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Post by Prodigu on Feb 23, 2024 0:53:18 GMT
Okay so after this I will figure out how to vote, as much as I wanna vote Realiti ill likely end up securing on Scept unless I can get a good reason on why STP is a better vote here? Also want to look at STP and Scepts interaction more closely bc I can def see a world where it is a TvS and people are just super eager to pair them. Specifically Scept flips scum here i'd be wary to see who and how many people push STP off of it. Anyways that is irrelevant to this post we should just continue this wagon again, the three voters (me/clouds/OM) on it yesterday should all be town and scum would more likely place votes on townies than their partners EoD yesterday vote @sceptorusThis is just like, leaves a bad taste in my mouth like a shit sandwich yk? It feels like prod is lumping himself in with other big town names that havent faced much pushback just because of a vote on Scept, and him continuing to push it here without much reason feels like Realiti is pushing scept out of obligation to stick to his previous vote and not because he has real info on the slot. Fame's D1 was honestly super disapponting but I will have to read his posts today. For people familiar with his meta, is he an easy read / is this in his scum range? Realiti never offered much follow through on this, and this post feels less genuine and more like someone trying to cast doubt on big slots. Someone called out Schia earlier for pushing big productive town names, and I do not see what realiti is doing here is any different. Also I dont love the style of asking someone else questions about a slot and their scum range because generally speaking it feels like Realiti is using the question to gauge others opinion on the slot before he commits to a read which feels scum indicative of Realiti not wanting to push fame if there isnt support there. Yeah I think Spiderz' reads have been really bad tbh, his tone seems towny but I also haven't played a game with him where he was scum Given how differently you've played this game compared to the EiMM/MU knights errant game and mindmelding with you on voting Fame/disliking Spiderz I am putting you in the townpool Don't like Fame's recent posts because they all seem like very shallow, safe level 1 reasoning Im not like an expert on mafia, but this is just a pocket right? Realiti is just copying Schias reads then just calling it a mindmeld. Like at least Schias push on big active slots is coming from a place of reasoning, and it feels more like its coming from a town place because it feels more risky for a scum schia to be pushing the biggest named slots so early. On the contrary it feels very within scum range for Realiti to sheep schia on these big reads, that way if the big slots flip town Realiti can always fall back on blaming Schia and holding 0 accountability Im reading all the active people as town but not sure how accurate that actually is This just feels lazy and noncommittal. This may be a personal thing but I am not a fan of vague general reads with no reasoning that then come with doubt of "but idk how true that is". Like something feels off about making a vague read and then doubting yourself, its like you want towncred but you dont want to upset anyone here. It feels way too passive esp from a slot that was just talking about Fame/Derz being potential scum here. yeah I think he's town too now. think the scum are afk Very similar to the above, just feels lazy and very common scum tactic to avoid the main group and instead pushing AFK and slots that arent controversial. The lack of reasoning coming from the Scept vote besides it being a weird AFK slot leaves a weird taste in my mouth, and atm I think if Scept flips scum, realiti could have def bussed and when they try and towncore themselves for it. Please dont let them this is actually a good post I'll move myan to townlean This feels so off when Realiti made a big deal about AFK slots and even pressured Myan for not coming besides for events. This instant TR based on little reasoning feels very much like Realiti asked Myan to say something townie in scumchat, just so that Realiti had an excuse to not push Myan as an afk slot. ok soooo abdcas omgus response was towny and super funny but stp is actually right in that he scumread abcda earlier in the game does town stp ever play like this, is he always this abrasive? I lowkey wanna just vote scept and call it a day The abcaba read feels super unattural and I do not feel like dissecting it anymore bc I have already done so much and it should be clear to anyone reading why their TR on Abcaba feels forced because their main reasoning is just "oh they claimed commute" which Animal touched on is not a good or solid reasoning to townlean someone as hard as realiti is. Also peep realiti asking questions again that direct discussion in a certain place while also taking heat off realiti to form a real read on STPs slot. I feel like aligningstars being afk is not a good look considering how engaged he was in advent Last thing bc I refreshed page, but once again we have Realiti setting up reads on AFK slots that do not feel productive or nuanced. The read itself just feels not genuine bc I feel like after three seconds of thinking one could reason "Maybe aligning is just busy and has a different schedule now than advent" or "Advent was a 17 player game, and this is a 30 player game that is much more demanding" it just feels like there was little thought behind this read Also im currently listening to Boy Genius, wearing Doc Martens, and wearing Cargo pants. Im in peak bisexuality rn please do not mess with me, I am too powerful off a force to mess with. lmao, you didnt make this entire post to claim you would secure plur on Scept, and try to hard case Realiti, and then backed up on Realiti later when you knew it wasnt going anywhere, and also never voted to secure on Scept Bolded: why were you already planning on Scept flipping scum here over STP being scum instead? |
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Post by Prodigu on Feb 23, 2024 1:03:19 GMT
btw, if anyone would like to take a look back, PTSD has not voted a single time in this entire game. Not Once. I looked back at every single post hes made this game and not one time has he voted, like you dont need to take my word for it, feel free to look back
Ptsd, youve very definitely had an opinion this game on who should flip / who shouldnt, is there a reason you chose to never vote? Like, idg it
You also like said several times in thread that you would look at other posts and come back to them and just.... never did this either..... I dont think this is a huge thing, as i sometimes do it as town / scum but i very definitely do it more as scum to fake activity
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Post by Prodigu on Feb 23, 2024 1:05:34 GMT
I mean A- Ani was faked poison, and im the only heal B- There is multiple poisons in game (At least 2) and to counter that there is multiple poison heals. It doesnt feel explicitly out of the question here Hmm, A) if youre the only heal and OM is also claiming heal then why arent you saying that OM is scum here then if the first premise is true, also why does this first premise assume Ani was healed? B) one of these poisons is known to be from Town and the other is very very definitely from scum seeing as it hasnt been claimed, also theres 3 Town KP roles in game Mine, Edjs, and CAs i think a 4th is out of the question imho Im ngl, i think mafia having a poison healer isnt out of the question either if someone in the mafia got poisoned er the A part is supposed to read why does it assume Ani was faked poison and why was Peng poison real ie: why couldnt Pengs poison be fake and Anis poison be real |
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Post by AligningStars on Feb 23, 2024 1:06:32 GMT
Hmm, A) if youre the only heal and OM is also claiming heal then why arent you saying that OM is scum here then if the first premise is true, also why does this first premise assume Ani was healed? B) one of these poisons is known to be from Town and the other is very very definitely from scum seeing as it hasnt been claimed, also theres 3 Town KP roles in game Mine, Edjs, and CAs i think a 4th is out of the question imho Im ngl, i think mafia having a poison healer isnt out of the question either if someone in the mafia got poisoned er the A part is supposed to read why does it assume Ani was faked poison and why was Peng poison real ie: why couldnt Pengs poison be fake and Anis poison be real good point |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Feb 23, 2024 1:07:12 GMT
Votecount 3.1.1
If the deadline were to hit, passthesaltdude would be voted out.
4 hours remain.
Message me if there's an issue with the votes.
(3) @passthesaltdude: @omroom, @aligningstars, @slowthepoke
(1) @cuddleszz: @bowlingpokeballs
(1) @spiderz: @animalmidwife
(11) Not Voting: @kliff, @litteleven, @abdel, @clemensthelemon, @spiderz, @prodigu, @passthesaltdude, @cuddleszz, @fort, @yashgreninja, @thunderballz
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Post by kliff on Feb 23, 2024 1:28:59 GMT
GM, I am exhausted. I have read up and can confirm that I was RB'd last night. That's why I'm pretty sure PenguinD died last night. Other than that I got no result from my other action last night. I have been really busy so I haven't hade time to like read into things but I'm feeling better about everyone who joined the death event. Im curious how everyone feels about Myans hesitancy to join, I feel like there's some good insight there along with Realiti's result that I think Myan is the best slot to look into today. So we know there 2 minimal poisoners in the game, 1 has been flipped as town align I don't think in a 2 poisoner setup really calls for two town poisoners. I mean if the poisoner is not apart of the mafia faction then I guess I could see there be a Mafia Poison healer. but then What would be the !scum angle for passthesalt here with this post? town cred? don't think that the case cause I don't think you were ever in a position to fish for some town points by claiming poison healer. Pass what's ya role btdubs Poison doc + Investigative + Hidden aspect This sounds pretty powerful, are any of them X-shot? |
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Post by passthesaltdude on Feb 23, 2024 1:34:52 GMT
I mean A- Ani was faked poison, and im the only heal B- There is multiple poisons in game (At least 2) and to counter that there is multiple poison heals. It doesnt feel explicitly out of the question here Hmm, A) if youre the only heal and OM is also claiming heal then why arent you saying that OM is scum here then if the first premise is true, also why does this first premise assume Ani was healed? B) one of these poisons is known to be from Town and the other is very very definitely from scum seeing as it hasnt been claimed, also theres 3 Town KP roles in game Mine, Edjs, and CAs i think a 4th is out of the question imho Im ngl, i think mafia having a poison healer isnt out of the question either if someone in the mafia got poisoned This was before OM claimed heal ftr, and when he did he got conf from other players that he was heal. (I believe he said Kliff and STP knew he had a heal). Also the first premise assumes Ani was fake poisoned if I was the only heal, because Ani did not die. Once again its a mash game with complex mech stuff, so I wouldnt be surprised if there was more than 2 poisons here. or if there are 2 poison heals. I just think most of the reads on me are coming from a pseudo-mech standpoint when we dont know the setup and most people are relying on speculation. Im also concerned with everyone pointing blame at me without actually voting me here. (Which looking back is something I have done, and I can acknowledge that. Im going to be so honest, 1/3 of it comes from me being to lazy to learn how to vote, 1/3 of it comes from me not knowing the vote count half the time/ there isnt an accurate or update one so its hard for me to commit, and for the first part of today I genuinely meant to vote but got sidetracked with everything else. |
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Post by passthesaltdude on Feb 23, 2024 1:37:43 GMT
It was something clouds has said that implied he knew PenguinD was town from something that I had caught. It just felt like the more solid town from a mech standpoint, ill quote it rq So does this mean you thought Ani was more likely to be scum here then Peng? Ik the thing youre talking about but Clouds specifically stated that Mafia just leave the thread, Ani and Peng both didnt they were still in the thread so the point youre trying to make here just applies to both of them not Peng over Ani. Realistically Peng would likely contribute less than Ani would so id say argubably Ani was the better heal I honestly had been much more focused on Realitil/Schia other slots that day that I didnt see nearly as much from Ani/PenguinD. I think ultimately for me PenguinD just felt like the better heal with the reasoning I had seen on that slot being town. |
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Post by passthesaltdude on Feb 23, 2024 1:42:19 GMT
Okay so after this I will figure out how to vote, as much as I wanna vote Realiti ill likely end up securing on Scept unless I can get a good reason on why STP is a better vote here? Also want to look at STP and Scepts interaction more closely bc I can def see a world where it is a TvS and people are just super eager to pair them. Specifically Scept flips scum here i'd be wary to see who and how many people push STP off of it. Anyways that is irrelevant to this post This is just like, leaves a bad taste in my mouth like a shit sandwich yk? It feels like prod is lumping himself in with other big town names that havent faced much pushback just because of a vote on Scept, and him continuing to push it here without much reason feels like Realiti is pushing scept out of obligation to stick to his previous vote and not because he has real info on the slot. Realiti never offered much follow through on this, and this post feels less genuine and more like someone trying to cast doubt on big slots. Someone called out Schia earlier for pushing big productive town names, and I do not see what realiti is doing here is any different. Also I dont love the style of asking someone else questions about a slot and their scum range because generally speaking it feels like Realiti is using the question to gauge others opinion on the slot before he commits to a read which feels scum indicative of Realiti not wanting to push fame if there isnt support there. Im not like an expert on mafia, but this is just a pocket right? Realiti is just copying Schias reads then just calling it a mindmeld. Like at least Schias push on big active slots is coming from a place of reasoning, and it feels more like its coming from a town place because it feels more risky for a scum schia to be pushing the biggest named slots so early. On the contrary it feels very within scum range for Realiti to sheep schia on these big reads, that way if the big slots flip town Realiti can always fall back on blaming Schia and holding 0 accountability This just feels lazy and noncommittal. This may be a personal thing but I am not a fan of vague general reads with no reasoning that then come with doubt of "but idk how true that is". Like something feels off about making a vague read and then doubting yourself, its like you want towncred but you dont want to upset anyone here. It feels way too passive esp from a slot that was just talking about Fame/Derz being potential scum here. Very similar to the above, just feels lazy and very common scum tactic to avoid the main group and instead pushing AFK and slots that arent controversial. The lack of reasoning coming from the Scept vote besides it being a weird AFK slot leaves a weird taste in my mouth, and atm I think if Scept flips scum, realiti could have def bussed and when they try and towncore themselves for it. Please dont let them This feels so off when Realiti made a big deal about AFK slots and even pressured Myan for not coming besides for events. This instant TR based on little reasoning feels very much like Realiti asked Myan to say something townie in scumchat, just so that Realiti had an excuse to not push Myan as an afk slot. The abcaba read feels super unattural and I do not feel like dissecting it anymore bc I have already done so much and it should be clear to anyone reading why their TR on Abcaba feels forced because their main reasoning is just "oh they claimed commute" which Animal touched on is not a good or solid reasoning to townlean someone as hard as realiti is. Also peep realiti asking questions again that direct discussion in a certain place while also taking heat off realiti to form a real read on STPs slot. Last thing bc I refreshed page, but once again we have Realiti setting up reads on AFK slots that do not feel productive or nuanced. The read itself just feels not genuine bc I feel like after three seconds of thinking one could reason "Maybe aligning is just busy and has a different schedule now than advent" or "Advent was a 17 player game, and this is a 30 player game that is much more demanding" it just feels like there was little thought behind this read Also im currently listening to Boy Genius, wearing Doc Martens, and wearing Cargo pants. Im in peak bisexuality rn please do not mess with me, I am too powerful off a force to mess with. lmao, you didnt make this entire post to claim you would secure plur on Scept, and try to hard case Realiti, and then backed up on Realiti later when you knew it wasnt going anywhere, and also never voted to secure on Scept Bolded: why were you already planning on Scept flipping scum here over STP being scum instead? For the bolded part its supposed to read as "If" like proposing a hypothetical for being careful of people trying to Push Scept VS STP as SvS which is then something that happened right after. Also I addressed it a little earlier but with new voting stuff and me getting hyper distracted between forums and irl stuff I just always got sidetracked before voting + Me never really being aware of votecounts Also I backed on the realiti read specifcally bc of the Scept flip, other peoples reasoning, and after looking at Realiti in advent. I tend to backtrack on reads I make that I feel like dont hold merit, I did it last game and got instant voted for it. Its mainly me trying to like have real progressions on slots and react to active feedback on stuff. |
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Post by passthesaltdude on Feb 23, 2024 1:44:43 GMT
btw, if anyone would like to take a look back, PTSD has not voted a single time in this entire game. Not Once. I looked back at every single post hes made this game and not one time has he voted, like you dont need to take my word for it, feel free to look back Ptsd, youve very definitely had an opinion this game on who should flip / who shouldnt, is there a reason you chose to never vote? Like, idg it You also like said several times in thread that you would look at other posts and come back to them and just.... never did this either..... I dont think this is a huge thing, as i sometimes do it as town / scum but i very definitely do it more as scum to fake activity Ive already addressed the vote thing and like, I understand it sounds sketchy. but im so serious I just have not been proactive about learning how to vote, nor have I ever been conscious enough of current votals to make a confident vote. +Sometimes I tell myself im gonna vote, and then ADHD brain leads to distractions and I end up just forgetting Also the last part is straight up NAI, its called me being swamped with work and not having the mental energy to do anything. If being mentally drained is scummy, do not vote me- instead vote against the American Higher Education/ University system. |
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Post by AligningStars on Feb 23, 2024 1:46:53 GMT
btw, if anyone would like to take a look back, PTSD has not voted a single time in this entire game. Not Once. I looked back at every single post hes made this game and not one time has he voted, like you dont need to take my word for it, feel free to look back Ptsd, youve very definitely had an opinion this game on who should flip / who shouldnt, is there a reason you chose to never vote? Like, idg it You also like said several times in thread that you would look at other posts and come back to them and just.... never did this either..... I dont think this is a huge thing, as i sometimes do it as town / scum but i very definitely do it more as scum to fake activity Ive already addressed the vote thing and like, I understand it sounds sketchy. but im so serious I just have not been proactive about learning how to vote, nor have I ever been conscious enough of current votals to make a confident vote. +Sometimes I tell myself im gonna vote, and then ADHD brain leads to distractions and I end up just forgetting Also the last part is straight up NAI, its called me being swamped with work and not having the mental energy to do anything. If being mentally drained is scummy, do not vote me- instead vote against the American Higher Education/ University system. excuses |
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Post by passthesaltdude on Feb 23, 2024 1:49:57 GMT
GM, I am exhausted. I have read up and can confirm that I was RB'd last night. That's why I'm pretty sure PenguinD died last night. Other than that I got no result from my other action last night. I have been really busy so I haven't hade time to like read into things but I'm feeling better about everyone who joined the death event. Im curious how everyone feels about Myans hesitancy to join, I feel like there's some good insight there along with Realiti's result that I think Myan is the best slot to look into today. So we know there 2 minimal poisoners in the game, 1 has been flipped as town align I don't think in a 2 poisoner setup really calls for two town poisoners. I mean if the poisoner is not apart of the mafia faction then I guess I could see there be a Mafia Poison healer. but then What would be the !scum angle for passthesalt here with this post? town cred? don't think that the case cause I don't think you were ever in a position to fish for some town points by claiming poison healer. Poison doc + Investigative + Hidden aspect This sounds pretty powerful, are any of them X-shot? Poison Heal is not, the only thing is only heals it doesnt like prevent poison Investigate was an OS gunsmith (detect to see if my target could kill) I tried using it on Myan specifically because of how there was already suspicion of their slot going into N2 and how generally their forum presence felt off in a way i wanted to look into. Thats why i entered the thread today saying I wanted people to look Myans slot more closely because I already had that read their |
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Post by passthesaltdude on Feb 23, 2024 1:52:41 GMT
er the A part is supposed to read why does it assume Ani was faked poison and why was Peng poison real ie: why couldnt Pengs poison be fake and Anis poison be real good point PenguinD was claimed to be poisoned by CA and PenguinD died exactly when poison said they would. We had real confirmation Peng was poisoned ftr |
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Post by passthesaltdude on Feb 23, 2024 1:58:10 GMT
Ive already addressed the vote thing and like, I understand it sounds sketchy. but im so serious I just have not been proactive about learning how to vote, nor have I ever been conscious enough of current votals to make a confident vote. +Sometimes I tell myself im gonna vote, and then ADHD brain leads to distractions and I end up just forgetting Also the last part is straight up NAI, its called me being swamped with work and not having the mental energy to do anything. If being mentally drained is scummy, do not vote me- instead vote against the American Higher Education/ University system. excuses im sorry :sobs: life has been so busy, and im spending tomorrow on a plane!! Generally speaking though, I dont love how there has been little resistance to my wagon and no one has made a real effort outside of my slot today. For any scum it makes sense to capitalize on my wagon, but outside of scum it feels like town is growing too complacent and is kind of just like slowing down and not trying as much to form critical reads on a variety of slots. Im kind of afraid because this is exactly how town lost in Advent, was growing too complacent with reads everyone was comfortable with, which let froggo run away with the game. And since almost every SR on me is purely mechanical it feels like a better idea to just try and clear me mechanically or let me prove im a poison healer, otherwise yall are just voting out a townslot because OM claims to have the same role I do. Generally speaking I think its important to look at slots that have faded into the background after being towned. Yash/BP/Abdel/TBZ are all good votes here for UTR slots. And for you aligning, do you have any other reads or game thoughts here? Right now your only read on my slot seems to be coming from what OM said, and while you are here id love to at least hear a general townpool/scumpool from you and lets say I flip maf, do you have any partner reads for me? Same thing if I flip town, how does that shape your read on OM and on my wagon in general. |
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Post by slowthepoke on Feb 23, 2024 2:10:02 GMT
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Post by Animal Midwife on Feb 23, 2024 2:13:10 GMT
It's sigma that's for certain. |
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Post by kliff on Feb 23, 2024 2:24:13 GMT
I don't really understand what clem is trying too cook here
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Post by slowthepoke on Feb 23, 2024 2:38:20 GMT
 bro i feel massive withdrawals on ptsd vote , highkey just waiting for event so i can ita derz to see if they flip vote @cuddleszz |
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Post by litteleven on Feb 23, 2024 2:44:32 GMT
do not touch:
kliff
animalmidwife
omroom
prodigu
yashgreninja
touch in :
slowthepoke
bowlingpokeballs
touch in moderation
spiderz
aligningstars
thunderballz
shotlist
abdel
clemensthelemon
cuddleszz
fort
passthesaltdude
any objections, last list unordered
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Post by litteleven on Feb 23, 2024 2:45:17 GMT
touch in (some time):
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Post by slowthepoke on Feb 23, 2024 2:47:52 GMT
do not touch: kliff animalmidwife omroom prodigu yashgreninja touch in : slowthepoke bowlingpokeballs touch in moderation spiderz aligningstars thunderballz shotlist abdel clemensthelemon cuddleszz fort passthesaltdude any objections, last list unordered yeah put me in do not touch rn |
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Post by litteleven on Feb 23, 2024 2:47:55 GMT
@ kliff you should def use your itas by this phase, even if you think ptsd/om conflict's gonna resolve itself you should dump lead into someone here
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Post by passthesaltdude on Feb 23, 2024 2:48:00 GMT
do not touch: kliff animalmidwife omroom prodigu yashgreninja touch in : slowthepoke bowlingpokeballs touch in moderation spiderz aligningstars thunderballz shotlist abdel clemensthelemon cuddleszz fort passthesaltdude any objections, last list unordered yes please put your name here. |
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Post by slowthepoke on Feb 23, 2024 2:49:40 GMT
lmaooo just played a game where ic got hammered d1
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Post by litteleven on Feb 23, 2024 2:50:00 GMT
im in do not touch yeah
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bro i feel massive withdrawals on ptsd vote 