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Post by Prodigu on Jul 15, 2024 18:11:00 GMT
oh I was busy sorry so you and vade have little interaction rly and the one post from vade saying she was about to say the same thing on page like 13 or 14 idk it seems kinda forced and I will try to make a bigger post on this im not done explaining yet will quote some stuff too Kk continue explaining, Think one big question you should be approaching / grappling with though is “Does Mafia Prod intentionally avoid interaction w/ partner vade” like Is it more conceiveable that I as mafia would make an attempt to interact w/ my partners in thread or do you think id lean more towards avoiding them in thread? Fwiw r u able to explain why it feels forced a bit more? Like why cant it be bad timing / etc in your eyes? Wanna put this thought here while i have it btw (I disagree with turt) (obvs ik the answer) But fwiw it feels less agendad than trying to force a partnership btwn me and vade, like i think its a realistic thing to think and is less likely to be coming from mafia attempting to push agenda / fakeness And is more likely from a T perspective ill give a reread of Turt later but this post in particular caught my attention while i was thinking Gonna give Turt and Pcb rereads and place alignments on them later and put a readlist for current thoughts once i have the chance
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Post by PenguinD on Jul 15, 2024 18:31:36 GMT
hi am back, ck is townlean off their line of questioning towards me, how theyve reacted to my slot since then makes sense prod is an ok slot right now turt is lowkey completely town, i dont see from a scum perspective as to why drop a random scumread on vad and prod i like the fame slot so far, but i feel like its not enough to push them towards town yet i hate that myan's vote could literally just be them picking 3 names to scumread then voting one of them, still null to me overall
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Post by PenguinD on Jul 15, 2024 18:32:15 GMT
will still have my vote on prod, but will likely shift before dl i swear
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Post by creamykitty on Jul 15, 2024 18:34:59 GMT
will still have my vote on prod, but will likely shift before dl i swear To who exactly rn, myan? Would wanna hear what gives your new perspective on prod or what makes you think there’s a slot you wanna shift to?
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Post by PenguinD on Jul 15, 2024 18:38:12 GMT
will still have my vote on prod, but will likely shift before dl i swear To who exactly rn, myan? Would wanna hear what gives your new perspective on prod or what makes you think there’s a slot you wanna shift to? i think prod can still be either alignment, i haveent decided a slot to shift to but idt null prod is a real vote here
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Post by creamykitty on Jul 15, 2024 18:38:22 GMT
vote @myanmario
At this point I think peng is starting to put some effort into a solve and reconsidering their thoughts, now I want pressure on myan.
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Post by Prodigu on Jul 15, 2024 18:40:25 GMT
To who exactly rn, myan? Would wanna hear what gives your new perspective on prod or what makes you think there’s a slot you wanna shift to? i think prod can still be either alignment, i haveent decided a slot to shift to but idt null prod is a real vote here Fwiw, you started at ~sl me would you be fine w/ explaining what caused you to change mindset?
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Post by creamykitty on Jul 15, 2024 18:40:27 GMT
To who exactly rn, myan? Would wanna hear what gives your new perspective on prod or what makes you think there’s a slot you wanna shift to? i think prod can still be either alignment, i haveent decided a slot to shift to but idt null prod is a real vote here Yeah completely reasonable here, I still think prod is town but your mentality of not wanting to give out free passes sounds townie on your part, what I thought previously was that you simply seemed too hard to be stretching for a reason to sr prod
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Post by PokeCartBeast on Jul 15, 2024 18:40:45 GMT
- do not vote d1 - pokecartbeast creamykitty nightemerald fame fenrir - would rather not be voted d1 - turtwigswiththrohs aligningstars vaderaven prodigu crespo penguind - fine to axe - saltiestcactus23 lechen myanmario tiers are ordered, i refuse to elaborate anything here kinda feels like your axe list is like scraping the barrel a bit saltiestcactus has 1 post, lechen has like less than 5 probably & myan has less than 5 too probably i mean i could move the "fine to axe" pool to include vade through pd but i feel like those slots have all done enough to not warrant being axed d1 prod had some ~sheepable comments on pd meta and i honestly found pd's reasoning to vote prod fine, toni has terrible activity but i found myself agreeing with earlier points + toni had similarly shaky activity in white dn so i don't get the pmeta read on them, prod i'm still not super confident on reading town but they're contributing enough readswise to warrant having a pass for d1, vade also has trended upwards in general as the slot has developed reads
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Post by PokeCartBeast on Jul 15, 2024 18:41:41 GMT
kinda feels like your axe list is like scraping the barrel a bit saltiestcactus has 1 post, lechen has like less than 5 probably & myan has less than 5 too probably i mean i could move the "fine to axe" pool to include vade through pd but i feel like those slots have all done enough to not warrant being axed d1 prod had some ~sheepable comments on pd meta and i honestly found pd's reasoning to vote prod fine, toni has terrible activity but i found myself agreeing with earlier points + toni had similarly shaky activity in white dn so i don't get the pmeta read on them, prod i'm still not super confident on reading town but they're contributing enough readswise to warrant having a pass for d1, vade also has trended upwards in general as the slot has developed reads i will say i think i overrated fenrir/ne in comparison to other slots this game and in hindsight they should probably be around the top of "probably don't axe" readswise
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Post by PokeCartBeast on Jul 15, 2024 18:43:04 GMT
vote @myanmario At this point I think peng is starting to put some effort into a solve and reconsidering their thoughts, now I want pressure on myan. vote @myanmario wagon time
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Post by PenguinD on Jul 15, 2024 18:43:05 GMT
i think prod can still be either alignment, i haveent decided a slot to shift to but idt null prod is a real vote here Fwiw, you started at ~sl me would you be fine w/ explaining what caused you to change mindset? i never had a scumlean on you ? i voted you with intent to pressure later on, but that never became a thing. ive had the same stance on your slot throughout game
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Post by creamykitty on Jul 15, 2024 18:43:47 GMT
vote @myanmario At this point I think peng is starting to put some effort into a solve and reconsidering their thoughts, now I want pressure on myan. This quick shift on my part that comes before peng even really explains their mindset shift is simply because I was planning on going to myan anyways
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Post by PokeCartBeast on Jul 15, 2024 18:44:16 GMT
speaking of fenrir i would like to see more content from them i found their initial posts very townie but they've fallen off activity wise
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Post by PenguinD on Jul 15, 2024 18:44:44 GMT
i think prod can still be either alignment, i haveent decided a slot to shift to but idt null prod is a real vote here Yeah completely reasonable here, I still think prod is town but your mentality of not wanting to give out free passes sounds townie on your part, what I thought previously was that you simply seemed too hard to be stretching for a reason to sr prod mm why do you think prod is town here? imo i feel like its easier to feign being town on d1 bc there are no flips to work with and it feels harder to put someone into townpool off just d1 play
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Post by creamykitty on Jul 15, 2024 18:45:55 GMT
Fwiw, you started at ~sl me would you be fine w/ explaining what caused you to change mindset? i never had a scumlean on you ? i voted you with intent to pressure later on, but that never became a thing. ive had the same stance on your slot throughout game Ok, tbh it felt like you were trying to hint at prod being scum but I think I might have looked too hard into it
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Post by PokeCartBeast on Jul 15, 2024 18:47:23 GMT
Yeah completely reasonable here, I still think prod is town but your mentality of not wanting to give out free passes sounds townie on your part, what I thought previously was that you simply seemed too hard to be stretching for a reason to sr prod mm why do you think prod is town here? imo i feel like its easier to feign being town on d1 bc there are no flips to work with and it feels harder to put someone into townpool off just d1 play i agree with the sentiment that prod shouldn't be a very confident tr this early on but it's absolutely not easier to fake townie behavior as scum d1 in fact its almost harder (imo)
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Post by Prodigu on Jul 15, 2024 18:47:36 GMT
Fwiw, you started at ~sl me would you be fine w/ explaining what caused you to change mindset? i never had a scumlean on you ? i voted you with intent to pressure later on, but that never became a thing. ive had the same stance on your slot throughout game Ok i misunderstood what you were saying earlier then which is fine, the way you were going about it seemed that way
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Post by PenguinD on Jul 15, 2024 18:48:14 GMT
speaking of fenrir i would like to see more content from them i found their initial posts very townie but they've fallen off activity wise what about fenrir's initial posts makes it feel townie? from what i saw, it felt a bit safe? then their line about threadcamping that never came into fruition i feel like is a line scum makes to look town
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Post by PokeCartBeast on Jul 15, 2024 18:50:55 GMT
speaking of fenrir i would like to see more content from them i found their initial posts very townie but they've fallen off activity wise what about fenrir's initial posts makes it feel townie? from what i saw, it felt a bit safe? then their line about threadcamping that never came into fruition i feel like is a line scum makes to look town the entire train of thought about the CK read felt genuine imo
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Post by creamykitty on Jul 15, 2024 18:56:45 GMT
Yeah completely reasonable here, I still think prod is town but your mentality of not wanting to give out free passes sounds townie on your part, what I thought previously was that you simply seemed too hard to be stretching for a reason to sr prod mm why do you think prod is town here? imo i feel like its easier to feign being town on d1 bc there are no flips to work with and it feels harder to put someone into townpool off just d1 play I think it is mainly how prod is going around interactions, they ask questions and put down thoughts whenever necessary which I think gives off vibes of a townie who is looking to hear as much from everyone as possible to make an informed decision and it really lacks any kind of scum agenda to it. They are also not really afraid to put attention in themselves or any potential scum partners in general. Lines such as their early comment about me wanting to pressure slots you know and actually putting out their thoughts on that in some depth, pretty much all of their strategies and hypotheticals like that feels like something S!prod wouldn’t be putting so much energy in to rather than just looking to take some slots and push them into the guillotine. I also appreciate how aggressively prod has tried to sort out slots especially recently, as I think it is the key to getting a win for town here.
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Post by creamykitty on Jul 15, 2024 19:41:58 GMT
what about fenrir's initial posts makes it feel townie? from what i saw, it felt a bit safe? then their line about threadcamping that never came into fruition i feel like is a line scum makes to look town the entire train of thought about the CK read felt genuine imo I don’t think it’s fair to town him for the read on me alone because a lot of its reasoning feels like piggybacking off of what other reasons have been previously mentioned or instinct based
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Post by creamykitty on Jul 15, 2024 19:44:27 GMT
It feels like he could be going for a solve with what is apparent info to him and nothing much about the wallpost is super bad, but what leaves a sour taste in my mouth that makes me want to not hard town him is the Toni vote where he’s like “I have thoughts but you guys aren’t getting them just sheep me pls”
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Post by creamykitty on Jul 15, 2024 19:46:26 GMT
Reason I cut some slack for him in terms of the read on me is because he likely didn’t have time to really read over, interact with and get a hang of the thread so it isn’t really scummy for him to just copycat the reads on big present townie
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Post by creamykitty on Jul 15, 2024 19:54:01 GMT
Actually tbf there were a few lines he took a look at about me that were unique and not really brought up before like that comment from prod so I take back what I said about him piggybacking, I still don’t like the Toni vote though…
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