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Post by kliff on Jul 18, 2022 1:39:13 GMT
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Post by zachattack01 on Jul 18, 2022 1:40:19 GMT
I don’t think I’ll have any more opportunities to talk tonight so imma just vote cyan
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Post by zachattack01 on Jul 18, 2022 1:43:08 GMT
Sorry. I’ve been very indecisive about today
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Post by ohsnapa on Jul 18, 2022 1:44:37 GMT
also i'mma call out snap for their hyperfocus on om also also snap please tell me what you think of mmib? does their shift off of sylv late in d1 not raise questions for you? also also also none of these questions are going to go through because i think snap is just dead set on getting me out and nothing i do will change that wdym hyperfocus on om what, i have never been hyperfocused on om, my observation on om is literally basic enough where everyone can make it "also also snap please tell me what you think of mmib? does their shift off of sylv late in d1 not raise questions for you?"
give me the full context here, if someone were to shift onto someone else it shouldnt be completely random, there has to be context like for example, did mmib shift off of sylveon day 1 when they were going to die, without even showing signs that they sr someone else?
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Post by mymemoryisbad on Jul 18, 2022 1:46:02 GMT
when i said im gonna die i did not mean in game or any shit like that, i meant like metaphorically im gonna die bc i would be so pissed off/surprised please never use "i'm gonna die" in mafia chat ever again i posted plenty of stuff during the time i was voting sylv d1, you can probably find stuff there. quick summary of what i remember is that their reactions were p shit, the wording and tone they used were just awful, they kept on trying to defuse situations by bringing up smthn like fish, like they had so many posts i just disliked. also i didnt vote chaos d1, or at least idt i did, pretty sure i voted him d2 i went into d2 going to vote sylv but then they became an uncced role cop and that made me unvote also you were on chaos as well, so once again, you probably could have found sumn. quick summary for chaos: seemed to put in no effort, lazy ass reads, just didnt explain anything at all, and fsr they seemed to take a lot of stuff personally so first of all, you absolutely did vote chaos d1. unvote sylveon vote chaos bolding here is bullshit + mb on boldfailing like 3 times my bad for not being specific; what made you feel like chaos was worth shifting to here? shifting entails tossing aside the read you had on sylv that you were pursuing the whole day, and even if i also agreed with your read on chaos, sylv flipping red means you shifting off him in d1 is suspicious in retrospect. it strikes me as odd that you were willing to pursue a slot with "no effort, lazy ass reads, just didn't explain anything at all" over "reactions were p shit, the wording and tone they used were just awful, they kept on trying to defuse situations" i'd think the latter qualifies more as potential scumplay over the former, especially because it's common knowledge that low-effort town is a thing that exists why switch from martin to shadow? you seemed perfectly content for doing martin of all lurkers, and then he seemed like an even better vote when he randomly liked micros post and has posted "hi" or "gm" like twice.. like what made you change your preference to shadow zach made an entire case on why a shadow vote would be favourable over a martin vote, and you popping in to slam kliff for abandoning one lurker read for another without acknowledging that tells me you're either a big fan of shadoweavile or a big hater of martinvtran. if i did it d1 it was probably some sorta rvs / lurker pressure, also all my reads/reasons on chaos were for the d2 vote probably missed the post where zach said that but kliff explained it regardless. also "popping in to slam kliff" is some exaggerated word use. by no means was i being gentle when i said that to kliff, but its not like i was tryna grill him until he cracked
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Post by kliff on Jul 18, 2022 1:46:04 GMT
This seems pretty ignorant of you but, I guess your basically saying "if you now a town read then you can die"? have you read the part where i said CYAN HAS BEEN BLOCKING THE WAY HOW THIS GAME IS FLOWING, and also to the point where I THINK SHADOW SHOULD BE KEPT ALIVE FOR POTENTIAL SUB OK I mean if Cyan & Shadow are town Then I think Town definitely deserve to lose So, I'm ok with either one
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Post by mymemoryisbad on Jul 18, 2022 1:49:09 GMT
also i'mma call out snap for their hyperfocus on om also also snap please tell me what you think of mmib? does their shift off of sylv late in d1 not raise questions for you? also also also none of these questions are going to go through because i think snap is just dead set on getting me out and nothing i do will change that wdym hyperfocus on om what, i have never been hyperfocused on om, my observation on om is literally basic enough where everyone can make it "also also snap please tell me what you think of mmib? does their shift off of sylv late in d1 not raise questions for you?"
give me the full context here, if someone were to shift onto someone else it shouldnt be completely random, there has to be context like for example, did mmib shift off of sylveon day 1 when they were going to die, without even showing signs that they sr someone else?
so snapa is bad for hyperfocusing on om or whatever but you literally stated you were gonna deathtunnel me and theres nothing wrong with that
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Post by ohsnapa on Jul 18, 2022 1:49:50 GMT
if cyan flips town here it will be most revolutionary for town, but if they flip scum then we proceed with voting / forcing the two remaining afks to remain afk
if cyan flips scum here then we can expect mmib to be most likely be townie, we didnt really see a hard bus from cyan didnt we?
do we expect the same from cyan and mmib
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Post by ohsnapa on Jul 18, 2022 1:50:29 GMT
if cyan flips town here it will be most revolutionary for town, but if they flip scum then we proceed with voting / forcing the two remaining afks to remain afk if cyan flips scum here then we can expect mmib to be most likely be townie, we didnt really see a hard bus from cyan didnt we? do we expect the same from cyan and mmib hard bus is me referring to cyan voting sylveon btw
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Post by mymemoryisbad on Jul 18, 2022 1:52:44 GMT
"also snapa is being dumb and not active so i feel as though the push on cyan isn't as strong as it could be" ok so snapa did start the cyan wagon/votes iirc, but that line makes it feel like you need his input on whether or not to vote cyan?? like persuading exists i get it but you made it seem like snapas case was the crucial point in you deciding whether you should vote cyan or not well, yes? if a wagon you were leading consists of supporters that look scummy that is usually a bad sign? i wasn't sussing them out at all. I was frustrated because some of my case on cyan relied on snap's reads from d2/3. Instead of helping town come together and vote someone out, they instead just decide to be like omg OM is here uwu and other cringe shit that wasn't actually helping the game. i wanted to try and turn my frustration into pressure to try and get snap to talk. it worked cause snap quoted some of the post he made about cyan later on i want to push the snap angle a little more here, especially because making a case on someone and dropping it cold turkey is anti-play (i.e. it doesn't help snap regardless of alignment) it could very well be a case of lost motivation but that tone would clash with the entire "OM is here omg" spiel but i'm going to deathtunnel mmib here because the immediate jump onto losing trust in zach and snapa comes off as more like an attempted misportrayal than a genuine read on zach's tone. the mini-case, in its entirety, is "zach feels conflicted about their townread's play quality taking a nosedive, but doesn't want to get rid of the townread, and that means zach and snap are partners" i think that's mental gymnastics when did i say that zach and snapa were partners tho? also this is the part where you said you were gonna deathtunnel me
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Post by ohsnapa on Jul 18, 2022 1:53:06 GMT
i mean mmib and cyan really conversed on pages 39-40, if that's just scum with scum publicly talking to each other i dont really see the fucking point
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Post by OM~! on Jul 18, 2022 1:53:58 GMT
We don't have too much time I think, cyan why shouldn't I vote you off here I'm like super tired of you not defending yourself
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Post by OM~! on Jul 18, 2022 1:54:40 GMT
Going to outright place a fos on dewfew as well
if roleblocker thinks the vote is going in the wrong place I implore them to help change that zzz
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Post by mymemoryisbad on Jul 18, 2022 1:57:01 GMT
also thoughts on a shadow vote are: honestly yeah they deserve to die the way they said smthn and just left, but i feel like if they survive the night we just get them tomorrow as that means theyve been idling / actioning
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Post by OM~! on Jul 18, 2022 1:57:10 GMT
Going to outright place a fos on dewfew as well if roleblocker thinks the vote is going in the wrong place I implore them to help change that zzz I think my main problem with the midday is just how weird the cyan interactions have been zach / dewfew have gone from heavily casing and sring them to being very indecisive about voting them I would not be surprised whatsoever if the final 3 scum are literally those three at the moment
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Post by OM~! on Jul 18, 2022 1:58:02 GMT
It's such a weird maneuver from the slots that I'd be beyond shocked if all 3 turned out to be town I think
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Post by OM~! on Jul 18, 2022 1:58:22 GMT
(and as my votes has shown, I'm cyan > dew > zach on it)
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Post by zachattack01 on Jul 18, 2022 2:00:23 GMT
It's such a weird maneuver from the slots that I'd be beyond shocked if all 3 turned out to be town I think The only reason I’ve been indecisive is because of cyan’s case against mmib and shadow still being a great vote. I’m sticking with my initial impression of voting cyan. Shadow’s next tho. No doubt in that
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Post by OM~! on Jul 18, 2022 2:02:55 GMT
It's such a weird maneuver from the slots that I'd be beyond shocked if all 3 turned out to be town I think The only reason I’ve been indecisive is because of cyan’s case against mmib and shadow still being a great vote. I’m sticking with my initial impression of voting cyan. Shadow’s next tho. No doubt in that mmm I still think it's weird play from all ends - do you mind running me through why mmib is so scummy?
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Post by mymemoryisbad on Jul 18, 2022 2:10:05 GMT
vote shadow they made one post and they have to had been doing smthn to be subbed by now, like they have had no signs of life
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Post by zachattack01 on Jul 18, 2022 2:11:43 GMT
The only reason I’ve been indecisive is because of cyan’s case against mmib and shadow still being a great vote. I’m sticking with my initial impression of voting cyan. Shadow’s next tho. No doubt in that mmm I still think it's weird play from all ends - do you mind running me through why mmib is so scummy? I can’t go super in depth cause I’m not home but it goes back to their weird (at least I found weird) interactions between mmib and sylv and then mmib and chaos. They’ve also been kinda lazy in their reads and weird in their pushes. Everything they’ve said since the d1 interactions has kinda raised a weird bell in my head, especially what they’ve started saying today, hence the multiple wall posts I’ve made on them since d1. After re-reading stuff and thinking back, I like my case against cyan more than my case against mmib. I’m still convinced that they’re s v t
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Post by mymemoryisbad on Jul 18, 2022 2:11:59 GMT
vote shadow they made one post and they have to had been doing smthn to be subbed by now, like they have had no signs of life to not be*
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Post by OM~! on Jul 18, 2022 2:14:07 GMT
wack countervote from mmib
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Post by mymemoryisbad on Jul 18, 2022 2:14:59 GMT
wack countervote from mmib who am i countering doe
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Post by kliff on Jul 18, 2022 2:15:52 GMT
vote shadow they made one post and they have to had been doing smthn to be subbed by now, like they have had no signs of life Real quick What is your read on Cyan?
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