Too Much Scum- Town Win

[clc ironic]

Tbh I really don't want animal to be our lynch---mainly because this is exactly what happened when vigvig went trolling in another game I was playing, and what happened was we had no info because we were focused on some random ass guy where both scum just lied low...it is different because there is a Cop opposed to Semi-Nightless, but an Animal d1 lynch is an extremely easy lynch/push for scum which I'm disliking

Of course everyone else is FUCKING AFK and Animal trolling is literally stupid --- final decision: START FUCKING PLAYING OR IM LYNCHING YOU I DONT CARE

And to RAD, more reads would be appreicated, because iirc the only read you had was animal:null (no help at all) unless im blind (which i might be sorry)

More interesting news: ODM still hasnt posted, Hawkie is on PS but never comes on to talk

yeah the interesting news were more afkers wow so interesting
 

[RADicate]

Jul 25, 2017 22:13:39 GMT clc ironic said:

Tbh I really don't want animal to be our lynch---mainly because this is exactly what happened when vigvig went trolling in another game I was playing, and what happened was we had no info because we were focused on some random ass guy where both scum just lied low...it is different because there is a Cop opposed to Semi-Nightless, but an Animal d1 lynch is an extremely easy lynch/push for scum which I'm disliking

Of course everyone else is FUCKING AFK and Animal trolling is literally stupid --- final decision: START FUCKING PLAYING OR IM LYNCHING YOU I DONT CARE

And to RAD, more reads would be appreicated, because iirc the only read you had was animal:null (no help at all) unless im blind (which i might be sorry)

More interesting news: ODM still hasnt posted, Hawkie is on PS but never comes on to talk

yeah the interesting news were more afkers wow so interesting
 

I thought my other post kinda implied this but maybe not, SR Xnad Scumlean ZoL. Strong Townlean bordering on a full TR of fenrir, but its only d1 so i def dont wanna lock in anything as certain there. At work right now so i cant post too much. Since i doubt i can get xnad lynched today even though its a weaker SR im gonna UNLYNCH AND LYNCH ZoL
this is a better lynch than animal imo.

[Bomb Moss]

If you doubt you can be me lynched then set me up for the lynch. Highlight what I've done that made me scum in your eyes, and point that out to everyone. It's not that hard showing your reads.

Also to Ironic, it's not that hard reading Fenrir's post, most of the post is quote anyways.

On mobile so can't really quote and destroy every post made but I'll just give a few of my comments of some things.

[Bomb Moss]

I'm "frankly annoyed" you don't see the problem in repeatedly posting 'don't lynch me' even outside RVS.

[Bomb Moss]

Fuck I need to go to school so uh, will destroy posts later

[Fenrir]

Excuse you, I have an amazing life full of...mafia. And stuff. Small thing: Lyncher win doesn't end the game, but the Lyncher does exit upon winning. I think Xnad mentioned, but most of my more recent "wallposts" are just quotes with my comments added in bold.

If we're comparing to anon still, I still find Ani to be more comparable to Anita than Mirror Serena, as the latter was Vigvig not having much to say/being busy with school while the former was OM trolling and wifoming the entire game to the point where scum only lost due to the other partner sleeping through the 2v1 LyLo deadline (still salty about that and will be to the end of time). Basically, I find it to be more likely to be scum trying to wifom than town doing...something.

Since this seems to be a recurring theme already, please explain your reads when you give them or they should be completely disregarded and the person giving them looked at more closely.

I know for a fact ODM's having issues accessing the forums (and should be able to tomorrow) but no idea what's up with Hawkie.

Fenrir is going to compile his reads soon. Probably after watching Jeopardy because he's a nerd.

[RADicate]

Jul 25, 2017 22:40:39 GMT Bomb Moss said:

I'm "frankly annoyed" you don't see the problem in repeatedly posting 'don't lynch me' even outside RVS.

Never did i say i dont see the problem in it, as i agree its shitty. And i said i would like ani's reads in a previous post (i stand by this, still want the read tbh), i just said for ani its not neccessarily a scumtell. Would prefer if you dont twist my words xnad bb.

[clc ironic]

Hawkie probably forgot about this game due to the excess amount of trollers and AFKers there are

And possibly, I don't blame him

-_-

[Fenrir]

What really sucks about my computer is that I lost the ability to search the thread and as a result can't ISO effectively. That's part of the cause for the delay in this list.

1: Fenrir: I claim Lyncher, this is my target. Lynch Fenrir

2: Daddy Cosby (Ironic Ninja)
: My top townread atm. Rather than restrict themselves to the setup the discussion they have simultaneously been scumhunting, which shows a genuine effort to gamesolve. His hypo/cop claiming plan also seems more like a town effort to let the cop safely out scum as opposed to scum trying to bait a cop claim. I think the opinion itself is NAI, but the way he's been going about it isn't an attempt to over-centralize the issue which I feel both scum parties (maybe not lyncher) would do (werewolves to get the inspects, mafia to kill them later on). Leaning town.

3: bored6886: Forgot he existed but when I saw the name I knew for a fact he had some content because I'd seen him post. The lack of ability to multiquote is saddening, but his content amounts to:

ubderdogedevourer



Please stop posting that pic, no-body wants to see that zombie dog

So there's cause for concern there. (Hope I got the quote tags right.) You've been active in other parts of the forum though, so are you intentionally ignoring the game? Neutral, leaning scum.

4: snakemaster69 (Hawkie)
: I don't think Hawkie ever responded to the initial pressure save a joke(?) response to Rad's vote. While they haven't 100% dropped off the face of the earth as far as the game's concerned, it's concerning that their reduction in activity times with the attention shifting off them and onto others. Neutral, weakly leaning scum.

5: shanice the unicorn (Toni)
: Has one post that joins the dissent against Ani, and even that's just a "you're better than this." Would love to hear your thoughts on virtually anything. Neutral, leaning scum.

6: ODM: Hope to see some content when he figures out the forums.
Null.

7: uberdogedevourer (XnadrojX)
: Another person who has been fairly active in the thread. Even though I dislike the No Lynch plan (we have a 50% chance of lynching scum and 2 lynches per day, and as I've mentioned to the point of everyone's annoyance probably I think there are too many variables at night) there's something about it (I'm not sure what) that makes me think it unlikely that scum would suggest it (unless they really wanted that towncred). On the other hand, most of his posts have been either about if we should lynch or not or defending himself, with not a lot of analysis of other players (it's there but not very much.) Neutral.

8: Kind Kangaroo Killer (ZestOfLife)
: Minor thing first, I notice that there are occasionally posts Zest has "liked." Not sure if these are ideas he's giving a +1 to but if so it implies he believes Hawkie slipped by only mentioning Lyncher and Mafia (as he liked Rad's post mentioning this). Besides this, I don't really get the issues people have with his readlist (aside from the lack of detail). I think feeling pressured to post is NAI as there are a number of players in this game who have felt pressured to post-or should at least, and I personally like the fact that he showed up with a readlist instead of filler. I also don't really get the problem people have with the Ani read/lynch, as it's similar to the problem many others have brought up with Ani and I interpreted the vote as an attempt to pressure. Want to hear Zest go into more detail with his reads (I see that first list was made on mobile) and some of the other discussions going on regarding other players and setup things like hypo/NL.

9: chatterseel: I actually forgot cseel was in the game and they've yet to post anything in it. Null.

10: queen erotica (Champ1604): I've discussed this and would ISO him to get my point across, but see my comment at the top of this post. So here's a summary.

Page 5-One post at the bottom of the page calling it "weird" that I share an FoS (on Ani) with someone I have a lynch on (Hawkie), which isn't really that weird. This post isn't in itself weird, but in conjunction with the rest of Champ's posts I can very easily see a Champ/Ani scumteam.
Page 6-Some filler posts.
Page 8-Acknowledges he's inactive and how nobody pushed him for it, implying he intends to fix that. Yet all we get is an Ask Me Anything as opposed to an attempt to analyze what's happening in the game. Talks about how he doesn't want to join the Ani wagon (which at the time effectively exists only for pressure) because of the chance of Ani flipping Cop-this kind of logic can be applied to literally any player in the game and it's a 1/12 chance, and the Cop can very easily claim if they're about to be lynched, making this feel like Champ felt compelled to explain why he wasn't voting for Ani even though nobody was really suspecting of it. (Self-consciousness.)
Page 9-Suggests that he's not giving his reads because of how people reacted to Zest's readlist and attempts to create a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation using two different posts from two different people DIRECTED at two different people in two different CONTEXTS. Attempts to discredit the read on him based on player meta of all things and apparently believes himself to be superior because he "looks at all the possibilities" which not only has he not demonstrated yet but is extremely vague. Proceeds to give the hedgiest read on me I have seen in a while with another, this time hypothetical "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation. If I weren't so frustrated with Ani's bare-bones content I'd switch to him right now. It's a good thing we have 2 lynches per day. Scum.

11: THE GREAT GATSBY (RADicate)
: I like the fact that he came back to explain things, and I like his explanation. I also like that he's stayed after to discuss more than things directed at him. I'd like to see him go into more detail with his reads though, so at the moment: Neutral.

12: spiderlover77: I've discussed this as well and can summarize it pretty easily: "filler filler filler (vote ZoL when it conveniently forms a counterwagon) filler (vote Fenrir in what looks a lot like an omgus) give reasoning for nothing." I'm not calling for everyone to suddenly turbo him, but I don't see why people think there's potential reasoning for Ani as town to do this and continue it when pressured. Scum.

[Fenrir]

Just noticed that based on the starting order of that it could b interpreted as being from town to scum all the way down. This is not the case, it's based on Vigvig's list on page 1. I'm looking through what I've missed now.

[Deleted]

VigilanteVigoroth add me in as a sub been lurking this game for wayyyyyyy too long I gotta get in

[Fenrir]

Jul 26, 2017 1:09:54 GMT RADicate said:

Jul 25, 2017 22:40:39 GMT Bomb Moss said:

I'm "frankly annoyed" you don't see the problem in repeatedly posting 'don't lynch me' even outside RVS.

Never did i say i dont see the problem in it, as i agree its shitty. And i said i would like ani's reads in a previous post (i stand by this, still want the read tbh), i just said for ani its not neccessarily a scumtell. Would prefer if you dont twist my words xnad bb.

Let me just say that I thought that was directed at me because I use that phrase so much, Xnad.

So Rad, you think it's player meta? What about Ani continuing it even when the game was no longer in RVS?

[Umbrella]

confused. what clarifies the end of RVS. I never saw a dedicated end point.

[clc ironic]

Jul 26, 2017 1:24:46 GMT Fenrir said:

What really sucks about my computer is that I lost the ability to search the thread and as a result can't ISO effectively. That's part of the cause for the delay in this list.

1: Fenrir: I claim Lyncher, this is my target. Lynch Fenrir  You know, I dislike wifom, so Fenrir must be scum.  if you take me seriously I will find you D:

2: Daddy Cosby (Ironic Ninja)
: My top townread atm. Rather than restrict themselves to the setup the discussion they have simultaneously been scumhunting, which shows a genuine effort to gamesolve. His hypo/cop claiming plan also seems more like a town effort to let the cop safely out scum as opposed to scum trying to bait a cop claim. I think the opinion itself is NAI, but the way he's been going about it isn't an attempt to over-centralize the issue which I feel both scum parties (maybe not lyncher) would do (werewolves to get the inspects, mafia to kill them later on). Leaning town. Thank you, I would agree tbh :^)

3: bored6886: Forgot he existed but when I saw the name I knew for a fact he had some content because I'd seen him post. The lack of ability to multiquote is saddening, but his content amounts to:

ubderdogedevourer



Please stop posting that pic, no-body wants to see that zombie dog

So there's cause for concern there. (Hope I got the quote tags right.) You've been active in other parts of the forum though, so are you intentionally ignoring the game? Neutral, leaning scum. Can't and won't say much about bored since HE IS AFK and DOESNT TALK, but intentionally ignoring the game can mean alot of things, like not having interest or being overwhelmed. I think it could just be him being lazy af (he comes on and then goes on PS) but theres really no justifiable read UNTIL HE TALKS. I'd say null for now tbh, with that lazy filler post, maybe a slight scumlean.

4: snakemaster69 (Hawkie)
: I don't think Hawkie ever responded to the initial pressure save a joke(?) response to Rad's vote. While they haven't 100% dropped off the face of the earth as far as the game's concerned, it's concerning that their reduction in activity times with the attention shifting off them and onto others. Neutral, weakly leaning scum. The activity time dropped off mainly for 2 reasons: A. other people posted more (*akem, no life fenrir*) and B. he's just lazy (he's always on PS lol)...I don't even know. Null to me.

5: shanice the unicorn (Toni)
: Has one post that joins the dissent against Ani, and even that's just a "you're better than this." Would love to hear your thoughts on virtually anything. Neutral, leaning scum. I personally don't like filler posts that TRY to look like they are in the game (as he did with his latest post)...they look like extremely lazy scum, leaning scum on this one (but want thoughts/reads first before I would lynch).

6: ODM: Hope to see some content when he figures out the forums.
Null. Big noob and overrated :^)

7: uberdogedevourer (XnadrojX)
: Another person who has been fairly active in the thread. Even though I dislike the No Lynch plan (we have a 50% chance of lynching scum and 2 lynches per day, and as I've mentioned to the point of everyone's annoyance probably I think there are too many variables at night) there's something about it (I'm not sure what) that makes me think it unlikely that scum would suggest it (unless they really wanted that towncred). On the other hand, most of his posts have been either about if we should lynch or not or defending himself, with not a lot of analysis of other players (it's there but not very much.) Neutral. TOTALLY FORGOT ABOUT THE TWO LYNCHES PER DAY, though if this nl thing is really a thing, then it must mean the first lynch goes straight to night...? Interesting thing will backscrolling on xnad with Fenrir's comments in mind...he says "It's not that hard showing your reads." Might I mention this is coming from a guy who's only defending himself, talking about NL mostly (thats fine), but doing almost minimal scumhunting effort? You would think at this point his vote would be changed since we are practically out of rvs (its on the nonexistent odm), but nope. Just defending himself. Slight scumlean, would want reads before saying more (you dont wanna be a hypocrite, do you :3)

8: Kind Kangaroo Killer (ZestOfLife)
: Minor thing first, I notice that there are occasionally posts Zest has "liked." Not sure if these are ideas he's giving a +1 to but if so it implies he believes Hawkie slipped by only mentioning Lyncher and Mafia (as he liked Rad's post mentioning this). Besides this, I don't really get the issues people have with his readlist (aside from the lack of detail). I think feeling pressured to post is NAI as there are a number of players in this game who have felt pressured to post-or should at least, and I personally like the fact that he showed up with a readlist instead of filler. I also don't really get the problem people have with the Ani read/lynch, as it's similar to the problem many others have brought up with Ani and I interpreted the vote as an attempt to pressure. Want to hear Zest go into more detail with his reads (I see that first list was made on mobile) and some of the other discussions going on regarding other players and setup things like hypo/NL. A. What is your read for this? I assume its null but ok...What really I think bugs other people bugs me too, which is the COMPLETE lack of detail on the posts. Personally I wouldn't scumread for this, but given the slot zest was in (needed to make a good first impression), it's fairly reasonable zest did exactly what he needed to do (if you didn't read, make a good first impression). Wouldn't be too worried though, because he did say "These reads will improve once the game does progress.", but I think another thing that bugs people is zest's reads themselves. He specifically notices Animal's filler --- not bored, not hawkie, not rad. More thoughts on zest later in the post, for now i'd watch out for the kangaroo killer, hes probably not kind (oh and improve those reads your reads will appreicate it).

9: chatterseel: I actually forgot cseel was in the game and they've yet to post anything in it. Null. Lol same I haven't seen cseel in PS either ribs (null if you were blind)
10: queen erotica (Champ1604): I've discussed this and would ISO him to get my point across, but see my comment at the top of this post. So here's a summary.

Page 5-One post at the bottom of the page calling it "weird" that I share an FoS (on Ani) with someone I have a lynch on (Hawkie), which isn't really that weird. This post isn't in itself weird, but in conjunction with the rest of Champ's posts I can very easily see a Champ/Ani scumteam. I can see how it's weird, but it is a multiball theme so it's not really that weird...ok it's not THAT weird but I can see where it comes from.
Page 6-Some filler posts.
Page 8-Acknowledges he's inactive and how nobody pushed him for it, implying he intends to fix that. Yet all we get is an Ask Me Anything as opposed to an attempt to analyze what's happening in the game. Talks about how he doesn't want to join the Ani wagon (which at the time effectively exists only for pressure) because of the chance of Ani flipping Cop-this kind of logic can be applied to literally any player in the game and it's a 1/12 chance, and the Cop can very easily claim if they're about to be lynched, making this feel like Champ felt compelled to explain why he wasn't voting for Ani even though nobody was really suspecting of it. (Self-consciousness.) Did NOT like the ani might flip cop will not lynch him thing, I explained this in a previous post and its 10pm so I gotta go fast 
Page 9-Suggests that he's not giving his reads because of how people reacted to Zest's readlist and attempts to create a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation using two different posts from two different people DIRECTED at two different people in two different CONTEXTS. Attempts to discredit the read on him based on player meta of all things and apparently believes himself to be superior because he "looks at all the possibilities" which not only has he not demonstrated yet but is extremely vague. Proceeds to give the hedgiest read on me I have seen in a while with another, this time hypothetical "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation. If I weren't so frustrated with Ani's bare-bones content I'd switch to him right now. It's a good thing we have 2 lynches per day. Scum.

11: THE GREAT GATSBY (RADicate)
: I like the fact that he came back to explain things, and I like his explanation. I also like that he's stayed after to discuss more than things directed at him. I'd like to see him go into more detail with his reads though, so at the moment: Neutral.

12: spiderlover77: I've discussed this as well and can summarize it pretty easily: "filler filler filler (vote ZoL when it conveniently forms a counterwagon) filler (vote Fenrir in what looks a lot like an omgus) give reasoning for nothing." I'm not calling for everyone to suddenly turbo him, but I don't see why people think there's potential reasoning for Ani as town to do this and continue it when pressured. Scum.

super sorry, will give feedback on page9 of champ, rad, and spider tommorow --- my parents are forcing me to sleep. ):

[Fenrir]

Jul 26, 2017 2:04:59 GMT Umbrella said:

confused. what clarifies the end of RVS. I never saw a dedicated end point.

Could have sworn I responded to this, but I guess not. You are 100% aware that there is no "dedicated endpoint" but it's pretty obvious when RVS is no longer going on and continued the filler anyway.

Oml take clc seriously turbo this scum!

Re: Hawkie, there's nothing stopping them from commenting on what's going in imo, even if it doesn't relate to them directly.

I think a NL with the first lynch would basically just cut short our first 72 hours and send us to the second-aka it makes sense at no point unless we're doing it close to deadline. Clc pointing out Xnad talking about how it's not that hard to give reads makes me a bit more suspicious of Xnad, who I'm sure has opinions given that he is a very...opinionated person. (Let's go with that, yeah.)

Forgot to actually write out the word with Zest, gg. I'm neutral on him yes (I usually use null for "no read"). I think Ani being mentioned over others is possibly the result of Ani's being more prominent, but as I want to see Zest's own thoughts I want to minimize the number of explanations he can take from other people right now.

[incognito]

Hi, I've been extremely busy this week and i'll still be busy until friday, just logged in to say i can't participate at all for now because i don't have time to read stuff. promise i'll be back on friday.

[Umbrella]

Jul 25, 2017 1:09:50 GMT Umbrella said:

Hi the one thing I said was not to lynch me your all failing gg

hmm ok I'm looking back and I'll admit this line and the one after it are after what seems to be the prominent RVS section 

[Champ1604]

There was some problem with multi quoting, though I have tried my best to put it in quotations.

Jul 25, 2017 19:13:13 GMT Fenrir said:

Jul 25, 2017 16:08:42 GMT Champ1604 said:

Ehh, I'm done.

When you give your reads in your post after you have been inactive:

When you don't give your reads: 

It should be blatant that Hawkie and I clearly disagree on ZoL's readlist, so I don't see why you're trying to make a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation. This is making it come across as you trying to give an excuse for not giving a readlist (which nobody was asking you for before but you clearly thought they were yet haven't given).

Also, I shouldn't be player-meta'ing No, you really shouldn't. but why do you always have an issue when someone states a possibility and clarifies it on their own, and it's chill when you do that yourself? Give examples please because I don't know what you're referring to. Like, you must be a player who has a limited view on the possibilities fine, but I'm a player who looks upon all the possibilities. Again give examples, because so far the only "possibility" you've looked at is "what if Ani's cop" which can be applied to literally anyone. And the way you frame it as to even though "Ani wagon is effectively a pressure wagon", it really seems a bad way to advertise your reason for the lynch. Yes, because pressure wagons need to be advertised and I should be upset with anyone not on them. And when was the last time you actually provided a reason for stating someone's reason as 'bad'? I'm pretty sure I can look through here and Classic 11 and find a few. Now now, my plan to type next was 'I really hate how Fenrir plays like this and I honestly SR them for this, like the only thing they have is activity and just lynching a player who's awfully playing bad', but then I know Fenrir will post something like 'I don't like how Champ is buddying Ani', and if I don't say that, then Fenrir would post something like 'You state someone bad but don't SR them'. If you're going to scumread me for something, do it and quit hedging, because that's scummier than either of the scenarios you hypothesize. Make up your mind-do you scumread me or not? By the way, I already don't like the connection you have to Ani, I don't see what's wrong with pressuring someone who's playing poorly, and I'm semi-surprised that my activity is the only thing you comment on in your "read" as opposed to any of the content. Activity is clearly not the only thing I have currently, unless you're proposing that my posts so far have been 100% filler (like Ani's).

Plenty I want to respond to, but I don't know how long I can be on and wanted to start with this. Responses are in bold.

"I shouldn't be player-meta'ing" "No you really shouldn't."
Name a forum game on Circus Maximus where people didn't use player meta. 

"Give examples please because I don't know what you're referring to"
11p Classic page 9, 13th post from the top | page 11, 13th post from the top (both are the 13th post lmaooo)

And LOL I found one in this GAME itself
" and the Cop can very easily claim if they're about to be lynched, making this feel like Champ felt compelled to explain why he wasn't voting for Ani even though nobody was really suspecting of it. (Self-consciousness.)"

" If you're going to scumread me for something, do it and quit hedging, because that's scummier than either of the scenarios you hypothesize." hmm so you say me to not state the situation but go with a situation which I stated? This is the best play I have ever seen. Just like 'Drowning and Falling will both kill me. But if I keep fearing them, I will die a more painful death, so I may just as well die by drowning.'

"because of the chance of Ani flipping Cop-this kind of logic can be applied to literally any player in the game and it's a 1/12 chance" duck if it wasn't obvious enough, the reason I considered them to be cop because of them posting 'don't lynch me' and i'm taking it as a soft for cop claim >-> your interpretations are just to frame people scum

and you just kept quoting 'posting "you can ask me anything" to fix his inactivity" and didn't care as to why I would post that, like because of- oh just a second lemme quote this first:  

(snakemaster69 said): It feels more like a "forced" post from a non-town aligned player trying to feign that they're making an effort to read the other players in the game rather than a townie who feels he's at the point in his analysis of the game that he should post a reads list.

the practical reason for why I didn't post reads. Was expecting someone to tell me to say my reads, but Fenrir loves to get a scumread in hand to prevent themselves from being SR'ed.

"and apparently believes himself to be superior because he "looks at all the possibilities" which not only has he not demonstrated yet but is extremely vague." IM DONE LOL ARE YOU SERIOUSLY INCAPABLE OF SEEING THINGS OTHER THAN ONE'S SCUMMY FACTS? LITERALLY EVERYTHING YOU QUOTED COMES IN THIS. From the 'damned this damned that' situation you love to say, to being 'self conscious', EVERYTHING LMAOOO

"Proceeds to give the hedgiest read on me I have seen in a while with another, this time hypothetical "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation." as I said before, 'And when was the last time you actually provided a reason for stating someone's reason as 'bad'?'

and lastly " but in conjunction with the rest of Champ's posts I can very easily see a Champ/Ani scumteam."

WHAT DID I SAY? I CAN SEE THE FUTURE OMG "but then I know Fenrir will post something like 'I don't like how Champ is buddying Ani'"

and since you have already said it,
Lynch Fenrir.

[Bomb Moss]

Jul 26, 2017 1:09:54 GMT RADicate said:

Jul 25, 2017 22:40:39 GMT Bomb Moss said:

I'm "frankly annoyed" you don't see the problem in repeatedly posting 'don't lynch me' even outside RVS.

Never did i say i dont see the problem in it, as i agree its shitty. And i said i would like ani's reads in a previous post (i stand by this, still want the read tbh), i just said for ani its not neccessarily a scumtell. Would prefer if you dont twist my words xnad bb.

not directed to you, was directed to Ani's "I'm frankly annoyed I'm getting lynched". This si twisting of MY words rad bb.

[Bomb Moss]

Ok so gave thread a brief skim (on the way home from school rn) and I just want to point out "opinionated" is not a word.

Re: Champ1604 player meta, yes player meta is used everywhere, but in moderation. Idk where the player meta is but I'm just responding like this till I'm home and with my computer.

Re: dumb case on me, just because I'm not voicing my reads rn doesn't mean I don't have them. Just because I'm not announcing exactly how I'm scumhunting doesn't mean I'm not scumhunting. I could give a very "opinionated" list of reads back at my computer if that's how I feel like playing, but my lack of current content doesn't mean I don't have content planned. That said that defense is really screwy I understand since y'know, but I have my ways.

I think the dickmaster either forgot the game or felt too frustrated to continue.

Fenrir having a life of nothing but mafia is essentially having no life. Also I'm fairly confident this guy is universal town read. Re: lynching and No Lynch, I agree that lynching someone scummy is almost certainly more beneficial than lynching no one, but my vote staying on No Lynch is by no means a declaration to intend to never vote anyone. If scum shows themselves, I have no qualms against lynching them.

Re: defending myself, lol why won't I try to defend myself? It's effortless when the case is shit anyways.

Re: RAD's point #5, it refers to how you only started going on the offensive when something was said against you. You had no opinions presented otherwise.

The re-analysis changed my view on RAD as when I originally posted, I had only barely skimmed the thread and the vote felt Normal RVS "Press A to Pound" BS, but closer inspection felt like it was a bandwagoning attempt to keep an RVS wagon going, which lessens the information given by town.


Responding to most notable objective issues rn, responding to more subjective issues later when I have time to think about what I feel.

[Bomb Moss]

Also champ make your post more readable lol. Gonna do other less mind-intensive things until I'm back at my computer destroying posts.

[clc ironic]

Jul 26, 2017 9:13:21 GMT Champ1604 said:

There was some problem with multi quoting, though I have tried my best to put it in quotations.

Jul 25, 2017 19:13:13 GMT Fenrir said:

Plenty I want to respond to, but I don't know how long I can be on and wanted to start with this. Responses are in bold.

"I shouldn't be player-meta'ing" "No you really shouldn't."
Name a forum game on Circus Maximus where people didn't use player meta. 

"Give examples please because I don't know what you're referring to"
11p Classic page 9, 13th post from the top | page 11, 13th post from the top (both are the 13th post lmaooo)

And LOL I found one in this GAME itself
" and the Cop can very easily claim if they're about to be lynched, making this feel like Champ felt compelled to explain why he wasn't voting for Ani even though nobody was really suspecting of it. (Self-consciousness.)"

" If you're going to scumread me for something, do it and quit hedging, because that's scummier than either of the scenarios you hypothesize." hmm so you say me to not state the situation but go with a situation which I stated? This is the best play I have ever seen. Just like 'Drowning and Falling will both kill me. But if I keep fearing them, I will die a more painful death, so I may just as well die by drowning.'

"because of the chance of Ani flipping Cop-this kind of logic can be applied to literally any player in the game and it's a 1/12 chance" duck if it wasn't obvious enough, the reason I considered them to be cop because of them posting 'don't lynch me' and i'm taking it as a soft for cop claim >-> your interpretations are just to frame people scum

and you just kept quoting 'posting "you can ask me anything" to fix his inactivity" and didn't care as to why I would post that, like because of- oh just a second lemme quote this first:  

(snakemaster69 said): It feels more like a "forced" post from a non-town aligned player trying to feign that they're making an effort to read the other players in the game rather than a townie who feels he's at the point in his analysis of the game that he should post a reads list.

the practical reason for why I didn't post reads. Was expecting someone to tell me to say my reads, but Fenrir loves to get a scumread in hand to prevent themselves from being SR'ed.

"and apparently believes himself to be superior because he "looks at all the possibilities" which not only has he not demonstrated yet but is extremely vague." IM DONE LOL ARE YOU SERIOUSLY INCAPABLE OF SEEING THINGS OTHER THAN ONE'S SCUMMY FACTS? LITERALLY EVERYTHING YOU QUOTED COMES IN THIS. From the 'damned this damned that' situation you love to say, to being 'self conscious', EVERYTHING LMAOOO

"Proceeds to give the hedgiest read on me I have seen in a while with another, this time hypothetical "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation." as I said before, 'And when was the last time you actually provided a reason for stating someone's reason as 'bad'?'

and lastly " but in conjunction with the rest of Champ's posts I can very easily see a Champ/Ani scumteam."

WHAT DID I SAY? I CAN SEE THE FUTURE OMG "but then I know Fenrir will post something like 'I don't like how Champ is buddying Ani'"

and since you have already said it,
Lynch Fenrir.

Agreeing with the bloody doge --- make your post fucking readable

The only thing I see is "Lynch Fenrir" which I already disagree with 

Your saying Fenrir is attacking you for BS therefore you lynch him

Can you give me thoughts on Animallover and ZestOfLife?

Notice how I made this post readable

[Fenrir]

Jul 26, 2017 9:13:21 GMT Champ1604 said:

There was some problem with multi quoting, though I have tried my best to put it in quotations.

Jul 25, 2017 19:13:13 GMT Fenrir said:

Plenty I want to respond to, but I don't know how long I can be on and wanted to start with this. Responses are in bold.

"I shouldn't be player-meta'ing" "No you really shouldn't."
Name a forum game on Circus Maximus where people didn't use player meta. If everyone on Circus leapt into a meat grinder, would you do it too?

"Give examples please because I don't know what you're referring to"
11p Classic page 9, 13th post from the top (In which I explain why something you did is scummy)| page 11, 13th post from the top (In which I explain the problem with white-knighting. Neither supports your point.) (both are the 13th post lmaooo)

And LOL I found one in this GAME itself
" and the Cop can very easily claim if they're about to be lynched, making this feel like Champ felt compelled to explain why he wasn't voting for Ani even though nobody was really suspecting of it. (Self-consciousness.)" And...? Indicate where someone asked why you weren't voting Ani and this may be valid.

" If you're going to scumread me for something, do it and quit hedging, because that's scummier than either of the scenarios you hypothesize." hmm so you say me to not state the situation but go with a situation which I stated? This is the best play I have ever seen. Just like 'Drowning and Falling will both kill me. But if I keep fearing them, I will die a more painful death, so I may just as well die by drowning.' I say to you to quit beating around the bush with what few reads you have and make up your mind, as well as to quit making excuses for not doing things with "I'm screwed either way" comments like these.

"because of the chance of Ani flipping Cop-this kind of logic can be applied to literally any player in the game and it's a 1/12 chance" duck if it wasn't obvious enough, the reason I considered them to be cop because of them posting 'don't lynch me' and i'm taking it as a soft for cop claim >-> your interpretations are just to frame people scum Yes, because that is such a blatant and phenomenal soft. I'll keep this in mind next time I'm Cop on PS.

and you just kept quoting 'posting "you can ask me anything" to fix his inactivity" and didn't care as to why I would post that, like because of- oh just a second lemme quote this first:  

(snakemaster69 said): It feels more like a "forced" post from a non-town aligned player trying to feign that they're making an effort to read the other players in the game rather than a townie who feels he's at the point in his analysis of the game that he should post a reads list.

the practical reason for why I didn't post reads. Was expecting someone to tell me to say my reads, but Fenrir loves to get a scumread in hand to prevent themselves from being SR'ed. "Say your reads." Since you're evidently incapable of doing something without being told yo, there you go.

"and apparently believes himself to be superior because he "looks at all the possibilities" which not only has he not demonstrated yet but is extremely vague." IM DONE LOL ARE YOU SERIOUSLY INCAPABLE OF SEEING THINGS OTHER THAN ONE'S SCUMMY FACTS? LITERALLY EVERYTHING YOU QUOTED COMES IN THIS. From the 'damned this damned that' situation you love to say, to being 'self conscious', EVERYTHING LMAOOO This is just you salting and I genuinely can't interpret it. "You're looking at scummy things, look at something else" is how I interpret it currently and that makes no sense.

"Proceeds to give the hedgiest read on me I have seen in a while with another, this time hypothetical "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation." as I said before, 'And when was the last time you actually provided a reason for stating someone's reason as 'bad'?' Check my comment on Rad's lynch; that's the first thing to come to mind. The same can be said for Ani's lynches so far.

and lastly " but in conjunction with the rest of Champ's posts I can very easily see a Champ/Ani scumteam."

WHAT DID I SAY? I CAN SEE THE FUTURE OMG "but then I know Fenrir will post something like 'I don't like how Champ is buddying Ani'" Funny thing. When I say "in conjunction with the rest of Champ's posts, it usually means "in conjunction with the rest of Champ's posts." A Champ/Ani scumteam's been almost too obvious to be legitimate from the start, so I don't know why you think this is some new thing.

and since you have already said it,
Lynch Fenrir.

Took long enough for you to finally develop an opinion on one player. Please read the game, stop giving excuses, explain your reads on others, and find information that actually supports your opinions.

[clc ironic]

Jul 26, 2017 2:04:59 GMT Umbrella said:

confused. what clarifies the end of RVS. I never saw a dedicated end point.

Joke Answer: WHEN YOU STOP TROLLING

Real Answer: After Fenrir starts no-lifeing it, so yeah, it's ended already. Sorry bro.

[Fenrir]

Jul 26, 2017 10:39:28 GMT Bomb Moss said:

Ok so gave thread a brief skim (on the way home from school rn) and I just want to point out "opinionated" is not a word.


adjective

conceitedly assertive and dogmatic in one's opinions.

"an arrogant and opinionated man"

synonyms: dogmatic, of fixed views, dictatorial, pontifical, domineering, pompous, self-important, arrogant

:^


Re: Champ1604 player meta, yes player meta is used everywhere, but in moderation. Idk where the player meta is but I'm just responding like this till I'm home and with my computer. Commented on this above, if anything it reads as Champ salting about I-can-barely-tell-what.

Re: dumb case on me, just because I'm not voicing my reads rn doesn't mean I don't have them. Just because I'm not announcing exactly how I'm scumhunting doesn't mean I'm not scumhunting. I could give a very "opinionated" list of reads back at my computer if that's how I feel like playing, but my lack of current content doesn't mean I don't have content planned. That said that defense is really screwy I understand since y'know, but I have my ways. If you have time I wouldn't mind seeing what thoughts you have.

I think the dickmaster either forgot the game or felt too frustrated to continue. Welp, C7's willing to sub although I think cseel may be more in need of that, so here's hoping Hawkie joins us again.

Fenrir having a life of nothing but mafia is essentially having no life. Confirming. Also I'm fairly confident this guy is universal town read. Champ and Ani say otherwise but ok. Re: lynching and No Lynch, I agree that lynching someone scummy is almost certainly more beneficial than lynching no one, but my vote staying on No Lynch is by no means a declaration to intend to never vote anyone. Your vote's not on No Lynch atm. If scum shows themselves, I have no qualms against lynching them.

Re: defending myself, lol why won't I try to defend myself? It's effortless when the case is shit anyways. The problem I have with it is that right now it makes up the majority of what you have and there's not a lot of looking at others.

Re: RAD's point #5, it refers to how you only started going on the offensive when something was said against you. You had no opinions presented otherwise.

The re-analysis changed my view on RAD as when I originally posted, I had only barely skimmed the thread and the vote felt Normal RVS "Press A to Pound" BS, but closer inspection felt like it was a bandwagoning attempt to keep an RVS wagon going, which lessens the information given by town.


Responding to most notable objective issues rn, responding to more subjective issues later when I have time to think about what I feel.