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Post by abcaba on Mar 26, 2024 2:49:15 GMT
anyways since nobody is posting i guess ill give current thoughts
i definitely don't think scum was aiming for jester so they probably saw gts as a strong town that posed a threat?
gonna reread gts to see if they called out any specific names
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Post by Prodigu on Mar 26, 2024 12:47:49 GMT
anyways since nobody is posting i guess ill give current thoughts i definitely don't think scum was aiming for jester so they probably saw gts as a strong town that posed a threat? gonna reread gts to see if they called out any specific names Im like…. kinda thinking Gary couldve been implying something about Iavh when he was talking about Iavh pretending to be jester |
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Post by passthesaltdude on Mar 26, 2024 14:43:58 GMT
I genuinely thought GTS was the town and SC would be the jester as I read through the day. I guess I just got it flipped.
Something about clouds is just rubbing me the wrong way here, none of his posts feel extremely productive here and it feels like in general he is mainly just saying vaguely town things that dont add much, like how he likes Gary because of his posts about prod. It just feels basic and very agreeable. But im also willing to extend the benefit of the doubt that the game currently just lacks any substance for real commentary from players like Clouds.
Aside from that, I feel like STP is town here, their posts have felt very natural and levelheaded to me. I have never seen a STP scum game, but STP is acting traditionally more townie here than ive seen them before.
Vote Abcaba
Their iso is almost nothing, but their line about SC omgus SR them feel unnatural and in the way were they are setting up a point with no real payoff.
Also prod trying to frame IAVH from a GTS jester flip feels forced and the way Prod responds to Abcaba about it feels noncommittal in a way that just rubs me the wrong way
"Im like…. kinda thinking Gary couldve been implying something about Iavh when he was talking about Iavh pretending to be jester"
Like this line feels so passive in a way where Prod is establishing a thought but is too afraid to take it anywhere.
I feel like the natural progression of yesterday is going to have today end up being an IAVH vote. Since common sentiment was that he was prob jester, and now that jester has flipped as you can already see with like people like Prod- there is an idea that IAVH could be mafia pretending to be jester
I could def see Abcaba/Prod giving us 1 scum slot esp if the push on IAVH continues (In the case that IAVH is in fact town. If IAVH is scum then its a lot different)
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Post by passthesaltdude on Mar 26, 2024 14:45:20 GMT
anyways since nobody is posting i guess ill give current thoughts i definitely don't think scum was aiming for jester so they probably saw gts as a strong town that posed a threat? gonna reread gts to see if they called out any specific names Im like…. kinda thinking Gary couldve been implying something about Iavh when he was talking about Iavh pretending to be jester Can you expand on this please. Like pull up a specific quote or log from Gary. Do you think this makes IAVH mafia? If not what does this mean for IAVH slot? Is this info worth trying to push an IAVH vote, especially considering the lack of info we are working with here? |
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Post by passthesaltdude on Mar 26, 2024 14:47:23 GMT
anyways since nobody is posting i guess ill give current thoughts i definitely don't think scum was aiming for jester so they probably saw gts as a strong town that posed a threat? gonna reread gts to see if they called out any specific names Did you see any names? Do you agree with the sentiment Prod is proposing about GTS and IAVH? Did you notice anything else interesting about Gary's slot that we could use in terms of shaping the rest of today? |
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Post by passthesaltdude on Mar 26, 2024 14:48:42 GMT
The biggest issue right now, as literally everyone can tell is the lack of activity from all parties. This is incredibly hurtful for town because with so little info we are kind of in a rut where we can't go anywhere. So i encourage everyone to not only try and be active, but also pressure other slots that are inactive to try and get more play and activity from them.
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Post by abcaba on Mar 26, 2024 20:40:50 GMT
anyways since nobody is posting i guess ill give current thoughts i definitely don't think scum was aiming for jester so they probably saw gts as a strong town that posed a threat? gonna reread gts to see if they called out any specific names Did you see any names? Do you agree with the sentiment Prod is proposing about GTS and IAVH? Did you notice anything else interesting about Gary's slot that we could use in terms of shaping the rest of today? not rly no, they had a slight interaction w clouds but thats abt it for all i know im overanalyzing it and it was a simple fearkill i defenitely think prod's statement is a bit of a stretch but prod is null to me atm i do like the idea of pushing a clouds vote here tho vote clouds |
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Post by Clouds on Mar 27, 2024 5:57:21 GMT
Something about clouds is just rubbing me the wrong way here, none of his posts feel extremely productive here and it feels like in general he is mainly just saying vaguely town things that dont add much, like how he likes Gary because of his posts about prod. It just feels basic and very agreeable. But im also willing to extend the benefit of the doubt that the game currently just lacks any substance for real commentary from players like Clouds. yeah straight up don't have much time for this game on weekdays soz and what little free time i do have is mostly going towards PSMPL2 i'm town though, was gearing up to come on and read tonight but there's like nothing so |
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Post by Clouds on Mar 27, 2024 6:05:41 GMT
in a nice change of scenery, i'm townreading pass so far, i'll explain more about why in a sec
though i'm not so sure on STP yet pass, i feel like he's been notably lower presence here. then again the same thing could be said about me, so there's no reason he can't just be busy & town as well
but like from what he's posted so far, i don't feel strongly in any direction yet so i'm kinda surprised you're left with more of an impression. even felt like the line he said about GTS at D2 entrance is something he'd say if he was mafia that killed Jester GTS lol, not outright a read but just calling it out now so that he can't say i didn't call it out if it winds up being true. we can see though, i'm leaning towards voting abc over anyone else
if i'm right on t!you, abc's decision to vote me after you expressed some concern is pretty opportunistic, esp because it has no real foundation other than wanting to push the vote
s!abc in forums seems to struggle a lot to back his reads with actual reasoning based on the mash, so the lack of depth he's shown so far would leave me unsurprised if he flips mafia again
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Post by Clouds on Mar 27, 2024 6:09:22 GMT
Also prod trying to frame IAVH from a GTS jester flip feels forced and the way Prod responds to Abcaba about it feels noncommittal in a way that just rubs me the wrong way "Im like…. kinda thinking Gary couldve been implying something about Iavh when he was talking about Iavh pretending to be jester" Like this line feels so passive in a way where Prod is establishing a thought but is too afraid to take it anywhere. this is the best part of pass's post for sure this level of depth is usually harder to emulate as a wolf & captures a line of thinking that i can see being his real thought process more easily than i can see it being faked |
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Post by Clouds on Mar 27, 2024 6:11:04 GMT
so let's begin here:
townreads: pass
wish i could add more to this, but i just genuinely can't see a reason to be adding anyone else to this list right now
gary was my only other solid townread and he wasn't even town, i'm surprised he played like a pseudo-townleader as jester
kinda weird gut feeling iavh winds up being town but it's not rooted in anything stable, i do think iavh is almost never mafia with peng though because peng's post on iavh would almost certainly be from a place of TMI vs a partnered read given how bad it would look to defend a partner at that point that's essentially done nothing defendable
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Post by Clouds on Mar 27, 2024 6:12:44 GMT
vote abcaba
this & peng are solid votes but abc is wolfier than peng atm
peng and iavh can be tvs, svt, tvt, but not svs so keep that in mind if one of them flips mafia, i'd feel good abt the other
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Post by Clouds on Mar 27, 2024 6:13:41 GMT
i definitely don't think scum was aiming for jester so they probably saw gts as a strong town that posed a threat? and see this just reads like someone who did exactly this and is pretending to look like they're "guessing" what scum did, iykyk |
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Post by Clouds on Mar 27, 2024 6:14:23 GMT
need myan to do something alignment indiactive
would help exponentially with the solve
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Post by Clouds on Mar 27, 2024 6:16:16 GMT
also STP & abc are unpartnered likely with the way STP just dropped a vote on abc and left D2, would be severely anti-momentum and no reason to bus like that
so if abc does in fact flip mafia i'm probably going to lock STP in as town
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Post by PenguinD on Mar 27, 2024 6:38:57 GMT
i definitely don't think scum was aiming for jester so they probably saw gts as a strong town that posed a threat? and see this just reads like someone who did exactly this and is pretending to look like they're "guessing" what scum did, iykyk the thing is, i see them do this as town more often than not, so im not inclined to scum them based on that zz |
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Post by PenguinD on Mar 27, 2024 6:40:52 GMT
vote myan lowkey.....
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Post by PenguinD on Mar 27, 2024 6:44:10 GMT
abc wanting to vote clouds here seems rather arbitrary though
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Post by Prodigu on Mar 27, 2024 13:21:25 GMT
In the same light, the role of Mafia would be to play the game as though their town, a philosophy I hold whenever I roll scum. Doesn't matter the alliance you are. Play the game as you're town. Scumhunt. Win the game. Adding on that I don't really see Mafia gaming much if iavh is being "scummy" to try to think town they're jester. Like if we think iavh is scum, we vote iavh. @pass to answer your question At least felt like to me originally Gary was kinda sayin “Iavh isnt Jester” Wrt to “is it worth pushing” ur right were at an info deficit here still seems like there hasnt been much activity to really speak about still, do think iavh is being unusually quiet here but maybe its worth scrapping the read atp and trying to focus on towning slots where i can and come back to it later if need be |
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Post by Prodigu on Mar 27, 2024 13:23:06 GMT
Interesting, what has you with Myan here? He has like maybe 1 line in this whole game, feel like this is more of an “i want you to be active” vote |
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Post by Prodigu on Mar 27, 2024 13:24:11 GMT
abc wanting to vote clouds here seems rather arbitrary though Do you think its like arbitrary in like a scummy sense or arbitrary as, you dont understand why hes voting him |
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Post by slowthepoke on Mar 27, 2024 15:34:25 GMT
Abcaba v clouds feels fake to me btw, gives me svs vibes
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Post by slowthepoke on Mar 27, 2024 16:38:06 GMT
in a nice change of scenery, i'm townreading pass so far, i'll explain more about why in a sec though i'm not so sure on STP yet pass, i feel like he's been notably lower presence here. then again the same thing could be said about me, so there's no reason he can't just be busy & town as well but like from what he's posted so far, i don't feel strongly in any direction yet so i'm kinda surprised you're left with more of an impression. even felt like the line he said about GTS at D2 entrance is something he'd say if he was mafia that killed Jester GTS lol, not outright a read but just calling it out now so that he can't say i didn't call it out if it winds up being true. we can see though, i'm leaning towards voting abc over anyone else if i'm right on t!you, abc's decision to vote me after you expressed some concern is pretty opportunistic, esp because it has no real foundation other than wanting to push the vote s!abc in forums seems to struggle a lot to back his reads with actual reasoning based on the mash, so the lack of depth he's shown so far would leave me unsurprised if he flips mafia again Ya im on a cruise so i cant be as active as usual |
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Post by slowthepoke on Mar 27, 2024 19:11:22 GMT
abc wanting to vote clouds here seems rather arbitrary though Like this line btw |
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Post by MyanMario on Mar 27, 2024 20:44:32 GMT
vote clouds
Gm, come back to this game to see clouds playing his scummeta to a T
prod is likely town if abc is mafia, yet I wouldn’t say the opposite applies
PTSD is a strong townlean here, although some of their lines felt a iioa-y
Stp, iavh relatively null
Anyone else I genuinely have not seen anything from them
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