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Post by kliff on Nov 20, 2023 18:15:44 GMT
Hm Ill say something about this since I already put the time into meta diving. Based off 3 NOC games(1 !scum clouds, 2 !clouds town) that I played with them and primarily looking around the first 4 pages, They seems to enter into Day 1 more aggressively in a sense as scum, less aggressive as town. This Game as compared to other seems like they are way too passive / fillery here. Not sure what to make of it since I don't really know clouds scum meta here. If anyone has any thoughts about this I would like to hear them. Not entirely sure what it says about his alignment either but there's no reason to signpost that you're town and talk about how excited you are for this to be a good town game, Clouds usually factors in how someone else's alignment would inform their read on him so shoving the idea of being town into the thread is just weird because it's preoccupied with other people's read on you rather than understanding the game I see thanks for this, Yea I think can definitely sense "excitement" with their posting, I think it might be a early red flag. Not really sure. Hm Ill say something about this since I already put the time into meta diving. Based off 3 NOC games(1 !scum clouds, 2 !clouds town) that I played with them and primarily looking around the first 4 pages, They seems to enter into Day 1 more aggressively in a sense as scum, less aggressive as town. This Game as compared to other seems like they are way too passive / fillery here. Not sure what to make of it since I don't really know clouds scum meta here. If anyone has any thoughts about this I would like to hear them. just read countdown if you want to see an example, i haven't randed scum in any other game on this site except that one there's nothing i felt the need to sink my teeth into earlier, and i'd rather not flood thread with a bunch of half-baked thoughts or ones that i'm not completely convinced of being aggressive for the sake of being aggressive is not my playstyle as any alignment, i just got very caught up in the heat of things in the oc I wanted to separate OC from NOC, so I didn't really include it in my assessment. I understand the sentiment of not wanting to flood the chat with half-baked thoughts, but then again, I think it looks like you're just kind of messing around with a little serious play. Also In the Countdown game, you seemed more assertive and ready to solve. In the other two town games, I think you were more reactive and less bloodthirsty/aggressive compared to the Countdown game. At the moment, I think I am getting a power-wolfing vibe, similar to what I observed in the Countdown game. The difference appears to be that you are more passive/filler-y so far. Just a Hunch. what are you getting at here  |
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Post by Clouds on Nov 20, 2023 18:15:52 GMT
yea idk if its just me but I feel a bit conformable with the setup being 4v1v15. I dont think it should be too hard to create a pool of 5 players that has a decent wolf equity and vote in that pool for Day 1 which is usually the hardest stage of the game for me. I think equal to your clouds read fame this post feels like posturing rather than anything which is awkward considering im getting rand town vibes from kliff's other posts i'm not level with you on the kliff slot so far on a "vibes" basis. it seems like he chooses particularly weird pressure points to bring forward like peng's rvs vote on iavh, where it's harder for me to trace what the town motivation behind commenting on that is. what thoughts/posts were you thinking came across as rand town? a better way to describe the pressure points part is like, what makes a villager see that vote and have concerns about it & then comment on it vs the scum perspective of "here's a naked vote i can draw attention to because it's out in the cold open with nothing to back it up", and then the latter explanation sits a better with me slightly the same thing happened with the tommy2hands rvs vote as well also fame, i don't see how you're writing off kliff/tommy2hands off as s/s from those interactions. imagine how s!kliff looks pressuring s!tommy2hands for the rvs vote if tommy2hands was to flip mafia. the most informed always have the easiest time doing something like this, because they know they're commenting on a partner's vote before anyone else has the opportunity to there's nothing to suggest they are partnered yet but there's for sure nothing i see that would make me discount that as a possibility, and definitely not kliff's commentary on the vote |
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Post by kliff on Nov 20, 2023 18:19:14 GMT
I'm caught up, Dactyl is town specifically for the reason that I don't think scum would not be willing to draw attention in their first five posts Yea, I think agree with this |
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Post by Clouds on Nov 20, 2023 18:22:17 GMT
I'm caught up, Dactyl is town specifically for the reason that I don't think scum would not be willing to draw attention in their first five posts Yea, I think agree with this yeah i read this when om posted it & i have no idea what it's saying how exactly are you interpreting this |
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Post by kliff on Nov 20, 2023 18:26:48 GMT
Yea, I think agree with this yeah i read this when om posted it & i have no idea what it's saying how exactly are you interpreting this Based on Dactly's entrance and progression so far in the game, there is no hint of them trying to avoid drawing attention to themselves, which seems good in a towny way |
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Post by kliff on Nov 20, 2023 18:29:10 GMT
Unvote prodigu
Vote tommy2hands
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Post by Clouds on Nov 20, 2023 18:36:26 GMT
what are you getting at here yeah i get that much, but how is the peng iavh rvs vote enough fuel for you to translate it into a scumread it's impossible for me to have any thoughts on the peng slot so far & an unexplained rvs vote isn't out of character for him |
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Post by iavh on Nov 20, 2023 18:37:02 GMT
OK I EXIST PPL (cough cough OM)
do you know the thing called 'iavh moment' exists?
it can range from the smallest moments to the biggest moments. this one was a fairly large one.
I'll read up and post
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Post by Clouds on Nov 20, 2023 18:37:51 GMT
yeah i read this when om posted it & i have no idea what it's saying how exactly are you interpreting this Based on Dactly's entrance and progression so far in the game, there is no hint of them trying to avoid drawing attention to themselves, which seems good in a towny way k that's the closest to how i made sense of it, but how is dact trying to draw attention to himself would you say then |
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Post by iavh on Nov 20, 2023 18:38:30 GMT
smh why didn't I exist there |
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Post by Fame on Nov 20, 2023 18:38:32 GMT
Unvote prodigu
Vote tommy2hands How much do you believe in this vote hitting a scum slot |
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Post by Clouds on Nov 20, 2023 18:39:03 GMT
OK I EXIST PPL (cough cough OM) do you know the thing called 'iavh moment' exists? it can range from the smallest moments to the biggest moments. this one was a fairly large one. I'll read up and post why om specifically |
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Post by Fame on Nov 20, 2023 18:41:34 GMT
Something about Kliff voting there after what Clouds posted about Kliff/Tommy2Hands scum pairings seems theatrical, what is incentivising you to vote that slot at this point? Still the RV they threw out?
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Post by Clouds on Nov 20, 2023 18:44:17 GMT
Something about Kliff voting there after what Clouds posted about Kliff/Tommy2Hands scum pairings seems theatrical, what is incentivising you to vote that slot at this point? Still the RV they threw out? honestly was thinking the same but only because it would be his way of being like "hah look, we're not partners" by backing up his earlier sus with a vote more of a tinfoil so not willing to sit on the ledge, just caught my attention that he chose to vote that slot specifically |
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Post by iavh on Nov 20, 2023 18:45:39 GMT
I fear this is scum iavh btw last I played with town iavh he was so much more in every aspect uhh this post Clouds |
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Post by iavh on Nov 20, 2023 18:52:22 GMT
i have all the incentive to manufacture a push on iavh because frankly i haven't been around long enough to know if they've learned from our previous games and i am doubtful that they have slightly concerned about this vote that looks kinda opportunistic to yeet iavh, don't do that! b-baka! |
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Post by iavh on Nov 20, 2023 18:53:34 GMT
to this day I still don't understand how one uses pmeta to read people. as a very happy person (and definitely a Sagittarius), I play on mood.
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camryn
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it came to me in a delusion
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Post by camryn on Nov 20, 2023 19:01:06 GMT
Girl I don't feel like trying to quote things because I don't know how the bleep forums work usually but I'll post some brief thoughts here from my point of view! Please bare with me and my reads since this is my first proper mafia so not everything is bond to make perfect sense to y'all but like hi I exist!
- It seems like people want to vote iavh due to him trolling and not being very readable either way as a result, and I get that mindset because there is only so much you can go off of Day 1 so it makes sense to vote an anomaly here to get rid of a harder to read variable.
- I could be naive, but OM and Fame tentatively read as town to me at the moment. I feel like OM is actively questioning other people's reads as well as providing reads of his own and all of them seem to be grounded in reason, so he doesn't give scum to me. Fame I feel like is challenging things and the logic behind them questioning other people seem to be sound. It seems like Fame is trying to play for what would benefit town the most here by questioning votes and mulling over if they are logical/fair.
That's all I got for now it's hard for me properly analyze people's behaviors when I haven't played mafia with any of y'all before LOL
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Post by kliff on Nov 20, 2023 19:02:53 GMT
yeah i get that much, but how is the peng iavh rvs vote enough fuel for you to translate it into a scumread it's impossible for me to have any thoughts on the peng slot so far & an unexplained rvs vote isn't out of character for him I don't view them as scum reads per se, I'm just kind of trying to add people on my radar. I read people who I think might be town and people I watch to keep a eye on. I don't necessarily feel confrontable in making any scum reads until over 75% of the people. Same goes for pushing a vote. Based on Dactly's entrance and progression so far in the game, there is no hint of them trying to avoid drawing attention to themselves, which seems good in a towny way k that's the closest to how i made sense of it, but how is dact trying to draw attention to himself would you say then I don't think dactly is specifically trying to draw attention to themselves, I think they just progressed just seemed like a townie doing their thing. Unvote prodigu
Vote tommy2hands How much do you believe in this vote hitting a scum slot idk probably like 2.5% I think my vote sits better here for now. |
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Post by kliff on Nov 20, 2023 19:04:36 GMT
over 75%* of people have posted Decipherable content.*
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Post by OM~! on Nov 20, 2023 19:06:24 GMT
Yea, I think agree with this yeah i read this when om posted it & i have no idea what it's saying how exactly are you interpreting this in less vague terms I think Dactyl is town for stating intent to vote me within his first five posts |
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Post by OM~! on Nov 20, 2023 19:07:06 GMT
OK I EXIST PPL (cough cough OM) do you know the thing called 'iavh moment' exists? it can range from the smallest moments to the biggest moments. this one was a fairly large one. I'll read up and post you can exist better than you have
-om
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Post by Clouds on Nov 20, 2023 19:12:44 GMT
yeah i read this when om posted it & i have no idea what it's saying how exactly are you interpreting this in less vague terms I think Dactyl is town for stating intent to vote me within his first five posts checks because in reading back to try and find the source, that was the closest to what i would've called drawing attention & it broke slightly townie to me too ty for clarifying |
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Post by iavh on Nov 20, 2023 19:13:06 GMT
ok mate. that's funny. what a cracker.
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Post by iavh on Nov 20, 2023 19:13:21 GMT
damn got sniped
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