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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 14, 2024 4:37:28 GMT
Um, I hard disagree with all that. Post 1. You said you'd answer any question asked your way- you failed. That was one I actually would've liked an answer on. I wanted you to evaluate your own play and I think that information would've been quite useful. Post 2. You literally put words into another player's mouth and I'm gonna call you out for that. Post 3. I didn't really see the explanation for the SR and neither did Clouds. Clouds asked you to explain more and you went "I already did". So I was questioning what part of what you said you viewed as the explanation for the SR- Which I'd like to point out I still haven't seen. DUDE WHAT IS THE QUESTION
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 14, 2024 4:38:48 GMT
IF YOU WANT TO ASK ME A QUESTION THEN AT LEAST TYPE A SENTENCE WITH A QUESTION MARK THAT'S MORE THAN ONE WORD
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 14, 2024 4:39:07 GMT
I literally don't understand why everyone is being so damn weird this game
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Post by Gary The Savage on Jan 14, 2024 4:39:09 GMT
Okay for the sake of time I'm just gonna ask. ForgotToFlush if you're uncertain about me and edj's interactions and you seemingly tr Clouds- surely it's best for you to vote Clouds now before a different vote surfaces? So, if this is the case I'm gonna push you to do that. Edjeanerations I think you'd do the same based on all that you've said with absolute hard scumread on me and belief Clouds is town it'd be the move for you as well. I'm calling a bluff. If Clouds is so certainly town- at least comparatively-, vote them. What the fuck? Why do you want FTF to vote Clouds? How does that help you at all. From what I've seen neither of you have wanted to get voted. Why is that? Why do you want Clouds to get voted and why do you want FTF to do it? Why haven't you voted him yourself? Why don't you vote FTF? I never said Clouds was town, I've said I'm really not sure what to say about him because I can't fully read him. I also said that I don't know how to read FTF because I didn't see a lot from him. So why do you keep saying that I'm tring Clouds when he's the only person who wasn't you that said anything of substance? Just because he's not a sr doesn't mean he's a TR I am town, edjeanerations. If Clouds is town, then that would mean you and FTF are scum. This helps me because in this case FTF could just be saying Clouds is town, but it's not in scum's best position to vote town. So I wanted him to follow his statements through and see if he was just stating it. Second, I'm sure both FTF and I would love to be voted. I'm sorry I don't beg and plead and get down on my knees for it. I'll play the game as it comes. Third, You said Clouds was the towniest of him, me, and FTF at a different point where I asked earlier and that you had thought he was town most of any other player? Would you like me to get that quote where you said something along those lines?
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Post by Clouds on Jan 14, 2024 4:39:15 GMT
ahh gdi man now that gary comment on ftf does look like it could be partnered despite prior ones looking less likely to be idk though. gary what is your actual take on ftf & edj as slots right now? is 1 better than the other, if so why, etc sidenote we know ftf is calling edj the scummiest so exploring universes real quick: - s!ftf & s!edj, ftf would need to be positioning to be voted and then have edj look decent enough as a result to escape the next vote - s!ftf & t!edj, ftf just attempting to not let edj get voted and cleared out, is pushing towards me as town so then he's making his wincon actively harder if he gets me cleared - t!ftf & s!edj, ftf is town and just thinks edj is mafia and is correct about it Personally I liked edj slightly more right now as a result of his pushes and I don't fully follow FTF's logic through his statements on mine and edj's interactions (which doesn't really seem like a push to me) I don't like edj's avoidance of questions and I don't like FTF's generalizations. okay but like purely on a pairing equity level, what do you actually think is the team here. you like edj a little more than ftf, you think i'm towniest, but edj & i couldn't both be town for you and you seem to be treating edj's slot as if you *don't* think he's town which is throwing me for a loop i've seen & heard your opinions, but i'm not sure how much i believe that you believe them yet
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Post by Gary The Savage on Jan 14, 2024 4:40:04 GMT
and my dog stepped on a bee i'm crying what is this sequence of events I was memeing the amber heard trial basically I'm questioning the relevance of what he said to the game
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Post by Gary The Savage on Jan 14, 2024 4:40:35 GMT
Um, I hard disagree with all that. Post 1. You said you'd answer any question asked your way- you failed. That was one I actually would've liked an answer on. I wanted you to evaluate your own play and I think that information would've been quite useful. Post 2. You literally put words into another player's mouth and I'm gonna call you out for that. Post 3. I didn't really see the explanation for the SR and neither did Clouds. Clouds asked you to explain more and you went "I already did". So I was questioning what part of what you said you viewed as the explanation for the SR- Which I'd like to point out I still haven't seen. DUDE WHAT IS THE QUESTION You literally have to read the own post that you just quoted
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Post by Clouds on Jan 14, 2024 4:41:19 GMT
man, no it doesn't. i thought you were the towniest player earlier in the game & just because i don't think this now doesn't mean i can't return there, i'm usually open minded yk that i don't know why you're doomer about me flipping town lol like that should be a good thing no? all you'd then have to do is get yourself cleared the motivation isn't lining up for me atm but i know you said it was a long day so i get it if you came back and just read that & were like "this guy is so wrong"Re bold: this is exactly what happened, idt I've read all of d6 yet bc I've kinda been skipping around since I was trying to select Gary's posts on mobile but it wasn't working When I said "the game ends if you flip town" that means that I have no more solving left to do, I didn't say it's a bad thing Also what has made you go from me being the towniest player to whatever you think of me now? Because I lost the happy-go-lucky attitude? I just really would like to know what makes either of them townier nah truthfully this recent conversation i'm not at all confident you're mafia you just have to understand from my perspective it's weird to see gary egging ftf into voting me and then ftf voting me in response to him like i'm thinking "in what universe do they achieve anything as a mafia team by doing this" but maybe that's the whole point of the interaction
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Post by Gary The Savage on Jan 14, 2024 4:42:09 GMT
IF YOU WANT TO ASK ME A QUESTION THEN AT LEAST TYPE A SENTENCE WITH A QUESTION MARK THAT'S MORE THAN ONE WORD The questions don't need to be more than one word. So what? and Did you? both create implications where you can provide the reasoning? So what does this mean? How do you view your own actions? Did you really do this? Can you show me where you explained the sr? I didn't know I had to write every word out for you
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Post by Clouds on Jan 14, 2024 4:42:36 GMT
as soon as i got back flush's posts (that he made after i was present) started raising more points of concern for me so it's really all in the blender atp
i liked the ones i read back in review better
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Post by Gary The Savage on Jan 14, 2024 4:43:00 GMT
Re bold: this is exactly what happened, idt I've read all of d6 yet bc I've kinda been skipping around since I was trying to select Gary's posts on mobile but it wasn't working When I said "the game ends if you flip town" that means that I have no more solving left to do, I didn't say it's a bad thing Also what has made you go from me being the towniest player to whatever you think of me now? Because I lost the happy-go-lucky attitude? I just really would like to know what makes either of them townier nah truthfully this recent conversation i'm not at all confident you're mafia you just have to understand from my perspective it's weird to see gary egging ftf into voting me and then ftf voting me in response to him like i'm thinking "in what universe do they achieve anything as a mafia team by doing this" but maybe that's the whole point of the interaction For the record I was holding both edj and ftf to this. Only 1 has followed through
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Post by Clouds on Jan 14, 2024 4:43:22 GMT
IF YOU WANT TO ASK ME A QUESTION THEN AT LEAST TYPE A SENTENCE WITH A QUESTION MARK THAT'S MORE THAN ONE WORD The questions don't need to be more than one word. So what? and Did you? both create implications where you can provide the reasoning? So what does this mean? How do you view your own actions? Did you really do this? Can you show me where you explained the sr? I didn't know I had to write every word out for you what in the ever living hell am i reading
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Post by Clouds on Jan 14, 2024 4:44:19 GMT
i'm crying what is this sequence of events I was memeing the amber heard trial basically I'm questioning the relevance of what he said to the game aahhhh yeah okay now i see the reference
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Post by Gary The Savage on Jan 14, 2024 4:44:31 GMT
Personally I liked edj slightly more right now as a result of his pushes and I don't fully follow FTF's logic through his statements on mine and edj's interactions (which doesn't really seem like a push to me) I don't like edj's avoidance of questions and I don't like FTF's generalizations. okay but like purely on a pairing equity level, what do you actually think is the team here. you like edj a little more than ftf, you think i'm towniest, but edj & i couldn't both be town for you and you seem to be treating edj's slot as if you *don't* think he's town which is throwing me for a loop i've seen & heard your opinions, but i'm not sure how much i believe that you believe them yet I think for me it's best to see your flip and play the game from there. If you are town, then I know certainly its s!edj and s!ftf and simply have to convince I'm the town from there, and with 2 days to it. If you flip scum, I can then process which of edj and ftf is the other town, and I'd probably lean edj- especially with ftf following through on the vote.
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jan 14, 2024 4:45:01 GMT
back after inexplicably disappearing
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Post by Gary The Savage on Jan 14, 2024 4:45:10 GMT
The questions don't need to be more than one word. So what? and Did you? both create implications where you can provide the reasoning? So what does this mean? How do you view your own actions? Did you really do this? Can you show me where you explained the sr? I didn't know I had to write every word out for you what in the ever living hell am i reading All 3 are examples used in the 3 quote post edj used of me saying all posts were useless to the game
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Post by Clouds on Jan 14, 2024 4:45:29 GMT
nah truthfully this recent conversation i'm not at all confident you're mafia you just have to understand from my perspective it's weird to see gary egging ftf into voting me and then ftf voting me in response to him like i'm thinking "in what universe do they achieve anything as a mafia team by doing this" but maybe that's the whole point of the interaction For the record I was holding both edj and ftf to this. Only 1 has followed through but... why
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 14, 2024 4:45:39 GMT
By the way when I read this it seems that you're hesitant to townread Clouds, hesitant to townread me but possibly thinking of pushing me if things come down to it, and *refusing to scumread FTF* (using asterisks because I don't remember how to do italics on mobile). Either way, the way you're talking about us makes it sound like you already have a plan for this game. I'm also getting a vibe that you're hesitant to scumread FTF 1. Because you're his partner and you just don't want to push him or 2. Because you want him to be your ace in the hole if me or Clouds get voted. Then again, I did this somewhat to Yosh last game (who also didn't speak a lot) because someone who comes into the game and sees that they're tred by someone (or at least town by poe) is gonna want to keep that person alive. Either way it sounds like TMI to me 1. Are you confident to call Clouds town? I'm not hesitant to townread Clouds, I'm hesitant to write him off as town and be convinced of it. 2. For you the same applies. The only thing is I know only 1 of you can be town rn, and for all I care that could be FTF. It could be s!Clouds and s!edj. I'm not hesitant to read any player in this game. But what I don't want to do is call them a certain alliance and then tunnel myself down a path where I have to convince myself that they are that alliance. If I'm forcing myself to commit somebody to a certain alliance, it probably isn't the right thing to do. 3. Are you confident to call FTF scum? I've stated before primarily its a lack of activity and I'm simply not convinced by the points already brought up about him. 4. "You want him to be your ace in the hole if me or Clouds gets voted"- This here seemingly implies that you've not only written me off as scum, you've written FTF off as scum with me? If this is the case how can you be so confident, especially when considering Clouds thoughts towards me? What I'm getting at here is what makes you so sure it's s!Gary and s!FTF and not s!Gary and s!Clouds? Why not? Has my little content and reading of FTF convinced you it MUST be me and FTF? And I don't wanna here this "reads can change" bullshit. Yeah, they can. But this is something else. You're so sold on me for God knows what reason but I really don't know where to take this from here. 5. Me this game is not you last game. Nor can I control when FTF comes online as I am not FTF. 6. Hot Question: What does TMI even mean in Mafia context? Like when did we start using it kek 1. You're hesitant to call him town yet you want FTF to push him? Okay, makes sense 2. Okay so I'm scum with Clouds. That's why you want him voted? Okay, makes sense 3. I'm not confident to call FTF scum, I need to go through his iso to see if there's anything of worth there 4. I was explaining possibilities based on how you wrote that post, I was saying that the way you wrote it seemed like you already had something set. So yes if you are scum then it seems you had some sort of plan set up with FTF in mind. It's either making him seem like a partner because he's the town and would get voted off or he actually is the partner and you're legit maing a plan 5. Whatever 6. Are you asking me? TMI in that context means I think you had information on the game and you're trying to plan something with it
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Post by Gary The Savage on Jan 14, 2024 4:47:11 GMT
For the record I was holding both edj and ftf to this. Only 1 has followed through but... why Why did I hold them both to this? Because they'd both called you town and wanted to see if they'd follow through with it before another vote surfaced. Like nothing stopped any of us voting someone else, and I was saying if they are town its best they vote before scum could theoretically just plant a vote and likely get plur on it, and it worked as they both presumed you as the next best option outside of themselves.
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 14, 2024 4:47:18 GMT
What the fuck? Why do you want FTF to vote Clouds? How does that help you at all. From what I've seen neither of you have wanted to get voted. Why is that? Why do you want Clouds to get voted and why do you want FTF to do it? Why haven't you voted him yourself? Why don't you vote FTF? I never said Clouds was town, I've said I'm really not sure what to say about him because I can't fully read him. I also said that I don't know how to read FTF because I didn't see a lot from him. So why do you keep saying that I'm tring Clouds when he's the only person who wasn't you that said anything of substance? Just because he's not a sr doesn't mean he's a TR I am town, edjeanerations. If Clouds is town, then that would mean you and FTF are scum. This helps me because in this case FTF could just be saying Clouds is town, but it's not in scum's best position to vote town. So I wanted him to follow his statements through and see if he was just stating it. Second, I'm sure both FTF and I would love to be voted. I'm sorry I don't beg and plead and get down on my knees for it. I'll play the game as it comes. Third, You said Clouds was the towniest of him, me, and FTF at a different point where I asked earlier and that you had thought he was town most of any other player? Would you like me to get that quote where you said something along those lines? IF YOU ARE TOWN THEN WHY ARE YOU NOT TRYING TO GET VOTED?? I'm not saying you have to badger people like I do but I can't recall even once where you said "I'm the best option today" or "I should be the vote today." In my eyes the townies should be trying to get voted just as much as Mafia is, but the weird thing is that Clouds seems to be the only one fine with being voted other than me
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Post by Clouds on Jan 14, 2024 4:48:02 GMT
If you flip scum, I can then process which of edj and ftf is the other town, and I'd probably lean edj- especially with ftf following through on the vote. k so you're saying if i was mafia then ftf would be the more likely partner to me because he'd have leveraged your offer for him to vote me as an excuse to vote his partner
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jan 14, 2024 4:48:15 GMT
man what the fuck
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 14, 2024 4:48:20 GMT
I'm sorry I think I'm legitimately getting heated talking to Gary rn so I'm just gonna focus on reading FTF's iso
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jan 14, 2024 4:48:51 GMT
okay edje thought experiment if the vote doesnt go through on you then who's your second choice
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Post by Clouds on Jan 14, 2024 4:49:28 GMT
the more edj and gary talk the more i want to call ftf scum due to unpartnering but ay...
this would be the time to pull out all the theatrics cards
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