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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Jun 17, 2024 2:53:23 GMT
the endpoint of this is that there's partner potential between myan/stp/vade, fwiw. do you think that's realistic? you don't typically want to try and unpartner people as scum this early into the game unless it directly benefits you or you have no other fakeable read content in mindI think this kind of addresses its own point fwiw Like sure, optimally as scum you want to keep your options open bc your wincon is "eliminate townies such that wolves outnumber town / town are unable to prevent this" but vis-a-vis your last point, wolves struggling to produce are exactly the ones who'll make those sorts of half-reads. You feel the pressure to say *something*, you feel the pressure to say something *relevant*, so you throw together a pseudoread that maybe is somewhat related to events in-thread but doesn't necessarily align with a progression |
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Jun 17, 2024 2:53:47 GMT
feels like a good time to say "if you're unsure just ask" Ok then what did that line mean i... i explained it. literally in the post above this. did i not??? |
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Post by slowthepoke on Jun 17, 2024 3:03:08 GMT
Ok then what did that line mean i... i explained it. literally in the post above this. did i not??? I didnt see it :skull: |
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Post by Fame on Jun 17, 2024 3:08:44 GMT
I think this kind of addresses its own point fwiw Like sure, optimally as scum you want to keep your options open bc your wincon is "eliminate townies such that wolves outnumber town / town are unable to prevent this" but vis-a-vis your last point, wolves struggling to produce are exactly the ones who'll make those sorts of half-reads. You feel the pressure to say *something*, you feel the pressure to say something *relevant*, so you throw together a pseudoread that maybe is somewhat related to events in-thread but doesn't necessarily align with a progression think my mind immediately went to "why would myan focus on unpartnering these players in particular as scum" rather than "myan's read is half assed" bc what struck me about their posts towards me originally wasn't the lack of effort but instead how abrupt they felt |
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Post by Fame on Jun 17, 2024 3:13:01 GMT
i've played games with scum!myan on here where they spew their partners very quickly into thread
think in broadway maf it was myan who blatantly spewed peng very early on leading me to catch on to that slot
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Post by MyanMario on Jun 17, 2024 4:51:41 GMT
i've played games with scum!myan on here where they spew their partners very quickly into thread think in broadway maf it was myan who blatantly spewed peng very early on leading me to catch on to that slot okay but lowkey peng is an exception i will slash them asap if i can |
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Post by MyanMario on Jun 17, 2024 4:53:07 GMT
Idr see a spot to jump into the thread here so I’m going to sleep- read up and thought the convo were relatively fine like nothing to comment on, if someone has questions @ me
vote @sylvieslays
Idr if someone asked but yes there was reason to me specifically asking fame, will talk more tmrw when I’m awake
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Post by MyanMario on Jun 17, 2024 4:54:40 GMT
Actually I lied, winsytinsy I’m going to absolutely pummel you tomorrow please be active it would be helpful. PTSD you’re welcome to join in cuz atm I can’t read u but like, d1 so w/e |
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Post by MyanMario on Jun 17, 2024 5:00:00 GMT
I’m actually so bored omg can I get everyone’s specific thoughts on NE?
On a parallel note I’d like to see who’s engaged- CYOA time!
As you’re getting ready to go to sleep, you start to hear this faint ringing in your head.
-Take an aspirin and hope it goes away
-Ignore it and go to sleep
-Hit yourself in the head to try and knock it off
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Jun 17, 2024 6:21:22 GMT
Votecount 1.1: 15 hours and 40 minutes to go until deadline. If deadline was right now, Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ would be voted out. Please let me know of any mistakes in the Votecount. (1) Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪: slowthepoke(1) Fame: SylvieSlays2(1) MyanMario: Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪(13) Not Voting: ToiletBro2, passthesaltdude, ddlcfan69, winsytinsy, aspen22, MyanMario, Dactyl7, Lechen, NightEmerald, Fame, micromorphic, realiti, vaderaven,
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Post by vaderaven on Jun 17, 2024 6:45:16 GMT
ok I'm back and will be reading back on the game, I kinda fell asleep
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Post by slowthepoke on Jun 17, 2024 8:34:45 GMT
Votecount 1.1: 15 hours and 40 minutes to go until deadline. If deadline was right now, Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ would be voted out. Please let me know of any mistakes in the Votecount. (1) Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪: slowthepoke(1) Fame: SylvieSlays2(1) MyanMario: Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪(13) Not Voting: ToiletBro2, passthesaltdude, ddlcfan69, winsytinsy, aspen22, MyanMario, Dactyl7, Lechen, NightEmerald, Fame, micromorphic, realiti, vaderaven, I still need to sleep but. vote @realiti |
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Post by ToiletBro2 on Jun 17, 2024 9:25:42 GMT
Ok calling some low effort shitposts within the first 30 mins of d1 trolling is definitely a thing. Since this is 10 pages I'm going to be going through chronologically, so bear with any non-sequitur organisation Do people rvs on forums? Vote vaderavenLegally I am obliged to say that this is not rvs, because stating this is rvs removes the pressure that rvs is intended to create. ok I'm going to go sleep now please dont wagon into a hammer what exactly are you trying to achieve with this. Reaction testing! RVS isn't the only way to test reactions. The whole back and forth about realiti not knowing the setup and vaderaven poking at how they could make reads is completely irrelevant as far as I'm concerned. Off of what...? That they are down to axe Schia? Just seems like an unforced natural entrance 'Let's vote these people' is an easy entrance for both mafia and town! I don't read this as meaningful - if it was part of an agenda it should never have been so obvious. Slight tl on realiti at this point Meanwhile vaderaven keeps picking realiti up on everything they do, which feels more like a tunnel than anything else. ok im back // NE which part of my interrogation do you think is inherently scummy in that case, pressuring a slot that had multiple chances to explain their reads and back it up with a piece of evidence from THIS GAME but haven't. I am being Narrow Minded however I must admit but its a very peculiar way to read as town from real. You seem to think that its baseless, but tell me if they've answered my questions properly instead of just "I've already answered" when evidently he left both me and STP hanging the part where you entirely ignored their pmeta based read, like, straight up talked like it was equivalent to not having any points whatsoever. I'm not the biggest playermeta fan, but there's ways that town discredit it and straight up ignoring the post is not one of them NE picking vaderaven up precisely on their behaviour, encouraging good townplay/discouraging bad townplay is a tl Schia is tr imo - in my experience Schia tries harder to control the game when scum, and observes more when town. Most of what Schia has said so far is observation, and still forming reads but not aggresively. Guess I can't SR schia in every game. I liked NE's post, not sure how AI it is but there were some good insights so I would hope he is town Logging off for now so posting my reads ranked for convenience: TL vade schia myan Snivy, NE NAI Lechen Sylvie SL stp My guess would be that wolves are AFK, I don't think stp is a great D1 vote as he posts a lot and thus will be easy to solve based off interactions lategame. Q: do mafia also have the ability to nom? If we vote off a mafia, are they able to make the voting pool next day 3 townies? See y'all tmrw Why does it feel like ur tling people just to tl them, like even without reasonings i dont get how u get a toiletbro one and shit like that. This is an SL on stp - your primary focus is on the person who SLed you, and you're rebuking the forming of reads - people forming reads is great! Read into their reads! Don't just say their reads are bad! Unless you're scum and you just want to undermine  Readlist incoming |
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Post by ToiletBro2 on Jun 17, 2024 9:34:55 GMT
TR:
Schia
TL:
NE
vaderaven
realiti
Null:
ptsd
myanmario
winsytinsy
SL:
Fame (slight SL, I didn't find any of their posts meaningful)
slowthepoke
Lurkers (I mean not really its d1 1/2 way through):
aspen22
Sylvieslays
Dactyl7
Lechen
micro
Vote @slowthepoke
This is a good d1 vote imo
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Post by ToiletBro2 on Jun 17, 2024 9:36:47 GMT
If anyone wants my thoughts on specific interactions that I haven't mentioned just ask - I'm not reacting to all of 10 pgs
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Post by vaderaven on Jun 17, 2024 9:38:17 GMT
TR: Schia TL: NE vaderaven realiti Null: ptsd myanmario winsytinsy SL: Fame (slight SL, I didn't find any of their posts meaningful) slowthepoke Lurkers (I mean not really its d1 1/2 way through): aspen22 Sylvieslays Dactyl7 Lechen micro Vote @slowthepokeThis is a good d1 vote imo I'm curious as to why you seem to TR schia without having any posts of them quoted/analyzed. Same goes with fame. What I find interesting right now is your "This is an SL on stp - your primary focus is on the person who SLed you, and you're rebuking the forming of reads - people forming reads is great! Read into their reads! Don't just say their reads are bad! Unless you're scum and you just want to undermine " as STP was already asking and pushing the realiti slot before they were SR'd therefore I don't think thats a valid explanation. I think its fairly safe to say that stp and realiti are unpartnered here though. Thoughts on sylvie parking and then just dipping? |
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Post by vaderaven on Jun 17, 2024 9:41:05 GMT
If anyone wants my thoughts on specific interactions that I haven't mentioned just ask - I'm not reacting to all of 10 pgs If you think that STP/Fame are your SL's who would they be partnered with? Fwiw if the real slot is really scum I'm starting to suspect NE with the opportunistic chainsaw onto me when it seems like I'm barelling straight into a tunnel and not looking at the wider picture. Might be trying to discourage bad scumplay but I don't like the fact that they dislike me trying to put pressure and get info out of the real slot and actively SR'ing me when I'm looking to see how they respond. |
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Post by ToiletBro2 on Jun 17, 2024 9:52:47 GMT
I'm curious as to why you seem to TR schia without having any posts of them quoted/analyzed. Same goes with fame. What I find interesting right now is your "This is an SL on stp - your primary focus is on the person who SLed you, and you're rebuking the forming of reads - people forming reads is great! Read into their reads! Don't just say their reads are bad! Unless you're scum and you just want to undermine " as STP was already asking and pushing the realiti slot before they were SR'd therefore I don't think thats a valid explanation. I think its fairly safe to say that stp and realiti are unpartnered here though. Thoughts on sylvie parking and then just dipping? Re: Schia: Dislike the read(its nai) but scum prob wouldnt be that quick to make a tl esp on a line like this so i think the tones townie On the contrary, weak/shallow TLs based on otherwise non-alignment suggestive content are exactly the sort of reads you see wolves use to overcome TMI Good townplay without agenda schia > snivy > Raven strengthwise schia - interacting and giving thoughts instead of sitting in shadows to scheme a master plan snivy - pretty laidback, doesn't seem like he cares how ppl perceive his troll posts Raven - throwing out votes/towncore page 1, doesn't seem to care how their reads can work against them later on slowpoke - his posts always feel random so impossible to read earlyemerald - nothing stands out Idt this is true for the record, but I believe that you believe it fwiw Making a read without actively influencing the reads presented Again dislike the reads here, both of them are nai. And the novelty has worn off with the town tone thing as this isnt the first time My bigger nitpick atm is that the reads don't seem like they're made w/ each other in mind. Not much progression, just kind of two level-zero reads--&idk that it's particularly wolfy but it's not like, dazzlingly villagery. also not a fan of the "Gotta run, need to sleep" then like, sticking around & the back&forth on that front. Which can come from town, too, but for the sake of having a legible slot i'd much rather you like, go to bed if you need to & then come back when you're in a right state @raven
More of this observing interactions and play without jumping to agendaed reads. etc. Schia is not non-commital, so this observing play makes me tr them |
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Post by ToiletBro2 on Jun 17, 2024 9:54:29 GMT
If anyone wants my thoughts on specific interactions that I haven't mentioned just ask - I'm not reacting to all of 10 pgs If you think that STP/Fame are your SL's who would they be partnered with? Fwiw if the real slot is really scum I'm starting to suspect NE with the opportunistic chainsaw onto me when it seems like I'm barelling straight into a tunnel and not looking at the wider picture. Might be trying to discourage bad scumplay but I don't like the fact that they dislike me trying to put pressure and get info out of the real slot and actively SR'ing me when I'm looking to see how they respond. I don't focus on partnerage very much until we start to get info from flips. It just makes everything so broadly hypothetical, and when I do it I often find myself tunneling into a very specific set of reads. |
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Post by ToiletBro2 on Jun 17, 2024 9:55:07 GMT
As for sylvie's dipping, I'd warrant its just a case of the day starting at their late evening, like me.
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Post by ToiletBro2 on Jun 17, 2024 9:56:26 GMT
NE I am willing to reconsider, because their play is quite strong/can be construed as aggressive,
but I like aggressive play, and they've done nothing that suggests to me their reads aren't genuine.
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Post by ToiletBro2 on Jun 17, 2024 9:58:19 GMT
And finally - I know I have devolved into rapid-fire posting -
STP doesn't read as someone continuing to push their initial SR; they read as scum trying to retain their SR that they thought would work and being a little salty that the person they think is scummy isn't being picked up on their behaviour.
That is not a strong read, but it is a read
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Post by vaderaven on Jun 17, 2024 11:00:27 GMT
Its dead hours, not much to say rn except my NE vote failed so
vote @NightEmerald
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Post by Fame on Jun 17, 2024 11:55:30 GMT
Hiya, I'm around
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Post by Fame on Jun 17, 2024 11:56:09 GMT
With that statement i'm going to vote NE in their opportunistic push on me along with "trying to refute" my claims by just ignoring my posts the same thing that they said I supposedly did to real. vote @NightEmeraldwhat part of NE's push on you is particularly opportunistic / what makes you say that it's an opportune time for NE to push a scumread on you? have some thoughts about what you're saying here but want your own words first can you talk to me about this vaderavenbumping bc it matters to me |
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