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Post by Clouds on Aug 5, 2023 4:00:18 GMT
that's what he's saying i think but i don't think this is great defense cause you would've had to bank on me voting pkq over ddlc which wasn't all that likely if you were reading into my messages. you leaning towards voting ddlc solidified the ddlc vote in my mind cause i figured if you were scum, you'd take the safe route and bus and then play for this exact F3. which means in a 1 scum pkq/ddlc cross and with you pushing ddlc, there was no avenue for ddlc to be town huh sorry im not following. i agree with what you are saying which is why i said i don't win by voting PKQ, but i see what you mean that this is a scenario that i could have been in as either a scum partner with ddlc or as a townie so that's fair my bad i misread this, i thought you were agreeing with his point for some reason but instead you're on the same page as me there - if you/ddlc is the team it's much safer for you to bus your partner at least vocally and then position yourself for a vote on him vs risk me/mc voting separately from you and making you next in the poe, which is game losing idk. how much of a villager are you on a scale of clemens to fame
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Post by Clouds on Aug 5, 2023 4:06:37 GMT
this is a nightmare F3 for me cause i always have a harder time reading crespo than virtually any other mafia player i play with and i think his path of making his main push clem while kinda nudging along votes like aka on the side when they already had momentum is more or less what s!crespo would do here - the discrepancy is that he did seem to focus on clem a lot more than would be beneficial for a mafia team as a whole
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Post by Clouds on Aug 5, 2023 4:16:04 GMT
sorry i was completely nonexistent here yesterday winsy more passive than ever. pov you're in a pov list and you go "ok ig i come back if i'm not dead", "clouds wants mvp wow", "chats dead" "Odds are against us, also something to consider is scum letting cyan die bcs they know that the next two flips in Poe leads to scum win" - winsy wasn't cyan deathday like pre volo or actual volo?? wouldn't scum rather get their win instantly?? why bother killing cyan?? winsy says next two flips = scum win but then proceeds to say it's themselves and clems as these 2 slots possible tmi of clems being town and winsy trying to shove themselves into a more townie position if winsy's not scum clems can definitely go for not having said anything of importance + cyan did this really lazy openwolf read on clems clems is only town in the case that cyan picked an lhf slot to push and scum cyan doesn't seem like he'd go for misvoting lhf townies was it a fucked up bus ?? (basing clems scumminess off cyan instead of clem's speech bc i can't read a guy who doesn't do things,,) yeah theres been like 30 mentions of "at least one of winsy and clems scum" question is who dies first pkq just woke up 2 seconds ago (pisx was sk, spiderz was town rber, and a bunch of vts died- aka fingerlings zeito kliff…? think theres some other deaths i mightve missed) ddlc woke up a while ago went back to sleep and woke up 2 seconds ago as well (do more shit) however cyan quoted "if i have ddlc/cyan flipped or something that's bad so i'm gonna hit the brakes for now, i want both to speak. cyan declaring a "cross of ddlc/zeito" means one of cyan/ddlc is gonna flip scum, at minimum" < this from clouds at some point and then immediately voted ddlc this is giving ddlc hard town vibes OR ddlc better scum death vibes and i am very conflicted on this i want jeff to come back rn and elaborate on that nka thing he said a while ago bc i still havent seen him do that clouds can i have some opinions on zeito and their cw (suddenly forgot who this was and i can't find the page on which it occured) on the day zeito got killed? feels like that was important as zeito was one of the "bad" slots in additn to winsy clems etc also i don't know if i think wape is townie because my brain keeps confusing wape with kliff (similar pfp colors) or if their posts are actually useful and contributing (even if it's replying to clouds 20 times) (tldr winsy vs clems + pkq ddlc jeff wake up pls) From them mentioning jeffery and pkq for only a sentence each makes me think they are likelier scum then winsy it seems like they are giving a softball question for jeff to respond too and having a positive helpful interaction with pkq for reasons. i feel like this is a substantial post here and this helped me a lot in realizing the solve was ddlc + 1 of pkq/jeffery when i looked back on it the two lines he's referencing here are: - "i want jeff to come back rn and elaborate on that nka thing he said a while ago bc i still havent seen him do that" - "pkq just woke up 2 seconds ago (pisx was sk, spiderz was town rber, and a bunch of vts died- aka fingerlings zeito kliff…? think theres some other deaths i mightve missed)" so naturally he reads these lines and sees one of them is about his partner, why do you both think he paired the other with holo the way he did here?
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Post by Clouds on Aug 5, 2023 5:14:08 GMT
pkq i'm asking your questions first i'll do bubidajeffery in a bit, maybe i'll come back to you both after that if i'm not satisfied. you should also both tell me why i should not vote you (: #1) you said you didn't know i was confirmed town but you had clearly responded to a post where i told you i was confirmed town at the start of the game and said "thank you for this", implying you read it. so why did you pretend you didn't know? #2) you also responded to a post i made when you first subbed in and said "wait who was sk" despite the post you quoted not confirming sk had died. what made you jump to the conclusion that sk had died before you had even read the game history? #3) were you hungover the morning that holocryptid got voted out? yes this is a serious question answer it honestly Our kind host dm me after I ask these questions so I was able to get a clear picture after skimming through stuff when I first subbed in. wait why?
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Post by Clouds on Aug 5, 2023 5:15:32 GMT
host wouldn't confirm things like me being confirmed town. did you reach out to ask questions to them too or did mmib just reach out to you? what exactly did you get clarification on?
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Post by Clouds on Aug 5, 2023 8:03:59 GMT
are you gonna answer the rest of it I didn't know what made your confirm town and I got clarification why and I was hungover tbh. wait bro what clarification from who
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Post by pkq on Aug 5, 2023 19:14:56 GMT
Also like I said before I was bold because you seem like you had the answer and the reason I question because I didn't know or I couldn't find at the time you was confirm bp I only saw confirm town.ok i mean i don't really know what to say there, you seemed to digest it the first time i told you i was bulletproof but maybe you glanced at that and responded despite not reading that i said bulletproof or something idk. i don't even think this is scummy if anything it's more of the opposite, so i won't get hung up on it. i just don't want to vote jeffery for the wrong reasons, so if you're town you gotta prove it to me somehow. maybe give some thoughts about things that happened this game, or talk about what you imagine mafia chat was like... whatever you can do TBH you might have a better chance to see if I am town from the person I sub for. Also when I got in the game you guys seem to have this semi solve so I really couldn't do anything. At best all I could do is look for alternate angles on who could be scum.
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Post by pkq on Aug 5, 2023 19:16:45 GMT
also how did jeffery "mind fuck" you when you never even aired a single town read on him all game? were you truly thrown off by how this played out? explain to me how your read of jeffery developed if you did tr him as you're implying While reading the game to myself I thought the chance of him being town was good so last night really fucked me tbh. Like I had reads but it wasn't concreate to tell everyone.
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Post by pkq on Aug 5, 2023 19:19:21 GMT
host wouldn't confirm things like me being confirmed town. did you reach out to ask questions to them too or did mmib just reach out to you? what exactly did you get clarification on? He said you claim bp in the game he didn't confirm you was one.
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Post by pkq on Aug 5, 2023 19:20:14 GMT
Like I was brief on what happen in the game that could be found in the game that I didn't bother reading.
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Post by Clouds on Aug 5, 2023 20:53:09 GMT
host wouldn't confirm things like me being confirmed town. did you reach out to ask questions to them too or did mmib just reach out to you? what exactly did you get clarification on? He said you claim bp in the game he didn't confirm you was one. i don't believe that a host wouldn't inform a player about someone else's claim in game so either a mafia teammate filled you in or you're just lying for no reason
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Post by Clouds on Aug 5, 2023 20:54:27 GMT
ok i mean i don't really know what to say there, you seemed to digest it the first time i told you i was bulletproof but maybe you glanced at that and responded despite not reading that i said bulletproof or something idk. i don't even think this is scummy if anything it's more of the opposite, so i won't get hung up on it. i just don't want to vote jeffery for the wrong reasons, so if you're town you gotta prove it to me somehow. maybe give some thoughts about things that happened this game, or talk about what you imagine mafia chat was like... whatever you can do TBH you might have a better chance to see if I am town from the person I sub for. Also when I got in the game you guys seem to have this semi solve so I really couldn't do anything. At best all I could do is look for alternate angles on who could be scum.yeah you didn't really do that
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Post by pkq on Aug 5, 2023 23:10:57 GMT
He said you claim bp in the game he didn't confirm you was one. i don't believe that a host wouldn't inform a player about someone else's claim in game so either a mafia teammate filled you in or you're just lying for no reason Believe what you want to believe then
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Post by pkq on Aug 5, 2023 23:11:18 GMT
TBH you might have a better chance to see if I am town from the person I sub for. Also when I got in the game you guys seem to have this semi solve so I really couldn't do anything. At best all I could do is look for alternate angles on who could be scum.yeah you didn't really do that I know
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Post by Clouds on Aug 5, 2023 23:13:11 GMT
i don't believe that a host wouldn't inform a player about someone else's claim in game so either a mafia teammate filled you in or you're just lying for no reason Believe what you want to believe then i believe you are mafia vote pkq
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Post by mymemoryisbad on Aug 5, 2023 23:24:37 GMT
Well, game is over, finally. Apologies for this scuffed game.
Anyways, PKQ was a Mafia Godfather.
Clouds was BP townie, Bubida was VT.
Thanks for playing. Will get points ‘n all that sorted, adjusting for cons.
GG Town.
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Post by Clouds on Aug 5, 2023 23:25:40 GMT
gg, no worries and thanks for host
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Post by bubidajeffery on Aug 6, 2023 0:11:31 GMT
we up
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Post by ®➕➕ on Aug 6, 2023 1:35:30 GMT
this was actually the best town play i've seen from an individual on ps proboards absolutely no idea how you didn't tilt given certain happenings
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Post by ®➕➕ on Aug 6, 2023 1:38:14 GMT
this was actually the best town play i've seen from an individual on ps proboards absolutely no idea how you didn't tilt given certain happenings
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Post by Clouds on Aug 6, 2023 10:09:25 GMT
lol thanks neo
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Post by winsytinsy on Aug 6, 2023 13:53:40 GMT
Woooo Good job clouds
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Post by winsytinsy on Aug 6, 2023 13:54:21 GMT
Way to clutch up
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Post by cyan on Aug 6, 2023 16:02:59 GMT
it is over
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Post by Fame on Aug 6, 2023 23:10:06 GMT
amazing game from clouds, gg wp
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