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Post by Igpay»atinlay on Nov 26, 2014 22:21:16 GMT
and also, fort rbd you because I told you to rb you since igpay was playing mindgames, seems you guys fell for it (also for was going to rb you anyway he said) WHAT THE HELL MINDGAMES DID YOU THINK I WAS PLAYING ALL I'M DOING IS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO THE MAF IS IF I WERE PLAYING MINDGAMES YOUR SOFT SHEEP BRAIN WOULDN'T KNOW IT
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Post by Igpay»atinlay on Nov 26, 2014 22:21:52 GMT
also not because of odm, because of all the scumhunting info we got on you as well as igpay WHAT DID I DO?!
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Post by Igpay»atinlay on Nov 26, 2014 22:22:18 GMT
if Citrus is mafia, we got a confo town in fort or a bad played bussing but yeah and I really trust fort as he even revealed the overworld description first than anybody. BECAUSE YOU'RE A DAMN SHEEP
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Post by Igpay»atinlay on Nov 26, 2014 22:23:58 GMT
Fort, if you suspect two people, and they in actuality are both mafia, and you publicly say you're targeting one, then they'll just switch who makes the nightkill. You know this, it's obvious. You were actually planning on targeting me. I can tell you, I am not with Igpay. It's going to get weird if you say stuff like that when the two suspects are of different factional alignments, regardless of whether me or igpay are the scum between the two of us. Lol you underestimated my tact I predicted that you would expect me to try to fake you out. DOUBLE BLUFFED! I hit igpay! Or am I lying and I really blocked you? Or am I trying to trick you int thin king that I'm trying to fake you out again? Mwahahaah You didn't fool us because there was no 'we'. I commuted last night because, in the chatzy, I interpreted Fort as thinking that me and igpay were separate, but that I was the scum. So, in the off chance he actually did roleblock igpay, suspecting him more, I commuted to protect me from the town vigilante if there was one. And Mob, why didn't you track me tonight? It would have been darning evidence if you caught me visiting someone when I said I commuted. I suppose this line of thought only works if you believe that I truly do hate igpay (in this game, you're cool outside here bro), so it's not particularly convincing to you because you innately assume at this point that we're the two scumparties. And I talked to aj, and I just prevent myself from dying by using my secondary action. So your tracking would have still worked. I believe I mentioned this before. Seriously, why didn't you track me? You could have at least verified I 'went away without visiting anyone' (the generally accepted tracker-on-commuter result in standard mafia) if anything. LYNCH IGPAYWHAT THE HELL IT'S NOT EVEN DAY
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Post by Igpay»atinlay on Nov 26, 2014 22:24:56 GMT
That's the thing, you could have cleared me last night, would Fort not have RBed me. Tell you what, we lynch igpay today, the person pretty much everybody suspects, then tonight, Fort does not roleblock me, you track me, I will commute, and you look for that exact tracker-on commuter quote. If that exact quote does not appear, then you know I'm lying. This way, you get both your suspected scum parties. see, I would be okay with being lynched. IF I HADN'T BEEN FUCKING ROLEBLOCKED
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Post by Igpay»atinlay on Nov 26, 2014 22:31:37 GMT
okay. I can only lynch one person. So I'll lynch everyone I'm mad at. LYNCH CITRUS FREAK ULYNCH CITRUS FREAK LYNCH FORT UNLYNCH FORT LYNCH SINGA UNLYNCH SINGA LYNCH THE SHEEP MOB BOSS UNLYNCH MOB BOSS LYNCH DROOKEZYeah Drookez is the one I think is actually town.
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Post by Igpay»atinlay on Nov 26, 2014 22:31:49 GMT
i mean maf
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Post by Igpay»atinlay on Nov 26, 2014 22:48:43 GMT
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Post by Igpay»atinlay on Nov 26, 2014 22:57:16 GMT
2. Dark Sage Green 3. Drookez
5. superstarsrock 6. Igpay_atinlay 7. Singapore123 8. Citrus Freak 9. TheVexinator
11. Mob Boss 12. Fort the Cherry 13. The Lord of Dome
also look at who hasn't posted yet. LoD, SSR, and DSG look p scummy
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Post by Igpay»atinlay on Nov 26, 2014 23:09:14 GMT
[17:55:59] Igpay_atinlay: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA [17:56:02] Igpay_atinlay: also hi [17:58:38] Fort Redcstle: hi [17:58:42] Fort Redcstle: whats that? XD [17:58:47] Igpay_atinlay: I AM SO PISSED [17:58:51] Igpay_atinlay: and frustrated [17:59:59] Fort Redcstle: @? [18:00:09] Fort Redcstle: What was ur cop result? [18:00:10] Igpay_atinlay: the minecraft mafia [18:00:15] Fort Redcstle: Ah [18:00:16] Igpay_atinlay: cop result? [18:00:23] Igpay_atinlay: im a friggin [role info] [18:00:28] Igpay_atinlay: AND MOB BOSS IS A SHEEO [18:00:29] Fort Redcstle: ... [18:00:30] Igpay_atinlay: P [18:00:36] Fort Redcstle: ok :/ [18:00:42] Fort Redcstle: thats all I needed to convict you [18:00:47] Fort Redcstle: thnx! [18:00:54] Igpay_atinlay: wut? [18:01:05] Igpay_atinlay: convict me of what? [18:01:23] Fort Redcstle: lel [18:01:28] Igpay_atinlay: oh god [18:01:31] Igpay_atinlay: are you mafia? [18:01:37] Fort Redcstle: ...no? [18:01:41] Fort Redcstle: gdi [18:01:42] Igpay_atinlay: convict me of what? [18:01:43] Fort Redcstle: after all this [18:01:48] Fort Redcstle: you still suspect me [18:01:50] Fort Redcstle: LOLOLOL [18:01:51] Igpay_atinlay: YES [18:01:58] Igpay_atinlay: I HAVE NO REASON TO NOT [18:02:08] Fort Redcstle: I have reason to suspect you [18:02:15] Igpay_atinlay: OMG NO YOU DONT [18:02:31] Igpay_atinlay: and besides [18:02:51] Igpay_atinlay: didnt you RB me? [18:02:58] Igpay_atinlay: why would I get a cop result? [18:03:13] Igpay_atinlay: even if I had a result [18:03:39] Igpay_atinlay: and what made you think i had a cop result? [18:03:44] Igpay_atinlay: what is going on? [18:04:00] Fort Redcstle: Oh nvm [18:04:04] Fort Redcstle: I misread your claim WHY IS Fort Colorcastle SO clear to everyone?!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2014 23:37:13 GMT
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Nov 26, 2014 23:40:12 GMT
Imo post the rest of that convo. Even citrus mentioned that I roleblocked him. Like before this. Lol. Anyways, I already said that I roleblocked citrus last night. Pretty obvious double bluff in my opinion. Citrus himself talked about it's obviousness to me. And yah, I roleblocked citrus. As mentioned in at least one (maybe two?) previous posts. I did the bluff to A: try to bluff out the scumteam and B: to reaction fish igpay. I wonder how igpay didn't see when I posted that here: I suspect citrus. I have never denied that fact. Unless someone comes up with something better, the fact that there was no direct nightkill on the two nights I roleblocked Citrus (ODM's was indirect, more like a poisoner's work than anything else) is suspicious to me. Therefore, I hereby declare to Lynch Citrus
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2014 23:40:28 GMT
I'd like to see your claim igpay...
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Nov 26, 2014 23:41:11 GMT
I had to say that because igpay accused me of making him look scummy by saying I'd roleblock him and then there being no nightkill.
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Nov 26, 2014 23:41:52 GMT
Igpay claimed to me, it seems reasonablish, based on the roles we've had so far at least.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2014 23:44:42 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2014 23:45:58 GMT
Now that that moment is over, it should be noted that Igpay has this theory where if you totally flip out when accused, you're somehow less scummy. Even though being lynched is worse for mafia than for town.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2014 23:47:01 GMT
Igpay claimed to me, it seems reasonablish, based on the roles we've had so far at least. At this point, I think we all know what flavor of roles are instantly deemed 'plausible' or 'shut up, scum'.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2014 23:51:59 GMT
Why did you claim tracker? will not tell you scum and nice way to change the subject I think everybody is too hostile in this game; rationalize your arguments, don't act as if they are the irrefutable Law of the Universe just because something fits your agenda. Yes, Mob, you're doing a fantastic job of scumhunting; no, you're not doing very well at rationally and logically dismissing others' arguments. That sounded too hostile myself, actually, I rescind that.
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Nov 26, 2014 23:56:36 GMT
/me lynch citrus, I want you dead so I can peacefully eat some fruit. Jk
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2014 23:59:19 GMT
I feel like this is an obvious thread, as it is the heart and soul of mafia. So, this is how I scumhunt: Usually (check the Day 1 thread) I NL on day 1. On day 2, the first thing I do is get everyone talking. I pick out the people on the playerlist who haven't talked, and massHL them, or I reaction-test lynch them. (This is why you see me lynching everyone and jumping from target to target.) Activity is a good point of discussion and reaction-lynching inactive people can be helpful. If the person starts contributing as soon as you lynch them, that is the usual sign of a scum. Also, I've found that people that make excuses for being inactive, even if that excuse is verifiable, is usually scummy. One of the scummiest lines in the game is, "But I actually am battling. Check if you don't believe me." TBH, most people that are battling can actively play mafia at the same time. Except me. Despite the fact that activity can help to find scum, many inactive people aren't mafia, and inactivity isn't a good indicator of scum without further scumminess. A good way to ruin town is by mistaking neutral or pro-town actions to be scummy. The most bothersome example is when a bandwagonee gets really mad and starts cussing off the town. When a player gets unreasonably angry for being bandwagoned, that person is almost always town (I take that back, because freaking out is going to turn into a mafia tactic soon). There are other actions that are mistakenly taken as scummy, but I can't thin of them right now. The best way to find scum is to figure out how players act when they are scum. I pay attention to this most often when I am a mafia partner. There are countless players (the one that comes to mind is PKMNuser) who say absolutely nothing all game, and get away with it until mylo or lylo. There are other players who post so often and are so pro-town that they end up leading the town to their doom (the one that comes to mind is rssp1). This is why it's important to get everyone to talk; it gets players like PKMNuser out of their comfort zones. However, you ahve to be wary of like rssp1 and not let them take over the game by bandwagoning inactive users. It's very important to figure out which players tend to lurk when scum and which players tend to be active. tl;dr, I know. I'm just not a bullet-point kind of guy. Even when a teacher tells me to make a bulleted list, I have trouble not paragraphing it. Whenever I make a powerpoint okay I'm ranting now. Hmmmm.... Food for thought. tl;dr: I am better than your children at Mafia
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Nov 27, 2014 0:03:25 GMT
The thing is, the game works two ways. In no particular order:
A: Igpay was especially describing his own style of play when he is town or B: Igpay is following his own advice and mafia reacting violently to seem town
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2014 0:15:27 GMT
(I take that back, because freaking out is going to turn into a mafia tactic soon) This is a pretentious game. Perhaps it isn't so fortuitous that he's acting like this.
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Nov 27, 2014 0:26:24 GMT
(I take that back, because freaking out is going to turn into a mafia tactic soon) This is a pretentious game. Perhaps it isn't so fortuitous that he's acting like this. Just because you're using fancy language doesn't mean your not just repeating what I just said :/
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Post by Mob Boss on Nov 27, 2014 0:58:32 GMT
woah calm down guys, jus a game so chill out lol, jus playing no hard feelings guys. First of all igpay, you made a convo with Citrus to spy to tell me everything Ik bout fort and told me to not go harsh on igpay. Citrus, every scumhunt I have leads to you being scum so everytime you say something, ik it's a lie o backup it up by heard and everybody has acknowledged this. Both of you, im not dismissing your ideas but town cannot be so reckless to let you live, your death benefits more than keeping you alive as the poweroles can lead of the wrong way. Also the powerole that you claim seems to be so similar to AN ENDERMAN ROLE.
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