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Post by kliff on Jul 17, 2022 1:43:05 GMT
kliff what're your feelings between voting martin and shadow? do you have any information on one or the other to make you more inclined to vote for one or the other? They Both can Die I probably go with shadow today Vote Shadoweavile
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Post by kliff on Jul 17, 2022 1:52:54 GMT
I would lean scum!marvin ftr their post makes it seem like they could've been pinged by scum partners to post there's no reason for them to stop lurking otherwise I think What are your thoughts on ohsnapa?
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Post by micromorphic on Jul 17, 2022 2:28:46 GMT
Votecount 5.1Deadline is in 24 hours and 2 minutes. If the day were to end now, cyan would be voted. Please message me if there's an error in the votecount.
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Post by cyan on Jul 17, 2022 9:38:19 GMT
in all seriousness though, if we are to push a lurker, I think we should push shadow instead of martin. martin's just been chilling, shadow said weird shit and then started chilling. one is more suspicious than the other. that is to say, martin's behavior could be that of a PR who REALLY wants to keep their information to themselves until the right time to share it while i don't think there's a valid justification for shadow going afk after what they said d1. also i don't want today to be "let's focus on the lurkers" when we had a giant case against cyan yesterday and cyan's rebuttal against mmib. both of those deserve to be looked into, and i really believe one of them is scum if martin is pr im probably gonna die. bro finally showed up and has been sooo inactive, i feel like if hes a pr he would definitely be tryna use his actions as like a means of who he should vote (like just a guide thing). surely no pr is that secretive. also town kinda thought that more scum is in the active pool... this is just a theory but since idling exists maybe they idled to not kill more lurking players who are scummy and mislead rb? also what did cyan say about me? and yeah shadow is gone too, are they gonna come back this post is another whole load of nothing. huh, second time how would pr!martin be spelling a death sentence for you? martin hasn't even shown evidence of reading the game, let alone pursued you for anything. maybe what you're really worried about is being next, but that wouldn't make sense because i'm the guy on plur and you seem to be well-aware of that i read this post as martin being paranoid for their own survival, and that doesn't feel like a town-aligned sentiment. it's not vt because it's obviously not vt, and it's not pr because pr's wouldn't be super-paranoid this late in the game when claiming is a viable tool for deflecting attention I would lean scum!marvin ftr their post makes it seem like they could've been pinged by scum partners to post there's no reason for them to stop lurking otherwise I think martin liked a post of all things tho i feel like he did that possibly by accident but then got called out by kliff on it fsr he didnt seem worried at all and then made like 2 posts that just said hi or sum shit weird slot, but i can see him as scum a pathological lurker isn't going to suddenly pop up and say "hi" without good reason not sure what your point is
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Post by cyan on Jul 17, 2022 9:39:15 GMT
since discussion is a necessary thing here, though mymemoryisbad i want you to recount your reasons for voting both sylv and chaos d1, and why you decided to vote chaos instead of sylv at the end
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Post by mymemoryisbad on Jul 17, 2022 14:20:13 GMT
shadoweavile post right now you have not been subbed out which means you're sending micro things reveal your true form Crazy thought but the fact that they haven’t been subbed out makes me think they have a night action that’s they communicating to micro. Would lean shadow as scum versus PR this makes sense but youre also supposed to idle n all that
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Post by mymemoryisbad on Jul 17, 2022 14:22:40 GMT
if martin is pr im probably gonna die. bro finally showed up and has been sooo inactive, i feel like if hes a pr he would definitely be tryna use his actions as like a means of who he should vote (like just a guide thing). surely no pr is that secretive. also town kinda thought that more scum is in the active pool... this is just a theory but since idling exists maybe they idled to not kill more lurking players who are scummy and mislead rb? also what did cyan say about me? and yeah shadow is gone too, are they gonna come back this post is another whole load of nothing. huh, second time how would pr!martin be spelling a death sentence for you? martin hasn't even shown evidence of reading the game, let alone pursued you for anything. maybe what you're really worried about is being next, but that wouldn't make sense because i'm the guy on plur and you seem to be well-aware of that i read this post as martin being paranoid for their own survival, and that doesn't feel like a town-aligned sentiment. it's not vt because it's obviously not vt, and it's not pr because pr's wouldn't be super-paranoid this late in the game when claiming is a viable tool for deflecting attention martin liked a post of all things tho i feel like he did that possibly by accident but then got called out by kliff on it fsr he didnt seem worried at all and then made like 2 posts that just said hi or sum shit weird slot, but i can see him as scum a pathological lurker isn't going to suddenly pop up and say "hi" without good reason not sure what your point is when i said im gonna die i did not mean in game or any shit like that, i meant like metaphorically im gonna die bc i would be so pissed off/surprised
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Post by mymemoryisbad on Jul 17, 2022 14:32:55 GMT
since discussion is a necessary thing here, though mymemoryisbad i want you to recount your reasons for voting both sylv and chaos d1, and why you decided to vote chaos instead of sylv at the end i posted plenty of stuff during the time i was voting sylv d1, you can probably find stuff there. quick summary of what i remember is that their reactions were p shit, the wording and tone they used were just awful, they kept on trying to defuse situations by bringing up smthn like fish, like they had so many posts i just disliked. also i didnt vote chaos d1, or at least idt i did, pretty sure i voted him d2 i went into d2 going to vote sylv but then they became an uncced role cop and that made me unvote also you were on chaos as well, so once again, you probably could have found sumn. quick summary for chaos: seemed to put in no effort, lazy ass reads, just didnt explain anything at all, and fsr they seemed to take a lot of stuff personally
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Post by mymemoryisbad on Jul 17, 2022 14:35:14 GMT
kliff what're your feelings between voting martin and shadow? do you have any information on one or the other to make you more inclined to vote for one or the other? They Both can Die I probably go with shadow today Vote Shadoweavile
why switch from martin to shadow? you seemed perfectly content for doing martin of all lurkers, and then he seemed like an even better vote when he randomly liked micros post and has posted "hi" or "gm" like twice.. like what made you change your preference to shadow
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Post by mymemoryisbad on Jul 17, 2022 14:43:28 GMT
Kinda wanna sus snapa a little more now ngl if they don’t stop using the summarizing excuse to be potato town I don't wanna sus them out, I just want them to stop fangirling over OM and say something of merit today. They've not only been asked to elaborate their read on cyan, but now they're being sussed by you and kliff. Where are you ohsnapa ?? this post rubs me wrong... i like theres a difference between tring somebody and then just never wanting them to be sussed... like "I don't wanna sus them out, I just want them to stop fangirling over OM. . ." sounds like you hate the fact that theyre getting sussed and trying to put up an excuse for it. then you literally give reasoning as to why people should sus them or at the very least question them. my trs on both zach and snapa are going down a bit
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Post by mymemoryisbad on Jul 17, 2022 14:46:56 GMT
unvote cyan, vote spore i think the case against spore is stronger and a little more developed than the case on cyan. while i'm not a super big fan of the way that cyan responded, we have more time to talk about it. also snapa is being dumb and not active so i feel as though the push on cyan isn't as strong as it could be i'm still of the belief that 1 (at this point probably 2) people on the chaos vote are scum and spore has had the weakest reasoning for voting chaos out out of the three. things get weird if i'm wrong and spore flips town "also snapa is being dumb and not active so i feel as though the push on cyan isn't as strong as it could be" ok so snapa did start the cyan wagon/votes iirc, but that line makes it feel like you need his input on whether or not to vote cyan?? like persuading exists i get it but you made it seem like snapas case was the crucial point in you deciding whether you should vote cyan or not
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Post by mymemoryisbad on Jul 17, 2022 14:50:57 GMT
and snapa has had a massive activity drop, however i understand that people have lives, and he may be busy or not feeling well or something of that. but before he just kinda left his posts were a bit mid and people already sled/sred him
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Post by zachattack01 on Jul 17, 2022 14:51:46 GMT
I don't wanna sus them out, I just want them to stop fangirling over OM and say something of merit today. They've not only been asked to elaborate their read on cyan, but now they're being sussed by you and kliff. Where are you ohsnapa ?? this post rubs me wrong... i like theres a difference between tring somebody and then just never wanting them to be sussed... like "I don't wanna sus them out, I just want them to stop fangirling over OM. . ." sounds like you hate the fact that theyre getting sussed and trying to put up an excuse for it. then you literally give reasoning as to why people should sus them or at the very least question them. my trs on both zach and snapa are going down a bit i wasn't sussing them out at all. I was frustrated because some of my case on cyan relied on snap's reads from d2/3. Instead of helping town come together and vote someone out, they instead just decide to be like omg OM is here uwu and other cringe shit that wasn't actually helping the game. i wanted to try and turn my frustration into pressure to try and get snap to talk. it worked cause snap quoted some of the post he made about cyan later on
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Post by cyan on Jul 17, 2022 14:53:32 GMT
when i said im gonna die i did not mean in game or any shit like that, i meant like metaphorically im gonna die bc i would be so pissed off/surprised please never use "i'm gonna die" in mafia chat ever again since discussion is a necessary thing here, though mymemoryisbad i want you to recount your reasons for voting both sylv and chaos d1, and why you decided to vote chaos instead of sylv at the end i posted plenty of stuff during the time i was voting sylv d1, you can probably find stuff there. quick summary of what i remember is that their reactions were p shit, the wording and tone they used were just awful, they kept on trying to defuse situations by bringing up smthn like fish, like they had so many posts i just disliked. also i didnt vote chaos d1, or at least idt i did, pretty sure i voted him d2 i went into d2 going to vote sylv but then they became an uncced role cop and that made me unvote also you were on chaos as well, so once again, you probably could have found sumn. quick summary for chaos: seemed to put in no effort, lazy ass reads, just didnt explain anything at all, and fsr they seemed to take a lot of stuff personally so first of all, you absolutely did vote chaos d1. unvote sylveon vote chaos bolding here is bullshit + mb on boldfailing like 3 times my bad for not being specific; what made you feel like chaos was worth shifting to here? shifting entails tossing aside the read you had on sylv that you were pursuing the whole day, and even if i also agreed with your read on chaos, sylv flipping red means you shifting off him in d1 is suspicious in retrospect. it strikes me as odd that you were willing to pursue a slot with "no effort, lazy ass reads, just didn't explain anything at all" over "reactions were p shit, the wording and tone they used were just awful, they kept on trying to defuse situations" i'd think the latter qualifies more as potential scumplay over the former, especially because it's common knowledge that low-effort town is a thing that exists They Both can Die I probably go with shadow today Vote Shadoweavile
why switch from martin to shadow? you seemed perfectly content for doing martin of all lurkers, and then he seemed like an even better vote when he randomly liked micros post and has posted "hi" or "gm" like twice.. like what made you change your preference to shadow zach made an entire case on why a shadow vote would be favourable over a martin vote, and you popping in to slam kliff for abandoning one lurker read for another without acknowledging that tells me you're either a big fan of shadoweavile or a big hater of martinvtran.
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Post by zachattack01 on Jul 17, 2022 14:57:31 GMT
why are like half of cyans responses to cases against him just "yeah thats true"?? if you think they're responses are half ass, which is a common sentiment against people that are against cyan, then why not vote for them? there are multiple cases stacked against them and multiple people have voted for them already today? what's your reason to not vote for them? dude, mmib, can you answer this instead of just saying a whole lotta nothing or being lazy
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Post by zachattack01 on Jul 17, 2022 14:58:54 GMT
yeah i'm kinda tired of this nonsense. unvote cyan vote mmib
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Post by cyan on Jul 17, 2022 15:01:21 GMT
unvote cyan, vote spore i think the case against spore is stronger and a little more developed than the case on cyan. while i'm not a super big fan of the way that cyan responded, we have more time to talk about it. also snapa is being dumb and not active so i feel as though the push on cyan isn't as strong as it could be i'm still of the belief that 1 (at this point probably 2) people on the chaos vote are scum and spore has had the weakest reasoning for voting chaos out out of the three. things get weird if i'm wrong and spore flips town "also snapa is being dumb and not active so i feel as though the push on cyan isn't as strong as it could be" ok so snapa did start the cyan wagon/votes iirc, but that line makes it feel like you need his input on whether or not to vote cyan?? like persuading exists i get it but you made it seem like snapas case was the crucial point in you deciding whether you should vote cyan or not well, yes? if a wagon you were leading consists of supporters that look scummy that is usually a bad sign? this post rubs me wrong... i like theres a difference between tring somebody and then just never wanting them to be sussed... like "I don't wanna sus them out, I just want them to stop fangirling over OM. . ." sounds like you hate the fact that theyre getting sussed and trying to put up an excuse for it. then you literally give reasoning as to why people should sus them or at the very least question them. my trs on both zach and snapa are going down a bit i wasn't sussing them out at all. I was frustrated because some of my case on cyan relied on snap's reads from d2/3. Instead of helping town come together and vote someone out, they instead just decide to be like omg OM is here uwu and other cringe shit that wasn't actually helping the game. i wanted to try and turn my frustration into pressure to try and get snap to talk. it worked cause snap quoted some of the post he made about cyan later on i want to push the snap angle a little more here, especially because making a case on someone and dropping it cold turkey is anti-play (i.e. it doesn't help snap regardless of alignment) it could very well be a case of lost motivation but that tone would clash with the entire "OM is here omg" spiel but i'm going to deathtunnel mmib here because the immediate jump onto losing trust in zach and snapa comes off as more like an attempted misportrayal than a genuine read on zach's tone. the mini-case, in its entirety, is "zach feels conflicted about their townread's play quality taking a nosedive, but doesn't want to get rid of the townread, and that means zach and snap are partners" i think that's mental gymnastics
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Post by cyan on Jul 17, 2022 15:02:44 GMT
every answer i get from mmib just raises more questions at this point
Unvote martinvtran, vote mymemoryisbad
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Post by OM~! on Jul 17, 2022 21:35:57 GMT
[playing dnd right now, consider this a read receipt]
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Post by dewfew on Jul 17, 2022 23:23:16 GMT
reads
Zach: despite the crappy shift you still come off as town trying your hardest. it being so late definitely hurts you a bit but the case on spore was similarly developed and so I can’t definitively it was a sheep or saving cyan or anything
Cyan: still scummy to me but has gotten slightly more null, they did something which I would never expect scum to do and that is sacrifice. at first I thought it was goon ranking for rber but with spore town flip I’m beginning to think there is a (very) small chance cyan may not be scum. overall still somewhat scummy to me
OM: look man I’m sorry for the bad read but I just am so lost now with spore flip and cyan acting uncharacteristically unselfish, no that’s not the right word, like not edgy. You’re towny but nullish, been contributing some decent stuff so I like that
Ohsnapa: you disappeared faster than the father of a genshin impact player and you haven’t done anything since describing your day one lunacy. need to see more from you else I might start reading you as scum because apparently scum likes dropping off the face of the earth once they’re scum read in this game
Mmib: you are my bestest homie but your inadequate answers have made u look bad. I would like an updated readwall from you and am still willing to potentially hear you out tomorrow…i still think a shadow vote is better for now because that slot has shown the signature scumtell of literally disappearing after saying one thing (I kid, but still).
Shadow: opinions remain the same on you, but now you’re more my primary sr so I’ll vote you today vote shadow weavile
my thoughts on the cyan v mmib thing happening rn is that it’s one scum vs a town, currently still leaning towards cyan as the baddie for previously stated reasons and their complete 180 flip from townreading mmib to death scum tunneling them. not sure if they’ve fully explained what made them tr in the first place yet but ig I’ll go back and try to find something
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Post by dewfew on Jul 17, 2022 23:29:35 GMT
oh I forgot about Kliff
Kliff has good intentions and I town read them more especially with their cases. after that you kind of fell off tho and posted much less analysis. I want to see a little more consistency from you in terms of scumhunting. Why do you want a shadow vote now compared to Martin?
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Post by OM~! on Jul 18, 2022 0:13:43 GMT
Hm
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Post by OM~! on Jul 18, 2022 0:14:18 GMT
Mafia are the only active people aren't they
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Post by OM~! on Jul 18, 2022 0:15:41 GMT
mymemoryisbad I'm going to echo dewfew here for a reads drop I think the cyan/dewfew/zach block is weird atm
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Post by ohsnapa on Jul 18, 2022 0:32:11 GMT
im back fuckers
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