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Post by ihbst on May 1, 2023 10:39:03 GMT
feel like ice isn't trying to find the fire, while fire is trying to find ice
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Post by ihbst on May 1, 2023 10:43:57 GMT
I guess what I'm trying to say: Ice is killing people on clemens wagon, while fire is trying to find the ice
at least that's my takeaway from kills
-Dactyl7 voted ice and was voted by aka, so prob my biggest tr
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Post by ihbst on May 1, 2023 10:49:24 GMT
I feel like not really any slots can be fire OR ice, based on wagons, so not really a "mid ground" vote
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Post by ihbst on May 1, 2023 10:51:12 GMT
Shaun is probably the nullest slot in the game, and would probably be the best option for a vote
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Post by ihbst on May 1, 2023 11:01:13 GMT
Ice reads: syv>saygg>shaun>TOS>cyan>dactyl
Fire reads: TOS>saygg>shaun>dactyl>cyan>syv
idk
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Post by cyan on May 1, 2023 12:27:42 GMT
i wanna know the relationship between these two posts, right: - The wagons are the most important info, and its practically confirmed that people on clemens wagon are not ice and people on aka wagon were not fire - The fire kills feel logical, while the ice kills feel impulsive (eg. killing Schiavetto when they were on fire wagon, and MyanMario kill was def weird when they were a semi-major wagon the day before) My main thoughts on gamestate, obviously best vote is probably: 1. someone who wasn't on either scum wagon 2.someone who follows the previously stated kill patterns. Shaun is probably the nullest slot in the game, and would probably be the best option for a vote Ice reads: syv>saygg>shaun>TOS>cyan>dactyl Fire reads: TOS>saygg>shaun>dactyl>cyan>syv idk because i don't see how sayggtome (i.e. lindauna/ailura) is supposed to fit as either impulsive or logical killing scum and it's technically your job to argue that i also want to know what makes you think shaun is a better option than the two slots above them as both alignments |
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Post by cyan on May 1, 2023 12:28:12 GMT
I feel like not really any slots can be fire OR ice, based on wagons, so not really a "mid ground" vote you're just contradicting yourself with every other post atp i feel like you should either get good or get better |
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Post by cyan on May 1, 2023 12:30:47 GMT
Can we talk about how Sylveon is like "don't vote me haha I will isodive haha even though my ISOdives are terrible and barely say anything" Just because you post a big Wallpost doesn't make you town unfortunately for you, honey, i think you bullied sylveon out of the game and the "don't vote me haha" reads town with low self-esteem as much as it reads scum faking activity |
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Post by OM~! on May 1, 2023 12:44:19 GMT
Gm chat
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Post by ihbst on May 1, 2023 13:01:54 GMT
oh haha I just feel like its a decent fit for both, but I kinda just posted as I thought more. Order of post=orrder of ideas, I came up with the fact that ccg was null after my post about no midground but I can't delete so yeah
On Ailura/Saygg Just believe it fits in with both ice/fire, more so ice.
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Post by ihbst on May 1, 2023 13:07:11 GMT
i see the contradictions but I focused on a few details at a time before putting it all together into my reads post.
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Post by ihbst on May 1, 2023 14:00:31 GMT
lets play
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Post by ihbst on May 1, 2023 14:14:49 GMT
vote shaun
the thing is idk much about ailura pmeta, so i'm going with this for now.
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Post by ihbst on May 1, 2023 14:18:40 GMT
vote:shaun ccg eek
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Post by OM~! on May 1, 2023 14:39:29 GMT
Ice reads: syv>saygg>shaun>TOS>cyan>dactyl Fire reads: TOS>saygg>shaun>dactyl>cyan>syv idk no
cyan / shaun not fire mafia based on aka iso, especially w/ aka tryna vote off shaun eod1
not sure how you get these reads
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Post by OM~! on May 1, 2023 14:41:55 GMT
Ice reads: syv>saygg>shaun>TOS>cyan>dactyl Fire reads: TOS>saygg>shaun>dactyl>cyan>syv idk no
cyan / shaun not fire mafia based on aka iso, especially w/ aka tryna vote off shaun eod1
not sure how you get these reads
like this was a 2-3 minute read kinda iso
I don't think anyone aka pushed is fire mafia w/ them bc bussing is anti-wincon in this theme (crosskills r a thing etc)
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Post by OM~! on May 1, 2023 14:42:18 GMT
vote ihbst
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Post by ihbst on May 1, 2023 14:43:28 GMT
man idk anymore, gg
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Post by ihbst on May 1, 2023 14:47:15 GMT
why is no one fire maf this game
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Post by ihbst on May 1, 2023 14:50:18 GMT
do you guys think i'm ice or fire?
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Post by Shaun-CCGeek on May 1, 2023 17:10:08 GMT
oh gm
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Post by Shaun-CCGeek on May 1, 2023 17:11:26 GMT
i need to read back from the start, all the new subs are hurting my brain
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Post by termsofservice on May 1, 2023 17:57:22 GMT
Can we talk about how Sylveon is like "don't vote me haha I will isodive haha even though my ISOdives are terrible and barely say anything" Just because you post a big Wallpost doesn't make you town unfortunately for you, honey, i think you bullied sylveon out of the game and the "don't vote me haha" reads town with low self-esteem as much as it reads scum faking activity Cyberbullying is my specialty |
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Post by ❗ on May 1, 2023 18:26:59 GMT
when is dl again?
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Post by sayggtome on May 1, 2023 21:34:09 GMT
Okay. So I really hard read up to page 12, and started to get worried I don't know how long days are. I want to post some sort of contribution. I was taking too long to read, so I skimmed. I will reread hard later.
I thought Clemsen was easily seen as scum, as scum you can't really reinact towniness since you have TMI. It's a hard skill to learn and often cracks are shown by small mistakes, such as Clemson being on Myan for a horrible reason, pushing them, but not voting them until they were later called out. Scum naturally want to keep their options open, so I'm assuming that why they pushed but didn't vote them right away.
I want to cross reference Theaph, from what I seen they town read Clemson for no reason? I think they also town read akakap? Correct me if I'm wrong, I skimmed day two. I will reread!!!
I think the MyanMario push was odd to me personally, only because I personally could tell Myan was trolling in the beginning but recovered when they realized this was not how people were wanting to play. Change in tone basically. Also pmeta on MyanMario since I have been working closely will Myan for months, I could tell they were town. I'm assuming if I remember they died to ice mafia, so most likely ice thought they were fire mafia over the other people on the wagon. I'm trying to understand the thought process there.
I really don't understand how I been sided with ice mafia. I am town. But on Clemsen's stating they thought ccgeek/ailura was a t/s. But, never explained their reads on that. They did scum read CCgeek. Meaning ailura was town, but I'm assuming they only did that because Ailura was on them but got off and wanted to keep the vote off of them as long as possible because you know Ailura would def get them.
But I want to take notice of that read t/s read as well, I may be overreading things a bit too much, but I really think their push on CCGeek was fake? They only if I remember correctly hopped on the vote when someone else voted them. I feel like they voted their scum partner in a sense to give them some sort of shift off of them being ice mafia. Let's say either of them flipped ( both ice mafia in my eyes ) gives the other lee ( can't spell the word ) way. Most scum know they should vote their partner day one if they are being voted off. To atleast try to give some sort of clear for their partner. If the Clemsen was not voted off and CCGeek was, he would not be seen as ice mafia. Please do tell me if I'm overanyslising this spot!!!
I also want to bring notice to Dacty, they were second on Clemsen's vote. And if I remember they scum read him off of one line. I could be paranoid, but they didn't push and then didn't say anything after that. Maybe they thought the wagon would die down later, or the fact they could get early not ice mafia if they flipped.
Apparently akakakp flipped. I haven't read the days following into day two that much, so I will update on who I personally think is fire mafia when I read. I just wanted to post something.
I realized while reading ailura's reads, I didn't agree with a lot, so I'm sorry if I'm ruining their legacy. They scum read akakap though, while I town read them, but basically because of how they played day one. But I scum read Clemsen, they did not. I feel like I'm in a tight spot at the moment.
I want to continue into my reads on who I think is not ice mafia.
Cyan Talon is not ice mafia frankly because they got Clemsen right away, and continued to push them. They did not let them go, and saw scum. I also see them as town lean, due them activity contributing in the game and explaining their reads well. They get their point across every post I seen so far.
TE is also confirmed not ice mafia and I whole heartily think they are town. Due to their day one interactions with Clemsen. Yes, it was a poor vote on them base-wise, but you can tell TE voted out of pettiness rather than an actually read/push right off the bat, but they later recovered by explaining their read more. This may be a weak read, and is surrounded likely on a mirco read, I'm pretty confident. No way is their scum partner bussing day one so LOUDLY.
I will read day two and find my reads on who may be fire mafia, and post more town reads/town leans, but those are the only ones I feel confident at the moment.
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