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Post by vaderaven on Jul 17, 2024 16:26:07 GMT
oh im defo dying now, bye bye guys  |
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Post by vaderaven on Jul 17, 2024 16:26:26 GMT
turt is still scum here!!
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Post by slowthepoke on Jul 17, 2024 16:26:30 GMT
:/
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Post by slowthepoke on Jul 17, 2024 16:27:00 GMT
Vade bro whats the point of u being here if ur not gonna at least try
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Post by Turtwigswiththrohs on Jul 17, 2024 16:39:52 GMT
Tbhhh I want to do a turt gun vote @turtwigswiththrohs woa |
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Post by Turtwigswiththrohs on Jul 17, 2024 16:40:06 GMT
Tbhhh I want to do a turt gun vote @turtwigswiththrohs woa fucj |
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Post by slowthepoke on Jul 17, 2024 16:41:42 GMT
Tbhhh I want to do a turt gun vote @turtwigswiththrohs woa Need to get the vade shot off |
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Post by Turtwigswiththrohs on Jul 17, 2024 16:44:06 GMT
Need to get the vade shot off what if I don't shoot vade |
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Post by creamykitty on Jul 17, 2024 16:44:09 GMT
oh im defo dying now, bye bye guys Yeah I plotted this all out, I think it’s clear as daylight I must be an evil mastermind behind this plot. I saw your townie push on turt and knew, you would be an unstoppable force, I had to take control. So, I objectively analyze every single one of cases posts, pointing out her progression using real maybe fabricated posts from her iso, to come to a somewhat indecisive conclusion, she seems pushy she seems to be brute forcing, that’s odd. Then comes my partner STP, she points out a bit of weirdness too, I agree, but by then… STP says this is normal behaviour for vade, so she isn’t necessarily an sr, and I point out the pure raw emotion coming from her, maybe it really is just townie paranoia, there could be light in this tunnel. Man, we really are power wolfing you caught us, you saw right through our facade. I am tl’d by half the game, but you vade, you nulled me, and you sr’d turt, my obvious partner in crime. Just like that, our team is foiled. There is a raven looming above us, we are dead meat, we must kill that little bird… or else. |
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Post by Prodigu on Jul 17, 2024 16:44:38 GMT
Aight so here's where we're at, it's not organized and I apologize profusely I did some skimming and have thoughts but they're neither fully parsed out or detailed. Work's had me more exhausted than I expected ~~and I didn't get paid~~, so what's incoming is gonna be kind of disjointed and focus primarily around a few key points. My take on the vig shot's to basically just treat it like modexe, develop a solid shotpool and shoot within it, *maybe* gunning someone within that shotpool to shoot another person in it if we want to ensure we don't gun the nk and waste the shot. Responses to Things and Questions Prodigu p5:"2) A Hopefully the bolded A gets what im referring to across, you able to expand on what you mean with what you said there? Like do you think the response was too wordy, was weird, was something else? not sure what youre getting at with that." Unfortunately, I’m a little stupid and don’t get the bolded A, but it wasn’t a super formed thought I had. I just didn’t take the thing you were responding to very seriously and it stood out to me that you did. idk i just want slots to take note of what prod is doing this game rather than drop early townreads on them and fail to reeval until its too late like that dn game @peng p6: I had the same thought re: Prod, but at present (i.e. up to where you made this post) there wasn’t much about Prod pinging me. I think while Prod definitely has some dichotomy in his gameplay, it’s nowhere near as stark as it used to be and flashbacks to Advent ( in which scum!Prod took control of the game/started openwolfing the second the suspicion on him died) have me stressing. Bolded that because it comes up later in this post. I mostly say this not as anything indicative of my read on Prod, but moreso to say that I get the logic behind Peng’s early stance on Prod. this is more of a random question for you, but i wanted to poke you, maybe fenrir about it, but what do you make of Alignings absenteeism? Hes usually not one for that, at least not the "ive made 2 posts" style Without knowing why they’re gone I don’t find it particularly AI; as I recall Aligning’s generally pretty active so I’m assuming there’s an oog reason. I’ll concede I’ve only seen them play town, so I don’t know if there’s a dichotomy I’m unaware of when it comes to activity but have trouble imagining it’d be this stark. Fame and Prodigu, I know y’all’ve given thoughts on Peng but want to know your thoughts on them in light of Bway. I wrote down wanting to ask y'all about this but apparently didn't bother to write the reason why, but ik in bway Peng was scum under pretty consistent suspicion and it probably had to do with that. Maybe to like expand on the PD thoughts a bit, the best way i can put it is like Pds trying to have his cake and eat it too in my eyes(to some extent) Like, i think its fine to say “idt the trs / tls on prod are justified i could easily see him playing within scum range rn” as well as saying “we shouldnt give me a free pass” I think its another thing to then also vote me too on top of it. And say sl or whatever but thats just me tho See, my thoughts on early-game Peng here are that he’s basically saying what you put in quotes in the way Peng would. The vote feels fine to me given how early in the game it was, didn’t feel like he was calling for your death or anything, and his progression through d1 lines up with that. I don’t think it’s fair to town him for the read on me alone because a lot of its reasoning feels like piggybacking off of what other reasons have been previously mentioned or instinct based Fwiw on this, at the time I made my initial read on you idt many of those reasons had been mentioned yet in-thread. It feels like he could be going for a solve with what is apparent info to him and nothing much about the wallpost is super bad, but what leaves a sour taste in my mouth that makes me want to not hard town him is the Toni vote where he’s like “I have thoughts but you guys aren’t getting them just sheep me pls” Toni’s dead but to flesh out what was going on there: It’s in the vein of what people were referring to with Toni’s meta, but imo it’s not so much “Toni goes absent when playing Mafia” and moreso “Toni tends to go absent after day 1”, so my vote was moreso in the hopes of getting things worth reading from the slot before that happened. Actual Reads and Stuff Someone mentioned Fame not playing as aggressively as they do as scum and *champs fatigue notwithstanding* I agree on that (by which I mean there's a world where their reduced aggression is just nai), they started hitting stronger townvibes for me in particular somewhere around page 10 Wanna put more focus on Prod rn and examining the timing of his pushing on PD/Myan, since when I was reading through the thread it felt like it started getting more steam as he was able to get more comfortable in his own position (referencing the bolded above). Prod isn't doing any specific thing rn that pings me beyond this and part of this is definitely Advent paranoia, but I lowkey feel like if Fame/Prod/ck are all town we'll be in good shape so I wanna try and figure out if that's the world we live in Fwiw, you started at ~sl me would you be fine w/ explaining what caused you to change mindset? Also feels like he’s making a bigger deal of Peng’s initial read than it actually was. Maybe it’s because I’m having the same hesitance on Prod, but Peng’s progression makes sense to me just fine and doesn’t feel like the abrupt shift things like this make it out to be. If Peng wanted to put Prod into the PoE off a scum agenda, I don’t think this is how he’d go about it. Imo there’d be more coordination and focus in other areas in addition, but Peng mostly seems to be following an agenda of “don’t let Prod get complacent.” Lechen choosing dbd to focus on is a question mark, because scum!Lechen definitely has better uses of his time but I’m also surprised to see dbd be the initial focal point at all. if lechen is ever scum then dbd is prob spewed town off of that smogon meta comment but i have a hard time ever thinking scum lechen comes into the game on a site that isn't their home site to discredit someone they've played with before / has more experience with GTH I’m inclined to call them >rand town b/c in addition to this I think there’d be more intent behind the read if it was coming from scum, but I want more from them before committing to this. I had nebulous stuff I liked about Aligining and Vade but also plan to go back and check them out. Aligning feels better between the two rn because when I was more awake I could articulate what I liked about them more than just "vibes" turt looks town more off of posts like this ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/132266 for me their entrance wallpost looks pretty vapid and feeling based but the linked post makes it obvious they're observing the game a bit closer To me this level of observation is incongruous with much of the rest of their behavior so far I have other thoughts on turt incoming as well, my haphazard to-do list rn consists of: -Go back and look at NE's progression -Ask abt Myan scumlist -Look over PCB, especially at EoD -Look at Turt's EoD @turtwigswiththros hello! I have questions for you! Right now they mostly center around EoD1 A lot of your behavior regarding Myan doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I can't gauge the strength of your townread on them; to me it feels like it flucuated a lot in a very short timespan because you went from "Myan's not the vote today" to including them as a maybe in your votepool. I also didn't follow how Peng ended up in your votepool. Second, I want to know some of what was going through your head with your aligning vote at EoD. You said if the wagon on them didn't gain traction you'd vote for Crespo but didn't say much else, which to me feels like you were just kind of floating around and monitoring things and not as concerned with whether it did gain traction. On top of that, you made mention that you'd "go ahead and secure" plurality on Crespo without actually doing so, so I'm curious what stopped you (especially since Myan ended up coming in at the end and tying the vote). Lastly for rn, Myan and Turt are never partnered off that EoD imo, I think they'd be more coordinated in any sort of agenda they'd have there. Hi i wasnt ignoring this post btw ive been busy at work (idt im responding to everything i want to in 1 go so ill prob be coming back to this later) I wanted to talk about the point on Peng wrt Bway I feel like my stance on Peng rn is: it feels like hes veering off of his usual style of Town and kinda into that Bway part [like imo i feel like his play in bway was fairly different than any of his other play and i feel like his play here is also fairly different] Im not entirely convinced its mafia but im definitely not comfortable with putting it into town atm. [man this is gonna be annoying when i cant bold easily smh] [im gonna come back to this when im on pc so i can bold it / make it easily seeable] But to try to talk about it and hope what im referencing gets across, the point where Peng initially placed a vote on me D1, initially felt / came across more as an early SL / Sr instead of an attempted pressure vote, and this was from how i was interpreting what Peng was saying [putting this in here to say it was later refuted that it was actually just a pressure vote rather than an actual read] |
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Post by Turtwigswiththrohs on Jul 17, 2024 16:45:07 GMT
oh im defo dying now, bye bye guys Yeah I plotted this all out, I think it’s clear as daylight I must be an evil mastermind behind this plot. I saw your townie push on turt and knew, you would be an unstoppable force, I had to take control. So, I objectively analyze every single one of cases posts, pointing out her progression using real maybe fabricated posts from her iso, to come to a somewhat indecisive conclusion, she seems pushy she seems to be brute forcing, that’s odd. Then comes my partner STP, she points out a bit of weirdness too, I agree, but by then… STP says this is normal behaviour for vade, so she isn’t necessarily an sr, and I point out the pure raw emotion coming from her, maybe it really is just townie paranoia, there could be light in this tunnel. Man, we really are power wolfing you caught us, you saw right through our facade. I am tl’d by half the game, but you vade, you nulled me, and you sr’d turt, my obvious partner in crime. Just like that, our team is foiled. There is a raven looming above us, we are dead meat, we must kill that little bird… or else. STP is a boy lol |
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Post by creamykitty on Jul 17, 2024 16:45:53 GMT
Need to get the vade shot off what if I don't shoot vade unironically vade flips town I’d say don’t |
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Post by Prodigu on Jul 17, 2024 16:46:47 GMT
Btw i think like theres a good ~70-80% chance Fenrirs probably Town rn from how hes approaching my slot aside from like other things hes said / my own read
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Post by Turtwigswiththrohs on Jul 17, 2024 16:46:51 GMT
what if I don't shoot vade unironically vade flips town I’d say don’t ya I was prob voting in aligning/pcb/an afk slot |
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Post by slowthepoke on Jul 17, 2024 16:47:35 GMT
Need to get the vade shot off what if I don't shoot vade Then u can just die tommorow |
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Post by slowthepoke on Jul 17, 2024 16:48:04 GMT
unironically vade flips town I’d say don’t ya I was prob voting in aligning/pcb/an afk slot Nvm im bailing unvote |
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Post by Turtwigswiththrohs on Jul 17, 2024 16:48:15 GMT
what if I don't shoot vade Then u can just die tommorow if u want vade dead why not push for urself as a vote |
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Post by slowthepoke on Jul 17, 2024 16:48:23 GMT
Not happy with ck for that one tbh incredibly weird jow they switched up like that
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Post by Turtwigswiththrohs on Jul 17, 2024 16:48:32 GMT
I am also thinking about idling shot
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Post by slowthepoke on Jul 17, 2024 16:48:57 GMT
Then u can just die tommorow if u want vade dead why not push for urself as a vote Bc i wont be gunned anyways |
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Post by slowthepoke on Jul 17, 2024 16:49:07 GMT
I am also thinking about idling shot Yeah no |
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Post by vaderaven on Jul 17, 2024 16:49:18 GMT
>///<
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Post by slowthepoke on Jul 17, 2024 16:49:22 GMT
Ck get off of turt
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Post by creamykitty on Jul 17, 2024 16:50:11 GMT
Not happy with ck for that one tbh incredibly weird jow they switched up like that wdym I switched up, I literally said vade was leaning town for that post and I never sr’d her |
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Post by Turtwigswiththrohs on Jul 17, 2024 16:50:12 GMT
act ya get off me I don't wanna be blamed for misshooting I prob will if I am gunned |
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