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Post by ForgotToFlush on Apr 17, 2024 5:01:57 GMT
no clue what that emans but ok if someone doesnt know how many scum there are then you might say that they werent part of the scumteam bc otherwise they'd know how many partners they have
but i think that's too easy to fake + there are 3ps that prevent the logic from being fully transferrable
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Apr 17, 2024 5:02:14 GMT
oh this Even-Night Fickle Condemner seems hella op second derpclear attempt REJECTED
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Post by zarathustra on Apr 17, 2024 5:02:32 GMT
I think the town would be more willing to consider the views of others there, especially if that player lacks confidence. Mafia doesn't need to show restraint because they need to control the game to some degree but thats just my pov ok now we're just getting deep into the philosophy weeds what do you make of the actual callout post then
The one where Lindauna asked for permission? I think she wanted to test waters to see if others disagree with her, I do that too quite often. Idk I have lind as kinda villagery imo Pq is a null
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Post by zarathustra on Apr 17, 2024 5:03:56 GMT
now let me limp to the store
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Post by lindauna on Apr 17, 2024 5:04:52 GMT
lindauna looks better than pqwerty imo eh lind is coming across as pushy to me rn pqwert read feels forced
i tend to pressure early when something stands out to me
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Post by AligningStars on Apr 17, 2024 5:05:06 GMT
no clue what that emans but ok if someone doesnt know how many scum there are then you might say that they werent part of the scumteam bc otherwise they'd know how many partners they have
but i think that's too easy to fake + there are 3ps that prevent the logic from being fully transferrable
Your underestimating my power of not reading ftf
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Apr 17, 2024 5:06:18 GMT
eh lind is coming across as pushy to me rn pqwert read feels forced
i tend to pressure early when something stands out to me do ya thing then, dont worry about me
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Apr 17, 2024 5:06:36 GMT
if someone doesnt know how many scum there are then you might say that they werent part of the scumteam bc otherwise they'd know how many partners they have
but i think that's too easy to fake + there are 3ps that prevent the logic from being fully transferrable
Your underestimating my power of not reading ftf i simply dont want to give out towncred for bad reasons
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Post by lindauna on Apr 17, 2024 5:06:44 GMT
no clue what that emans but ok translation: pretending to not know how many scum there are isnt a towntell
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Post by AligningStars on Apr 17, 2024 5:08:07 GMT
Your underestimating my power of not reading ftf i simply dont want to give out towncred for bad reasons
makes complete sense. i diddnt even think waht i did was towny.
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Post by lindauna on Apr 17, 2024 5:10:13 GMT
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Apr 17, 2024 5:10:46 GMT
anyway more Flush Takestm:
zara can absolutely fake anything he has said thus far aligning's non derpclear posts are fine otherwise
the nexus style situation i pointed out earlier with penguin and friends isnt completely bs, i think there's some substance there i know nothing about pqwerty and am inclined to chalk up what i've seen to a style that i haven't fully assessed, leaning town
gonna do some other things for an undisclosed amount of time, hf
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Post by pqwerty on Apr 17, 2024 5:11:49 GMT
hey PTSD here, quick question since you said earlier you'd love to generate more discussion and talk about things. #1- How do you feel about Lin's vote/ "Push" on you? (I put push in quotes bc it feels relatively early to call it that). is it AI at all, does it feel like there is any other motive behind it. #2- I know its relatively early, but do you think there is any other slot that would be good to push/ examine here #2.5- This kind of relates to #2 but out of all the entrances so far, does any stick out to you in any real direction here? Like has any opening line or follow up struck you a particular way so far Hi PTSD great questions! #1 I'm not really sure... like I feel like the case was good on a surface level since it had reasoning-ish and wasn't just a random vote, but I also don't like how Lin started going "Pqwerty hasn't done anything towny all game". Maybe Lin is my executioner and the bait worked after all? I just don't see why someone would be pushing me like this 1 hour into the game unless they were 100% convinced I'm scum for saying I failed to do a fancy play. #2 I don't know yet. Maybe look out for Prodigu for saying they can godread Penguind when u struggle to do it. It might be possible that they can godread this game cuz they know the setup. Also a lot of their posting so far (and I get it, we're only an hour into the game) but it's mostly just saying they can godread penguin and helping people use the vote system. It's solving-adjacent in the sense that it isn't solving but it's stuff that helps in solving. Just keep an eye on it to make sure they're actually solving later on. #2.5 I'm bad at reading entrances and making entrances so I pretty much ignore them.
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Apr 17, 2024 5:12:48 GMT
oh one more thing since i have access to the vcbot as well
1) get your formatting right!!! only 5 people counted as voting rn 2) i can post unofficial vcs as needed 3) can potentially look into making the VCBot public so you can all check yourselves but it's a work in progress
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Post by AligningStars on Apr 17, 2024 5:14:19 GMT
oh one more thing since i have access to the vcbot as well
1) get your formatting right!!! only 5 people counted as voting rn 2) i can post unofficial vcs as needed 3) can potentially look into making the VCBot public so you can all check yourselves but it's a work in progress why would we need unoffical vc's?
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Apr 17, 2024 5:14:45 GMT
oh one more thing since i have access to the vcbot as well
1) get your formatting right!!! only 5 people counted as voting rn 2) i can post unofficial vcs as needed 3) can potentially look into making the VCBot public so you can all check yourselves but it's a work in progress why would we need unoffical vc's? in case host isnt around
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Post by pqwerty on Apr 17, 2024 5:19:04 GMT
I mean, to the first quote, I'm not really blending in without standing out if I'm openly admitting to not doing a fancy play. I feel like admitting to not doing a fancy play stands out just the same. Also, what's the WIFOM here? That a wolf wouldn't have their first post draw attention to them? Finally, that's kind of what fancy plays are supposed to do. You do something a little silly or anti-town with the hopes of catching scum. Obviously my plan was too dumb to work so I just said "well I've been foiled from doing a fancy play". my sl was less because of you standing out and more because of how wary you were of voting STP, the fancy play part feels NAI to me. I feel like the assumptions placed on STP's slot are a massive stretch to me and that combined with your hesitancy to place a second vote looks scummy imo. I know this is WIFOM territory but if I was wary of looking scummy by voting for STP, shouldn't I just not vote STP and not announce to the entire thread that it would look scummy if I did? Idk there's gotta be more reasons than this to sr me if you're that confident I'm scum.
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Post by lindauna on Apr 17, 2024 5:27:24 GMT
Im not confident you’re scum I just think your posts look the worst of everyone who’s spoken so far here, it could be a matter of me not understanding your approach towards solving the game
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Post by pqwerty on Apr 17, 2024 5:29:40 GMT
Step 1. Create discussion. Step 2. Read ISOs Step 3. Make reads. Step 4. Profit.
I'm currently writing up step 3 from the little we have so far
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Post by lindauna on Apr 17, 2024 5:31:22 GMT
hey PTSD here, quick question since you said earlier you'd love to generate more discussion and talk about things. #1- How do you feel about Lin's vote/ "Push" on you? (I put push in quotes bc it feels relatively early to call it that). is it AI at all, does it feel like there is any other motive behind it. #2- I know its relatively early, but do you think there is any other slot that would be good to push/ examine here #2.5- This kind of relates to #2 but out of all the entrances so far, does any stick out to you in any real direction here? Like has any opening line or follow up struck you a particular way so far Hi PTSD great questions! #1 I'm not really sure... like I feel like the case was good on a surface level since it had reasoning-ish and wasn't just a random vote, but I also don't like how Lin started going "Pqwerty hasn't done anything towny all game". Maybe Lin is my executioner and the bait worked after all? I just don't see why someone would be pushing me like this 1 hour into the game unless they were 100% convinced I'm scum for saying I failed to do a fancy play. #2 I don't know yet. Maybe look out for Prodigu for saying they can godread Penguind when u struggle to do it. It might be possible that they can godread this game cuz they know the setup. Also a lot of their posting so far (and I get it, we're only an hour into the game) but it's mostly just saying they can godread penguin and helping people use the vote system. It's solving-adjacent in the sense that it isn't solving but it's stuff that helps in solving. Just keep an eye on it to make sure they're actually solving later on. #2.5 I'm bad at reading entrances and making entrances so I pretty much ignore them. So you’re saying you can see where my case is coming from, maybe let’s address that. What is your take on the STP vote, and why were you so hesitant to place a second vote? Also what is your take on prod/peng, do you think prod is setting up for a solve or generating content without the intent to actually solve the game?
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Post by lindauna on Apr 17, 2024 5:33:32 GMT
my sl was less because of you standing out and more because of how wary you were of voting STP, the fancy play part feels NAI to me. I feel like the assumptions placed on STP's slot are a massive stretch to me and that combined with your hesitancy to place a second vote looks scummy imo. I know this is WIFOM territory but if I was wary of looking scummy by voting for STP, shouldn't I just not vote STP and not announce to the entire thread that it would look scummy if I did? Idk there's gotta be more reasons than this to sr me if you're that confident I'm scum. Again the announcement is NAI idt its pro town or pro scum since it didn’t achieve anything, I like your willingness to engage here, I’ve told you what I dislike about your posting, hope you’ll address the questions I had for you last post
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Post by iavh on Apr 17, 2024 5:35:28 GMT
Step 1. Create discussion. Step 2. Read ISOs Step 3. Make reads. Step 4. Profit. I'm currently writing up step 3 from the little we have so far hihi gonna start on this post! as i like to say, yet I haven't said in a bit, lamist!!! vote pqwerty [/vote]
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Post by iavh on Apr 17, 2024 5:40:16 GMT
make chats with me
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Post by zarathustra on Apr 17, 2024 5:40:19 GMT
anyway more Flush Takestm:
zara can absolutely fake anything he has said thus far aligning's non derpclear posts are fine otherwise
the nexus style situation i pointed out earlier with penguin and friends isnt completely bs, i think there's some substance there i know nothing about pqwerty and am inclined to chalk up what i've seen to a style that i haven't fully assessed, leaning town
gonna do some other things for an undisclosed amount of time, hf
i am back can you explain me the roles? idk what they mean
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Post by zarathustra on Apr 17, 2024 5:40:34 GMT
also my hands are frozen cold so i am typing slow af rn
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