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Post by bubidajeffery on Jul 29, 2022 0:07:25 GMT
oh hello again
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Post by bubidajeffery on Jul 29, 2022 0:07:49 GMT
vote mighty cannon
he is always scum so its safe vote
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Post by mightycannon on Jul 29, 2022 0:15:49 GMT
Sigh its xdrudi vs erry I am not getting a cyan talon vote here,I wanna vote erry but xdrudi should claim first kek |
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Post by mightycannon on Jul 29, 2022 0:20:42 GMT
Now that i think about
Xdrudi is probably scum from wagonomics stuff rather than actual slips/votes.
Erry is a weird slot that requires me to further read into the more I read the more shitposty and towny slot becomes
But Idk I feel like both could be town but xdrudi now gives me less town vibes
Honestly not sure right now gonna wait to see what happens
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Post by dkkoba on Jul 29, 2022 0:28:35 GMT
First off, I wasnt justifying the vote, I was justifying my action. 2nd the reason we voted Martin was that he simply didnt contributed anything for the game. For some reason that is wrong. Now I'm being voted for not contributing anything to the game? While at the same time I'm being voted for me being too serious about a vote? Anyways lets get to my Impression of the game about the people I already have a read on. dkkoba has provided a lot so far but never seems to really know who to vote which seems a bit scummy because it feels like they dont want to have a bad relation with anyone. But otherway they just seem to be trying to make progress. erry contributed nothing to d1 except coming online 1h before deadline and just jumping on the rolling train. For d2 they tried to understand the logic behind kills which from my perspective is just pointless. also they are concerned about me, but are thinking about changing their vote to the most voted? Erry seems like someone who definetly wants to shoot someone. Also they are lurking a lot but who am I to judge. Pkq is also trying to understand the logic behind kills, but it seemed more logical however, as I already said, I cant relate to any of those theories since I dont know any of your strategies. mightycannon was actively trying to get discussions (answers with Short Response time) which I think is townie, I think that discussions just have a higher hance for scums to "Slip" so I think they are trying to make honest progress and I am reading them as town. mmib's posts seem pretty townie from my perspective, but there was one post that sounded pretty scummy (dunno how to quote on mobile so I'll just copy it) "ight im here and ngl fort was defo fearkilled. unfortunate that he was cop asw, also thanks martin for not saying anything so we ended up voting our seer" this just seems scum especially the last line, it looks like he is trying to emphasize with town and trying to create content without creating content About John , I really want to know what is scummy about not voting d1. Also, I get it that you were reading martin as a new player, but If you dont defend yourself at all then its just your own fault If you die. Also I dont expected them to claim their role or anything, I expected them to do anything. Altough John just seems frustrated about the Martin vote and since Martin was Seer I am currently reading them as town. I am reading Cyan Talon as either aggressive Town or very aggressive Scum here, I cant Tell how they normally play. I will trust the other people in the game on how to approach this one. I have no real reads on the other ppl however all of them seemed more town than scum. idt anyone after this post should see drudi as scummy, as the main reason they were reading them as scummy was purely for lack of activity.
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Post by dkkoba on Jul 29, 2022 0:28:58 GMT
I feel like people forget easily why they scumread someone and don't notice when that reason gets broken and they need to reevaluate lol
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Post by mightycannon on Jul 29, 2022 0:31:10 GMT
Honestly this was such a jump read , read both these guy's posts and I feel like erry has a higher chance of flipping now One of Erry's posts the  post gives fake energy (yes I changed my read thrice stfu)(also watch this be doctor or sumthing) +they voted xdrudi the entire game which is kinda weird my man made reads so he can justify his votes? Vote erry |
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Post by mightycannon on Jul 29, 2022 0:32:53 GMT
I feel like people forget easily why they scumread someone and don't notice when that reason gets broken and they need to reevaluate lol yea happens sometimes I forgot which pkq posts I was talking about but I knew there were those 2 PKQ posts that made me suspicious of him somewhere out there but upon rereading I feel like those reads are more invalid now |
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Post by mymemoryisbad on Jul 29, 2022 0:36:18 GMT
I feel like people forget easily why they scumread someone and don't notice when that reason gets broken and they need to reevaluate lol agree with this, tbh the reasoning on om was pretty weak yet a bunch of people voted them. and if its between erry/xdrudi i think id rather have erry gone considering xdrudi is being more active than them and has put up some reads |
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Post by mightycannon on Jul 29, 2022 0:36:26 GMT
First off, I wasnt justifying the vote, I was justifying my action. 2nd the reason we voted Martin was that he simply didnt contributed anything for the game. For some reason that is wrong. Now I'm being voted for not contributing anything to the game? While at the same time I'm being voted for me being too serious about a vote? Anyways lets get to my Impression of the game about the people I already have a read on. dkkoba has provided a lot so far but never seems to really know who to vote which seems a bit scummy because it feels like they dont want to have a bad relation with anyone. But otherway they just seem to be trying to make progress. erry contributed nothing to d1 except coming online 1h before deadline and just jumping on the rolling train. For d2 they tried to understand the logic behind kills which from my perspective is just pointless. also they are concerned about me, but are thinking about changing their vote to the most voted? Erry seems like someone who definetly wants to shoot someone. Also they are lurking a lot but who am I to judge. Pkq is also trying to understand the logic behind kills, but it seemed more logical however, as I already said, I cant relate to any of those theories since I dont know any of your strategies. mightycannon was actively trying to get discussions (answers with Short Response time) which I think is townie, I think that discussions just have a higher hance for scums to "Slip" so I think they are trying to make honest progress and I am reading them as town. mmib's posts seem pretty townie from my perspective, but there was one post that sounded pretty scummy (dunno how to quote on mobile so I'll just copy it) "ight im here and ngl fort was defo fearkilled. unfortunate that he was cop asw, also thanks martin for not saying anything so we ended up voting our seer" this just seems scum especially the last line, it looks like he is trying to emphasize with town and trying to create content without creating content About John , I really want to know what is scummy about not voting d1. Also, I get it that you were reading martin as a new player, but If you dont defend yourself at all then its just your own fault If you die. Also I dont expected them to claim their role or anything, I expected them to do anything. Altough John just seems frustrated about the Martin vote and since Martin was Seer I am currently reading them as town. I am reading Cyan Talon as either aggressive Town or very aggressive Scum here, I cant Tell how they normally play. I will trust the other people in the game on how to approach this one. I have no real reads on the other ppl however all of them seemed more town than scum. idt anyone after this post should see drudi as scummy, as the main reason they were reading them as scummy was purely for lack of activity.
Xdrudi is mostly a vibe read someone please shift to erry and drudi claim pls I wont be on for long |
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Post by mymemoryisbad on Jul 29, 2022 0:38:47 GMT
Honestly this was such a jump read , read both these guy's posts and I feel like erry has a higher chance of flipping now One of Erry's posts the post gives fake energy (yes I changed my read thrice stfu)(also watch this be doctor or sumthing) +they voted xdrudi the entire game which is kinda weird my man made reads so he can justify his votes? Vote erry also ik u acknowledged this but hey at least ur changing earlier rather than developing a case one somebody and then deciding 3 hours later "nah this aint worth it". still feel like mightys playstyle is scummy but i honestly dont see it going anywhere. |
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Post by mightycannon on Jul 29, 2022 0:38:48 GMT
I feel like people forget easily why they scumread someone and don't notice when that reason gets broken and they need to reevaluate lol agree with this, tbh the reasoning on om was pretty weak yet a bunch of people voted them. and if its between erry/xdrudi i think id rather have erry gone considering xdrudi is being more active than them and has put up some reads Erry put up some reads aswell honestly if you want to consider a vote here highly recommend reading the total of 10 POSTS from xdrudi and erry combines from their iso's (to check one go on their pfp and click recent posts btw) |
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Post by mymemoryisbad on Jul 29, 2022 0:41:38 GMT
unvote mighty vote erry xdrudi doesnt need to be the vote here. feel like a lot of the pressure on them hasnt been that strong of evidence tbh, just like "this tone gives this" or like wagonomics. i havent gotten a super scummy feeling from their posts and considering erry really said "i dont agree with the vote but whatever" (paraphrase) and voted martin d1 then dipped, i feel like they might be a better choice. however xdrudi please claim while we have these ~2 hours.
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Post by OM~! on Jul 29, 2022 0:44:02 GMT
Hello! I have remembered to be here now!
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Post by OM~! on Jul 29, 2022 0:45:15 GMT
could we get a votecount in ~15 minutes?
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Post by cyan on Jul 29, 2022 0:46:03 GMT
explain this in depth to me Alright time for the post I have been willing to make so I can explain my ct read So basically my main reason is them being very passive they havent really pushed most of their reads and have instead focused on commenting other people's posts and not pushing their own reads* their stance to the game is too passive for me plus there have been multiple instances of them just Buddying slots like fort Another incident which pushed me to vote them here is are we going to just ignore the entirety of me pushing for an xdrudi vote today? more on that later, though
it feels awkward for mighty to just pull up with the "cyan has been buddying fort" especially when that was originally what i suggested they might be doing as a throwaway possibility. like dude literally addresses this in the paragraph right after1. Cyan talon d1 was pretty weird because when I just said good strategy to fort d1 I was accused of pocketing them and I felt like ok this discussion could probably give me info on cyan talon +increase discussion by introducing a debate and push the game from the then apparent lurker era then again i can't fault someone for trying to start an angle of discussion, but the framing of this post just sounds more hostile than genuineSo I continued to defend and attack their weak reads Then fort just told them to end discussion and they agreed its not like he was being forced by fort who just one random line in one of the 6 different lines or their post (or 5 maybe) and I didn't think cyan talon would just back down but he actually didn't he still scum read which felt weird "i didn't think cyan would stop a discussion, and he didn't" is not suspect playWhy would cyan talon just stop a discussion with their scumread instead of attacking their scumread and pointing out their flaws there and then and get more info I think a town at that moment would do the same because you suck at reading through my veiled insults
Good strategy I dont see why people are voting pkq when they are about to go afk Vote cyan talon"good strategy" like no offense to fort but that's literally just an argument in favour of hypoing plus a mini-guide on how to do it you're either pocketing or not thinking super hard and you're a little lucky that my impression of you favours the latter possibility by a long stretch* - I do this too but like I try to push my current votes for example my previous vote on you was so that I could get some pressure on you so there could be more activity from your part ,your vote probably worked as a breeding ground for scum aswell I think the people staying on you who will not shift by eod will become more prominent scum leans for me Vote cyan talon oh, the hypocrisy but more importantly i'm kind of bothered by how seriously mc is taking this like sure, it's my fault for being a dick, but this scumcase against me feels like a massive exercise in defensive play, not offensive; that's now how scumreads work, generally |
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Post by mymemoryisbad on Jul 29, 2022 0:46:32 GMT
i know i said i wanted to talk about what erry said more, but the more those reads settle into me, the more i like them and more i think erry is towny. the xdrudi slot has been super lazy thus far and the mmib slot is doing weird things like they did in game 2. not gonna lose brain cells like i did with mmib in d1 tho. vote xdrudi FOR NOW. ok "not gonna lose brain cells like i did with mmib in d1 tho." zach throwing mad shade |
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Post by mymemoryisbad on Jul 29, 2022 0:49:33 GMT
quick nka attempt tells me that ddlcfan69 was killed because they were against the martin wagon and pushed pkq in its place puts some pressure on pkq especially since someone who would've counterwagoned them in d1 would also probably be wagoning them d2 it's blatant enough that pkq being framed is worth considering, but nonetheless i think we should expect scum to be trying to remove pressure from that slot given the rather low-radar nature of the kill Also I want to give my thoughts on what could have been scum game plan with these nightkills after looking at day 1 again. I could be wrong I think both fraction had different game plan on approaching day 2. One fraction wanted to kill the most productive town player in the game to hinder town chances of success while the other one wants everybody focus on a certain player. With this is mind I won't be surprised if Cyan Talon and Dkkoba are targeted for night 2 kills. Looking through these lens who benefits from strong town players being gone knowing they can take over at any reasonable time. This leads me to believe that one of the scum player is OM. In my theory he fits perfectly in this category. Now the second one has a bigger pool but in falls in the line of (John, xdrudi, bubida, zach, and erry). I believe at least one of these people especially the one watching the deadline on day 1 want to keep people off their backs for now because of what they did could be perceive as scummy. At this point though I want to focus my attention on OM if we can, but leaving this not pressure will be bad for town. The NK on Fort made a lot of sense, but I've been really confused about the kill on DDLC, from a scum perspective I feel like Koba would've been a much more obvious kill. I'm starting to think that that was part of the reasoning behind the DDLC kill though. The best scenario for scum would be to hit as many town as possible, with two factions in this they have the potential to get two kills per night, however, if both factions shot the same slot then obviously it wouldn't be optimal for them. Because of this I believe one faction went with a fairly direct kill, being Fort, and the other went with a much less obvious kill so that they wouldn't end up doubling up in shooting major slots like Koba or Fort. Reading back through DDLC's iso, over half of their posts were just jokes and when they did finally hop on PKQ they didn't provide any reasoning to back it up really. Despite this DDLC is a usually a very good player from my experience with them, so it would make sense why scum would want to through out a slot that's both low radar, due to my previously explained reasoning, but also has the potential to be a threat to them. Its because of this that I honestly don't think PKQ is related whatsoever to the DDLC's death here, its more like PKQ was in the wrong place at the wrong time. That's not to say PKQ isn't scum, not by any means, but it is to say that pushing them over DDLC's death here is a lazy line of logic imo when there's so many more angles you could view that death from and so much more information you could likely get out of it because of that. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- While I'm here I'm also gonna post my town reads and scum reads: Town: DkKoba - I'm gonna be honest, I really hate how they play, but they also seem the most genuine player by far of anyone in this game Cyan - They don't feel like they're playing how they did as scum in NOC Game 2, they feel less like they're trying to look towny and more like they're just playing the game here PKQ - I am going to townread this for the time being, this could flip on a dime so its by far the least solid of my townreads, but with how they feel very towny to me with how well they've handled pressure to day and given post above I don't believe they're all that scummy for the reasons people have been pushing anyway Scum: mmib - This slot feels so bland, its like they're trying so hard to look towny but not actually doing anything, I'd love to see a lot more from this slot and can honestly see them becoming a townread later, but I can't in good conscious do that until I see results xdrudi - This slot has a total of four posts, including one where they lazily jumped on the Martin vote midday and proceeded to add nothing to the vote or other votes for that matter. Also reading through their posts, albeit limited, they feel like the kind of careful player that would be more than all for the kind of scum kill like the one I explained could've happened with DDLC. Vote xdrudisee the problem with the xdrudi sr is that erry has done almost the same thing as xdrdu. erry jumped on martin eod for circuit points, like kinda ironic that you vote somebody for that. and the other part of the read contains the key words "they feel". they feel like the type of player to be careful, thats just a gut feeling, not any actual evidence. i really dont like how erry is voting somebody for their read on them to be half feeling and the other half smthn theyre doing asw. |
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Post by dkkoba on Jul 29, 2022 0:52:05 GMT
im not feeling as good on mmib being town now, did anyone else get pinged by them earlier? i want to talk about them now.
mmib feels v weird and i cant put my finger on it.
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Post by mymemoryisbad on Jul 29, 2022 0:53:19 GMT
im not feeling as good on mmib being town now, did anyone else get pinged by them earlier? i want to talk about them now. mmib feels v weird and i cant put my finger on it. i havent pinged anybody as i dont know how to |
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Post by mightycannon on Jul 29, 2022 0:53:45 GMT
im not feeling as good on mmib being town now, did anyone else get pinged by them earlier? i want to talk about them now. mmib feels v weird and i cant put my finger on it. Yea same thing lol |
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Post by cyan on Jul 29, 2022 0:57:05 GMT
1) My post probably is, but my ego made me to one of the best player in mafia so aye 2) Yes I wanted to pressure on lunar to see what happens and then I wanted to go on my scum read which is OM here's the issue with this; you never made it super clear that you had a scumread on OM. that's all in the past, though3) First its day 2, second if I think he is scum why not vote him??, third I don't blame town for coming at low activity town, fourth I am not jumping on a wagon. I just have my thoughts and I will follow those thoughts accordingly. Also when anyone gets a vote I am assume is pressure. 4) My argument for OM is that he gradually takes con trol of town while taking out the town leaders and I argue a lot of things about n1 kills but they will get us nowhere hence I am giving out MY logical conclusion.
and you have no evidence to back this up. it's not a logical conclusion, it's circular reasoning; OM killed Fort because he's scum wanting to take over, OM wants to take over because he's scum. you've presented to us the optimal plan for scum!OM to take, but you've done nothing to tell us how it proves that OM is in any dimension more scummy than anyone else.
you could've at least gone into depth about OM's lack of engagement with the game up to this point, but nope. the big thing for you was that OM would strongly benefit from the Fort kill; that statement applies to almost everyone else
5) The ddlc kills show how scum is trying to navigate a narrative that he was fearkill. A town player that was basically useless on day 1 (not trying to offend anyone) the only thing they did that was worthwhile was vote mighty in the beginning and later me because he was convince I was scum did not affect anyone else. I am thinking to myself why would scum do that (why would you do that in Stephen A Smith's voice)? Scum must have analyze that one of the best course of action in this game is to make a town player look very scummy.
so framing. ok. you're essentially arguing that scum killed ddlc to frame you; next time, be more direct with your presentation.
it's not even a good frame kill because ddlc wasn't very overt about wanting to kill you. if the goal was to put you in the spotlight, dkkoba would've been a superior choice
competent scum are a rarity these days, so i suppose i can't go too far
6) My conclusion will have more merit once my scum reads are dead.
ugh. eauuuuuuugrh. if this game was a story it'd be on wattpad the gloating about your "superior logic" and "best player in mafia" only serves to make you look like some patrician cunt who drinks kopi luwak every morning even when no one's there to watch you haven't addressed any of my criticisms save for one, and that one response you gave only made you look even more incompetent. |
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Post by dkkoba on Jul 29, 2022 1:00:16 GMT
wait am i not the one getting flamed for having a massive ego?
shit, i need to do better
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Post by OM~! on Jul 29, 2022 1:00:30 GMT
im not feeling as good on mmib being town now, did anyone else get pinged by them earlier? i want to talk about them now. mmib feels v weird and i cant put my finger on it. I'm still pretty sure it's the same mmib from noc1g2 tbh - my main concerns with their playstyle is generally that they have Thoughts but they are not conductive thoughts towards scumhuntings - I can see why you'd get weird vibes but I'm like 90% sure they're just town here |
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Post by OM~! on Jul 29, 2022 1:00:50 GMT
wait am i not the one getting flamed for having a massive ego? shit, i need to do better no actually I quite like you being reasonable please continue to do so |
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post gives fake energy (yes I changed my read thrice stfu)(also watch this be doctor or sumthing)
