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Post by Fenrir on Jul 25, 2017 13:32:10 GMT
I need to check what the votes are currently, but there's at least one vote on Zest and to me this looks like a pretty blatant attempt to form a counterwagon. |
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Post by Bomb Moss on Jul 25, 2017 14:01:51 GMT
2 was mainly in response to the dude you quoted, I say it looks horrible but outright calling it a scumread would rate stronger on my list imo.
I do think this iisue is significant, but they can have a chance to stop. I believe in second chances.
Time and Date? Location? Weapons allowed y/n?
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Post by clc ironic on Jul 25, 2017 14:36:07 GMT
Hi clone. Did you copy what I said? :^) Jk though I'll respond to you...well it mainly has to do with the fact that I really don't think RADicate would be smart enough to be THAT hasty as scum; seems like he would lie low or something else, though again, it's a pretty small townlean. So I think we hypo unless theres someone guilty, in which case it would be 2-2 which is fairly feasible. The more deadly killer would be Lyncher who says someone guilty d2, and because Cop is scared for their life, the Lyncher wins. Though since Cop gets Mafia/Not Mafia, cop shouldn't be scared for their life... And of course I just looked at your last section in which actually makes me want Cop to claim right now...I would like thoughts/discussion on this (because lyncher claims cop d2, somehow cop died n1, YAY). Pls :I I don't think hastiness would be a smart move to make (given the attention it draws to oneself) and the smarter move for scum may in fact be to lie low, especially when they'd blend in among the lurkers. I can see scum doing either; the problem I have with Rad's vote is that they seem to have taken what is imo a fairly minor point and turned it into a reason for a lynch by itself (which reminds me of general PS Lyncher behavior). Cop claiming right now's an option (and up to them ultimately), but I'm still wary of the unpredictability of the werewolves-will they kill the "clear", deciding they can win the game without them? If we lynch both werewolves early on, what happens when our Cop gets nightkilled? That said, it does remove cc shenanigans later on. I disagree with the RAD thing...seems like he was just joking. He took a fairly minor point I didn't even realize from a joke RVS lynch, and pushed it to another joke RVS lynch (at least, I think it was RVS based off the fact he got off and went to xnad). Early lyncher on HAWKIE? That would be practically suicide lol. And to the second point, if the werewolves kill the Cop clear, then it would be a huge disadvantage to them (without Cop, they can't get "freebies" where Cop gets guilty and town immediately turboes them, and therefore would raise the chances of them dying/mafia winning). Sure, it is unpredictable, and that's a flaw with breaking every OS, but your right that it does remove chances Cop dies n1 and we still think Cop is there because it revealed as "Town/Neither". Still want discussion on this though, but valid points from Fenrir. Ok, I'm god lazy so I'm not gonna double/triple/quad post and just say my thoughts in one post. So you may have noticed how I skipped Fenrir's first post, and that's because I noticed a holy spam of Animallover's filler. Now I was somewhat hesitant to lynch Animal at first when reading through, but now I think I'll take my 6/11 chances and pray to God that Animal isn't a lyncher target (eek). His filler is honestly annoying... and yeah that's my only reason for him. Annoying. Well isn't this sad, we have to take care of a troll first, which is extremely bad for town since if he flips town, Lyncher has a 1/5 chance of winning (randomized between the 5 vts  ), but more importantly, we get practically no information since this wagon on him is just about filler and scum can easily say "well hes fillering so hes scum" and get away with it. Now then I realized queen erotica (champ?) says "Well, I'm in no position to say this myself since I have been heavily inactive (and kinda surprised that I didn't get lynched for that, nor did anyone push me for being inactive), but I kinda agree this but also fear the fact that Ani can flip out to be cop, so personally I ain't lynching Ani :I"...so Fenrir practically covered the points already but I'll just repeat them: >points out they were heavily inactive >points out they should have been pushed for that >thinking Animal is Cop >Not lynching him because of that; Oh and also, there is literally aton more content to comment on aside from Animal... xnad's response to the whole hawkie wagon hypocrisy issue is pretty good, and xnad can settle on my neutral list for now. Though the RAD wagon thing is sorta getting out of shape, needing some answers from RAD asap tbh. Finally Toni comes in and says "But I am not liking how he is playing altogether," LIKE DUDE (restraining to use bold here) THATS PRETTY OBVIOUS HERE...seems like another "IM HERE" post, toni is now a slight scumlean. And yeah my head hurts now so I'll end it there, more comments in a later post. |
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Post by clc ironic on Jul 25, 2017 14:55:54 GMT
k so new meta time not gonna use quotes at all because they make the post look imbalanced in proportion "Animal could be town pulling a 'too scummy to be scum' shit. Or could be scum pulling a 'too scummy to be scum' shit. If you're Town, I suggest you stop since it really doesn't help " "Except town has literally no reason to do this." Good response :^) "Why are there so many things I don't like this game? Joining the list is Champ (this is Champ, right?) acknowledging he's inactive commenting on how nobody pushed him for it, and then giving a pretty bad reason to not lynch Ani even though the Ani wagon is effectively a pressure wagon and nobody was expecting him to join it. I also don't like how it's the only thing in the game he apparently has a comment on, and just gives us an "ask me anything" as opposed to trying to fix his inactivity. " Read my other post "Eh, Rad has some pressure on him imo. I also feel like saying something looks horrible implies a scumread on some level-can others verify if it's just me or if it's a shared sentiment? " Iirc his pressure was Hawkie, Hawkie, and only Hawkie (unless im blind)...sooo Hawkie I guess is that good at pressuring (true fact shh). And yes if something looks horrible (horrible is pretty strong word), then whoever is doing it you must have feelings for (aka scumread). But he did say it didn't imply a strong scumread, not that it didn't imply a scumread. "I need to check what the votes are currently, but there's at least one vote on Zest and to me this looks like a pretty blatant attempt to form a counterwagon. " There's I think 2 is on Zest (Hawkie / Animal). Counterwagon? idk. Seems like Animal isn't trying and gives two shits about this game -_- I don't neccessarily sr hawkie though, but I guess you do so this could make somewhat sense...by the way pretty sure 3 on Animal (me/fenrir/someone else) 1 on odm (wake up) and like 1 on xnad (rad) I'm pretty sure. No where near hammer though as animal is at l-4 so MORE DISCUSSION IS WARRANTED talking to you afkers (odm) and one line posters (toni/bored) please and ty |
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Post by clc ironic on Jul 25, 2017 14:56:49 GMT
What the fuck happened to my end quotes btw EEK
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Post by Champ1604 on Jul 25, 2017 16:08:42 GMT
Ehh, I'm done. When you give your reads in your post after you have been inactive: POOUUUUNDD THE ALAAAAAAARM!!!!! SCUM HAS BEEN SIGHTEDon a more serious note I don't like the tone of this post. The reads on people are all 1 liners and more commentary on what they've done so far rather than actual analysis. It feels more like a "forced" post from a non-town aligned player trying to feign that they're making an effort to read the other players in the game rather than a townie who feels he's at the point in his analysis of the game that he should post a reads list. He lynches AnimalLover77 and echoes reasoning that's already been given(by me and other people) and basically says "play better" rather than exploring AnimalLover77 as scum? There are 0 scumreads in this post and after 7 pages with so many scum in this game ANY town-aligned player would at least have ONE person they think could flip red. Tldr this is a scum slot Unvote Radicate vote ZestOfLife When you don't give your reads: Well, I'm in no position to say this myself since I have been heavily inactive (and kinda surprised that I didn't get lynched for that, nor did anyone push me for being inactive), but I kinda agree this but also fear the fact that Ani can flip out to be cop, so personally I ain't lynching Ani :I If anyone wants anything out of me, tag me and ask me, that way would mean an assured reply  Why are there so many things I don't like this game? Joining the list is Champ (this is Champ, right?) acknowledging he's inactive commenting on how nobody pushed him for it, and then giving a pretty bad reason to not lynch Ani even though the Ani wagon is effectively a pressure wagon and nobody was expecting him to join it. I also don't like how it's the only thing in the game he apparently has a comment on, and just gives us an "ask me anything" as opposed to trying to fix his inactivity. Also, I shouldn't be player-meta'ing but why do you always have an issue when someone states a possibility and clarifies it on their own, and it's chill when you do that yourself? Like, you must be a player who has a limited view on the possibilities fine, but I'm a player who looks upon all the possibilities. And the way you frame it as to even though " Ani wagon is effectively a pressure wagon", it really seems a bad way to advertise your reason for the lynch. And when was the last time you actually provided a reason for stating someone's reason as 'bad'? Now now, my plan to type next was 'I really hate how Fenrir plays like this and I honestly SR them for this, like the only thing they have is activity and just lynching a player who's awfully playing bad', but then I know Fenrir will post something like 'I don't like how Champ is buddying Ani', and if I don't say that, then Fenrir would post something like 'You state someone bad but don't SR them'. |
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Post by ZestOfLife on Jul 25, 2017 16:56:29 GMT
So far these are my reads (sorry for being inactive) Fenrir - Has contributed to town and has given reads. ironic (lmao Bill Cosby) - Posts so far is about game mechanics. Xnad - Has posted a bit but whatever is posted makes sense/helps town. Animal - Is just running around and saying "don't lynch me!" It does ping me a bit. Is only filler. Hawkie - Mostly filler, some posts do focus on helping town. RADicate - Hasn't posted much but whatever he posted just was an indirect OMGUS. Well rest is just lurking or filler or haven't posted alot. These reads will improve once the game does progress. VOTE: AnimalSeriously you just need to stop posting "don't lynch me" post and start contributing. on a more serious note I don't like the tone of this post. The reads on people are all 1 liners and more commentary on what they've done so far rather than actual analysis. It feels more like a "forced" post from a non-town aligned player trying to feign that they're making an effort to read the other players in the game rather than a townie who feels he's at the point in his analysis of the game that he should post a reads list. He lynches AnimalLover77 and echoes reasoning that's already been given(by me and other people) and basically says "play better" rather than exploring AnimalLover77 as scum? There are 0 scumreads in this post and after 7 pages with so many scum in this game ANY town-aligned player would at least have ONE person they think could flip red. Tldr this is a scum slot Unvote Radicate vote ZestOfLifeA) I do SR Animal for the reasons stated (its pretty obvious even if I havent written "I SR Animal"). B) So apparently giving my summary of reads after 7 pages is "forced scum who is forced to post". C) So I cannot SR a player/apply pressure at all just because someone already stated the same reads? D) What do you mean by "explore Animal as scum"? Do I indepth read him? Wait no all his posts are just "Don't lynch me". |
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Post by RADicate on Jul 25, 2017 17:35:09 GMT
I promised these posts last night and i was going to, but if im being honest im feeling super lazy regarding this game, aka i dont wanna be active, not really sure why i dont feel like playing though ~_~. I'll try to pick it up. Continuing on: OK to answer everyone who is concerned, (i didnt feel the need to state this tbh since i thought it was obvious from the GLARINGLY bad reason i lynched hawkie) i did it for rvs, and i would hardly call two lynches a "BW". And to fen's question why lynch someone different during RVS stage: putting someone at two lynches puts a little bit more pressure on them than i wouldve had on you by just sitting on your vote and was more likely to give me a telling reaction at that point. Furthermore regarding that, people flip around votes during RVS almost EVERY. SINGLE. GAME.
TL;DR it was an RVS with a a bit of a fabricated reason i used to apply pressure to hawkie.
As to why i sat on it the lynch for so long, its actually a really shitty reason but its the truth, as i previously stated "actively lurking", keeping up with the game but i really didnt feel like posts anything. Take of that what you will but its how it is.
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Post by RADicate on Jul 25, 2017 17:37:04 GMT
btw host VC and updated DL whenever you can, thanks vigvig bb
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Post by RADicate on Jul 25, 2017 18:25:05 GMT
My opinion on the whole HYPO debate: Tbh Softing inspects throughout the dayt>HYPO>Claim With 3 mafia running about and generally people saying inno inspects during their hypo, it could be very easy depending on the hypo results for mafia to narrow down who the real cop is. Im against the cop claiming as, if we do get rid of the WWs at any point then the cop is RIP. Imo its much safer for the cop to just throw down softs as his inspects come out, and claim if he is ever going to get lynched. Or feels the need to. (Not doing everyone tbh) My thoughts: Ani: Animal's day begining "dont lynch me" thing felt more to me like a joke comment (call it player meta but you'll be hard pressed to find a single game ani does screw around at least a bit), rather than an actual comment about asking not to be lynched (during RVS or otherwise). Outside of that nothing ani has done really bothered me so idk about this slot tbh. I cant read ani as they playing now. I would like a few reads from them For now: NULL Fenrir: I know this doesnt make fenrir town in and of itself, but he kinda stepped as one of the leaders of town (activity is nice!), but more importantly he has given multiple different posts that put forth active gamesolving and posts that i feel come from a town POV. (can grab quotes upon request) Strong Townlean. Answering CLC: As for the rvs/pressure lynch on hawkie if im being honest, he gave me almost the exact reaction i expected (him brushing it aside: "I forgot actually. Honey if u wanna pursue a trash read on me with reasoning that made me laugh be my guest, i'm disappointed in u thought u were better than this  ") So to CLC's point that i gave no output on the hawkie thing, he didnt give me a townie or a scummy reaction, just kind of a null one. If i posted everyone i didnt have a strong Im fine with settling on the ZoL mainly for the one-liners and forced readlist that SNAKEMASTER69 has pointed out (your welcome for the alt btw bb, too bad i cant get my alt D:) XNAD: So it doesnt look bad on original analysis and you change you opinion on it out of nowhere just because Im the one recieving pressure?_? ... hmmm... Unlynch and Lynch XnadSticking on this for now, i read through and have more to say about what's happened thus far but im feeling pretty lazy right now, so i'll be back later tonight. 1. Yes, it didnt look bad on my original analysis but rereading made me come to that conclusion. 2. You're not under pressure, everyone right now is firing at Zest and you are in a pretty safe spot given how you could either push the No lynch through or the Zest shit through. 3. I said it looks horrible, it doesn't imply a strong scumread. As of then, I still feel No Lynch would be the better option, hence me not voting you. 4. You said "just because", feels more from a discredit than an actual attack on me, which pings me. 5. You yourself are only responding to posts regarding them. Your promise of coming back later targets those votes of mine rather than whatever else is in this thread. What about rereading made you come to that conclusion: WHY does it look bad outside of that being the general consensus. You wanna talk about discredit/brushing aside people... Eh I might not be under as much pressure as zest is but i would argue its there, you completely discounting the pressure on me for the sake of a defense is badly. If something looks horrible shouldnt that ELICIT a scumread, and stating you would lynch me if you didnt support a NL means you DO SR ME. So this whole third post isnt even a defense. Basically you are saying: just because something is bad doesnt mean i SR you for it, but i do SR you for it. : See #1 if you wanna look for discredits. #5 Can you reword this one for me? Legit not understanding the point you are trying to get across in this one. Unless that #5 is like a godly point that could only come from a town pov, XNAD>ZoL |
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Post by Umbrella on Jul 25, 2017 18:46:58 GMT
I think fenrir started pushing on me for a BS reason and zol just jumped on. The reason I've kept acting like I have is because I'm lowkey triggered I was SR for one line of RVS which makes no since to me. I feel like fenrir is scum over zol when I think it over.
Unlynch ZOL Lynch Fenrir
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Post by Fenrir on Jul 25, 2017 19:13:13 GMT
Ehh, I'm done. When you give your reads in your post after you have been inactive: POOUUUUNDD THE ALAAAAAAARM!!!!! SCUM HAS BEEN SIGHTEDon a more serious note I don't like the tone of this post. The reads on people are all 1 liners and more commentary on what they've done so far rather than actual analysis. It feels more like a "forced" post from a non-town aligned player trying to feign that they're making an effort to read the other players in the game rather than a townie who feels he's at the point in his analysis of the game that he should post a reads list. He lynches AnimalLover77 and echoes reasoning that's already been given(by me and other people) and basically says "play better" rather than exploring AnimalLover77 as scum? There are 0 scumreads in this post and after 7 pages with so many scum in this game ANY town-aligned player would at least have ONE person they think could flip red. Tldr this is a scum slot Unvote Radicate vote ZestOfLife When you don't give your reads: Why are there so many things I don't like this game? Joining the list is Champ (this is Champ, right?) acknowledging he's inactive commenting on how nobody pushed him for it, and then giving a pretty bad reason to not lynch Ani even though the Ani wagon is effectively a pressure wagon and nobody was expecting him to join it. I also don't like how it's the only thing in the game he apparently has a comment on, and just gives us an "ask me anything" as opposed to trying to fix his inactivity.
Also, I shouldn't be player-meta'ing No, you really shouldn't. but why do you always have an issue when someone states a possibility and clarifies it on their own, and it's chill when you do that yourself? Give examples please because I don't know what you're referring to. Like, you must be a player who has a limited view on the possibilities fine, but I'm a player who looks upon all the possibilities. Again give examples, because so far the only "possibility" you've looked at is "what if Ani's cop" which can be applied to literally anyone. And the way you frame it as to even though " Ani wagon is effectively a pressure wagon", it really seems a bad way to advertise your reason for the lynch. Yes, because pressure wagons need to be advertised and I should be upset with anyone not on them. And when was the last time you actually provided a reason for stating someone's reason as 'bad'? I'm pretty sure I can look through here and Classic 11 and find a few. Now now, my plan to type next was 'I really hate how Fenrir plays like this and I honestly SR them for this, like the only thing they have is activity and just lynching a player who's awfully playing bad', but then I know Fenrir will post something like 'I don't like how Champ is buddying Ani', and if I don't say that, then Fenrir would post something like 'You state someone bad but don't SR them'. If you're going to scumread me for something, do it and quit hedging, because that's scummier than either of the scenarios you hypothesize. Make up your mind-do you scumread me or not? By the way, I already don't like the connection you have to Ani, I don't see what's wrong with pressuring someone who's playing poorly, and I'm semi-surprised that my activity is the only thing you comment on in your "read" as opposed to any of the content. Activity is clearly not the only thing I have currently, unless you're proposing that my posts so far have been 100% filler (like Ani's).Plenty I want to respond to, but I don't know how long I can be on and wanted to start with this. Responses are in bold. |
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Post by Fenrir on Jul 25, 2017 19:18:44 GMT
2 was mainly in response to the dude you quoted, I say it looks horrible but outright calling it a scumread would rate stronger on my list imo. Ah, thank you for clarifying.I do think this iisue is significant, but they can have a chance to stop. I believe in second chances. As do I, but I believe in this in the sense it's scummy behavior Ani can redeem himself fromTime and Date? Location? Weapons allowed y/n? No items 1v1 Final Destination, right here, right now. |
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Post by VigilanteVigoroth on Jul 25, 2017 19:27:44 GMT
Votecount day 1
Animallover77 (3)- clc ironic ZestOfLife Fenrir Fenrir (1)- Umbrella ODM (1)- Bomb Moss Kind Kangaroo Killer/Zestoflife (1)- Hawkie Uberdogedriver/XnadrojX (1) RADicate Snakemaster69/Hawkie (0)No Lynch (0)Daddy Cosby/Ironicninja (0)Bored6886 (0)Shanice the unicorn/Tonithesadthing (0)Chatterseel (0)Queen Erotica/Champ1604 (0)The Great Gatsby/RADicate (0)Not Voting- incognito BoredGames Crespo @chatterseel Champ1604 Deadline is in 23 hours and 34 minutes at 8PM BST on the 26th of July If the deadline was now, Animallover77 would be lynched
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Post by Fenrir on Jul 25, 2017 19:30:01 GMT
Pls :I I don't think hastiness would be a smart move to make (given the attention it draws to oneself) and the smarter move for scum may in fact be to lie low, especially when they'd blend in among the lurkers. I can see scum doing either; the problem I have with Rad's vote is that they seem to have taken what is imo a fairly minor point and turned it into a reason for a lynch by itself (which reminds me of general PS Lyncher behavior). Cop claiming right now's an option (and up to them ultimately), but I'm still wary of the unpredictability of the werewolves-will they kill the "clear", deciding they can win the game without them? If we lynch both werewolves early on, what happens when our Cop gets nightkilled? That said, it does remove cc shenanigans later on. I disagree with the RAD thing...seems like he was just joking. He took a fairly minor point I didn't even realize from a joke RVS lynch, and pushed it to another joke RVS lynch (at least, I think it was RVS based off the fact he got off and went to xnad). Still would appreciate Rad's own comments on this, as if it was RVS it opens of the question on why he felt the need to shift from one wagon to another in RVS. Early lyncher on HAWKIE? That would be practically suicide lol. RIP the RNG, if Hawkie's VT there's a chance of it. And to the second point, if the werewolves kill the Cop clear, then it would be a huge disadvantage to them (without Cop, they can't get "freebies" where Cop gets guilty and town immediately turboes them, and therefore would raise the chances of them dying/mafia winning). Sure, it is unpredictable, and that's a flaw with breaking every OS, but your right that it does remove chances Cop dies n1 and we still think Cop is there because it revealed as "Town/Neither". Still want discussion on this though, but valid points from Fenrir. Basically, I feel like there are too many variables that can cause the cop to die early on or make it so that by the time we find all 3 mafia the werewolves have become more of a problem. But as I said, I'm also open to the thoughts of others.
Ok, I'm god lazy so I'm not gonna double/triple/quad post and just say my thoughts in one post. So you may have noticed how I skipped Fenrir's first post, and that's because I noticed a holy spam of Animallover's filler. Now I was somewhat hesitant to lynch Animal at first when reading through, but now I think I'll take my 6/11 chances and pray to God that Animal isn't a lyncher target (eek). Another reason why Ani, if he is VT, needs to stop. If he's Cop that doesn't exempt him from having to be helpful, if he's scum he can continue this for all I care. His filler is honestly annoying... and yeah that's my only reason for him. Annoying. Well isn't this sad, we have to take care of a troll first, which is extremely bad for town since if he flips town, Lyncher has a 1/5 chance of winning (randomized between the 5 vts ), but more importantly, we get practically no information since this wagon on him is just about filler and scum can easily say "well hes fillering so hes scum" and get away with it. I think at this point we get a good deal of info regarding Ani's flip about Hawkie, Champ, myself, and possibly ZoL.Now then I realized queen erotica (champ?) says "Well, I'm in no position to say this myself since I have been heavily inactive (and kinda surprised that I didn't get lynched for that, nor did anyone push me for being inactive), but I kinda agree this but also fear the fact that Ani can flip out to be cop, so personally I ain't lynching Ani :I"...so Fenrir practically covered the points already ( Huehuehue) but I'll just repeat them: >points out they were heavily inactive >points out they should have been pushed for that >thinking Animal is Cop >Not lynching him because of that; Oh and also, there is literally aton more content to comment on aside from Animal... xnad's response to the whole hawkie wagon hypocrisy issue is pretty good, and xnad can settle on my neutral list for now. Though the RAD wagon thing is sorta getting out of shape, needing some answers from RAD asap tbh. There's a Rad wagon...?Finally Toni comes in and says "But I am not liking how he is playing altogether," LIKE DUDE (restraining to use bold here feel free) THATS PRETTY OBVIOUS HERE...seems like another "IM HERE" post, toni is now a slight scumlean. And yeah my head hurts now so I'll end it there, more comments in a later post. |
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Post by Fenrir on Jul 25, 2017 19:34:33 GMT
k so new meta Lynch Anita B. time not gonna use quotes at all because they make the post look imbalanced in proportion "Animal could be town pulling a 'too scummy to be scum' shit. Or could be scum pulling a 'too scummy to be scum' shit. If you're Town, I suggest you stop since it really doesn't help " "Except town has literally no reason to do this." Good response :^) "Why are there so many things I don't like this game? Joining the list is Champ (this is Champ, right?) acknowledging he's inactive commenting on how nobody pushed him for it, and then giving a pretty bad reason to not lynch Ani even though the Ani wagon is effectively a pressure wagon and nobody was expecting him to join it. I also don't like how it's the only thing in the game he apparently has a comment on, and just gives us an "ask me anything" as opposed to trying to fix his inactivity. " Read my other post "Eh, Rad has some pressure on him imo. I also feel like saying something looks horrible implies a scumread on some level-can others verify if it's just me or if it's a shared sentiment? " Iirc his pressure was Hawkie, Hawkie, and only Hawkie (unless im blind)...sooo Hawkie I guess is that good at pressuring (true fact shh). And yes if something looks horrible (horrible is pretty strong word), then whoever is doing it you must have feelings for (aka scumread). But he did say it didn't imply a strong scumread, not that it didn't imply a scumread. Mentioned my understanding of this w/ Xnad; Rad may not have any votes on him but with how much discussion has been about him so far he should feel pressured to at least indicate he's here."I need to check what the votes are currently, but there's at least one vote on Zest and to me this looks like a pretty blatant attempt to form a counterwagon. " There's I think 2 is on Zest (Hawkie / Animal). Counterwagon? idk. It's a counter to a wagon that currently has 3 votes; so in comparison it makes a shift off Ani much easier. Seems like Animal isn't trying and gives two shits about this game -_- Then he should sub out. I don't neccessarily sr hawkie though, but I guess you do so this could make somewhat sense... Atm my scumread on Hawkie isn't as strong as most of the others I've mentioned. I'd describe as "neutral, weak scum lean." by the way pretty sure 3 on Animal (me/fenrir/someone else) 1 on odm (wake up) and like 1 on xnad (rad) I'm pretty sure. No where near hammer though as animal is at l-4 I think this is decided by plurality but yes so MORE DISCUSSION IS WARRANTED talking to you afkers (odm) and one line posters (toni/bored) please and ty HI THIS IS FENRIR'S BOLD SECONDING CLC'S BOLD, SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK! |
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Post by Fenrir on Jul 25, 2017 19:36:41 GMT
Battery is running low. I will add at the moment that I am responding in chronological order save Champ's post and am just now seeing Rad's comment that his Hawkiee vote was RVS, and that I intend to comment on it.
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Post by Fenrir on Jul 25, 2017 19:51:49 GMT
I promised these posts last night and i was going to, but if im being honest im feeling super lazy regarding this game, aka i dont wanna be active, not really sure why i dont feel like playing though ~_~. I'll try to pick it up. Continuing on: OK to answer everyone who is concerned, (i didnt feel the need to state this tbh since i thought it was obvious from the GLARINGLY bad reason i lynched hawkie) i did it for rvs, and i would hardly call two lynches a "BW". And to fen's question why lynch someone different during RVS stage: putting someone at two lynches puts a little bit more pressure on them than i wouldve had on you by just sitting on your vote and was more likely to give me a telling reaction at that point. Furthermore regarding that, people flip around votes during RVS almost EVERY. SINGLE. GAME. I disagree with the last sentence (if they do they really shouldn't, there's no point >.>) but thank you for coming back to explain. Although weren't you already on someone with two votes (I think it was me)?TL;DR it was an RVS with a a bit of a fabricated reason i used to apply pressure to hawkie. As to why i sat on it the lynch for so long, its actually a really shitty reason but its the truth, as i previously stated "actively lurking", keeping up with the game but i really didnt feel like posts anything. Take of that what you will but its how it is. Lurking is bad. Don't lurk imo. What are your thoughts on some of the current goings-on such as Ani/Champ/cop claiming/hypo? |
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Post by Fenrir on Jul 25, 2017 20:06:18 GMT
My opinion on the whole HYPO debate Um...ignore the question I asked you regarding that I guess.: Tbh Softing inspects throughout the dayt>HYPO>Claim With 3 mafia running about and generally people saying inno inspects during their hypo, it could be very easy depending on the hypo results for mafia to narrow down who the real cop is. Im against the cop claiming as, if we do get rid of the WWs at any point then the cop is RIP. Imo its much safer for the cop to just throw down softs as his inspects come out, and claim if he is ever going to get lynched. Or feels the need to. (Not doing everyone tbh) My thoughts: Ani: Animal's day begining "dont lynch me" thing felt more to me like a joke comment (call it player meta but you'll be hard pressed to find a single game ani does screw around at least a bit), rather than an actual comment about asking not to be lynched (during RVS or otherwise). Outside of that nothing ani has done really bothered me so idk about this slot tbh. I cant read ani as they playing now. I would like a few reads from them For now: NULL The problem I have with Ani is that until this page all they've been doing is spamming "Don't lynch me" and I have comments for their post this page as well.Fenrir: I know this doesnt make fenrir town in and of itself, but he kinda stepped as one of the leaders of town (activity is nice!), but more importantly he has given multiple different posts that put forth active gamesolving and posts that i feel come from a town POV. (can grab quotes upon request) Strong Townlean. Tbh I (apparently) have a compulsive tendency to townlead without realizing it so rip me.Answering CLC: As for the rvs/pressure lynch on hawkie if im being honest, he gave me almost the exact reaction i expected (him brushing it aside: "I forgot actually. Honey if u wanna pursue a trash read on me with reasoning that made me laugh be my guest, i'm disappointed in u thought u were better than this ") So to CLC's point that i gave no output on the hawkie thing, he didnt give me a townie or a scummy reaction, just kind of a null one. If i posted everyone i didnt have a strong Rip incomplete sentence; although I do think Hawkie later said something like, "Oh, that's Rad? Nice OMGUS" (paraphrased). I'd been hoping to see reaction from you re: this, but that's minor.Im fine with settling on the ZoL mainly for the one-liners and forced readlist that SNAKEMASTER69 has pointed out (your welcome for the alt btw bb, too bad i cant get my alt D:) XNAD: 1. Yes, it didnt look bad on my original analysis but rereading made me come to that conclusion. 2. You're not under pressure, everyone right now is firing at Zest and you are in a pretty safe spot given how you could either push the No lynch through or the Zest shit through. 3. I said it looks horrible, it doesn't imply a strong scumread. As of then, I still feel No Lynch would be the better option, hence me not voting you. 4. You said "just because", feels more from a discredit than an actual attack on me, which pings me. 5. You yourself are only responding to posts regarding them. Your promise of coming back later targets those votes of mine rather than whatever else is in this thread. What about rereading made you come to that conclusion: WHY does it look bad outside of that being the general consensus. You wanna talk about discredit/brushing aside people... Eh I might not be under as much pressure as zest is but i would argue its there, you completely discounting the pressure on me for the sake of a defense is badly. If something looks horrible shouldnt that ELICIT a scumread, and stating you would lynch me if you didnt support a NL means you DO SR ME. So this whole third post isnt even a defense. Basically you are saying: just because something is bad doesnt mean i SR you for it, but i do SR you for it. : This got discussed, the emphasis is meant to be on the word "strong" (AKA there is a scumread but it's a weaker one).See #1 if you wanna look for discredits. #5 Can you reword this one for me? Legit not understanding the point you are trying to get across in this one. Unless that #5 is like a godly point that could only come from a town pov, XNAD>ZoL |
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Post by Umbrella on Jul 25, 2017 21:22:45 GMT
Fenrir stop intimidating me with your wall posts
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Post by Umbrella on Jul 25, 2017 21:27:19 GMT
My opinion on the whole HYPO debate Um...ignore the question I asked you regarding that I guess.: Tbh Softing inspects throughout the dayt>HYPO>Claim With 3 mafia running about and generally people saying inno inspects during their hypo, it could be very easy depending on the hypo results for mafia to narrow down who the real cop is. Im against the cop claiming as, if we do get rid of the WWs at any point then the cop is RIP. Imo its much safer for the cop to just throw down softs as his inspects come out, and claim if he is ever going to get lynched. Or feels the need to. (Not doing everyone tbh) My thoughts: Ani: Animal's day begining "dont lynch me" thing felt more to me like a joke comment (call it player meta but you'll be hard pressed to find a single game ani does screw around at least a bit), rather than an actual comment about asking not to be lynched (during RVS or otherwise). Outside of that nothing ani has done really bothered me so idk about this slot tbh. I cant read ani as they playing now. I would like a few reads from them For now: NULL The problem I have with Ani is that until this page all they've been doing is spamming "Don't lynch me" and I have comments for their post this page as well.Fenrir: I know this doesnt make fenrir town in and of itself, but he kinda stepped as one of the leaders of town (activity is nice!), but more importantly he has given multiple different posts that put forth active gamesolving and posts that i feel come from a town POV. (can grab quotes upon request) Strong Townlean. Tbh I (apparently) have a compulsive tendency to townlead without realizing it so rip me.Answering CLC: As for the rvs/pressure lynch on hawkie if im being honest, he gave me almost the exact reaction i expected (him brushing it aside: "I forgot actually. Honey if u wanna pursue a trash read on me with reasoning that made me laugh be my guest, i'm disappointed in u thought u were better than this ") So to CLC's point that i gave no output on the hawkie thing, he didnt give me a townie or a scummy reaction, just kind of a null one. If i posted everyone i didnt have a strong Rip incomplete sentence; although I do think Hawkie later said something like, "Oh, that's Rad? Nice OMGUS" (paraphrased). I'd been hoping to see reaction from you re: this, but that's minor.Im fine with settling on the ZoL mainly for the one-liners and forced readlist that SNAKEMASTER69 has pointed out (your welcome for the alt btw bb, too bad i cant get my alt D:) XNAD: What about rereading made you come to that conclusion: WHY does it look bad outside of that being the general consensus. You wanna talk about discredit/brushing aside people... Eh I might not be under as much pressure as zest is but i would argue its there, you completely discounting the pressure on me for the sake of a defense is badly. If something looks horrible shouldnt that ELICIT a scumread, and stating you would lynch me if you didnt support a NL means you DO SR ME. So this whole third post isnt even a defense. Basically you are saying: just because something is bad doesnt mean i SR you for it, but i do SR you for it. : This got discussed, the emphasis is meant to be on the word "strong" (AKA there is a scumread but it's a weaker one).See #1 if you wanna look for discredits. #5 Can you reword this one for me? Legit not understanding the point you are trying to get across in this one. Unless that #5 is like a godly point that could only come from a town pov, XNAD>ZoL The first time I said don't lynch me was just me was just me messing around then when people started SRing me on it (for little to no reasons as I see it) I added a jokey comment supposed to be like "I said don't lynch me you failed gg" which was a complete joke comment but the 3rd one was me getting frankly annoyed at the fact that people were SRing me on this. |
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Post by clc ironic on Jul 25, 2017 22:02:47 GMT
I think fenrir started pushing on me for a BS reason and zol just jumped on. The reason I've kept acting like I have is because I'm lowkey triggered I was SR for one line of RVS which makes no since to me. I feel like fenrir is scum over zol when I think it over. Unlynch ZOL Lynch FenrirI understand I just skipped a ton of wall posts but mind we look at Animal here acting like Mirror fucking Serena (comments in bold): >FENRIR PUSHED YOU >zol jumped on >lowkey triggered >universally SRed >Fenrir is scum because of this >IT WAS RVSkLowkey I'm triggered if this is the best Animal can play...Fenrir just applyed pressure to a decent lynch (in you) and sure, zol put you at L-4 but I mean...yeah uh....................................................................................................................also have no clue why you unlynched AT ALL... if you think Fenrir is really scum convice me child ==============================NEW SECTION SORRY FOR THE INTERRUPTION ON THE BS============================== Oh and noticed theres a thread summary so hey I'm gonna use it: k Fenrir clearly has no life so he's either town or lyncher who wants to end the game quickly lmfao (or he has no fucking life) --- in fact I have enough of a life not to read all his wall posts going into every sentence (call me lazy) and just respond to the comments directed towards me for now (hey if someone say "oh look clc, a great point was made by fenrir in his wall posts (hopefully this never happens), I'll take a look). "xnad's response to the whole hawkie wagon hypocrisy issue is pretty good, and xnad can settle on my neutral list for now. Though the RAD wagon thing is sorta getting out of shape, needing some answers from RAD asap tbh. There's a Rad wagon...? " Nah I meant RAD bandwagoning my bad. Oh and look I didn't have to spend another 20 hours of my life cause that was it :^) more comments in another post since thread summary isnt actually that good and cant go back a page iirc |
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Post by clc ironic on Jul 25, 2017 22:04:10 GMT
The fuck happened with my === and I can't even edit it
Well have fun reading
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Post by Fenrir on Jul 25, 2017 22:04:11 GMT
I think fenrir started pushing on me for a BS reason and zol just jumped on. I don't see how pressuring someone to actually do something is a BS reason. The reason I've kept acting like I have is because I'm lowkey triggered I was SR for one line of RVS which makes no since to me. 1. You have more than 1 line of filler. 2. did it ever occur to you that continuing it might not entice people to get off you? I feel like fenrir is scum over zol when I think it over. 10/10 reasoning, I fall before-oh, wait.Unlynch ZOL Lynch FenrirForgot to respond to Ani's vote earlier, gg me. I see clc posting now w/ this quote and it may be the same thing, so RIP me if it is. |
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Post by clc ironic on Jul 25, 2017 22:04:44 GMT
heh your right I sniped your ass
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), but more importantly, we get practically no information since this wagon on him is just about filler and scum can easily say "well hes fillering so hes scum" and get away with it. 
Pikachu is my God.
") So to CLC's point that i gave no output on the hawkie thing, he didnt give me a townie or a scummy reaction, just kind of a null one. If i posted everyone i didnt have a strong 
