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Post by Spieky on Feb 16, 2015 22:47:32 GMT
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Post by rssp1 on Feb 16, 2015 22:51:48 GMT
Lynch Pikacal
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Post by Rabac on Feb 16, 2015 23:25:50 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2015 0:05:16 GMT
rssp1 is scummy for RLing imo.
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Post by micc on Feb 17, 2015 0:12:25 GMT
rssp, why are you on pikacal? Zsnaq would be so much better.
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Post by rssp1 on Feb 17, 2015 1:36:27 GMT
Explain why I have to follow what everyone else is doing.
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Post by micc on Feb 17, 2015 2:17:02 GMT
I have a scum read on Znaquasa and I'd like to see him wagoned.
You placed what appears to be a random vote on Pikacal. I'd like you to either: a. Make your vote useful by helping me wagon Znaq or b. Explain why your vote on Pikacal is not random (and thus useful).
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Post by Rabac on Feb 17, 2015 2:23:12 GMT
Quick Question. Who knows how many Villies are there?
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Post by Spieky on Feb 17, 2015 2:23:37 GMT
mob boss does
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Post by micc on Feb 17, 2015 2:38:24 GMT
Quick Question. Who knows how many Villies are there? i really don't think now is the time for this.
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Post by rssp1 on Feb 17, 2015 3:09:30 GMT
Explain your scum read and how it is valid.
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Post by micc on Feb 17, 2015 3:52:02 GMT
Re: setup spec Should we attempt to label the characters? He thought that this might be a good idea, when in all reality its a terrible idea. That list contains real town characters and fake scum characters. It's impossible to speculate about the powers of the scumteam from that list. The only thing that could possibly be accomplished from character speculation at this point is outing the existence of town power roles. Thats a job for the scumteam to do at night, not for the town to do during the day.
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Post by VigilanteVigoroth on Feb 17, 2015 6:46:42 GMT
I hate day 1 in forum Mafia, its just loads of people rling and by brain can't make sense of it all
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Post by rssp1 on Feb 17, 2015 7:05:17 GMT
So essentially, we're lynching him because he had a bad idea? Explain how that makes him mafia/scummy.
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Post by Drookez on Feb 17, 2015 7:18:24 GMT
Lynch rssp1 for questioning too much on day 1
(yes, this is a random lynch and my reasoning isn't legit just too stir discussion) :3
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Post by rssp1 on Feb 17, 2015 7:35:51 GMT
zekoord pls
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2015 12:41:59 GMT
K guys I'm back :3 wut I miss?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2015 13:01:11 GMT
Quick Question. Who knows how many Villies are there? Why... Why would that matter... These are usually always Power Role Manias--Everyone is a power role of sorts. What use would knowing how many villies there are be to the town? Re: setup spec Should we attempt to label the characters? He thought that this might be a good idea, when in all reality its a terrible idea. That list contains real town characters and fake scum characters. It's impossible to speculate about the powers of the scumteam from that list. The only thing that could possibly be accomplished from character speculation at this point is outing the existence of town power roles. Thats a job for the scumteam to do at night, not for the town to do during the day. You know, micc, Rabac, if you guys were town, wouldn't you know that everybody's a power role from your own role? Or if you saw the other games here, you'd know that nobody is ever villager (except rssp1 is conceit free). And, look, mafia is a game about an informed minority versus an uninformed majority. If we take away some of that information advantage, then the mafia is helpless as town steamrolls over them. That's not to say I support everyone character claiming; while it would identify some potential scum from double claims, some would actually choose the right one of theirs, and the majority of town can be figured out by flavoring. That gives the mafia even more of an information advantage. Still, we should all personally try to speculate as much as possible, and when the time comes, everyone share their opinion. My question is, why are you guys so wrapped up about power roles, when everyone is one, and why wouldn't you encourage town to flavor-scum-hunt personally? UL Znaquasa
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Post by pikacal on Feb 17, 2015 17:06:34 GMT
Explain your scum read and how it is valid. Explain why anyone would have a strong enough scumread day 1, more so on the first day of this day.
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Post by Rabac on Feb 17, 2015 18:43:57 GMT
Quick Question. Who knows how many Villies are there? i really don't think now is the time for this. I can confirm who is villy by doing this
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Post by Rabac on Feb 17, 2015 18:58:49 GMT
Quick Question. Who knows how many Villies are there? Why... Why would that matter... These are usually always Power Role Manias--Everyone is a power role of sorts. What use would knowing how many villies there are be to the town? He thought that this might be a good idea, when in all reality its a terrible idea. That list contains real town characters and fake scum characters. It's impossible to speculate about the powers of the scumteam from that list. The only thing that could possibly be accomplished from character speculation at this point is outing the existence of town power roles. Thats a job for the scumteam to do at night, not for the town to do during the day. You know, micc, Rabac, if you guys were town, wouldn't you know that everybody's a power role from your own role? Or if you saw the other games here, you'd know that nobody is ever villager (except rssp1 is conceit free). And, look, mafia is a game about an informed minority versus an uninformed majority. If we take away some of that information advantage, then the mafia is helpless as town steamrolls over them. That's not to say I support everyone character claiming; while it would identify some potential scum from double claims, some would actually choose the right one of theirs, and the majority of town can be figured out by flavoring. That gives the mafia even more of an information advantage. Still, we should all personally try to speculate as much as possible, and when the time comes, everyone share their opinion. My question is, why are you guys so wrapped up about power roles, when everyone is one, and why wouldn't you encourage town to flavor-scum-hunt personally? UL ZnaquasaAlso, just because the other games here never have villager doesnt mean that this game wont have villagers. Mob Boss could have purposely thrown in villagers for that reason. To throw EVERYONE off. I am claiming vanillager, so I know that there are X number of villagers here, so I'm actually trying to confirm the other villies. Like that we have a better idea of town to maf ratio. Since I figure that the other villies got very similar pms to whatI got and the PM I received from Mob Boss gave me information on the # of villies there are, I assume that the other villies got this same information. Now if you are Vanillager, or would like to claim it, claim your role and state the total # of villies there are, including yourself. I am aware that the mafia might try to claim villager too. But I will try to weed out the scum from the villies.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2015 19:42:46 GMT
No! Stop! If the vanillagers claim vanillager, then you inevitably get A) all the town PRs confirmed to mafia, B) all vanillagers confirmed to mafia. Town still has to weed out who's mafia from each group--but if what you are suggesting happens, the mafia get another huge information advantage! Say there are eight vanillager claims and five non-vanillagers. Well, then the mafia know who their members are--they'll just kill all of the people in the PR group not of the mafia. My word, that's a terrible idea. Lynch rabac, legit lynch this time
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2015 19:54:09 GMT
Re: setup spec Should we attempt to label the characters? Haha. No Unvote: ODM Vote: znaquasaOkay, so you RLed ODM before this... this game needs less character speculation and more votes on Znaquasa. rssp, why are you on pikacal? Zsnaq would be so much better. Why are you tunneling on znaquasa so hard? I have a scum read on Znaquasa and I'd like to see him wagoned. You placed what appears to be a random vote on Pikacal. I'd like you to either: a. Make your vote useful by helping me wagon Znaq or b. Explain why your vote on Pikacal is not random (and thus useful). You did a RL yourself on ODM... We all do RLs. And he said one thing you found bad, that's not enough for a valid scumread. That's not scumhunting, that's tunneling. Explain your scum read and how it is valid. Re: setup spec Should we attempt to label the characters? He thought that this might be a good idea, when in all reality its a terrible idea. That list contains real town characters and fake scum characters. It's impossible to speculate about the powers of the scumteam from that list. The only thing that could possibly be accomplished from character speculation at this point is outing the existence of town power roles. Thats a job for the scumteam to do at night, not for the town to do during the day. My word, what is with that quote... "Thats a job for the scumteam to do at night"? What the heck? This is even worse than znaq asking for character claims, imo... Just read that quote over and over and let it sink in.
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Post by micc on Feb 17, 2015 21:13:32 GMT
So essentially, we're lynching him because he had a bad idea? Explain how that makes him mafia/scummy. He wants info about town power roles in the game thread. The scum want that information public so they can make a more informed nightkill choice. He literally wants the town to help scum be able to choose the best nightkill. Its probably because he's scum. Its impossible to flavor scum hunt in this game. There are FAKE character names on that list for the scum. And unless Mob Boss completely derped the setup they know which ones are theirs. I can confirm who is villy by doing this And the reason you want to confirm players as villies is what exactly? Is it so that the scumteam has a list of players that they know don't have power roles? Because that doesn't make any sense to me. How about instead the villy claims when they are about to get lynched? You can do what ever it is you do that confirms them as villy then. After that we can analyze the wagon and figure out where the scum are. You know like actual scumhunting? /me flips to page 4 ...And you blew it Citrus Freak, lay off him. He's town. He screwed up, but he's town. Responding to that other post in a sec.
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Post by micc on Feb 17, 2015 21:23:23 GMT
Haha. No Unvote: ODM Vote: znaquasa1. Okay, so you RLed ODM before this... this game needs less character speculation and more votes on Znaquasa. rssp, why are you on pikacal? Zsnaq would be so much better. 2. Why are you tunneling on znaquasa so hard? I have a scum read on Znaquasa and I'd like to see him wagoned. You placed what appears to be a random vote on Pikacal. I'd like you to either: a. Make your vote useful by helping me wagon Znaq or b. Explain why your vote on Pikacal is not random (and thus useful). 3. You did a RL yourself on ODM... We all do RLs. And he said one thing you found bad, that's not enough for a valid scumread. That's not scumhunting, that's tunneling. Explain your scum read and how it is valid. He thought that this might be a good idea, when in all reality its a terrible idea. That list contains real town characters and fake scum characters. It's impossible to speculate about the powers of the scumteam from that list. The only thing that could possibly be accomplished from character speculation at this point is outing the existence of town power roles. Thats a job for the scumteam to do at night, not for the town to do during the day. 4. My word, what is with that quote... "Thats a job for the scumteam to do at night"? What the heck? This is even worse than znaq asking for character claims, imo... Just read that quote over and over and let it sink in. 1. Yeah, I did. Is there a problem with that? If not, can I ask why you are bringing it up? 2. Because I am scumreading him. I would like to see how he reacts to being wagoned in order to further evaluate my scumread. 3. Its a stronger reason to scum read someone than anything else Ive seen in this thread so far...so I can't see why you have a problem with me pushing it. Unless you don't think that is a good reason to scumread Znaq, in which case you should explain those feelings please. 4. Its the scum's job to find the power roles and kill them. Thats what they are supposed to do. Am I wrong? I don't see how there is anything terrible about me making that statement.
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