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Post by ihbst on Sept 13, 2022 20:57:05 GMT
we cross
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Post by ihbst on Sept 13, 2022 21:04:01 GMT
dont vote me actually tho
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Post by ihbst on Sept 13, 2022 21:16:35 GMT
either way this is MYLO/VOLO so we can't afford to vote wrong this early fellow vts
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Post by bubidajeffery on Sept 14, 2022 0:51:41 GMT
alright hello
micro is mad and wants me to play so he enforced mlc so here we are
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Post by bubidajeffery on Sept 14, 2022 0:56:47 GMT
first of all I have no clue how you let my slot or Anna’s, let alone BOTH, survive to what I believe is lylo but I digress this game has been shit
that being said though, I’m gonna be out today but I’ll read through what little has been said and post more tomorrow if I don’t forget(literally might but we’ll see)
for now “fellow vts” sounds like a really bad line that tries to fake being town but I’ll read into Anna’s posts tomorrow and it’s subject to change fs
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Post by ihbst on Sept 14, 2022 19:17:33 GMT
bubibia jeffery i think you are scum
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Post by ihbst on Sept 14, 2022 19:47:55 GMT
nvm
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Post by bubidajeffery on Sept 14, 2022 19:55:13 GMT
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Post by bubidajeffery on Sept 14, 2022 19:55:43 GMT
idk why that turned into an emote but whatever
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Post by ihbst on Sept 14, 2022 20:22:44 GMT
how to vote
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Post by bubidajeffery on Sept 14, 2022 21:03:03 GMT
[slash b]
slash = /
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Post by bubidajeffery on Sept 14, 2022 21:03:32 GMT
fuck,
[bee] [slash b]
bee = b
slash = /
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Post by bubidajeffery on Sept 14, 2022 21:29:38 GMT
ok upon further inspection, anna literally had ZERO LINES and was only subbed out now to ihbst who has been extremely questionable to me thus far. their lines seem meme-y which is fine but like it's lylo so i don't really understand it, and like i said the "fellow vts" just kinda rubs me the wrong way. totally possible im reading too much into things but i dont have much to go off of
schia/tb - TB is a bit weird to me as well. They claimed that they were making reads and contributing but all i really see is like "ping me if you want to ask me stuff", and they mentioned they have reads but then didn't mention any of them(besides john i guess, who they didn't end up voting) which i feel like is counter intuitive for town. But tbf they spoke more than I did so I'm not one to talk. that being said though, i think that schia had a thoughtful and good first post but this game is super dead and probably beyond repair
snackers - has a little more posting, moreso after being pushed by scept but im noticing a trend in activity which i don't blame lmfao. i don't think there is too much elaboration, but he's had reads and actually says them and acts on them like pkq and rudi, unlike tb slot. semi-buddying with ddlc(i agree with the tl tho), and recently has been going after erry only for him to die a couple nights after(he did elaborate on this tho), which the former is a little scummy and same with the latter, but it's not enough to point me towards him being scum honestly.
ddlc - i think i agree that ddlc is the most towny person left atp, but anything is possible. seems like he was also pretty afk at the start but definitely picked it up and is prob one of the most active people left funnily enough. second vote on the mc wagon i think is pretty town, he's the only person alive who actually voted out a scum. same thing with the sr on erry for him to die but that might just be smth else. he had a fort sr with actual reasoning which i think is good even though fort flipped town. the only real thing i would point out is defeatism but i don't really doubt that town would say that consdering we were moving into lylo with at least 2 inactive slots.
Overall i would probably say that I’m most likely leaning towards it being ihbst + schia/snackers but yeah im not good enough to read into the little information and activity that’s been pumped into this game. Also i understand that yes, my slot is indeed shit and has had no real substance whatsoever which I’m at fault for but i suppose this effort is better than no effort at all.
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Sept 14, 2022 23:24:01 GMT
Everything's fine. Everything's great.
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Sept 14, 2022 23:29:16 GMT
Realtalk, before I asked to sub in, I was kind of chewing on the possibility of EOD3 wagons being S/V/S, just due to the spread, but given the game's overall uh.... pulse, i'm not locked on that without some strong consideration into voting habits overall. Proboards doesn't really have any robust vote history tools so like. There's that, too.
My thing w/ ihbst is like....................
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Sept 14, 2022 23:36:36 GMT
dont vote me actually tho either way this is MYLO/VOLO so we can't afford to vote wrong this early fellow vts I don't know that this is "memey" as opposed to just like... the sort of behavior one might expect from low-hanging fruit village in a low activity game, whose primary exposure to townplay in an F x scenario has probably been on PS itself, where a claim at daystart & an invitation to cross is like, by and large standard play. Certainly not optimal, but it's like, the base expectation a lot of people have for the phase. The eyebrow-raise for me was less about perceived meme-ness (bc again, I do think it's plausible that those posts come from town in this roster, in this game), but moreso that there was zero engagement with the post I'd made before it - or any actual game content for that matter. But add in the fact that they subbed into a deadslot in a dead game and I have a hard time treating that as AI. |
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Sept 15, 2022 0:19:55 GMT
ok upon further inspection, anna literally had ZERO LINES and was only subbed out now to ihbst who has been extremely questionable to me thus far. their lines seem meme-y which is fine but like it's lylo so i don't really understand it, and like i said the "fellow vts" just kinda rubs me the wrong way. totally possible im reading too much into things but i dont have much to go off ofschia/tb - TB is a bit weird to me as well. They claimed that they were making reads and contributing but all i really see is like "ping me if you want to ask me stuff", and they mentioned they have reads but then didn't mention any of them(besides john i guess, who they didn't end up voting) which i feel like is counter intuitive for town. But tbf they spoke more than I did so I'm not one to talk. that being said though, i think that schia had a thoughtful and good first post but this game is super dead and probably beyond repairsnackers - has a little more posting, moreso after being pushed by scept but im noticing a trend in activity which i don't blame lmfao. i don't think there is too much elaboration, but he's had reads and actually says them and acts on them like pkq and rudi, unlike tb slot. semi-buddying with ddlc(i agree with the tl tho), and recently has been going after erry only for him to die a couple nights after(he did elaborate on this tho), which the former is a little scummy and same with the latter, but it's not enough to point me towards him being scum honestly.ddlc - i think i agree that ddlc is the most towny person left atp, but anything is possible. seems like he was also pretty afk at the start but definitely picked it up and is prob one of the most active people left funnily enough. second vote on the mc wagon i think is pretty town, he's the only person alive who actually voted out a scum. same thing with the sr on erry for him to die but that might just be smth else. he had a fort sr with actual reasoning which i think is good even though fort flipped town. the only real thing i would point out is defeatism but i don't really doubt that town would say that consdering we were moving into lylo with at least 2 inactive slots. Overall i would probably say that I’m most likely leaning towards it being ihbst + schia/snackers but yeah im not good enough to read into the little information and activity that’s been pumped into this game. Also i understand that yes, my slot is indeed shit and has had no real substance whatsoever which I’m at fault for but i suppose this effort is better than no effort at all. Which brings me here, because like.... the things written in this post Make Sense, but on the whole it's pretty anodyne, and in a game that's had this many dead townies, I'd think there'd be more investment in making deliberate inquiries into players' relations to the one flipped wolf we do have. It's superficially thorough, but despite touching on all living players there's exactly one mention of mightycannon - who definitely wasn't without legible content - and it's only really brought up to justify the treatment of DDLC as concretely town. I also think there are some odd perspective things going on in this post, too. I feel like a lot of this post is has just been stuck with disclaimers - you know, statements being qualified by "it could be this, but I don't know..." or "I think this is it, but who am I to talk", which I do think is a very different thing from raising counterarguments or trying seriously interrogate one's own thinking to look for possible oversights. I've bolded some of what I'm talking about, to give a more concrete example - again, to be clear, the issue isn't that some of the (otherwise straightforward) thoughts and ideas in that post are being qualified, it's that the qualifiers on all those statements function to dampen the level of commitment to those statements, rather than give actual reasoning as to why they might be more or less indicative of one alignment over the other. Again on the perspective front, I also think there are some parts of this post that pre-flip slots in this game - that is, they take as given that certain slots in this game are one alignment over the other, without there being mechanical information confirming those alignments (in the context of vanilla, a nightkill or an execution), and then use that presumed alignment as the foundation for arguments around other slots. I've underlined the two examples that stood out to me. In the first case, Bubida outlines a case on TB - it's pretty weak, but given what's available to go off of here, I do think it makes some kind of sense? Like, the idea that someone might make mention of reads, but then not disclose them, is something that makes sense to read as scummy - it's not strictly AI, as town can (and does! and did, in fact!) leave reads undisclosed just as wolves do, however suboptimal a play it may be, but again: it does make sense to have a wolfread there. The stickier point for me is that the second part of that read, which I underlined, presumes that my entrance post (and at the time, my only post) was a sincere effort to get the game back on track - like, the section either reads as a statement of suspicion toward TB, followed by an acknowledgement that town!Schia's post likely doesn't do much to salvage the game *or* that second part is somehow supposed to further support the SL? In either case I'd love some clarification. The second instance has more to do with the buddying accusation only really making sense if ddlc is locktown - otherwise it's just presuming the slot is town, and the case for w!Snackers buddying the slot is contingent on ddlc's being a villager. Which runs into some issues when the townread on ddlc is still marked with disclaimers. It's frustrating because I do appreciate the work put here into looking at each of the remaining slots, but the actual content is pretty wolfy to me. |
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Sept 15, 2022 0:32:29 GMT
Also just kind of thinking how like, if ihbst is scum, what was the plan? NKs have prevailingly been on vocal slots, scumteam is only down one wolf and has managed several successful mislims. It's hard to read into postcount when the slot just straight up wasn't posting, but I do struggle with the idea that wolves would kick off Fx with.... that.
Like, if the main LHF slot, ihbst, is in fact a lowposting wolf as opposed to the designated mislim, then I'm having a hard time seeing the trajectory of their posts today.
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Sept 15, 2022 0:38:34 GMT
ok vote erry third slot is scum probably aligned with mighty cannon since he’s always scum ok but why are we making wagons out of two inactives Vote BubidaJefferywe start with the least interesting player here and move on from there ok but why are we making wagons out of two inactives Vote BubidaJefferywe start with the least interesting player here and move on from there >why are we making wagons out of inactive >votes an inactive >leaves >not a chad but cyan talon Anyways I want to vote one of these slots today mymemoryisbad (posts give those fake aka scum vibes) Xdrudi (sheepy?,their stance of pkq (when they were higher)? I'm not sure this slot can certainly flip back into towncore Other than that fort's gameplay is indeed different but its probably due to it being nilla than them being scum but I'd like to keep an eye on them I'm also like, decently sure this spews you & mighty as partners. |
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Sept 15, 2022 0:47:30 GMT
damn ddlc finally exists kek Anna and bubida are the only lurkers here but i think i will wait until ddlc posts a actual read Bumping this until I know what to do with it |
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Post by ihbst on Sept 15, 2022 0:54:55 GMT
b/b vote bubiba jeffery
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Post by ihbst on Sept 15, 2022 0:55:23 GMT
/b/ vote bubiba
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Post by ihbst on Sept 15, 2022 0:55:49 GMT
bruh oh well
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Sept 15, 2022 1:40:34 GMT
Going back through D3, I think the best thing either ihbst or ddlc has going for them is that they both seem to be attempted mislims, as opposed to distance votes between scum partners. Mighty first joins with Fort and votes for anna (now ihbst), with the apparent approach atp being to push for a mislim on a lowposter. If this were a bus attempt, I don't think there'd be much motive for MC to bail: when Fort gets suspicious and switches his vote to Mighty after losing confidence in w!Anna, it doesn't make sense for w!Mighty to remove his vote there if the two were partners. If they were partners, mighty could just double down on Anna, and see the bus through to its end - they'd be getting rid of a deadweight partner & getting some credibility from pushig scum, credibility that would also make Fort look worse for bailing. Instead, Mighty backs down - it's a fear reaction from someone who doesn't want to be caught pushing town & is too worried about getting pushback to commit tot he push or engage with Fort on it. The vote on ddlc is another sheeped vote - this time sheeping Erry - albeit I don't think this one's strictly as clearing? There's a world where Mighty votes DDLC there (choosing to put that wagon over the other lowposters) for the reasons outlined previously, which could be supported by how quickly MC goes along with Fort and switches back to Anna. Honestly the main thing that bugs me about having to read around those voting trends is that apparently it was enough just for ddlc to have posted? as opposed to there being any interest in what was being posted. It's hard to make that super-AI, and it's one of the more obnoxious things that comes up in low-activity games - the game is so deeply plagued by activity concerns, that even when activity does pick up, people spend more time remarking on it than actually utilizing it. What does help me feel better about town!ddlc, though, is the context of their vote. When Erry (love ya) capitalizes on the activity spike and tries to wagon mighty again, mighty again changes vote and goes for Snackers.
And see, that's weird. Because if Snackers is town, then that raises the question of why Mighty voted against Snackers, instead of joining the MMIB wagon to fight for plur. If the goal is survival, and both Snackers and MMIB were wagons on town, then MC's vote just straight up does not make sense there. If Snackers is wolf, though, the vote has some sense to it. It creates grounds for distance from a lower posting partner, it's plausible as a counterwagon and stands a chance of getting voted over MC (in which case he'll have flipped a wolf and would have less heat on him), and if Mighty does end up going over anyway, then w!Snackers looks a bit better for having been the counterwagon to a flipped wolf.
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Sept 15, 2022 1:41:56 GMT
ihbst [b]bubidajeffery[/b]
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