the null section.


leaning scum:

pacncheese's each and every post is filler

Cyan Talon hasn't really participated that much or put pressure on anyone, their one vote is on the easiest guy to vote

mymemoryisbad has a lot of one-liners early and then when someone (ohsnapa) starts making a push mmib pushes that further, which feels to me as scum (mmib) manipulating a town (snapa) into voting another town


VOTE: mymemoryisbad

i feel like the reason for my vote just isnt that... original

shadow, 3 other people shitposted early on, and i do agree that pacncheese is literally just fillering

things quickly changed tho. before we had more people come we had about half of a read, but things became more solid. i also dont see how im manipulating anybody as snapa voted sylv before me, and i also feel i stopped shitposting a bit earlier than snapa... also if im scum for 'wagoning' then how is cyan not (from ur POV)? i mean, according to you he "hasn't really participated much" and is "on the easiest guy to vote"

not to mention i have given just as many reasons or more to vote sylv, it seems like you missed a few of mine...

after all this shadow is null- they have so many null reads, and i feel more info than that has been given out... for the most part most of their reads make some sense, but i just dont see as much info drawn then what could have been pulled from previous posts

[mymemoryisbad]

my sr and vote still stays on sylveon. they're keeping it brief which in some senses is fine, but i personally would like to see some more info in their reads and deeper meanings. i cant remember all the lines they posted but i remember i gave more reasons and replied to a bunch of those lines rn, sylv is a -4.5


shadow and cyan are null, shadow just seems to be trying to form more complex reads atm, just feel like the unsureness could them trying to be careful scum or a logical townie, idk, theyre like a 1

cyan seems to be just like... pressuring people, but i dont see a clear sr here other than sylv. cyan has been questioning others and also making some pretty informative long blocks of text, so ig im giving them a 1.5... might rise later

erry is my tl because they come in, give a solid couple paragraphs that make sense, and overall just give a townie feeling from their lines- theyre a 3.

snapa was shitposting a lot early on, but other people were too, and i dont like how he got sred a little for that. he had a mainly natural shift from goofy to serious, and even during the rvs when he was meming he was making some solid reads. you just had to read past the fortnite balls OwO bs.. snapa is a 3.5 rn

angel has posted like once or twice but it was a good post. not really enough info to read em, but based off the one post theyre a very null 0

uhh pacncheese has just fillered this entire time and like wants to buddy up with people or smthn? like looking back at his posts hes tryna find alliances it seems, which idt is very good here. like hes questioning stuff just not the right stuff... or tryna avoid some shit idk. theyre an sl -1.5

[Sylveon & Rando]

Jul 3, 2022 14:02:52 GMT angelmpr said:

Jul 3, 2022 13:25:01 GMT cyan said:

not a single of these reads shows intent to read into the game btw

- if you're going to talk about ohsnapa's thinking process, point out parts of it. otherwise, you're just pocketing.
- your reads on both kliff and spore come across as being there for the sake of being there. no substance
- your primary scumread is that mmib is... wagoning with extra steps. you're also not justifying your read here by saying it "feels to you as scum" because you have negative reasons to believe sylveon is town in the first place

like you can't have come off of 5 pages of meaningful dialogue and come up with this shit because it's woefully underdeveloped

I find the mmib is kinda random.. but early pages were filler and shit posting so i dont blame him for lacking detail in his reads. 

Cyan on the other hand, is coming out super aggressive after the general consensus is that he isnt trying and hasnt been here. The was literally a post that said cop cyan and bodyguard cyan on this same page. Did this make cyan nervous? 

I saw that message. It was shit. Also, bodyguard on you is good for scum too, right? And you forget that scum RB exists, right? They can block the cop, and then just not care about the bodyguard because they dont give a shit about being docced.

In terms of sr and tr, everyone is mostly null for me. Read early pages but didnt bother on alot of ohsnapas 1 sentence shit post tbh. 

This is your first message though as far as I'm aware! Telling people to look at early pages can't explain your reads unless:

A: You tell people what to look for.

B: You said something in the early pages that proves your point!

You did neither. How can we tell what your read means when we have to waste time focusing on past events instead of people's current accusations?

Vote Erry
Cop should inspect cyan.
yes i wob

And then you vote erry despite not even talking about them at all? Why?!?!

Jul 3, 2022 14:51:35 GMT mymemoryisbad said:

Jul 3, 2022 5:06:44 GMT Sylveon & Rando said:

^This! It can be very stressful when everyone think's you're scum! I'll try to make good reads tommorrow, but I should go to bed. It's currently midnight here!!! GN yall!

maybe you are scum! i dont see how it can be so stressful when you have 2-3 votes on you out of many players... 

Ignoring the fact that there was only 3 other players online. When everybody currently in chat think's you're scum, it feels like everyone think's you're scum.

this is like a pity excuse. "im making bad reads sorry everybody thinks im scum waah"

It's more like "Sorry about making bad reads, I'll try to do better!" I don't need pity to become a better player!!!!

im so sorry but that line feels like absolute bullshit. it seems to me like ur happy somebody pitied you and your now just riding along with it...

Erry's message was not pity at all! It was constructive critism! And I took that constructive criticism!

however well see how have things have changed later

Wtf does this even mean? Also, fix your grammar. Aprostophes exist for a reason!

As you can see, I put my comments in purple. Honestly, I think cyan is a 5 here, angel is a 3, and mem's at -3. Snapa was at -2, so I'm voting mem!

Vote: Mem

Reads have no merit IMO, and the ominous message at the end creeps me out. GG I found scum!!! 

[mymemoryisbad]

my forums is lagging holup

[Sylveon & Rando]

Let's all take a break and play 12pm fish! Forums can be stressing imo

[mymemoryisbad]

Jul 3, 2022 15:49:31 GMT Sylveon & Rando said:

Jul 3, 2022 14:02:52 GMT angelmpr said:

I find the mmib is kinda random.. but early pages were filler and shit posting so i dont blame him for lacking detail in his reads. 

Cyan on the other hand, is coming out super aggressive after the general consensus is that he isnt trying and hasnt been here. The was literally a post that said cop cyan and bodyguard cyan on this same page. Did this make cyan nervous? 

I saw that message. It was shit. Also, bodyguard on you is good for scum too, right? And you forget that scum RB exists, right? They can block the cop, and then just not care about the bodyguard because they dont give a shit about being docced.

In terms of sr and tr, everyone is mostly null for me. Read early pages but didnt bother on alot of ohsnapas 1 sentence shit post tbh. 

This is your first message though as far as I'm aware! Telling people to look at early pages can't explain your reads unless:

A: You tell people what to look for.

B: You said something in the early pages that proves your point!

You did neither. How can we tell what your read means when we have to waste time focusing on past events instead of people's current accusations?

Vote Erry
Cop should inspect cyan.
yes i wob

And then you vote erry despite not even talking about them at all? Why?!?!

Jul 3, 2022 14:51:35 GMT mymemoryisbad said:

maybe you are scum! i dont see how it can be so stressful when you have 2-3 votes on you out of many players... 

Ignoring the fact that there was only 3 other players online. When everybody currently in chat think's you're scum, it feels like everyone think's you're scum.

this is like a pity excuse. "im making bad reads sorry everybody thinks im scum waah"

It's more like "Sorry about making bad reads, I'll try to do better!" I don't need pity to become a better player!!!!

im so sorry but that line feels like absolute bullshit. it seems to me like ur happy somebody pitied you and your now just riding along with it...

Erry's message was not pity at all! It was constructive critism! And I took that constructive criticism!

however well see how have things have changed later

Wtf does this even mean? Also, fix your grammar. Aprostophes exist for a reason!

As you can see, I put my comments in purple. Honestly, I think cyan is a 5 here, angel is a 3, and mem's at -3. Snapa was at -2, so I'm voting mem!

Vote: Mem

Reads have no merit IMO, and the ominous message at the end creeps me out. GG I found scum!!! 

first of all if we gonna be complaining about grammar then apostrophes* criticism* 

also that message wasnt ominous- you said youd be back and try and make better reads, which will quite obviously affect my view on ur townieness

also reads do have merit. if somebody just seems to be going with a general consensus or somebody is just lurking and has very little info on reads, ill become suspicious of them. saying they have no merit might just be bad wording of what u rly meant, but reads do have importance here

 

[cyan]

Jul 3, 2022 14:02:52 GMT angelmpr said:

Jul 3, 2022 13:25:01 GMT cyan said:

not a single of these reads shows intent to read into the game btw

- if you're going to talk about ohsnapa's thinking process, point out parts of it. otherwise, you're just pocketing.
- your reads on both kliff and spore come across as being there for the sake of being there. no substance
- your primary scumread is that mmib is... wagoning with extra steps. you're also not justifying your read here by saying it "feels to you as scum" because you have negative reasons to believe sylveon is town in the first place

like you can't have come off of 5 pages of meaningful dialogue and come up with this shit because it's woefully underdeveloped

I find the mmib is kinda random.. but early pages were filler and shit posting so i dont blame him for lacking detail in his reads. 

stop with the euphemisms, mate. these aren't the reads of someone who skimmed through 5 pages of text trying to make sense of the game. these are placeholders put in by someone who didn't even bother.

Cyan on the other hand, is coming out super aggressive after the general consensus is that he isnt trying and hasnt been here. The was litrally a post that said cop cyan and bodyguard cyan on this same page. Did this make cyan nervous? 

am i not allowed to be aggressive right now or am i supposed to be aggressive from Post 1?

In terms of sr and tr, everyone is mostly null for me. Read early pages but didnt bother on alot of ohsnapas 1 sentence shit post tbh. 
 
Vote Erry
Cop should inspect cyan.
yes i wob

if you're going to follow up a "everyone is null" with a vote, i'm inclined to assume it's RVS. if you're RVSing this late in the game, i beseech you to reconsider.

Jul 3, 2022 15:49:31 GMT Sylveon & Rando said:

Jul 3, 2022 14:02:52 GMT angelmpr said:

I find the mmib is kinda random.. but early pages were filler and shit posting so i dont blame him for lacking detail in his reads. 

Cyan on the other hand, is coming out super aggressive after the general consensus is that he isnt trying and hasnt been here. The was literally a post that said cop cyan and bodyguard cyan on this same page. Did this make cyan nervous? 

I saw that message. It was shit. Also, bodyguard on you is good for scum too, right? And you forget that scum RB exists, right? They can block the cop, and then just not care about the bodyguard because they dont give a shit about being docced.

just about everything is wrong about this response, mainly that:

- you responded in the first place
- you assume scum!cy's team would be confident enough to get the cop blocked without fail
- i could just be town, guys?

In terms of sr and tr, everyone is mostly null for me. Read early pages but didnt bother on alot of ohsnapas 1 sentence shit post tbh. 

This is your first message though as far as I'm aware! Telling people to look at early pages can't explain your reads unless:

A: You tell people what to look for.

B: You said something in the early pages that proves your point!

You did neither. How can we tell what your read means when we have to waste time focusing on past events instead of people's current accusations?

+1 on this angle of questioning, btw. really need angel to deliver some follow-ups otherwise i'm assuming angel v. sylveon is a hard svt

Vote Erry
Cop should inspect cyan.
yes i wob

And then you vote erry despite not even talking about them at all? Why?!?!

Jul 3, 2022 14:51:35 GMT mymemoryisbad said:

maybe you are scum! i dont see how it can be so stressful when you have 2-3 votes on you out of many players... 

Ignoring the fact that there was only 3 other players online. When everybody currently in chat think's you're scum, it feels like everyone think's you're scum.

this is like a pity excuse. "im making bad reads sorry everybody thinks im scum waah"

It's more like "Sorry about making bad reads, I'll try to do better!" I don't need pity to become a better player!!!!

im so sorry but that line feels like absolute bullshit. it seems to me like ur happy somebody pitied you and your now just riding along with it...

Erry's message was not pity at all! It was constructive critism! And I took that constructive criticism!

however well see how have things have changed later

Wtf does this even mean? Also, fix your grammar. Aprostophes exist for a reason!

half of this post is emotion. i'm not going to say that you shouldn't be emotional, but there is literally no substance to this set of counterattacks. i can summarize this entire interaction as mmib going "you're too tilted to be town rn" and sylv responding with even more tilt. which is funny.

As you can see, I put my comments in purple. Honestly, I think cyan is a 5 here, angel is a 3, and mem's at -3. Snapa was at -2, so I'm voting mem!

Vote: Mem

Reads have no merit IMO, and the ominous message at the end creeps me out. GG I found scum!!! 

if by "reads" you mean "reads on you" then you have said nothing of value

Once again, responses in cyan. Get dark mode or something.

Jul 3, 2022 16:00:38 GMT Sylveon & Rando said:

Let's all take a break and play 12pm fish! Forums can be stressing imo

blatant defuse attempt but ok

[cyan]

should probably put it out here that i am no longer confident to any extent that sylveon & rando is scum because the slapdash play is leaning slightly into town panic behaviour. still, we can get something out of this

Unvote pacncheese[\b]
Vote Sylveon & Rando[\b]

[Sylveon & Rando]

Jul 3, 2022 16:02:43 GMT mymemoryisbad said:

Jul 3, 2022 15:49:31 GMT Sylveon & Rando said:

As you can see, I put my comments in purple. Honestly, I think cyan is a 5 here, angel is a 3, and mem's at -3. Snapa was at -2, so I'm voting mem!

Vote: Mem

Reads have no merit IMO, and the ominous message at the end creeps me out. GG I found scum!!! 

first of all if we gonna be complaining about grammar then apostrophes* criticism* 

also that message wasnt ominous- you said youd be back and try and make better reads, which will quite obviously affect my view on ur townieness

also reads do have merit. if somebody just seems to be going with a general consensus or somebody is just lurking and has very little info on reads, ill become suspicious of them. saying they have no merit might just be bad wording of what u rly meant, but reads do have importance here

What I meant is that your reads dont have much merit imo. Reads are always important, so idk why you thought I said reads have no merit in general.
Also: "however we'll see how have things have changed later" is absolutely omnious, and that's what I was pointing out.

My kindle is bad at word prediction which is why is spelt apostrophes wrong. However, I did write criticism right the second time and just forgot to correct the first use of the word.

Besides, you can tell what word I'm trying to say. We'll, without the apostrophe, looks like well. You know, the place you get water from?

[Sylveon & Rando]

Jul 3, 2022 16:50:35 GMT cyan said:

Jul 3, 2022 14:02:52 GMT angelmpr said:

I find the mmib is kinda random.. but early pages were filler and shit posting so i dont blame him for lacking detail in his reads. 

stop with the euphemisms, mate. these aren't the reads of someone who skimmed through 5 pages of text trying to make sense of the game. these are placeholders put in by someone who didn't even bother.

Cyan on the other hand, is coming out super aggressive after the general consensus is that he isnt trying and hasnt been here. The was litrally a post that said cop cyan and bodyguard cyan on this same page. Did this make cyan nervous? 

am i not allowed to be aggressive right now or am i supposed to be aggressive from Post 1?

Also, why is cyan as scum gonna be nervous about dying? They have 3 partners, and unless they're the RB, they have no reason to worry. Besides, the bodyguard mention was unessacary.

In terms of sr and tr, everyone is mostly null for me. Read early pages but didnt bother on alot of ohsnapas 1 sentence shit post tbh. 
 
Vote Erry
Cop should inspect cyan.
yes i wob

if you're going to follow up a "everyone is null" with a vote, i'm inclined to assume it's RVS. if you're RVSing this late in the game, i beseech you to reconsider.

I never considered it might be rvs because we've moved past it. Angel, if you're not rvsing, explain your reasoning here.

Jul 3, 2022 15:49:31 GMT Sylveon & Rando said:

As you can see, I put my comments in purple. Honestly, I think cyan is a 5 here, angel is a 3, and mem's at -3. Snapa was at -2, so I'm voting mem!

Vote: Mem

Reads have no merit IMO, and the ominous message at the end creeps me out. GG I found scum!!! 

if by "reads" you mean "reads on you" then you have said nothing of value

Once again, responses in cyan. Get dark mode or something. My responses are in pink, btw. It was to prevent confusion, but it doesnt show the quotes where my original responses were.

Jul 3, 2022 16:00:38 GMT Sylveon & Rando said:

Let's all take a break and play 12pm fish! Forums can be stressing imo

blatant defuse attempt but ok Fish is fun, and I can't try to defuse a situation without knowing about the situation. This point does not land.

I'm gonna retreive the original message with the edits from cyan. It'll have to be in a separate post, however.

[mymemoryisbad]

this post is just here so i can get 69 as my posts

[spore]

Jul 3, 2022 14:58:49 GMT mymemoryisbad said:

Jul 3, 2022 14:02:52 GMT angelmpr said:

I find the mmib is kinda random.. but early pages were filler and shit posting so i dont blame him for lacking detail in his reads. 

Cyan on the other hand, is coming out super aggressive after the general consensus is that he isnt trying and hasnt been here. The was litrally a post that said cop cyan and bodyguard cyan on this same page. Did this make cyan nervous? 

In terms of sr and tr, everyone is mostly null for me. Read early pages but didnt bother on alot of ohsnapas 1 sentence shit post tbh. 
 
Vote Erry
Cop should inspect cyan.
yes i wob

the 4 people that were here from the beginning (me, spore, sylv, snapa) all shitposted/fillered. it slowly became... "better" reads, but we really did not seem to be taking it seriously.

however, now that we have more people and more posts, i have settled on a sylv sr as they seem to be stuck in the "its ok to vote people for meming early on" phase, and really just have given basic reads

spore and cyan are my sls, because spore unnaturally shifted from shitposty to serious.. i think something happened and he now realizes hes gotta start playing for real.

cyan came in, told us to do better, and then gave not a lot of reads. hes been more null but for now hes an sl but that could change

my unnatural shift was prompted by everyone slowly shifting from shitposting to reads,erry and cyan came and started telling people to actually play the game.sylveon never shitposted in the first place,even ohsnapa was making reads followed by a sprinkle of shitposting after but he def got better,and mem had 2 lines of shitposting then got back to playing the game

the reason i shifted from memein to playin was cus everyone else had to change and because i wanna play this game and not get voted out d1,i started playing.you could say that this is pressure but both sides,town or scum would feel the need to start playing the game


also my man meme got his 69 ^

[chaostrodon]

hello hello

[chaostrodon]

ohsnapa sounds like a nice guy

[chaostrodon]

Jul 3, 2022 3:00:35 GMT spore said:

ohsnapa seems to be using some form of reverse psychology where scum would vote each other because no one would suspect that the first vote is the correct one. as expected of sir ohsnapa whose amazing iq of 53000 allows him to devise such amazing arguments.

unfortunately,sir ohsnapa seems too reliant on these reverse psychology reads that he has completely forgotten normal human psychology which is the basis of over 97% of human actions and thoughts

overall ohsnapa is deathtunneling because he is a sussy baka who plays fortnite in an attempt to get his fathers attention and make him come back with the milk.
f for ohsnapa

    Spore is cool , too

[chaostrodon]

Jul 3, 2022 3:13:30 GMT mymemoryisbad said:

also as we know among (us) the current 4 most active users probably none of us are aligned until more people show up

    We do? I could conclude that only for spore and ohsnapa at that point , Tbh not even sure of that , been out of this game for a long time

[zachattack01]

hello. this is my first time playing forum mafia and mafia on pokemon showdown as a whole so I hope this is fun! anyways i have some thoughts about what i've spent the past two hours reading so i'll try and discuss them as best as I can in my following messages

[zachattack01]

Jul 3, 2022 15:49:31 GMT Sylveon & Rando said:

Jul 3, 2022 14:02:52 GMT angelmpr said:

Jul 3, 2022 14:51:35 GMT mymemoryisbad said:

As you can see, I put my comments in purple. Honestly, I think cyan is a 5 here, angel is a 3, and mem's at -3. Snapa was at -2, so I'm voting mem!

Vote: Mem

Reads have no merit IMO, and the ominous message at the end creeps me out. GG I found scum!!! 

What does "reads have no merit" mean? What are you trying to say there? Reads are kind of the backbone of early game and help build a structure for how the rest of the game is played and who people read and lean toward. Saying they have no merit after discussing not only your own reads but even voting someone on day 1 after switching is either hypocritical or just plain dumb, and it is certainly scummy. I agree with the initial line of reasoning that you might not be good when people are pressuring you, which is fair, but now that people are actually voting you, you're just not making sense

[zachattack01]

Jul 3, 2022 4:26:34 GMT pacncheese said:

there have been 7 people who have posted till now and given some sort of read, I feel like the best call would be to trust one another this 7 group: snapa, me, sylv, spore, cyan, memory, erry. All I can see in this is that they have either tr'ed or sr'ed each other ruling out the fact that this cannot contain a whole 4 mafia scum faction. With clearing others from this point on, we should assume us a town and pursue the other 9 group as a potential full or half of scum faction. With that we would be able to get a scum for sure and then we can align our reads according to their logs and get the scum in our group if there is one.

Dude what? Saying this not only implies that there has been nothing of merit going on and that all discussion going on has been pointless, but that you REALLY wanna make allies with people instead of naturally doing so. There has, in fact been so much of substance going on that there can be reasonable reads made. For example, the way the cyan and snap discussion ended made it seem that they're of the same alignment (or at least they're reading each other as their own alignment). Despite going back and forth for a while, they came to the same conclusion and agreed about what they were disputing over. If they thought they weren't of the same alignment, whatever they were arguing over would still be going on now and be going nowhere. Trying to discourage that from happens seems, at the very least weird, and at the very most scummy. What was your thought process behind this?

(idk how to quote multiple things at a time so bear with me)

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Jul 3, 2022 0:36:38 GMT -4 pacncheese said:
all I am proposing is that there is a chance that none of us are scum and this progresses into nothing but sprouting doubts b/w others, making the game difficult and lacking in trust

More of what are you even trying to say? Like huh???

Jul 3, 2022 0:39:29 GMT -4 pacncheese said:
I feel like we ought to face the fact that none of the active ones yet have formed any kind alignment for a potential scum team or duo or w/e.

How can this even be a valid conclusion at this point in the game? so many people have been talking and disagreeing with each other and most importantly, YOU, and you haven't done anything to address it. I'm not susing you yet, I just want to know why you would say this and the other two posts?

Sorry if I'm wasting my time by focusing on what was ultimately supposed to be a poorly done attempt at filler.

[chaostrodon]

I had some posts selected and they all disappeared , that sucks , 

Anyway let me see what I had in mind, 

that one post of PacnCheese gave off bad vibes,

Erry and Cyan are likely not in a team , and I rather liked Erry's take on Sylv

vote pacncheese