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Post by Fenrir on Aug 13, 2017 0:13:10 GMT
Something is stirring.
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Post by Umbrella on Aug 13, 2017 0:16:35 GMT
I don't understand how someone died tonight , um something went wrong but zorquax should be clear now.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 0:17:03 GMT
So there is only 1 NK, which now means there cannot be SK/WW (unless Roleblocked/Protected), so I think there are Cult since I doubt Fenrir would put Lyncher/Jester/Survivor.
Something is stirring? ?? If anyone knows what this means, PM me or say it in the thread.
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Post by grantmjc on Aug 13, 2017 0:18:11 GMT
>tfw can now speak
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Aug 13, 2017 0:23:04 GMT
ok zor and ani are conf town as far as i can see, pm me for details
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Post by clc ironic on Aug 13, 2017 0:30:54 GMT
gg 1 death
i guess roleblock? or maybe other shenanigans c:
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Post by clc ironic on Aug 13, 2017 0:33:03 GMT
i'd like this game to continue...so like Drookez sadisticnarwhal can you guys talk real quick, bored is town, and zorquax is town. just wanna let you guys know. aside from that...err, ftf is probably town, rad might be town, cseel could be i guess ig i'll get more scumreads later |
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Post by clc ironic on Aug 13, 2017 0:39:34 GMT
basically leaves animole/odm/xnad/drookez/sad...(grantmjc i think is town or has played us)
animole is in a weird slot, doesn't talk much or do anything but i guess ftf says they are conf town (idk really)
odm has talked with me and aside from is shitty attitude didn't really talk much aside from the fact they think there is a scum in animal/zorquax (wouldn't necessarily agree nor disagree tbh).
i havent talked to xnad yet, will look at his posts more into detail later
drookez hasn't talked to me anywhere
sad told me he would pick up the activity day 2 (really) so i expect some activity now before i make a read
as for the others, i think the other wild card i see here is a possible cseel, though when they talked with me they had a townie enough manner...
aside from me and rad talking early day 1, really haven't talked with him, but he seems townie on the forums i guess...(though not sure what the problem with zorquax and radicate is atm)
gonna hold off on lynching for now, but today my lynchpool is probably the first five i said up there
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Post by clc ironic on Aug 13, 2017 0:40:46 GMT
scratch that, lynch sadistic narwhalhis tone in pms was practically he didn't want to play, and i'm sure hes cool with a little pressure  |
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Post by grantmjc on Aug 13, 2017 1:22:31 GMT
I am currently in a PM conversation with ForgotToFlush regarding his claim that Animallover77 and Zorquaz are confirmed town. This is what was said.
GrantMJC: How are zor and ani conf town?
ForgotToFlush: oh fuck i forgot i said to pm me
ForgotToFlush: uhhh i need an explanation that doesnt ruin me
ForgotToFlush: brb
GrantMJC: What do you mean by "doesn't ruin me" ?
ForgotToFlush: doesnt matter
After a few minutes of silence I decided to send him a quick "hello?" through PMs. It has been several minutes since then so I have decided to post our conversation here. To me, this shows that ForgotToFlush is most likely mafia.
Also, feel free to PM me. I was unable to talk in the main chat day 1, so that is the reason for my previous silence.
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Aug 13, 2017 1:36:09 GMT
holy fuck I need to learn how to read. Ok so fen cleared up my role to me bc I obviously didn't read the whole pm. Hell Fen had to clear it up to me bc I only saw like one word and went with it. So uhhhhh I take back what I previously said until I figured out what I actually fucking did.
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Post by clc ironic on Aug 13, 2017 1:45:18 GMT
what
i dont understand a single word of the grant ftf convo
nor do i understand wtf ftf just said there lol
will re-assess this tommorow when im not tired as fuck
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Post by clc ironic on Aug 13, 2017 2:17:30 GMT
pastebin.com/5snj47u9Me and FTF PMs He explained himself with "I thought everything was lock instead it turns out I didn't know how to read"---seems like a townie reaction to me, and really don't see how this was staged (unless ftf is somehow god). tagging grantmjc
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Post by ❗ on Aug 13, 2017 2:40:36 GMT
welp i figured out why there were deaths today rip
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Post by Fenrir on Aug 13, 2017 3:39:19 GMT
The day has been ended early. A votecount is incoming.
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Post by Fenrir on Aug 13, 2017 3:59:58 GMT
Right, so
I'm a terrible, terrible host. I posted a votecount in which sadisticnarwhal was indeed lynched. The problem is that he was a member of the Anti-Trainer clan, and I neglected to remove the aliases of his partners when posting his Role PM. At least two people saw it before I took it down and I can't verify who else saw it, nor is it fair to the scumteam if they stay in or to them if they sub out, thus the game will be ended as a tie between all factions.
The scumteam consisted of clc ironic (Fletchling), ODM (Salazzle), and sadisticnarwhal (Umbreon). I will post a summary of roles and actions taken Night 1 soon.
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Post by Fenrir on Aug 13, 2017 4:01:03 GMT
The third party, by the way, was cseel (Inquisitor).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 4:03:31 GMT
dang. rip af :/ this was gonna be fun
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 4:06:58 GMT
damn clc bussed sadistic basically :^)
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Post by Fenrir on Aug 13, 2017 4:20:16 GMT
1. ForgotToFlush-Archen. Bodyguard, becomes untargetable when protecting someone. Can't use this ability if the day ends with a vote against you.
2. THE GREAT GATSBY (Radicate)-Swadloon. 3-shot self-doctor.
3. ajhockeystar (Zorquax)-Vanilluxe. If targeted by two or more players, roleblock everyone not visiting you.
4. animallover77-Vespiquen. OS Vigilante, OS Doctor, OS Self Doctor. Ninja modifier.
5. ODM-Salazzle. Choose to poison or burn a player, this but not the factional kill has the ninja modifier.
6. splashattackLOL (VigilanteVigoroth)Toxapex, see role PM.
7. Mafia Psychologist (cseel)-Solgaleo. OSBP Ascetic Inquisitor (maximum cult size of 3 including dead players and self). Can once during the day end the day early on plur (what you saw happen here, disabled in MyLo/Lylo) and can once during the day enable all players to speak in thread at night (hence no night talking allowed)
8. uberdogedevourer (Xnadrojx/Bomb Moss)-Patrat. Watcher/Voyeur, doesn't learn who used which action on the target.
9. shubaka17 Primarina, see role PM.
10. clc ironic-Fletchling. Reflexive Hater (Had a fake role PM they could use that described a Reflexive Lovedizer.)
11. Broken Jukebox (Bored_6886)-Infernape. Visitor, if you are nightkilled attack your target and anyone else visiting them, burn any survivors.
12. sadisticnarwhal-Umbreon. Roleblocker Ninja, loses the ninja aspect if roleblocking that night.
13. Drookez-Oricorio. Pregame choose a forme, night action varies based on forme or can choose to change. Red: Burn one player. Pink: Target a user and kill them if they are performing a kill. Yellow: Motivator. Purple: Choose a dead player and enable them to speak in-thread the next day.
14. grantmjc-Kyogre. Day 1 Voteless Silenced, Day 2 Voteless OR Silenced, Day 4 onwards Bulletproof King. (Can still lose via being endgamed).
Pregame:
Drookez: Choose Red (Randomized at daystart)
ACTIONS N1:
ForgotToFlush: Target Zorquax
Radicate: Protect Self (BLOCKED)
Zorquax: Idle
Animallover77: Protect Zorquax
ODM: Burn Radicate (BLOCKED)
VigilanteVigoroth: Use Baneful Bunker (BLOCKED)
cseel: Kill VigilanteVigoroth (Not blocked due to being ascetic)
XnadrojX: Idle (Didn't send in time)
clc ironic: Idle
Bored6886: Visit clc ironic (BLOCKED)
sadisticnarwhal: Kill Zorquax (Ninja, failed due to target being protected)
Drookez: Idle (Didn't send action in tgime)
Grant: Choose to speak in-thread.
With FtF functionally being a bodyguard, they didn't die in Zorquax's place due to Ani's OS Doc having precedence.
Due to the number of people targeting Zorquax, all other actions were blocked. The exception was cseel's kill on VigVig, as cseel was ascetic and thus could not be blocked.
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Post by Fenrir on Aug 13, 2017 4:44:55 GMT
This was connected to Grant, whose role (Kyogre) was designed as a massive red herring for third party. Day 3 a message of "It started to rain," would have been posted. These messages had no effect other than being tied to the role's progression. |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Aug 13, 2017 5:22:07 GMT
So for all those I talked to, and laid out the plan to, I'd like to explain a couple of things:
The original plan:
I misread my role quite horribly and thought I was a hider. Now seeing Al77 and Zorquack buddy so hard gave me an idea.
So thinking I was hider, I decided to hide behind Zorquack, in doing so planning to confirm his as town. With the way Zor and Al77 buddied, this would confirm Al77 as town. As for confirming myself, it would confirm me as hider. I would evade Zor's mass rb which would be activated by two people targeting him (Me + Al77). The evidence for the rb would be shown due to nobody else having their actions go through.
I communicated various degrees of info to various people. So in the event of something going wrong, I would be able to deduce who the scum are, based on info shared, due to me viewing myself and Zor as low nk priority. If I died, Zorquack was scum, this info had been passed to VigVig, Shub and Clc. If al77 died, Radicate or VigVig would be scum, due to them having info on a77's abilities (this info had been communicated with zor). If me and Zor died, then there was one scum among VigVig, Shub and Clc, since they had knowledge of my night target. (al77 and rad had knowledge of this).
Thus, when the day arrived, if we didn't have 3 conf town, we had a narrow scum-pool which made scum-hunting easier, and the means to do so.
Now here's why the plan nearly took a turn and flew off a cliff. I wasn't hider and I didn't know that until Fen told me. I was actually something closer to ascetic bodyguard, so I could never actually confirm Zor as town or scum. Even worse, if I died, people would think Zor is conf-scum, when really he's semi-conf town. I almost gamethrew because I was too lazy to read the whole role pm ;_; .
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Post by Fenrir on Aug 13, 2017 5:28:56 GMT
Also yes, a lot of the roles were complicated. Cseel and I are already working on making another Pokemafia for fun, with roles that (probably) won't be as complicated.
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Post by Umbrella on Aug 13, 2017 5:38:31 GMT
wow rip fun game for what it was though and I was going to OS Vig ODM the next night after I learned of him spreading some bs rumor about me and zorquax and I called the something is stirring thing being about Grant.
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Post by VigilanteVigoroth on Aug 13, 2017 7:51:00 GMT
My fears were true and the plan was fucked up and didn't work and wouldn't have worked even if FTF read his role If FTF WAS hider Everyone would be roleblocked, and I'm presuming at this point Zor would reveal his role, along with Ani and FTF Due to all the RB's, this would confirm Zorquax as telling the truth about his role, but not his faction We could also be sure that Both FTF and Animal targeted Zorquax in some way, but there would be no way to be sure FTF is a hider, or animal is a joat. Your 'plan' was fucking awful like how I knew it would be (Also the RBing got me NK'd because apparently RB's are faster than me which is dumb because baneful bunker has like +4 priority) That being said, it is a real shame that the game ended through such a small mistake Fenrir  |
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