Inner Struggle (Abandoned)

[TheWhoDoctor]

Mar 3, 2015 19:43:33 GMT Fort Colorcastle said:

Citrus was converted by TWD confirmed. Seriously, look at Citrus's summary of what happened >.> How on earth does that not make TWD come off as scum?
For self preservation, because I do believe my role (Modified Vanilliaser) will come in handy.

Vanilla-ising a claimed, unCCed investigative role is a horrid idea.

Unlynch Fort Firing Flamethrowers, Lynch PikaCal

[Spieky]

? i wasn't paying attention

[Deleted]

My word Spieky. Lynch PikaCal please...

[pikacal]

Mar 3, 2015 16:34:10 GMT pikacal said:

Right ok guys. Why the whole sudden push? I mean like, you've been really really jumpy between people today citrus :/ I just don't want to be wrong here, and a lot of variables are being manifested at irregular intervals. Alright, understandable.   , and wanting to lynch me or twd is a bit redundant. We're both possible "possible..." Slip of the tongue, perchance?  No, not at all. I'm just trying to view this as I'm just a bystander to this whole game. I want to see all sides of this and take a look to see whether things are logical and I don't want to be a redundancy to town.Besides, it's not like i'm bloody confirmed yet. It's a claim, albeit not counterclaimed, and it's possible that we could both be informative roles.  nformative roles and I don't see the point in lynching us.Any other ideas? Nobody outside of you, TWD, and Fort have been FOSed (except for me what with Rabac and micc D1 .-.), so "don't lynch between me and TWD" is either saying "lynch Fort" which you have not done, or "no lynch", in which case C7 is your man.  Wow yeah, my logic was flawed there, I can see what you mean. What I mean I guess was just bring up the fact that we're focusing on the two investigative roles, where there are many people about that haven't really been touched on like you said. Next day we really need to take a look and analyse more people. Would make sense.    It's redundant as hell. Results are still results, and I think we're both pretty beneficial to town how so, if you can't even provide logical evidence of your innocence,  Oh well, let's see. Logical actions, results and analysis thus far? Check. Me performing my action on odm on night one? I personally just wanted to check him out and to make sure he was not doing that to draw attention away from himself. It could have been a logical strategy for him to try. Not really sure what else to cover, but feel free to ask me questions, I wouldn't mind answering them.      even if we both are in the spotlight for this.  Can we not talk about this tomorrow and hope to gain some more knowledge on the situation?

Would type more on your big post, but I really don't have time atm. Just summarised a couple of my

(Wow what a bitch to format.)
Possibly more coming in another post, not sure though.

[pikacal]

Also on the subject of villies etc. The whole flavour of the theme is based on being who you want etc. Why the fuck would you choose to be a villager. That would be the crappiest choice someone could make. Seeing as I'm pretty much dead by the looks of things, there isn't shit I can do. But next day, maybe you guys should look at those claims etc. May be worth you time.

Anyway, seeing as it's the person I've been focused on, lynch thewhodoctor
Not really much I can do. I can't bloody help that lynch, and I'm personally not letting myself get lynched. Town requires me for information, and should keep me. If they don't bother, oh well good luck. I hope you guys can at least get my perspective however from the last post. Good luck whatever the outcome I suppose.

[Spieky]

llynch pikacalzone

[Fort Colorcastle]

Citrus/TWD scumteam. Still think that,

[Deleted]

Mar 3, 2015 22:40:59 GMT pikacal said:

Also on the subject of villies etc. The whole flavour of the theme is based on being who you want etc. Why the fuck would you choose to be a villager. That would be the crappiest choice someone could make. Seeing as I'm pretty much dead by the looks of things, there isn't shit I can do. But next day, maybe you guys should look at those claims etc. May be worth you time.

Anyway, seeing as it's the person I've been focused on, lynch thewhodoctor
Not really much I can do. I can't bloody help that lynch, and I'm personally not letting myself get lynched. Town requires me for information, and should keep me. If they don't bother, oh well good luck. I hope you guys can at least get my perspective however from the last post. Good luck whatever the outcome I suppose.

 HOLY FREAKING COW
>Claims not to be mafia, thus logically entailing that he must be town, this logically entailing that Mob Boss did not chose his role for him
>Does not realize that villagers chose FLAVORING, not their roles (villager being a role, not a flavor)
>Would have known that if he were town and actually chose his own flavor role
>WTH
This is what we call 'confirmation' right here. Fort Colorcastle, Mob Boss, are you proud of me? I just did right there what you two did to me in Mine Craft Mafia, when I was mafia. Unless you wanna fight for fifty more pages pikacal.

[Deleted]

Fort Colorcastle I keep highlighting your posts expecting you to hide a secret message in there .-.
Anyways goodbye guys I die tonight.

[macle]

isn't it normal to track a villager to see if they are lying? Also why are you dying?

[macle]

wow missed a whole page

[Fort Colorcastle]

Mar 4, 2015 0:31:23 GMT Citrus Freak said:

Mar 3, 2015 22:40:59 GMT pikacal said:

Also on the subject of villies etc. The whole flavour of the theme is based on being who you want etc. Why the fuck would you choose to be a villager. That would be the crappiest choice someone could make. Seeing as I'm pretty much dead by the looks of things, there isn't shit I can do. But next day, maybe you guys should look at those claims etc. May be worth you time.

Anyway, seeing as it's the person I've been focused on, lynch thewhodoctor
Not really much I can do. I can't bloody help that lynch, and I'm personally not letting myself get lynched. Town requires me for information, and should keep me. If they don't bother, oh well good luck. I hope you guys can at least get my perspective however from the last post. Good luck whatever the outcome I suppose.

 HOLY FREAKING COW
>Claims not to be mafia, thus logically entailing that he must be town, this logically entailing that Mob Boss did not chose his role for him
>Does not realize that villagers chose FLAVORING, not their roles (villager being a role, not a flavor)
>Would have known that if he were town and actually chose his own flavor role
>WTH
This is what we call 'confirmation' right here. Fort Colorcastle, Mob Boss, are you proud of me? I just did right there what you two did to me in Mine Craft Mafia, when I was mafia. Unless you wanna fight for fifty more pages pikacal.

Ok this one actually makes a good argument. /me notices that I already lynched the pizza.

Gj citrus I'm proud of you. Also gj mafia with the mass, mass, MASS framing of TWD.

/me gives Citrus a Pineapple n_n

[macle]

oh i understand now

lynch pikacal

[Stir]

Mar 4, 2015 0:31:23 GMT Citrus Freak said:

Mar 3, 2015 22:40:59 GMT pikacal said:

Also on the subject of villies etc. The whole flavour of the theme is based on being who you want etc. Why the fuck would you choose to be a villager. That would be the crappiest choice someone could make. Seeing as I'm pretty much dead by the looks of things, there isn't shit I can do. But next day, maybe you guys should look at those claims etc. May be worth you time.

Anyway, seeing as it's the person I've been focused on, lynch thewhodoctor
Not really much I can do. I can't bloody help that lynch, and I'm personally not letting myself get lynched. Town requires me for information, and should keep me. If they don't bother, oh well good luck. I hope you guys can at least get my perspective however from the last post. Good luck whatever the outcome I suppose.

 HOLY FREAKING COW
>Claims not to be mafia, thus logically entailing that he must be town, this logically entailing that Mob Boss did not chose his role for him
>Does not realize that villagers chose FLAVORING, not their roles (villager being a role, not a flavor)
>Would have known that if he were town and actually chose his own flavor role
>WTH
This is what we call 'confirmation' right here.

I don't even need to explain why I'm doing this.

Unlynch TheWhoDoctor, Lynch PikaCal

[TheWhoDoctor]

If we have a doctor role, can you kindly cover me? I am an unCCed investigative role after all and could help town greatly.

[Deleted]

TWD, I think you know who to go on tonight. Alright?

[Deleted]

So, I've four thoughts to note for the rest of the game.
1) Being uncc'd does not clear you, mafia have like a ~1/2 chance of guessing a right flavor because of their flavors and the flavors of dead people.
2) If PikaCal, the mafia, believed in his 'townie logic. that claiming a villager was scummy, then surely the other mafia would yave believed this also--thus anyone who claimed villager prior to this point (just Rabac and ODM) are nigh-clear.
3) The PikaCal--Fort relationship was similar to the Azumi A.--Kimyo N. relationship of Game fourteen in PS! Anon. Fort A) bandwagoned on the ongoing TWD without adding any thoughts of his own, B) has been fillering, offering virtually no sybstance in his posts, and C) chainsaw-defended PikaCal. Chainsaw defense is where you defend someone by attacking their attackers; it's used because it looks like you're scumhunting while actually casting doubts on the truthfulness of an ally's enemy. Read about it on Mafia Scum Wiki, just do a quick Google search.
4) I believe Fort and Spieky should be our next targets. Spieky has not helped at all with anything at all, and he still shied away from lynching PikaCal when he had the initial opportunity.

[Deleted]

At first I thought you were joking when you said I was converted, but you said it multiple times, conveying the sense you weren't joking, and you never did redact it, even after admitting I was right (FINALLY I WAS RIGHT) about PikaCal.

[Fort Colorcastle]

Mar 4, 2015 13:47:08 GMT Citrus Freak said:

At first I thought you were joking when you said I was converted, but you said it multiple times, conveying the sense you weren't joking, and you never did redact it, even after admitting I was right (FINALLY I WAS RIGHT) about PikaCal.

I still dunno based off of your massive direction change overnight. I guess a bunch of things could've happened, including your role. Ehhhhhh /me lynch citrus <<< joke b/c no bold

Also fuck PSanon.

I could honestly say the same Chainsaw defense argument about you protecting TWD. Though you do seem to be right. Cultists are unlikely I guess. But your overnight change of heart has my suspicions raised. Not an FoS, that one is still at TWD. just watching you.

Also should I be trying to get rid of a ninja Citrus?

[Fort Colorcastle]

^lmfao at that. Say I think ur scummy, then ask you for advice. Ggnore
Ok fine I admit it ur a pineapple.

[Deleted]

Mar 4, 2015 16:01:15 GMT Fort Colorcastle said:

Mar 4, 2015 13:47:08 GMT Citrus Freak said:

At first I thought you were joking when you said I was converted, but you said it multiple times, conveying the sense you weren't joking, and you never did redact it, even after admitting I was right (FINALLY I WAS RIGHT) about PikaCal.

I still dunno based off of your massive direction change overnight. I guess a bunch of things could've happened, including your role. Ehhhhhh /me lynch citrus <<< joke b/c no bold

Also fuck PSanon.

I could honestly say the same Chainsaw defense argument about you protecting TWD. Though you do seem to be right. Cultists are unlikely I guess. But your overnight change of heart has my suspicions raised. Not an FoS, that one is still at TWD. just watching you.

Also should I be trying to get rid of a ninja Citrus?

Here's the order of events today:
-Me/Rabac/Stir start lynching TWD automatically
-You jump on the lynch wagon. This was the only constructive thing you've done for the game up to that point since subbing.
-Rabac expresses doubt at the way you are acting, and whether or not TWD is mafia. He unlynches to be safe.
-I look back and realize that you were acting strangely with that bandwagon, and unlynch TWD to be safe
-I get wrapped up with the fact that PikaCal correctly said that macle didn't visit anyone (!) so I vacillate and say that both TWD and PikaCal are clear, let's turn our attention to Fort
-Me/Rabac lynch Fort
-Fort claims Astro Boy
-TWD lynches Fort
-micc sees the flaw in my argument, explains why PikaCal's 'tracking' was likely wrong, lynches him.
-I continue to parade my false logic, trying to get micc to go on Fort, luckily to no avail.
-Fort continues to say that TWD is scum. He claims Astro Boy is a role-annihilator, can say an action-role and vanillise it.
-I realize micc was right about PikaCal, and lynch the latter (I didn't apologize in those posts for being wrong which I should have so I'm doing now, sorry)
-Fort says, "Come on guys, TWD is confirmed scum!" and suggests I was converted. I thought this was a joke.
-I continue beating the PikaCal scumdrum.
-Deadline nears, Fort does not take his vote off of TWD and put it on PikaCal, even though it would mean saving his own life.
-Extension requested from all parties.
-Fort repeats that I may have been converted, suggests a Me/TWD scumteam.
-After more beating of the PikaCal scumdrum on my part, Fort relents and votes PikaCal. TWD follows soon thereafter.
-Spieky randomly appears, does nothing, does not vote PikaCal.
-PikaCal attempts to defend himself, lynches TWD, Spieky reappears and lynches PikaCalzone
-I find irrefutable proof in his logic that PikaCal is scum, even Fort relents.
-Stir and macle lynch PikaCal, unlynching whoever they had before.
-I accuse Fort of being scummy for the events of today.
-He turns around and suggests I was chainsaw defending TWD myself. OMGUS.

So, guys, what say ye? Lynch him tomorrow?
May I be so bold as to make some enemies here besides Fort? I mildly FOS macle because PikaCal knew he visited nobody last night, and I moderatrely FOS Spieky for doing nothing, absolutely nothing, for us except lynching PikaCal.

[Deleted]

Oh wait, I meant to say, do my actions reek of chainsaw defense? That was the entire point of my post but I was distracted.

[Fort Colorcastle]

Yes. Defending TWD by attacking pikacal. I mean, you did manage to prove pretty much that he's scum. But ehhh
Also it's not OGMUS because I accused you of being scumteam long before you accused me of chainsaw defending lol.

But yeah, for real should I be looking for a ninja Citrus?

[Deleted]

Go for ninjas if you're telling the truth. I doubt any watchers or trackers exist outside of TWD, though.
Actually, not ninjas, do Hookers/Mafia PLs. Hookers are more dangerous than a ninja because if one exists, TWD is useless outside of being a confirmed townie and mandatory doctor recipient. So do Hookers.

[TheWhoDoctor]

Mar 4, 2015 13:26:17 GMT Citrus Freak said:

TWD, I think you know who to go on tonight. Alright?

Actually not really. I was thinking Fort but that's a smidge too obvious, I'll play around with it.