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Post by Fame on Jun 17, 2024 15:34:24 GMT
Current itch here has to do w/ trying to pin down a would-be village POV for the slot. I think the treatment of Myan is weird, it reads as somehow both concessive to things that make them wolfy and critical of the suspicion toward them, like this alternant defense/reproach situation.
Seeing some shades of it in their treatment of TB's post too--like it comes across as critical of the TB's read on me while still also wanting to leave things up in the air as to whether it's an S-on-T or S-on-S situation, like a have-your-cake-and-eat-it-too situation w/rt discrediting the case. Reading through it a few times, I don't think it's unreasonable for someone to think TB's TR is weak (personally "observational without fencesitting, measured without leading" is like ~fine as a baselevel initial TR and I think the explanation flows pretty decently from vade's question, less likely manufactured), but I'm pretty skeptical of the lengths taken to say "Schia can still be scum" short of actually *saying* it in your approach to his post.
I think there's room for Fame/Myan as a pair (less likely would be w!Fame taking a hands-off approach to letting suspicion build on v!Myan, but I think the simpler explanation is just Both), think a wolfflip from either would look maybe decent for NE, &I think vade's got vanishingly little partner equity w/ a good deal of the thread atp i practically say exactly this in the second line of the op when i say 'that statement could be made from either alignment' & like, signposting the obvious that you could still be scum in bold letters would make no difference to what im actually saying in that post which has less to do with your alignment in particular and more to do with how they're reaching their conclusions/forming their reads also, a lot of this post feels like you having an expectation for me to have more answers or concrete opinions on things than i actually do atm & then incorrectly assigning scummy motives to uncertainty w/ lines like "wanting to leave things up in the air as to whether it's an S-on-T or S-on-S situation, like a have-your-cake-and-eat-it-too situation w/rt discrediting the case." like, i didn't really feel the need to rush to a conclusion on whether that post was S/T vs S/S because he hadn't even had a chance to respond to my question yet |
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Jun 17, 2024 15:39:19 GMT
Current itch here has to do w/ trying to pin down a would-be village POV for the slot. I think the treatment of Myan is weird, it reads as somehow both concessive to things that make them wolfy and critical of the suspicion toward them, like this alternant defense/reproach situation.
Seeing some shades of it in their treatment of TB's post too--like it comes across as critical of the TB's read on me while still also wanting to leave things up in the air as to whether it's an S-on-T or S-on-S situation, like a have-your-cake-and-eat-it-too situation w/rt discrediting the case. Reading through it a few times, I don't think it's unreasonable for someone to think TB's TR is weak (personally "observational without fencesitting, measured without leading" is like ~fine as a baselevel initial TR and I think the explanation flows pretty decently from vade's question, less likely manufactured), but I'm pretty skeptical of the lengths taken to say "Schia can still be scum" short of actually *saying* it in your approach to his post.
I think there's room for Fame/Myan as a pair (less likely would be w!Fame taking a hands-off approach to letting suspicion build on v!Myan, but I think the simpler explanation is just Both), think a wolfflip from either would look maybe decent for NE, &I think vade's got vanishingly little partner equity w/ a good deal of the thread atp i practically say exactly this in the second line of the op when i say 'that statement could be made from either alignment' & like, signposting the obvious that you could still be scum in bold letters would make no difference to what im actually saying in that post which has less to do with your alignment in particular and more to do with how they're reaching their conclusions/forming their reads also, a lot of this post feels like you having an expectation for me to have more answers or concrete opinions on things than i actually do atm & then incorrectly assigning scummy motives to uncertainty w/ lines like "wanting to leave things up in the air as to whether it's an S-on-T or S-on-S situation, like a have-your-cake-and-eat-it-too situation w/rt discrediting the case." like, i didn't really feel the need to rush to a conclusion on whether that post was S/T vs S/S because he hadn't even had a chance to respond to my question yet i don't expect you to have any answers; I do expect you to have motion toward answers |
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Post by Fame on Jun 17, 2024 15:42:42 GMT
i practically say exactly this in the second line of the op when i say 'that statement could be made from either alignment' & like, signposting the obvious that you could still be scum in bold letters would make no difference to what im actually saying in that post which has less to do with your alignment in particular and more to do with how they're reaching their conclusions/forming their reads also, a lot of this post feels like you having an expectation for me to have more answers or concrete opinions on things than i actually do atm & then incorrectly assigning scummy motives to uncertainty w/ lines like "wanting to leave things up in the air as to whether it's an S-on-T or S-on-S situation, like a have-your-cake-and-eat-it-too situation w/rt discrediting the case." like, i didn't really feel the need to rush to a conclusion on whether that post was S/T vs S/S because he hadn't even had a chance to respond to my question yet i don't expect you to have any answers; I do expect you to have motion toward answers the motion towards answers should be evident in me questioning them in the first place! |
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Jun 17, 2024 15:46:46 GMT
 editing posts is illegal btw aspen22 - in the future you can do what's called an "edit by way of post" (EBWOP) by quoting the message you had intended to edit, and including your correction in the reply |
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Post by vaderaven on Jun 17, 2024 15:52:08 GMT
Don’t HL me vote @realiti [/quote]
Please don't edit posts :> |
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Post by vaderaven on Jun 17, 2024 15:52:51 GMT
Welcome micro!
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Jun 17, 2024 15:56:25 GMT
i don't expect you to have any answers; I do expect you to have motion toward answers This is like... fundamentally untrue (in that the fact of questioning doesn't perforce mean someone's looking for answers). Like c'mon, you know this, even outside of mafia that's not the case.
Let's start here: what's your read on me? I made a post earlier about me being threadspewed; I still hold that to be the case (vade's imo another slot that's probably approaching this point), but I think it's cause for concern that your posts just straight up don't feel like you're trying actively to discern alignment--and while yeah, that doesn't exclude you from flipping villager, I think it's def a trait that skews wolfy and in the context of my other concerns I don't think it's an unfair position to take.
Would also go on to say that like, if you are villaging here, I don't think the adversarial stance is really that fruitful.
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Post by micromorphic on Jun 17, 2024 16:05:06 GMT
Hey vade! I'm on Page 5 now if you wanna ask me anything. Here are my notes of what I've observed, I'm writing what happened as it happened: Page 1 - Meh. Not any entrances stood out to me as nasty or good. Page 2 - vaderaven opens with a really meh townlean on realiti from a NAI post. I like how Schiavetto responded to this (can’t derpclear) over how SlowThePoke responded (Vade Town cuz scum wouldn’t post reads fast?). If anything, I believe it would be more likely to come from an informed slot as a fillery lame read. Schia notes something similar as the next post right after I typed this, which I like. SlowThePoke’s response of “vade is new and is solving” is an alright answer, but what I don’t like is the almost instant retraction of a read under pressure for a very lame reason. NightEmerald also pressures STP very poorly & has a fillery intro. Vaderaven closes with filler. Page 3 - realiti drops 5 reads with no reasoning as the first non filler post halfway through the page. Vaderaven has an analysis of a NAI post from realiti that I don’t like or dislike. Realiti’s reasoning for their reads is kinda disappointing. This page was absolutely terrible. Page 4 - SlowThePoke opens with some obvious but good pressure to vaderaven’s second NAI read. Also responds with some more obvious but good pressure to realiti. I like realiti’s responses to pressure coming from vade & STP. I think realiti is really jumping the gun with reads but the elaboration isn’t scummy (as in, realiti didn’t fold under pressure from two slots and explained their thought process). However, I don’t like realiti’s random townread on Myan, and I think it’s fair that vade’s progression led to a realiti vote. All of NightEmerald’s posts have been extremely terrible so far. |
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Post by passthesaltdude on Jun 17, 2024 16:07:44 GMT
Godspeed- Frank Ocean 1:26 “Still, i’ll always be there for you”
Okay quick thoughts because I just got on lunch break and these 5 PM 24 hour deadlines really fuck me over when I get off at 4
My vote is in spirit on Myan. I still have severe issues with how the slot pops into the thread without any sense of urgency and they constantly present ideas without expanding on them. Myan will bring up thoughts and threat issues and then just not go anywhere with it, and the lack of follow through on these thoughts are rubbing my the wrong way.
I’ll be completely honest, I can’t check the thread and post on mobile to give exact thoughts on Fame and Schia right now. But in general Schia is a slot that i’ll always be hesitant/ wary of in the same way im always wary of clouds just because they have the ability to interact with the thread in a genuine way regardless of alignment
that being said Schia touched on it earlier, but I think the way the thread as a whole has handled Schias slot makes it hard for me to place any partner with Schia/ I currently just can’t see where Schia would fit on a scumteam but it’s also super early. Anyways it’s a lot of yapping for me to say I think Schia’s motives are genuine here in questioning Fame and in a way to try and keep the loudest voices in check and making sure they are loud in the right direction
I’ll be completely honest I forgot who said it, (I think Winsy?) but they claimed to also townread me but then said that they weren’t trying to pocket schia. And that statement rubbed me the wrong way a little bit but in general I like how Winsy entered the thread responding to indivual posts with questions and thoughts, I think if Winsy has more follow through today on their thoughts i’ll be comfortable towning them-
I also think what Myan said about like hounding Winsy’s slot was really weird and I don’t know what to make of it sitting in this subway. But i’d love others input
anyways love y’all all, sorry i couldn’t say more. Will try and read up and go in depth once I clock out later
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Jun 17, 2024 16:13:15 GMT
read receipt @ Pass & Micro's latest Taking a moment to say rq, we're 6 hours to DL, this is current VC from my check (2) MyanMario: Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪, Fame(2) realiti: slowthepoke, aspen22(1) slowthepoke: ToiletBro2(1) Fame: SylvieSlays2(1) Lechen: realiti(9) Not Voting: passthesaltdude, ddlcfan69, winsytinsy, MyanMario, Dactyl7, Lechen, NightEmerald, micromorphic, vaderavenw/ plur on Myan and 9 nonvoters. Would hope folks have some noms in mind. Micro you made a post a bit ago abt less urgency & while I do kind of get what you're saying, this is where the whole 24 hr phaselength kicks in hard (esp. once you start factoring in ppl's work situations/sleep schedules, which you yourself alluded to). I like a wagon on Myan here, I don't like the spread or the room for swing (which both hurt legibility across the PL) |
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Post by vaderaven on Jun 17, 2024 16:17:00 GMT
read receipt @ Pass & Micro's latest Taking a moment to say rq, we're 6 hours to DL, this is current VC from my check (2) MyanMario : Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ , Fame (2) realiti : slowthepoke , aspen22 (1) slowthepoke : ToiletBro2 (1) Fame : SylvieSlays2 (1) Lechen : realiti (9) Not Voting: passthesaltdude , ddlcfan69 , winsytinsy , MyanMario , Dactyl7 , Lechen , NightEmerald , micromorphic , vaderaven w/ plur on Myan and 9 nonvoters. Would hope folks have some noms in mind. Micro you made a post a bit ago abt less urgency & while I do kind of get what you're saying, this is where the whole 24 hr phaselength kicks in hard (esp. once you start factoring in ppl's work situations/sleep schedules, which you yourself alluded to). I like a wagon on Myan here, I don't like the spread or the room for swing (which both hurt legibility across the PL) Are my votes on NE not countin :> vote @NightEmerald |
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Post by micromorphic on Jun 17, 2024 16:17:12 GMT
read receipt @ Pass & Micro's latest Taking a moment to say rq, we're 6 hours to DL, this is current VC from my check (2) MyanMario : Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ , Fame (2) realiti : slowthepoke , aspen22 (1) slowthepoke : ToiletBro2 (1) Fame : SylvieSlays2 (1) Lechen : realiti (9) Not Voting: passthesaltdude , ddlcfan69 , winsytinsy , MyanMario , Dactyl7 , Lechen , NightEmerald , micromorphic , vaderaven w/ plur on Myan and 9 nonvoters. Would hope folks have some noms in mind. Micro you made a post a bit ago abt less urgency & while I do kind of get what you're saying, this is where the whole 24 hr phaselength kicks in hard (esp. once you start factoring in ppl's work situations/sleep schedules, which you yourself alluded to). I like a wagon on Myan here, I don't like the spread or the room for swing (which both hurt legibility across the PL) Ty for the VC, if I'm being honest I read the 24 hour deadline after I posted that, which does kick in hard, yeah. From where I'm at atm (Page 6), I'd prefer a vote on NightEmerald but of these wagons I would vote Myan first and realiti last. |
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Post by NightEmerald on Jun 17, 2024 16:17:29 GMT
good morning, leave questions as I catch up
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Post by NightEmerald on Jun 17, 2024 16:18:26 GMT
im aware it isnt morning but I spent a fucking hour and a half typing up a wallpost for a different game
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Post by realiti on Jun 17, 2024 16:21:16 GMT
its 24 hours d1?  |
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Post by realiti on Jun 17, 2024 16:22:07 GMT
Can we have 48 hours for D1 @snaq
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Post by realiti on Jun 17, 2024 16:22:56 GMT
We should get some votes on Lechen because he has reads that he isn't sharing
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Post by aspen22 on Jun 17, 2024 16:26:15 GMT
We should get some votes on Lechen because he has reads that he isn't sharing Panic more Pressure this slot imo |
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Post by realiti on Jun 17, 2024 16:27:17 GMT
We should get some votes on Lechen because he has reads that he isn't sharing Panic more Pressure this slot imo Troll harder |
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Post by NightEmerald on Jun 17, 2024 16:27:19 GMT
aspen please give me something here, your thought process is entirely opaque
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Post by realiti on Jun 17, 2024 16:27:44 GMT
I'm nomming you and two lock townies buddy
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Post by vaderaven on Jun 17, 2024 16:28:03 GMT
We should get some votes on Lechen because he has reads that he isn't sharing Panic more Pressure this slot imo This slot has had the most pressure so far this game and their reaction was pretty townie. |
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Jun 17, 2024 16:30:30 GMT
Votecount 1.2: 5 hours and 30 minutes to go until deadline. If deadline was right now, MyanMario would be voted out. Please let me know of any mistakes in the Votecount. (2) MyanMario: Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪, Fame(2) realiti: slowthepoke, aspen22(1) slowthepoke: ToiletBro2(1) Fame: SylvieSlays2(1) Lechen: realiti(9) Not Voting: passthesaltdude, ddlcfan69, winsytinsy, MyanMario, Dactyl7, Lechen, NightEmerald, micromorphic, vaderavenMake sure to submit your Death Noms in PMs even if you are not being voted right now before the day is over. Remember: they will be randomized if you do not (though I'll try to track you down first).
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Post by aspen22 on Jun 17, 2024 16:36:30 GMT
aspen please give me something here, your thought process is entirely opaque Half his posts are some form of “I TR vade and schia”, I read that as kissing up to the people most likely to apply pressure. The repeated focus on lechen to me comes from nowhere and is a counterproductive discussion. I read that as reality trying to appear to be applying pressure in a not actually helpful way |
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Post by realiti on Jun 17, 2024 16:38:07 GMT
aspen please give me something here, your thought process is entirely opaque Half his posts are some form of “I TR vade and schia”, I read that as kissing up to the people most likely to apply pressure. The repeated focus on lechen to me comes from nowhere and is a counterproductive discussion. I read that as reality trying to appear to be applying pressure in a not actually helpful way Ok I feel like you're just making up reasons because i've definitely expanded on both of these things and done more than that. Not a good look But it seems like you've read the thread, so What are your thoughts on the other players in the game. |
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