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Post by termsofservice on Apr 24, 2023 19:13:53 GMT
MyanMario is NOT scum. However what they are is Neg town and I have ZERO issue voting Neg town D1.
Vote me for it all you want, I'm not letting Myan live past this day.
vote: Myan[b/]
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Post by iavh on Apr 24, 2023 19:15:57 GMT
well done you figured out the theme, you get a gold star what else do you have to contribute or are you just going to inevitably go afk |
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Post by termsofservice on Apr 24, 2023 19:18:39 GMT
well done you figured out the theme, you get a gold star what else do you have to contribute or are you just going to inevitably go afk Don't fuck with my man Sandteam he has all the right to afk |
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Post by iavh on Apr 24, 2023 19:36:59 GMT
no comment.
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Post by iavh on Apr 24, 2023 20:09:37 GMT
MyanMarina kek are you sure you are parked just tell us if so Yeah, no, why would you ever say this lmfao Vote 我是谁?
I wasn't sure what "not looking back" meant and asked to confirm. My response was called "atrocious" (thanks autocorrect) and I don't really get why. |
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Apr 24, 2023 21:30:52 GMT
MyanMario is NOT scum. However what they are is Neg town and I have ZERO issue voting Neg town D1. Vote me for it all you want, I'm not letting Myan live past this day. vote: Myan[b/]if you actually believe Myan is town you should not be doing this. The existence of two nightkills and the possibility of a crosskill does not mean you sacrifice your dayvote on a policy lunch. |
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Apr 24, 2023 21:31:40 GMT
There's a scarcity of unique posters that is affecting the game's legibility.
More people should be posting more usefully.
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Apr 24, 2023 21:34:46 GMT
Yeah, no, why would you ever say this lmfao Vote 我是谁?
I wasn't sure what "not looking back" meant and asked to confirm. My response was called "atrocious" (thanks autocorrect) and I don't really get why. your response was atrocious for the reasons Cyan outlined - his entire push on you is predicated on the concerns I was implicitly expressing on your slot. I think the manner in which Cyan has gone about developing that progression/pursuing that vite is also kind of icky, which is why I suggested that he might be a scum as well, but is never on the same team with you. |
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Apr 24, 2023 21:37:05 GMT
My current problem though is low read confidence due to the thread having a lot of the same voices
Under different circumstances that could be suggestive of a high degree of wolf influence on the thread, compared to town influence, but because some folks haven't been vocal (or in some cases, even posted at all), it's hard to make that judgment.
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Apr 24, 2023 21:38:20 GMT
If any (town) here is prepared to make a policy vite, it should be on someone who has not posted anything whatsoever. Otherwise, you should be voting your SRs (or if you have no SR, the person you have the least grounds to TR)
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Apr 25, 2023 1:09:06 GMT
i'm back and i have a few thoughts. this is post 1 where i casebuild and get this over with my stance on clemens has not changed. i firmly believe that their fervent push on myan adds up to jack shit and they're aware of it don't like how I actually try to push myan and you guys just wont let me I am only activelly pushing and not passively pushing gg like come on! this screams so much like "look at me, i'm doing what town does, i'm pursuing a scumread" and they haven't repeated any of the two (flimsy) points they made in their past few posts. and in case we all need a reminder i'm going to just let the actual reasoning behind the myan wagon sit on its own pedestal for all of us to admire: Sure, I'll explain Myan for you in my pov. They stand out to me in two points: the OMGUS, and last line of post 25. OMGUS kinda explains itself, and the last line basically states that Myan would tunnel anything or anyone who posted next. This was kind of a scumtell as I am p sure that t!myan would want to advance gamestate instead of trolling like this, which I presume that s!myan would do. this isn't a read complex enough to warrant the kind of defensiveness clemens has been playing with these past few days. clemens is the vote of the day and if someone wants to contest it on grounds other than "Player X is a better vote" i'd like you to address all of clemens's recent posts when you do that and if you're wondering what i think after all of this, myan + clemens remains my bet for one of the scumteams. imagine i sponged schia's read again (if you missed it, it's clemens's "hey are you actually parked on myan" post before they went on this micrograin of a push), but also match it up with how myan has largely just... ignored the otherwise fairly large pressure on them and continued to play passively Celemens is being very polarizing which is pro-town as it helps deduce alignments. I would agree that the myan push is mostly bs, but isn't that how D1 is supposed to work? My current read is that myan is ~rand, and clemens is probably town. |
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Apr 25, 2023 1:10:50 GMT
Alright looking back Clemens slot is ambiguous as bad town =/= scum but there has been some attempt to scumhunt and make reads albeit the shaky reasoning, personally find their take on Myan to be a bit of a stretch but looking back they did have a line on CCGeek which deviated from their tunnel and: oh cool tos is thunder. who is schiavetto tho? i need to know yall at face value atleast This is one of two attempts from CCGeek to engage with the game. They casted a single vote on me during RVS and made multiple NAI/fillery posts interacting with other users. also like: where the are rest of the ppl. I'm p sure only 6-7 ppl have spoken so far And this is as far as their game engagement goes. This is worse than Clemens since CCGeek is purely focused on identifying users, shitposty/NAI content, and calling on the afks to speak. None of these actions have led to or hinted at reads.
unvote 我是谁
vote Shaun-CCGeek
180 on the clemens read from is most likely bad town projector mode |
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Apr 25, 2023 1:14:10 GMT
MyanMario is NOT scum. However what they are is Neg town and I have ZERO issue voting Neg town D1. Vote me for it all you want, I'm not letting Myan live past this day. vote: Myan[b/]If you're fine with it I guess... Vote termsofservice |
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Apr 25, 2023 1:17:52 GMT
If any (town) here is prepared to make a policy vite, it should be on someone who has not posted anything whatsoever. Otherwise, you should be voting your SRs (or if you have no SR, the person you have the least grounds to TR) no posters will get subbed. not worth a policy |
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Apr 25, 2023 1:18:20 GMT
Scorr is town, gz
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Post by MyanMario on Apr 25, 2023 1:56:22 GMT
ok i got some time to be serious, don't expect much though. to keep playing non-seriously though, i will base everything i say on pmeta
schia is talking way more than they seemingly like to, but i agree with most of what theyve said.
scorr is town, no pmeta needed
clemens is trying to hero but they're doing it in a completely different way than last game i was with them. they're going on me cuz im :troll: but theyre kinda doing the same thing, and since they know me its a bad push cuz i took last game very seriously. if they want to argue im changing it up sure but slashShrug on that
aka is playing like they did when they first joined ps, i like the style. v professional, keep it up
ccg doesnt have enough to read for me to pmeta
ailura is a bit all over the place but theyre posting a lot so they can chill w/ us. personally i think they flip if clemens does and vice versa.
cyan's cool, like the posts. probably going to be the leader for the game so im already asking for a doc on that.
TE is meh. post more. lines are fine so far, need you to spam so i can read.
if i didnt write your name i forgot cuz u weren't on page 5.
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Post by MyanMario on Apr 25, 2023 1:56:51 GMT
ok i got some time to be serious, don't expect much though. to keep playing non-seriously though, i will base everything i say on pmeta schia is talking way more than they seemingly like to, but i agree with most of what theyve said. scorr is town, no pmeta needed clemens is trying to hero but they're doing it in a completely different way than last game i was with them. they're going on me cuz im :troll: but theyre kinda doing the same thing, and since they know me its a bad push cuz i took last game very seriously. if they want to argue im changing it up sure but slashShrug on that aka is playing like they did when they first joined ps, i like the style. v professional, keep it up ccg doesnt have enough to read for me to pmeta ailura is a bit all over the place but theyre posting a lot so they can chill w/ us. personally i think they flip if clemens does and vice versa. cyan's cool, like the posts. probably going to be the leader for the game so im already asking for a doc on that. TE is meh. post more. lines are fine so far, need you to spam so i can read. if i didnt write your name i forgot cuz u weren't on page 5. wow im an idiot did i really go "be serious" then say "non-serious" wtf |
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Post by MyanMario on Apr 25, 2023 1:58:25 GMT
also i think in this nk's are going to be huge to look into and will play a big part of analysis. FNI is a theme imo that can be made or broken by crosskills and it shows how much scum is willing to follow their sr's.
I doubt much bussing happens in this when you only have 1 partner who is subjected to be moirdered at any point so if someone makes a valid push and stays on till eod they probably unaligned if it flips.
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Post by MyanMario on Apr 25, 2023 1:59:11 GMT
might be online lurking for a bit, ill try to refresh every hour or so. btw can we get votecount and dl update Fenrir idk how to @ |
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Post by cyan on Apr 25, 2023 4:06:39 GMT
and after a restful night, cyan talon comes back to say a whole load of nothing: Really not a fan of these last few lines from clemens as it neither engages with the game state nor directly addresses valid lines of inquiry from other players. The vote on Myan to avoid an SR for how hard they pushed is scummy, I feel the discussion about new players is quite NAI. Hoping Clemens can elaborate more on the Myan read beyond apparent OMGUS and one "sus line" ("next person to talk is scum and ill tunnel em tomorrow" - reads troll rather than scum). Think Clemens scum indicative here.
Clemens is pushing too hard on Myan but also needs to elaborate more on their read? How is voting their scumread trying to avoid getting SR'd? Not sure i'm following. i think the crux of the issue to lindauna (and i know it is to me) is that clemens is making a big deal out of myan's slot. like. oh the omgus myan already scummier than I thought yo- everyone here knows me and if not they're lame. second time doing a forum (won my first ^.^), let's win this. this theme haunts me in ps so im sure ill love it just as much shaun seems fake af- either that or theyre awkward, lmk! clemen completely fine here so we chill ill omgus schia i dont even remember who i first rvsed next person to talk is scum and ill tunnel em tomorrow if myan flips scum really needs to look at this-distancing from ccgeek? last line is really bad, basically stops discussion and advance of gamestate I like the way you think but definitely reading into things too much hmmm… defending myan? let me just note that down also who are you on MS? Sure, I'll explain Myan for you in my pov. They stand out to me in two points: the OMGUS, and last line of post 25. OMGUS kinda explains itself, and the last line basically states that Myan would tunnel anything or anyone who posted next. This was kind of a scumtell as I am p sure that t!myan would want to advance gamestate instead of trolling like this, which I presume that s!myan would do. don't like how I actually try to push myan and you guys just wont let me I am only activelly pushing and not passively pushing gg Clemens is pushing too hard on Myan but also needs to elaborate more on their read? How is voting their scumread trying to avoid getting SR'd? Not sure i'm following. Do you think Myan is town then? No I think Myan just made some random read and shifted off Schia just to stop getting pushed by me but no I push EVEN MORE HAHAHAHA that big. i pointed out earlier that clemens was playing in a LAMIST kind of fashion, but an iso dive just makes that even more painfully obvious because there's a disproportionate amount of "i'm pushing myan, look!" to actual substance behind the reads. clemens is not substantively pushing myan. i might have to drop the clemens/myan partner read because it is the weak link in my argument but i WILL stress that clemens's push on myan amounts to so little compared to how often they've been saying it that i can only see the playstyle as malicious. or maybe clemens just loves making mountains out of molehills and it's a personality trait? unfortunately said trait is scummy |
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Apr 25, 2023 4:12:11 GMT
ok i got some time to be serious, don't expect much though. to keep playing non-seriously though, i will base everything i say on pmeta schia is talking way more than they seemingly like to, but i agree with most of what theyve said. scorr is town, no pmeta needed clemens is trying to hero but they're doing it in a completely different way than last game i was with them. they're going on me cuz im :troll: but theyre kinda doing the same thing, and since they know me its a bad push cuz i took last game very seriously. if they want to argue im changing it up sure but slashShrug on that aka is playing like they did when they first joined ps, i like the style. v professional, keep it up ccg doesnt have enough to read for me to pmeta ailura is a bit all over the place but theyre posting a lot so they can chill w/ us. personally i think they flip if clemens does and vice versa. cyan's cool, like the posts. probably going to be the leader for the game so im already asking for a doc on that. TE is meh. post more. lines are fine so far, need you to spam so i can read. if i didnt write your name i forgot cuz u weren't on page 5. ailura + clemens as a scumteam is crazy bro |
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Post by cyan on Apr 25, 2023 4:17:39 GMT
Gonna try address both the post above and the posts by akakakap here. The initial reason I SRed Clemens came from this line in response to Schia saying "I'm not looking back" which is 我是谁? Avatar yesterday at 12:04am 我是谁? said: MyanMarina kek are you sure you are parked just tell us if so At first glance I found it scummy but now, I see this as a genuine misunderstanding of the phrase "I'm not looking back" and an attempt to seek clarification, and I see this line at the heart of most Clemens scumreads in this thread (including my first post). Not sure if it was a language barrier issue but looking back I didn't see this as a strong justification for a Clemens SR. I also took a look at their previous championship game to get an idea of how they play and tbh, their playstyle does tend to read scum due to their reactions to being pushed and questioned. Also this latest line: "No I think Myan just made some random read and shifted off Schia just to stop getting pushed by me but no I push EVEN MORE HAHAHAHA" This kinda explains the pressure without the justification as they were going off early rvs/trolly uso and I feel dwelling on Clemens posts isn't helpful. In this present game state there are other slots worth pressuring like CCGeek. I don't think there has been enough meaningful contribution from CCGeek, I'm waiting to hear from them in hopes of resolving that slot as they're the biggest SL for me so far. Some contributions from Myan and CCGeek would really help advance the game, staying on my vote for now. okay so what i'm seeing here is that you're thinking there might be a town explanation to clemens's actions and assuming that - clemens asking if schia was "not looking back" was less wanting to confirm what schia was doing and more wanting to be sure what they were saying. i frankly don't see how clemens would have preferred to say it like that instead of something along the lines of "does that mean you're parked? sorry i don't english" so i'm going to dismiss this point entirely. then again, this post does exist That is what "not looking back" would suggest, isn't it If I'm going anywhere else though it's 100% gonna be a pivot onto you for that atrocious reply. I dont even know what "not looking back" means at least in this instance - while i do think clemens being on myan for pressure is a valid explanation for their lack of justification behind the read, please look back on what i said in my previous post about how clemens's push on myan seems to also be injected with a fair amount of showboating. that does not convey an intent to pressure in my eyes I wasn't sure what "not looking back" meant and asked to confirm. My response was called "atrocious" (thanks autocorrect) and I don't really get why. your response was atrocious for the reasons Cyan outlined - his entire push on you is predicated on the concerns I was implicitly expressing on your slot. I think the manner in which Cyan has gone about developing that progression/pursuing that vite is also kind of icky, which is why I suggested that he might be a scum as well, but is never on the same team with you. unsolicited cyan mansplaining: most of the players here are new so i'mma need you to try to be as explicit as possible. like A Levels Biology "the poppies die off, therefore the poppy population decreases" explicit. maybe not that far but You Get Me i'm back and i have a few thoughts. this is post 1 where i casebuild and get this over with my stance on clemens has not changed. i firmly believe that their fervent push on myan adds up to jack shit and they're aware of it like come on! this screams so much like "look at me, i'm doing what town does, i'm pursuing a scumread" and they haven't repeated any of the two (flimsy) points they made in their past few posts. and in case we all need a reminder i'm going to just let the actual reasoning behind the myan wagon sit on its own pedestal for all of us to admire: this isn't a read complex enough to warrant the kind of defensiveness clemens has been playing with these past few days. clemens is the vote of the day and if someone wants to contest it on grounds other than "Player X is a better vote" i'd like you to address all of clemens's recent posts when you do that and if you're wondering what i think after all of this, myan + clemens remains my bet for one of the scumteams. imagine i sponged schia's read again (if you missed it, it's clemens's "hey are you actually parked on myan" post before they went on this micrograin of a push), but also match it up with how myan has largely just... ignored the otherwise fairly large pressure on them and continued to play passively Celemens is being very polarizing which is pro-town as it helps deduce alignments. I would agree that the myan push is mostly bs, but isn't that how D1 is supposed to work? My current read is that myan is ~rand, and clemens is probably town. do you believe that clemens is intentionally trying to be polarizing, then? like the push IS bs but re: LAMIST showboating |
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Post by cyan on Apr 25, 2023 4:20:15 GMT
ok i got some time to be serious, don't expect much though. to keep playing non-seriously though, i will base everything i say on pmeta schia is talking way more than they seemingly like to, but i agree with most of what theyve said. scorr is town, no pmeta needed clemens is trying to hero but they're doing it in a completely different way than last game i was with them. they're going on me cuz im :troll: but theyre kinda doing the same thing, and since they know me its a bad push cuz i took last game very seriously. if they want to argue im changing it up sure but slashShrug on that aka is playing like they did when they first joined ps, i like the style. v professional, keep it up ccg doesnt have enough to read for me to pmeta ailura is a bit all over the place but theyre posting a lot so they can chill w/ us. personally i think they flip if clemens does and vice versa. cyan's cool, like the posts. probably going to be the leader for the game so im already asking for a doc on that. TE is meh. post more. lines are fine so far, need you to spam so i can read. if i didnt write your name i forgot cuz u weren't on page 5. ailura + clemens as a scumteam is crazy bro my newbie goggles are telling me myan saw ailura backtracking on their clemens read and thought "this might be ailura covering for a scumpartner" |
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Post by Fenrir on Apr 25, 2023 5:30:37 GMT
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Apr 25, 2023 5:35:19 GMT
im bout to sleep
i'll check in some time tomorrow
havent read anything
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