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Post by iavh on Dec 31, 2023 3:34:26 GMT
ok nvm I can't read, there was a ub
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Post by Clouds on Dec 31, 2023 3:40:38 GMT
cuddleszz
aligningstars
C7
iamveryhappy
Fame
Schiavetto
starting here, top towniest but these are all of my townleans/reads atm. think mafia are outside of this but there's still some weirdness with the recent NKs that makes me question how two "confirmed town" keep surviving. peng being real town BG kinda explains that but not entirely, then i'd expect him to be thrown into the pool of possible kills or for mafia to just kill him to not have to worry about that variable moving forward. instead... he's survived two nights? and so have the two "mech clear" slots? so i'm not sure how much sense it makes for those two slots and peng to be town right now
outside of this list we have penguind, lindauna, passthesaltdude, and pisxel. this is what i'll see if i can sort first. i remember 1 interaction from PTSD & lindauna that made me think they weren't mafia together, so i doubt that's the team. those two slots are also both day 1 sub slots. i'm not positive i'm not townreading a mafia member yet, but i think this is a good starting point for where we should look first
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Post by Clouds on Dec 31, 2023 3:42:28 GMT
clouds-forced town result cause i need his vote wait, you sent this to me? |
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Post by Clouds on Dec 31, 2023 3:43:09 GMT
you're bleeding town anyways, probably would've been better off sending it to someone who could think you'd be mafia there
independent of mech it's clear you're not mafia
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Post by Clouds on Dec 31, 2023 3:44:47 GMT
also as a reminder micro was a vanilla cop, not an alignment cop -- any soft would just be whether or not someone is VT and i'm not sure that's even beneficial to soft, better to keep quiet unless he thinks his result was on mafia over town PR
i haven't seen anything so far regardless
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Post by C7 on Dec 31, 2023 3:46:29 GMT
clouds-forced town result cause i need his vote wait, you sent this to me? Oop that would explain why cuddlez got 2 results from a mystery source |
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Post by Clouds on Dec 31, 2023 3:51:40 GMT
stp is obviously the most town slot in this gamefmpov fame v clouds is probably tvt since theyre moreso asking e/o questions about intentions n such rather than flat out saying the other's scummy for whatever read they think is bs, or its svs and they're like precautionarily unpairing themselves & we're all being punked... but i'm more inclined to believe the former to be true no clue what to make of iavh's slot what was strong enough of a switch flip for you to go from this to voting STP? |
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Post by Clouds on Dec 31, 2023 3:52:19 GMT
wait, you sent this to me? Oop that would explain why cuddlez got 2 results from a mystery source i'm not sure i get it, did he claim that? i think it just explains why both of us got results saying cuddz is town, if cuddz has a role where he can confirm himself as town to 1 player a night or smth |
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Post by Clouds on Dec 31, 2023 3:55:02 GMT
im not really sure who to read right now, theres still a lot of inactive players what do you make of the current posts in the thread? are there any that you think are coming from a place of "trying to appear townie" rather than from a place of (town) sincerity? this is the 1 pisx & yoshman interaction i can trace back no response from yoshman here but he passed over a couple of my questions too, so, NAI that being said there's nothing preventing this interaction from being svs, in fact it has slight undertones of being svs |
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Post by Clouds on Dec 31, 2023 3:55:37 GMT
vote pisxel
let's try this for now and see what happens
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Post by Clouds on Dec 31, 2023 3:59:37 GMT
vote pisxellet's try this for now and see what happens to expand on this, there are some inconsistencies in her reads that make me unsure they're legitimate reads ex. calls STP top & most obvious town day 1, then pushes him day 2 and sparks a vote there there are also a couple townie moments which i don't want to fail to recognize because it's not all bad. like, call it weird, but i think asking for a votecount in thread -- more than once -- is vaguely townsided just because i'm used to mafia tracking votes and being aware of positioning in their own chat. that being said, this is a proboards game, so there's no reason to assume they'd 100% do that |
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Post by Clouds on Dec 31, 2023 4:03:59 GMT
i guess i'm leaning towards pisxel or penguind for the vote atm but i'm far from committed
peng's reason for scumreading me actually isn't... that unbelievable, despite being super shallow, but i shouldn't give him credit for it since it's not hard to fake as mafia
i just wouldn't be all that surprised if he truly did think i was mafia as town here
all of peng, cuddz, & aligningstars slots surviving is still weird af. not in the way where i'd vote the latter two, mech argues against that and cuddz is very townie despite aligningstars being kinda meh, but if mafia is afraid of BG protecting 1 of them despite needing to kill them, why not kill peng so you can break through them in future nights? why leave all three alive?
in a t!peng universe, they could be thinking peng would be a viable mislim so they wouldn't have to NK him. but they didn't do nearly a good enough job to make that happen if that was the case
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Post by Clouds on Dec 31, 2023 4:06:17 GMT
sometimes i daydream about how much easier these games would be to solve if everyone was an active poster
the ones where froggo isn't mafia of course
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Post by cuddleszz on Dec 31, 2023 4:13:20 GMT
my role just clears me to whoever is the recipient which is why im mechanicaly cleared town i cannot talk to masons vintage its not that neighbor role just same name
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Post by cuddleszz on Dec 31, 2023 4:17:08 GMT
also people asking for vote updates is just NAI in general. penguin should be the last suspected mafia member to be voted out this thread because of the Bg claim im fine with the solve or just outright vote out of pisx/lindauna until both start activity.
ptsd is just null to me until further more and why should we even suspect penguind as mafia here when the nks are just going to fall between me and penguind or alignstars since we are all like realisically the last fucking town prs alive still and if mafia is pisx/lindauna then micro nk makes sense since he voted and suspected yoshman8 first and even had the aforemetioned reads as well. he could have lowkey just been fearkilled. mafia is easily not working together from the looks of this game progression so yoshman8 being coached by another member is highly likely
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Post by C7 on Dec 31, 2023 4:27:51 GMT
Oop that would explain why cuddlez got 2 results from a mystery source i'm not sure i get it, did he claim that? i think it just explains why both of us got results saying cuddz is town, if cuddz has a role where he can confirm himself as town to 1 player a night or smth Could also just be a liar |
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Post by Clouds on Dec 31, 2023 4:55:26 GMT
i'm not sure i get it, did he claim that? i think it just explains why both of us got results saying cuddz is town, if cuddz has a role where he can confirm himself as town to 1 player a night or smth Could also just be a liar idts, him being kept alive is explainable for two reasons: - peng is bodyguard and mafia is afraid of him bodyguarding cuddz - peng is mafia claiming bodyguard and knows that cuddz dying would look awful for him cuddz's claim checks out with me. sending confirmation that you're town to 1 player a night seems reasonable, maybe with some limitations. cuddz, did you send this to anyone N3? |
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Post by Clouds on Dec 31, 2023 5:05:15 GMT
pause. mafia universal backup, yosh, turned themselves into an even night roleblocker, this would presumably be carried out N1 after myan flipped. if mafia had an even night roleblocker during N2, why would they not simply roleblock peng and go for a kill on cuddz or aligningstars? this kinda makes me think peng might not be BG. peng was forced to claim due to being lead wagon headed into N2 so an even night roleblocker would've known who to roleblock there
if mafia has an odd-night rolecop -- something i thought was plausible -- and rolecopped micro N1, then he would've died N2 in theory, but STP died instead. so we know mafia likely didn't rolecop micro N1, which means the only other time they could've done it was N2, which would mean some sort of even night rolecop or a rolecop that's active every night. alternatively, micro just wasn't copped and was killed for some other reason(s)
vote penguind
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Post by cuddleszz on Dec 31, 2023 5:12:01 GMT
or your just overthinking it and because of how it played out he was forced to claim bodyguard there and it just makes his position look worse for mafia to push later on into the game. and also like i said we can wait to vote out penguind if my narrative is wrong, first beforehand then vote out penguind id just rather not make the misplay of voting out a town PR here even if it was the most optimal play and you were correct during this time period.
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Post by Clouds on Dec 31, 2023 5:29:04 GMT
or your just overthinking it and because of how it played out he was forced to claim bodyguard there and it just makes his position look worse for mafia to push later on into the game. and also like i said we can wait to vote out penguind if my narrative is wrong, first beforehand then vote out penguind id just rather not make the misplay of voting out a town PR here even if it was the most optimal play and you were correct during this time period. yeah fair enough, if he is mafia it's just the right claim to make for survival so wp vote pisxel
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Post by C7 on Dec 31, 2023 5:59:45 GMT
Could also just be a liar idts, him being kept alive is explainable for two reasons: - peng is bodyguard and mafia is afraid of him bodyguarding cuddz - peng is mafia claiming bodyguard and knows that cuddz dying would look awful for him cuddz's claim checks out with me. sending confirmation that you're town to 1 player a night seems reasonable, maybe with some limitations. cuddz, did you send this to anyone N3? If Pass or Pisx come back and say the information I was looking for yesterday I will be mad but there is a reason joats were mentioned |
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Post by iavh on Dec 31, 2023 6:08:39 GMT
or your just overthinking it and because of how it played out he was forced to claim bodyguard there and it just makes his position look worse for mafia to push later on into the game. and also like i said we can wait to vote out penguind if my narrative is wrong, first beforehand then vote out penguind id just rather not make the misplay of voting out a town PR here even if it was the most optimal play and you were correct during this time period. yeah fair enough, if he is mafia it's just the right claim to make for survival so wp vote pisxel
weird post |
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Post by C7 on Dec 31, 2023 7:26:30 GMT
yeah fair enough, if he is mafia it's just the right claim to make for survival so wp vote pisxel
weird post why is it weird |
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Post by Fame on Dec 31, 2023 10:52:53 GMT
Right, good
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Post by Fame on Dec 31, 2023 10:53:30 GMT
No one mentioned the obvious that Yosh's ISO is absolutely reeking of TMI on town slots
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