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Post by Turtwigswiththrohs on Jul 15, 2024 13:33:33 GMT
Act ngl parts of the ck/Peng conversation seem contrived (purely based on vibes as all great reads are) what stands out about it as seeming fake? sorry it took so long to respond I was sleeping mb and I am ngl it's not really certain parts it's just like a small back and forth between you two and I know I shouldn't do his but it's basically just vibes that I came to this conclusion with idk man
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Post by Crespo on Jul 15, 2024 13:37:57 GMT
Gm its crespo and he’s off work
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Post by creamykitty on Jul 15, 2024 13:39:03 GMT
ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/132259/threadIn my opinion, this post was what made turt somewhat tl'd by a huge majority of players and while its not AI, I would argue that this seems like turt reading just for the sake of reading, and even though their assessment of me was fair, as I was inactive, but it feels a bit of trying to poke a slot to do somethin for towncred rather than genuinely interesting in my playing of the game. Especially after they have not looked into my interactions or other posts that would normally come out of poking someone. Their unpartnering comment was also weird, and out of scope imo ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/132279/threadps-mafia.proboards.com/post/132247/threadThen there's these posts which strike out to me as odd and out of place, as they have been prodded and poked about these statements multiple times and it just feels like turt is ignoring them atp. They also seem to be relying on a lot of pmeta, which is fine, but would love to see this slot start reading with the info we have at hand. This slot is a very slight sl for me right now, but then again, could be easily NAI. Might also be interesting to mention turt's pmeta usually of not being confident in putting reads out as confortably as town, as I have seen from turt as my hydra partner. and then she made this post like an hour later with nothing in between kinda suddenly scumreading me and in some ways it feels like she has only really read like two posts of mine like I would like a little more from this slot before they go out and vote me typically I think they would know better than this not sure tho lol. Also with the point of my activity being higher, some games like hydra as well I had a higher activity and the reads I gave weren't exactly "reads" they were more of just small analysises from skimming through the beginning of the thread. As well with the pmeta point that is completely untrue imo my posts have not been relying on pmeta at all (depends what you count as pmeta) and not all of them were thought out completely but tbh I feel like yours have been kinda the same way os at least think about how you are playing as well because I could scumread you for the same reasons (and probably more) whatever tho I guess it's only 1 vote tbh you don’t have that many posts and a lot of them just go with the general consensus so I understand why vade would be using such little posts to draw a conclusion, also think that is something that lines up with how vade plays imo. Turt’s prodding of slots is really a normal thing to do to get info and generate comfortable, unique reads especially if you’re kinda late entering the thread I can understand how that could give you the illusion of them not trying to solve but I think the effort is there. I agree with their reads feeling like they are kinda piggybacking off others but their recent posts have gone away from that and like I said I think it’s a natural byproduct of a late thread entrance. When it comes to turts pmeta, you feel kinda shaky on it and that’s not really what I want to go into right now because it can easily go either way.
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Post by Crespo on Jul 15, 2024 13:40:00 GMT
I haven’t actually read in depth past the first couple of pages but upon reading every cl/fame post here and there they look partnered if 1 flips scum
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Post by creamykitty on Jul 15, 2024 13:41:58 GMT
what stands out about it as seeming fake? sorry it took so long to respond I was sleeping mb and I am ngl it's not really certain parts it's just like a small back and forth between you two and I know I shouldn't do his but it's basically just vibes that I came to this conclusion with idk man Fair enough if you get those vibes, I think it just comes from me not really being able to read peng well enough and having some odd lines trying to figure him out
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Post by vaderaven on Jul 15, 2024 13:43:05 GMT
If I'm being real chat, turt's more recent posts are shifting from me sl'ing them to a solid sr.
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Post by creamykitty on Jul 15, 2024 13:49:18 GMT
realraven moment?
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Post by Turtwigswiththrohs on Jul 15, 2024 14:01:48 GMT
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Post by Prodigu on Jul 15, 2024 14:07:26 GMT
Actually vote@myanmario I feel like this is more productive than keeping my rvs vote on lechen While i do agree @ck that both myan and pd have some weirdness to them atm (imo) im not sure if both would be mafia like fwiw its more likely imo only 1 of them is mafia here than both of them tbh if there is a mafia in the 2 of them ehhh idk, there is literally nothing from them that could help me either partner or unpartner them so I don’t wanna delve into that territory, I think they are just both weird slots individually Yea there isnt much to unpartner them but my thinking was along the lines of like —> “surely they both dont vote me and are partnered” Id like to sort/ resolve the weirdness out if possible PD spicy voting me (and being wrong abt it) feels like it could be T PD but i feel like the justification of “prod is playing within scum range therefore he must be scum” is a weird way of going abt things even if i do get the concern from PD where he saw me get a free pass all of last game and saw how badly that ended up (where we were partners)
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Post by Prodigu on Jul 15, 2024 14:08:49 GMT
i honestly thought aligning would be here more tbh kinda surprised he hasnt been in thread all that much kinda disappointed i havent seen ne / aligning / lechen more this game so far, ik its a slow start and all but id like to have seen more think the only ppl that havent said anything are wut myan/ne/lechen/turt? maybe +1/2 more this was 6 am mine bro, was busy yesterday afternoon as well Ur good its no big deal, i saw you got towned pretty decently in black dnommy so i was hoping to be able to do the same here
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Post by creamykitty on Jul 15, 2024 14:10:42 GMT
ehhh idk, there is literally nothing from them that could help me either partner or unpartner them so I don’t wanna delve into that territory, I think they are just both weird slots individually Yea there isnt much to unpartner them but my thinking was along the lines of like —> “surely they both dont vote me and are partnered” Id like to sort/ resolve the weirdness out if possible PD spicy voting me (and being wrong abt it) feels like it could be T PD but i feel like the justification of “prod is playing within scum range therefore he must be scum” is a weird way of going abt things even if i do get the concern from PD where he saw me get a free pass all of last game and saw how badly that ended up (where we were partners) Oh I kinda lost count of votes and missed that so you’re right, and yeah pretty much everything we’ve pointed out about peng still applies to me
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Post by vaderaven on Jul 15, 2024 14:37:14 GMT
Before I devolve into a dtunneling spiral, woul dlike to ask your guy's opinions of the twt slot, I;m open and I want to see why people seem to tl him here as well. I want to see what the thoughts on the slot are
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Post by vaderaven on Jul 15, 2024 14:43:14 GMT
ill be reading back so lmk if u have questions, once again
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Post by Prodigu on Jul 15, 2024 14:56:10 GMT
That’s true but you can’t necessarily say they are playing within their scum meta as well with this logic Your sl feels like “Well yeah they aren’t scummy, but what if they are scum I’m kinda scared” yeah this is basically exactly what i thought too seems like a longwinded explanation for it essentially being a vote made for pressure purposes I just saw this, and its something i actually kinda like tbh it kinda puts my ~general thoughts on pengs approach on my slot into words I wanna expand a bit on the Fame read i have but mobile doesnt let me multiquote 😡 but theres several posts from Fame that feel generally inquisitive (i think im repeating myself tbh) and like Fame is trying to prompt various players about various topics that imo sits well w/ me. Once im on pc later i can do a multiquote to kinda put them together but it was something i saw while reading through iso and wanted to touch on it / bring it up while i actively had the thought abt it
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Post by Prodigu on Jul 15, 2024 15:02:41 GMT
yeah this is basically exactly what i thought too seems like a longwinded explanation for it essentially being a vote made for pressure purposes I just saw this, and its something i actually kinda like tbh it kinda puts my ~general thoughts on pengs approach on my slot into words I wanna expand a bit on the Fame read i have but mobile doesnt let me multiquote 😡 but theres several posts from Fame that feel generally inquisitive (i think im repeating myself tbh) and like Fame is trying to prompt various players about various topics that imo sits well w/ me. Once im on pc later i can do a multiquote to kinda put them together but it was something i saw while reading through iso and wanted to touch on it / bring it up while i actively had the thought abt it Maybe to like expand on the PD thoughts a bit, the best way i can put it is like Pds trying to have his cake and eat it too in my eyes(to some extent) Like, i think its fine to say “idt the trs / tls on prod are justified i could easily see him playing within scum range rn” as well as saying “we shouldnt give me a free pass” I think its another thing to then also vote me too on top of it. And say sl or whatever but thats just me tho
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Post by creamykitty on Jul 15, 2024 15:05:58 GMT
yeah this is basically exactly what i thought too seems like a longwinded explanation for it essentially being a vote made for pressure purposes I just saw this, and its something i actually kinda like tbh it kinda puts my ~general thoughts on pengs approach on my slot into words I wanna expand a bit on the Fame read i have but mobile doesnt let me multiquote 😡 but theres several posts from Fame that feel generally inquisitive (i think im repeating myself tbh) and like Fame is trying to prompt various players about various topics that imo sits well w/ me. Once im on pc later i can do a multiquote to kinda put them together but it was something i saw while reading through iso and wanted to touch on it / bring it up while i actively had the thought abt it Not being able to multiquote on mobile is so real I’m playing the entire game on my phone and not being able to multiquote is super annoying. I get what you’re saying about fame though like there are so many posts from them where they are prodding people and just trying to get as much thoughts and reads out of the pl as possible for this d1, I feel thrown off by how strong their trs are but I like everything else fame has put out
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Post by creamykitty on Jul 15, 2024 15:07:43 GMT
I just saw this, and its something i actually kinda like tbh it kinda puts my ~general thoughts on pengs approach on my slot into words I wanna expand a bit on the Fame read i have but mobile doesnt let me multiquote 😡 but theres several posts from Fame that feel generally inquisitive (i think im repeating myself tbh) and like Fame is trying to prompt various players about various topics that imo sits well w/ me. Once im on pc later i can do a multiquote to kinda put them together but it was something i saw while reading through iso and wanted to touch on it / bring it up while i actively had the thought abt it Maybe to like expand on the PD thoughts a bit, the best way i can put it is like Pds trying to have his cake and eat it too in my eyes(to some extent) Like, i think its fine to say “idt the trs / tls on prod are justified i could easily see him playing within scum range rn” as well as saying “we shouldnt give me a free pass” I think its another thing to then also vote me too on top of it. And say sl or whatever but thats just me tho Yeah I could totally understand peng having you as a null here but I think voting you and having you as a sl doesn’t at all line up with the justification he has put out for it
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Post by creamykitty on Jul 15, 2024 15:15:51 GMT
Before I devolve into a dtunneling spiral, woul dlike to ask your guy's opinions of the twt slot, I;m open and I want to see why people seem to tl him here as well. I want to see what the thoughts on the slot are Honestly now that I reflect on it, I think me tring turt is really a heavy vibe thing and I think I might be giving him too much credit, I still think he is town but I should tone it down until I see more
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Post by Fame on Jul 15, 2024 15:32:40 GMT
so you think it's a townie note for fenrir then? i think you're right on that comment being kind of ai or something close to it but not for this reason the interesting part for me is just looking at how well acquainted players interact with one another in thread because it's often very different to how two less acquainted players will interact so on that note, Prodigu , do you think that post is something fen would reasonably suspect you for based on your time playing games w/ him? in the past we've played games and you usually have ideas about his slot based on how he's treating you so just wondering if that applies here at all Hiiiii i just got to work so im playing catch up for a bit If were talking about Fenrir talking about me w/ that comment to CK (which im psure we are) Imo. I think its a weird thing to get hung up about at least when i was posting it, i didnt think much of it tbh Given like the amount of content in thread at the time I could get the angle of “id like to comment on something” Id like to see more of Fenrir (and its not a comment that gives me hard mafia vibes imo) id be more concerned if Fen towned me immediately and moved on well that does happen to be what he did in hope+1 !
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Post by Fame on Jul 15, 2024 15:33:25 GMT
Before I devolve into a dtunneling spiral, woul dlike to ask your guy's opinions of the twt slot, I;m open and I want to see why people seem to tl him here as well. I want to see what the thoughts on the slot are Honestly now that I reflect on it, I think me tring turt is really a heavy vibe thing and I think I might be giving him too much credit, I still think he is town but I should tone it down until I see more is anything weakening your townread on him now that he's posted more today
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Post by Fame on Jul 15, 2024 15:34:06 GMT
I haven’t actually read in depth past the first couple of pages but upon reading every cl/fame post here and there they look partnered if 1 flips scum why partnered vs unpartnered
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Post by creamykitty on Jul 15, 2024 15:39:34 GMT
Honestly now that I reflect on it, I think me tring turt is really a heavy vibe thing and I think I might be giving him too much credit, I still think he is town but I should tone it down until I see more is anything weakening your townread on him now that he's posted more today Tbh not really, it’s rather that I gave him too much towncred for his posts and not that he has done anything bad recently, if anything I do actually like his recent posts
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Post by commanderawesome on Jul 15, 2024 15:47:00 GMT
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Post by Prodigu on Jul 15, 2024 15:48:11 GMT
Hiiiii i just got to work so im playing catch up for a bit If were talking about Fenrir talking about me w/ that comment to CK (which im psure we are) Imo. I think its a weird thing to get hung up about at least when i was posting it, i didnt think much of it tbh Given like the amount of content in thread at the time I could get the angle of “id like to comment on something” Id like to see more of Fenrir (and its not a comment that gives me hard mafia vibes imo) id be more concerned if Fen towned me immediately and moved on well that does happen to be what he did in hope+1 ! Yea thats why i clued into him in h+1 b/c of the way he approached my slot there, here it doesnt feel like he did the same thing like (idt he towned me earlier and felt questioning?) like i said, i want a larger sample size so to speak I wanna say i got slight townie vibes earlier from him id have to reread iso to see if i still agree w/ that sentiment or not I dont want Fenrir voted though (fwiw, idt me you or fenrir are “good” d1 votes unless theres something glaringly bad) ik its like a bad approach to kind of take ppl off the table / give free passes (im not looking to give free passes) but the justification moreso is that like unless one of us / someone can find a *really* strong actual case for one of us being maf rather than fear monger the slots idt this pool should be viable d1 votes
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Post by Prodigu on Jul 15, 2024 15:51:10 GMT
The fact that theres 2 votes on me,
1 from PD who felt like that went a round about way to justify it
And the 2nd from Myan (which i have a hard time believing is a real town member atm)
And im the highest wagon is bad especially when neither slots rly done anything to attempt to pressure me or question or anything like that and they dropped the votes and didnt do much more with them
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