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Post by kliff on Dec 22, 2023 16:37:01 GMT
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Post by kliff on Dec 22, 2023 16:39:37 GMT
Does anything change about your read? After seeing this
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Post by kliff on Dec 22, 2023 16:45:36 GMT
I been thinking if myan progression on prod vote/read is townie progression or not, and im not sure.
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Post by Prodigu on Dec 22, 2023 16:48:38 GMT
Could i be wrong and misunderstanding? Yea. I got the impression that Schia wanted to express this to the rest of the PL because they said that it could be a worthwhile exercise to do, fwiw im taking into mind Tropicana and Classic here where Kliff was definitely misread as scum both times, as reasons for why Schia could be expressing this to the rest of the PL (note: Schia was not in Classic but Kliff was SR early there as well) if they were trying to express that then they would say it i think, and being misread in some games doesnt guarentee that theyre not scum here or some shit like that if thats what ur thinkng but even if its to the entire playerlist what does the line even do and what even makes that townie? Like scum can just say that as well on a random slot and it wouldnt be that hard, idt its ai at all since its so easy to do as both alignments even if the reason that they did it that u said is true Ill break this up into different parts to make it a little better 1) Yea im not saying that Kliff is town here because hes been misread in past games idt i expressed this but it wasnt a thought of mine here so clarifying on that is good here 2) What makes Schia townie off this is the big question for me to answer, i think as an overall based on their entrance (not just the one post in particular) Schia had a pretty good entrance into the thread that has me placing them in the town bucket rn. Its something easy for either alignment to say yea, at least the way im reading this is kind of an “I dont want Kliff to be misread so lets try to make better quality reads into his slot” which imo is actually something good to say. I guess i hadnt super read into the “this is a scum saying this about a town perspective” but i do think this is something that Schia doesnt have to say (i wanna express this “doesnt have to say” statement) as scum like i think theres a lot of others things they could say and if theyre scum knowing Kliffs been misread in past games i think its something not worth approaching here and just letting ppl misread Kliff.
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Post by kliff on Dec 22, 2023 16:48:47 GMT
Also am I the only one here to think clem might be scum here?
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Post by Prodigu on Dec 22, 2023 16:50:07 GMT
I been thinking if myan progression on prod vote/read is townie progression or not, and im not sure. Myan likes tunneling, so theyll probably tunnel me till im dead or theyre dead (at least from wut i remember about Myans preferences)
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Post by micromorphic on Dec 22, 2023 16:56:17 GMT
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Post by Fenrir on Dec 22, 2023 17:00:03 GMT
VOTECOUNT 1.2
Numbers in parentheses following a player's name reflect their current post count in the phase.
iamveryhappy (1)- kliff (19)
If the deadline was right now, a random player would be eliminated between Spiderz, Prodigu, and aligningstars.
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Post by kliff on Dec 22, 2023 17:09:18 GMT
I been thinking if myan progression on prod vote/read is townie progression or not, and im not sure. Myan likes tunneling, so theyll probably tunnel me till im dead or theyre dead (at least from wut i remember about Myans preferences) I don't think anything you did on the first two pages would warrant a death tunnel, lol.
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Post by slowthepoke on Dec 22, 2023 17:12:26 GMT
Tbh I dont mind if any of these players die, I think derz would be better as a slot that should be subbed but their wagon isnt horrible, its def worse than the other 2 tho.
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Post by slowthepoke on Dec 22, 2023 17:14:00 GMT
yeah clouds was saying a bit much had to shut them down a bit.
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Post by micromorphic on Dec 22, 2023 17:14:30 GMT
yeah clouds was saying a bit much had to shut them down a bit. ur a changed person...
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Post by slowthepoke on Dec 22, 2023 17:15:03 GMT
yeah clouds was saying a bit much had to shut them down a bit. ur a changed person... nah im the same
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Post by micromorphic on Dec 22, 2023 17:15:32 GMT
Anyway, I like aligningstar's slot so far, considering them searching for reads via fakeclaim & how other people view their slot. As for a little extra, I don't think aligning and stp flip together if one is scum, same with aligning and pisx. I am interested to hear what they're concealing from the rest of us, though, but I don't really want to force it like STP does.
I like how STP isn't dealing with any bullshit this game, but I don't see STP's problem with aligning's fakeclaim atm. The read they posted on aligningstars mentioning how they liked their "beginning" gameplay felt weird even though the only things aligning said before claiming mason were "first" and "lol", and other fillering posts. What exactly did you like about aligning's initial posts? And does your problem with aligining come more from the fakeclaim or the reads from it?
I'll go read up more on other slots now
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Post by micromorphic on Dec 22, 2023 17:18:30 GMT
You know, actually, after thinking about Prod, it'd actually be more concerning if they had more answers than questions atp, but I still agree with my initial point that you're lacking any real opinions outside of a few so-so posts Unvote Prodigu
Ngl out of all of the reasons anyone has ever given to vote me this is tbh one of the best reasons so far. Gonna just summarize some of my thoughts thus far and put them in a place together for myself to work off of (note i havent read more stuff / read into more stuff just yet) Town: Schia : Heavily based off thread entrance and first impressions but it has me leaning more of a Town!Schia here STP & Iavh : Unpartnered (placing this here in case either flips scum) Not gonna rehash the argument but another thought i had after the post was that i genuinely dont see a partner entering thread swinging at their own partner here Clouds & Fame: Ive read their early game conversation like two or three times so far, and for the life of me i cant get a good impression of my own thoughts on the matter fwiw i think this is either a tvt or a svs convo i do not think this is a svt conversation, a scum!Clouds and a scum!Fame could imo very realistically have had that conversation and its well within their own scum ranges to have done so. I feel like theres more to be said about this convo but im not sure what that is rn. However. Fames vote on me: Oddly i feel like this vote is coming more from a place of good faith rather than being “fake” I read this moreso as “I want you to be more active in the thread thus is why i am voting you” and “I have expected more from you so far and you havent done so” feels like Fame wants me to engage in the thread more than i have done so thus far instead of the feeling that Fame is trying to push me with mal intent so for this reasoning id say Fame and Clouds are likely town here aorn Gonna try to read a little and update as i go i kinda have a very light SR rn but dont wanna voice that in this post as i wanna take a look back and do a little bit of reading first before doing so Do you think Clouds and Fame have a better chance to be town and town or scum and scum?
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Post by micromorphic on Dec 22, 2023 17:22:29 GMT
trying to solve a bit ok so what we got mason, named townie iavh trying to setupsolve: town PRs: neapolitan (checks for vt), jk / doc (one should be in there if I'm not wrong given the abundantness of them encountering them in MS closed setups), gated investgative (os cop / gated tracker/watcher (2-3 shots)), maybe a vig though not counting on the chances of it (1-2 shot), other mason, +whatever fen decides to put here, I've seen hider in these I wonder if the mason is there as a red herring... looked really scummy to claim mason SoD1 scum PRs: roleblocker (most common), might be a neapolitan here, on the other hand could be a role cop. wonder if they would put a doc/jk here for a fakeclaim (looks smth like a not myan to do, myan cs is straightforward kek) that's my input for the day Honestly, posting "dont massclaim" to posting this is sorta wild, but I'm willing to listen. What does this information tell us and how does this change noting aligning's fakeclaim? And what are your reads on other people? (don't reply with just kliff please I already read that)
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Post by slowthepoke on Dec 22, 2023 17:23:40 GMT
Anyway, I like aligningstar's slot so far, considering them searching for reads via fakeclaim & how other people view their slot. As for a little extra, I don't think aligning and stp flip together if one is scum, same with aligning and pisx. I am interested to hear what they're concealing from the rest of us, though, but I don't really want to force it like STP does. I like how STP isn't dealing with any bullshit this game, but I don't see STP's problem with aligning's fakeclaim atm. The read they posted on aligningstars mentioning how they liked their "beginning" gameplay felt weird even though the only things aligning said before claiming mason were "first" and "lol", and other fillering posts. What exactly did you like about aligning's initial posts? And does your problem with aligining come more from the fakeclaim or the reads from it? I'll go read up more on other slots now Ok so I thought there original posts were fine when I thought they were mason but when I learned that they faked claimed it felt weird since it was rlly unnecesary and idt helped town at all. My MAIN problem with them comes with the reads after that however, there so dry and it looks super forced or like their trying to pocket, and they apperantely have more to say about it but wont say it today which puts me off bc whats the problem with sharing the info now, its not like its something from a pr its just a read, theres no real reason not to explain it unless u have info which they cant have since its d1.
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Post by Clouds on Dec 22, 2023 17:24:39 GMT
Yeah true but if micros town then we just end up having nothing for d2 as well which id rather not have. a vote is a mafia player's greatest weapon, slowthepoke
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Post by slowthepoke on Dec 22, 2023 17:25:48 GMT
Anyway, I like aligningstar's slot so far, considering them searching for reads via fakeclaim & how other people view their slot. As for a little extra, I don't think aligning and stp flip together if one is scum, same with aligning and pisx. I am interested to hear what they're concealing from the rest of us, though, but I don't really want to force it like STP does. I like how STP isn't dealing with any bullshit this game, but I don't see STP's problem with aligning's fakeclaim atm. The read they posted on aligningstars mentioning how they liked their "beginning" gameplay felt weird even though the only things aligning said before claiming mason were "first" and "lol", and other fillering posts. What exactly did you like about aligning's initial posts? And does your problem with aligining come more from the fakeclaim or the reads from it? I'll go read up more on other slots now Ok so I thought there original posts were fine when I thought they were mason but when I learned that they faked claimed it felt weird since it was rlly unnecesary and idt helped town at all. My MAIN problem with them comes with the reads after that however, there so dry and it looks super forced or like their trying to pocket, and they apperantely have more to say about it but wont say it today which puts me off bc whats the problem with sharing the info now, its not like its something from a pr its just a read, theres no real reason not to explain it unless u have info which they cant have since its d1. will seperate it to make it more clear Ok so I thought there original posts were fine when I thought they were mason but when I learned that they faked claimed it felt weird since it was rlly unnecesary and idt helped town at all.
My MAIN problem with them comes with the reads after that however, there so dry and it looks super forced or like their trying to pocket, and they apperantely have more to say about it but wont say it today which puts me off bc whats the problem with sharing the info now, its not like its something from a pr its just a read, theres no real reason not to explain it unless u have info which they cant have since its d1. And that line came before I saw that it was a fake claim which is why I immeditaly started questioning them after I saw it.
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Post by slowthepoke on Dec 22, 2023 17:27:19 GMT
Yeah true but if micros town then we just end up having nothing for d2 as well which id rather not have. a vote is a mafia player's greatest weapon, slowthepoke Ur right it is but since its the greatest weapon we need to use it well, atp we legit get no where from voting u esp if no one really did anything about it(which idt they would since u were so inactive)
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Post by Clouds on Dec 22, 2023 17:27:30 GMT
Anyway, I like aligningstar's slot so far, considering them searching for reads via fakeclaim & how other people view their slot. what makes you think he was searching for reads through the fakeclaim it seemed more like NAI trolling than anything else
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Post by slowthepoke on Dec 22, 2023 17:29:44 GMT
Anyway, I like aligningstar's slot so far, considering them searching for reads via fakeclaim & how other people view their slot. As for a little extra, I don't think aligning and stp flip together if one is scum, same with aligning and pisx. I am interested to hear what they're concealing from the rest of us, though, but I don't really want to force it like STP does. I like how STP isn't dealing with any bullshit this game, but I don't see STP's problem with aligning's fakeclaim atm. The read they posted on aligningstars mentioning how they liked their "beginning" gameplay felt weird even though the only things aligning said before claiming mason were "first" and "lol", and other fillering posts. What exactly did you like about aligning's initial posts? And does your problem with aligining come more from the fakeclaim or the reads from it? I'll go read up more on other slots now I mean yeah sure they have posted reads from the fake claim they got but like clouds said I think them creating reads from it is nai. (Esp since it was only town reads) and their reads suck(no reasonings)
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Post by micromorphic on Dec 22, 2023 17:34:04 GMT
Ok intersting, what info do u think u got from that! killf is easily town, you and cloud are my townlean Clouds aligningstars gaining reads via fakeclaim -> asking other players for their thoughts on their slot. I don't like their responses to STP & I'm very curious to hear what aligning is concealing but until then, I'll just wait. If the concealing stuff is not related to roles, though, my read will completely change
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Post by yoshman8 on Dec 22, 2023 17:35:02 GMT
I understand what yall are saying and I don't necessarily think they are scum, I'm just trying to make some good observations d1 that might help later
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Post by micromorphic on Dec 22, 2023 17:36:19 GMT
Anyway, I like aligningstar's slot so far, considering them searching for reads via fakeclaim & how other people view their slot. As for a little extra, I don't think aligning and stp flip together if one is scum, same with aligning and pisx. I am interested to hear what they're concealing from the rest of us, though, but I don't really want to force it like STP does. I like how STP isn't dealing with any bullshit this game, but I don't see STP's problem with aligning's fakeclaim atm. The read they posted on aligningstars mentioning how they liked their "beginning" gameplay felt weird even though the only things aligning said before claiming mason were "first" and "lol", and other fillering posts. What exactly did you like about aligning's initial posts? And does your problem with aligining come more from the fakeclaim or the reads from it? I'll go read up more on other slots now I mean yeah sure they have posted reads from the fake claim they got but like clouds said I think them creating reads from it is nai. (Esp since it was only town reads) and their reads suck(no reasonings) It is NAI because this is a CS but I don't scumread aligning for creating these reads and I like how they're trying to find a way to be productive through it, but yes reasonings would help.
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