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Post by dkkoba on Jul 29, 2022 1:02:01 GMT
agree with this, tbh the reasoning on om was pretty weak yet a bunch of people voted them. and if its between erry/xdrudi i think id rather have erry gone considering xdrudi is being more active than them and has put up some reads Erry put up some reads aswell honestly if you want to consider a vote here highly recommend reading the total of 10 POSTS from xdrudi and erry combines from their iso's (to check one go on their pfp and click recent posts btw) erry's reads felt very uninspiring and bland while drudi's feels like someone who actually read and processed the thread.
granted it is multiball and blah blah blah can scumhunt for other team.
but drudi is someone that feels wholly uninformed in those reads
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Post by dkkoba on Jul 29, 2022 1:03:22 GMT
the more i think about it, the more im sure that PKQ is just a lockscum here, alongside erry.
erry/pkq 100% scum, and then solve for rest off of PoE.
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Post by cyan on Jul 29, 2022 1:04:58 GMT
town om actually solves, this is the haha hee hee jokester om that doesnt do shit that i've played against who ended up as scum. i read NOC1 game 2 and there is a stark contrast to how he approaches the game as town vs scum. "busy" is an excuse. there is a slight hint of asshat in this post, but i do get what it's trying to convey First off, I wasnt justifying the vote, I was justifying my action. 2nd the reason we voted Martin was that he simply didnt contributed anything for the game. For some reason that is wrong. Now I'm being voted for not contributing anything to the game? While at the same time I'm being voted for me being too serious about a vote? Anyways lets get to my Impression of the game about the people I already have a read on. dkkoba has provided a lot so far but never seems to really know who to vote which seems a bit scummy because it feels like they dont want to have a bad relation with anyone. But otherway they just seem to be trying to make progress. erry contributed nothing to d1 except coming online 1h before deadline and just jumping on the rolling train. For d2 they tried to understand the logic behind kills which from my perspective is just pointless. also they are concerned about me, but are thinking about changing their vote to the most voted? Erry seems like someone who definetly wants to shoot someone. Also they are lurking a lot but who am I to judge. Pkq is also trying to understand the logic behind kills, but it seemed more logical however, as I already said, I cant relate to any of those theories since I dont know any of your strategies. mightycannon was actively trying to get discussions (answers with Short Response time) which I think is townie, I think that discussions just have a higher hance for scums to "Slip" so I think they are trying to make honest progress and I am reading them as town. mmib's posts seem pretty townie from my perspective, but there was one post that sounded pretty scummy (dunno how to quote on mobile so I'll just copy it) "ight im here and ngl fort was defo fearkilled. unfortunate that he was cop asw, also thanks martin for not saying anything so we ended up voting our seer" this just seems scum especially the last line, it looks like he is trying to emphasize with town and trying to create content without creating content About John , I really want to know what is scummy about not voting d1. Also, I get it that you were reading martin as a new player, but If you dont defend yourself at all then its just your own fault If you die. Also I dont expected them to claim their role or anything, I expected them to do anything. Altough John just seems frustrated about the Martin vote and since Martin was Seer I am currently reading them as town. I am reading Cyan Talon as either aggressive Town or very aggressive Scum here, I cant Tell how they normally play. I will trust the other people in the game on how to approach this one. I have no real reads on the other ppl however all of them seemed more town than scum. none of these reads are of notable quality, but at least i know you're reading on the game Unvote xdrudi
now i'd like to know who you think are playing scum and why, because rating slots on a spectrum of scummy to towny never does the job by itself let's also drop the martin business while we're at it because we should all agree that it was a bad idea in retrospect I'm voting erry for d2 vote Erry oddly consistent with both their readwall and their play pattern d1 i do feel like much of the game has been spent on pushing quiet slots in general, though. i'm not feeling super good about erry as a vote when many of its proponents were aiming at OM until he decided to show up and go to work First off, I wasnt justifying the vote, I was justifying my action. 2nd the reason we voted Martin was that he simply didnt contributed anything for the game. For some reason that is wrong. Now I'm being voted for not contributing anything to the game? While at the same time I'm being voted for me being too serious about a vote? Anyways lets get to my Impression of the game about the people I already have a read on. dkkoba has provided a lot so far but never seems to really know who to vote which seems a bit scummy because it feels like they dont want to have a bad relation with anyone. But otherway they just seem to be trying to make progress. erry contributed nothing to d1 except coming online 1h before deadline and just jumping on the rolling train. For d2 they tried to understand the logic behind kills which from my perspective is just pointless. also they are concerned about me, but are thinking about changing their vote to the most voted? Erry seems like someone who definetly wants to shoot someone. Also they are lurking a lot but who am I to judge. Pkq is also trying to understand the logic behind kills, but it seemed more logical however, as I already said, I cant relate to any of those theories since I dont know any of your strategies. mightycannon was actively trying to get discussions (answers with Short Response time) which I think is townie, I think that discussions just have a higher hance for scums to "Slip" so I think they are trying to make honest progress and I am reading them as town. mmib's posts seem pretty townie from my perspective, but there was one post that sounded pretty scummy (dunno how to quote on mobile so I'll just copy it) "ight im here and ngl fort was defo fearkilled. unfortunate that he was cop asw, also thanks martin for not saying anything so we ended up voting our seer" this just seems scum especially the last line, it looks like he is trying to emphasize with town and trying to create content without creating content About John , I really want to know what is scummy about not voting d1. Also, I get it that you were reading martin as a new player, but If you dont defend yourself at all then its just your own fault If you die. Also I dont expected them to claim their role or anything, I expected them to do anything. Altough John just seems frustrated about the Martin vote and since Martin was Seer I am currently reading them as town. I am reading Cyan Talon as either aggressive Town or very aggressive Scum here, I cant Tell how they normally play. I will trust the other people in the game on how to approach this one. I have no real reads on the other ppl however all of them seemed more town than scum. idt anyone after this post should see drudi as scummy, as the main reason they were reading them as scummy was purely for lack of activity.
the main reason was how they pushed martin as an objectively ideal kill, as opposed to some emotional outcry from noc 1 game 2 players in hindsight, though, fort also did the same |
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Post by dkkoba on Jul 29, 2022 1:05:42 GMT
om I want to townread you but everytime i go back and look at stuff, notably right now fort ISO, I see that fort himself had you as their top FoS, I don't think reasonably you can ever leave PoE atp unless you are reasonably unaligned from flipped scum from both factions.
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Post by mymemoryisbad on Jul 29, 2022 1:05:48 GMT
im not feeling as good on mmib being town now, did anyone else get pinged by them earlier? i want to talk about them now. mmib feels v weird and i cant put my finger on it. I'm still pretty sure it's the same mmib from noc1g2 tbh - my main concerns with their playstyle is generally that they have Thoughts but they are not conductive thoughts towards scumhuntings - I can see why you'd get weird vibes but I'm like 90% sure they're just town here why everybody diss how i play |
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Post by OM~! on Jul 29, 2022 1:06:11 GMT
the more i think about it, the more im sure that PKQ is just a lockscum here, alongside erry. erry/pkq 100% scum, and then solve for rest off of PoE. how come wrt pkq? They read like they believe what they're posting ngl |
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Post by cyan on Jul 29, 2022 1:06:15 GMT
and i might as well do something with what i have
Vote mightycannon
with everything from the low-effort OM pressure to the lack of grounded reads, i think this is a safe bet
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Post by dkkoba on Jul 29, 2022 1:06:34 GMT
having read OM's iso for today I still interested in a potential vote on them. In particular, his primary content for today is reiterating what people already said about the martin vote meh on a martin vote here activity check is mid but I do get 'let's be preventative about gamestate haha!' but that also feels like an excuse to not scumhunt lol people biting at it are probably scum or lazy as shit town - it's one of those votes that's supposed to appease town but actively does Nothing to help town
There's quite literally nothing else of content in his iso.
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Post by mightycannon on Jul 29, 2022 1:06:53 GMT
Erry put up some reads aswell honestly if you want to consider a vote here highly recommend reading the total of 10 POSTS from xdrudi and erry combines from their iso's (to check one go on their pfp and click recent posts btw) erry's reads felt very uninspiring and bland while drudi's feels like someone who actually read and processed the thread.
granted it is multiball and blah blah blah can scumhunt for other team.
but drudi is someone that feels wholly uninformed in those reads
Agreed but erry's reads were kinda early game but drudi was not But honestly this is one of my main reasons on being on erry |
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Post by dkkoba on Jul 29, 2022 1:07:16 GMT
and i might as well do something with what i have Vote mightycannon with everything from the low-effort OM pressure to the lack of grounded reads, i think this is a safe bet if you aim to kill town over the other scum faction I can still make you a wagon I hope you know |
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Post by dkkoba on Jul 29, 2022 1:07:57 GMT
I am going to point the Finger of Suspicion™ at mymemoryisbad for this incredibly lazy push on the afk here. While I do not like people lurking all game (like what happened in noc game 1) this is still a very easy way for scum to wagon on someone the rest of town wants out of the game without having to make their own reads. unvote PKQ, vote MMIB TY John! He said it b4 I could but ye it’s not the wagon on Martin I hate it’s the dumb asf way ppl are trying to justify it makes me hate it tremendously. But you should go back to PKQ unvote Mighty
Vote PKQ
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Post by dkkoba on Jul 29, 2022 1:09:11 GMT
pkq/erry/OM/cyan
jeff could reasonably slot in
and i think everyone else is town in my mind.
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Post by OM~! on Jul 29, 2022 1:09:23 GMT
I'm still pretty sure it's the same mmib from noc1g2 tbh - my main concerns with their playstyle is generally that they have Thoughts but they are not conductive thoughts towards scumhuntings - I can see why you'd get weird vibes but I'm like 90% sure they're just town here why everybody diss how i play no, it's not a diss - you are learning as you go. I am saying you are good at posting your thoughts & I think you're good at trying to push your gamereads out, they just need a bit more reading for clarity, making it 'unconductive towards scumhunting' tl:dr ppl are bad at critical thinking & reading |
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Post by cyan on Jul 29, 2022 1:09:50 GMT
the more i think about it, the more im sure that PKQ is just a lockscum here, alongside erry. erry/pkq 100% scum, and then solve for rest off of PoE. how come wrt pkq? They read like they believe what they're posting ngl the reads are botched enough that you can easily argue that pkq voted you first and explained later it doesn't help that they made no active effort at putting in a case before placing the vote and only really bothered explaining after they were on fire for it |
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Post by dkkoba on Jul 29, 2022 1:10:05 GMT
pkq/erry/OM/cyan jeff could reasonably slot in and i think everyone else is town in my mind. ps: mafia/ww: if you wanna shoot the other faction, this is a good list  especially if you see both your names in there. |
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Post by cyan on Jul 29, 2022 1:10:36 GMT
and i might as well do something with what i have Vote mightycannon with everything from the low-effort OM pressure to the lack of grounded reads, i think this is a safe bet if you aim to kill town over the other scum faction I can still make you a wagon I hope you know isn't that why i'm on? |
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Post by erry on Jul 29, 2022 1:10:38 GMT
What comes after L is M and that might be you lol **For you try hards don't read into this that seriously. It supposed to be a joke.** Sigh i hope this isnt Pr Vote PKQdkkoba can you update your readlist and thoughts on d2 pkq i am confused on who to vote rn before i shift to cyan talon and start wagoning them i want a readlist from them unvote OmDefinitely unvoting Om right now though now om is back in business I am gonna reread and post my readlist now and find those stupid PKQ posts i had seen that made me feel weird about the slot Up until this point Mighty has seemed pretty hellbent on reading PKQ as scum and continuously mentioned that they'd post their reads later, but delayed actually posting several times. readlist moment (ranked on towniness) Honestly Townleans from up to down PKQ Might be a slight townlean and if you reread start of d2 you can probably see what i mean here dkkoba might be town but kinda pretty angry at this point i dont know what to expect this could possibly be scum aswell Honestly might add zach and om too my townreads yesterday was only fort which died (whoever i tr is bound to die For the Nulls: i don't have enough info on many of these slots currently i cannot reread since i have quite time these days feel like out of everyone bubida is being slightly ignored which is weird Slight scum leans (in ascending order of scum): sl drudi : it feels like their reads are not natural enough and more like sheepy reads rather than actual reads Scumread Cyan talon: it feels like most of their posts radiate that third person energy just judging posts Buddying energy However, as of this post they began town reading PKQ and phrased it in a way where it left it open to the reader to go back and find why they were townreading PKQ, no actual evidence was posted even then. I feel like people forget easily why they scumread someone and don't notice when that reason gets broken and they need to reevaluate lol yea happens sometimes I forgot which pkq posts I was talking about but I knew there were those 2 PKQ posts that made me suspicious of him somewhere out there but upon rereading I feel like those reads are more invalid now For how confident Mighty seemed in their PKQ read for so long, before eventually doubling back on it, to just justify that as forgetting the posts and deeming the former read invalid feels very defensive on Mighty's part. What I find very interesting about PKQ and Mighty though is that Mighty's votes never really put any pressure on PKQ, they were always wagoned onto other slots with several other votes such as myself or OM, especially once they began getting some flack today and started to look like a possible counterwagon. I think if this slot flips scum then PKQ scum is likely as well due to their very weird interactions thus far, though I'd like to believe PKQ is town this game |
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Post by mymemoryisbad on Jul 29, 2022 1:11:03 GMT
and i might as well do something with what i have Vote mightycannon with everything from the low-effort OM pressure to the lack of grounded reads, i think this is a safe bet i still dont like mighty but theyre too consistent with their "playstyle" even if it is scummy to be scum. at some point he would have changed his style and he has updated some of his reads (tho i still want more) and idt he needs to get voted today |
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Post by mymemoryisbad on Jul 29, 2022 1:11:51 GMT
why everybody diss how i play no, it's not a diss - you are learning as you go. I am saying you are good at posting your thoughts & I think you're good at trying to push your gamereads out, they just need a bit more reading for clarity, making it 'unconductive towards scumhunting' tl:dr ppl are bad at critical thinking & reading im not new to mafia but i am new to forums still think yall are throwing mad shade |
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Post by dkkoba on Jul 29, 2022 1:12:08 GMT
Awful Martin take #3 holy shit. So, normally, “I’m voting you until you talk” type of activity check is not a bad thing but drudi isn’t talking directly at Martin but instead sort of passively justifying a bad vote. I’m going to read this as newb town doesn’t know whom to vote but there’s nothing about this play scum wouldn’t do day1 either. As for the PKQ thing, I was on him for RVS and don’t currently have a strong enough read to go back on. Why is PKQ scum? i might need to reread john a bit more actually
but I want to propose 2 vetos of players I absolutely DO NOT want eliminated i see getting votes recently:
xDrudi + Mightycannon
I really dont understand the scumreads on mightycannon especially, considering theyve been a leader-type player this game in a way that is not scummy to me.
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Post by OM~! on Jul 29, 2022 1:12:08 GMT
pkq/erry/OM/cyan jeff could reasonably slot in and i think everyone else is town in my mind. no cyan is not scum I will fight you on this lmao |
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Post by dkkoba on Jul 29, 2022 1:12:48 GMT
ok maybe im holding part of the puzzle and some other people i am scumreading have the other half lol
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Post by OM~! on Jul 29, 2022 1:13:10 GMT
no, it's not a diss - you are learning as you go. I am saying you are good at posting your thoughts & I think you're good at trying to push your gamereads out, they just need a bit more reading for clarity, making it 'unconductive towards scumhunting' tl:dr ppl are bad at critical thinking & reading im not new to mafia but i am new to forums still think yall are throwing mad shade mb, I don't mean to come off as condescending - I'm not trying to say you're bad in any means. |
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Post by dkkoba on Jul 29, 2022 1:13:15 GMT
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh lets flip PKQ i think thats a surefire hit off of their play, NKA, and just overall gamestate
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Post by dkkoba on Jul 29, 2022 1:13:58 GMT
vote: PKQ
erry's last post was incredibly heat and I can't feel good voting that out, rereading the thread for evidence is a super town trait.
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especially if you see both your names in there.
