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Post by VigilanteVigoroth on Nov 15, 2017 15:17:43 GMT
Look at that
BULLETPROOF. JAILKEEPER. ROLEBLOCKER (appears twice since the 2nd combo you states appears twice)
SK's RB
now, tell me. Does you Roleblocking him, and there being 2 other ways of a nightkill not occuring, inherit a scumread
probably
but is it worth outing yourself for?
NO
no its not
im not saying you are scum. I'm saying you shouldnt have claimed
Jav, I dont want him to flip, I want him to talk since he is incredibly silent
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Post by VigilanteVigoroth on Nov 15, 2017 15:19:23 GMT
also I can call rad braindead if I want to he forced his own mason partner to claim by lynching them
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Post by spiderz on Nov 15, 2017 15:19:27 GMT
I was silent like for the first day but like I’m starting to talk rn and also I think I said this before Other bishop please do not claim
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2017 15:35:14 GMT
Ok imma claim town bishop white the reason I unlynched toni was because he claimed black and I wanted to know his Pr so I could find scum PR btw I pr claim RB and last night I targeted Citrus freak and there was only one kill Lynch citrusfreak There are more killstopping roles than just your claimed RB. For example, VigVig claimed mason; perhaps he was doctored or JKed, and scum tried to hit him. Why in the world are you outing yourself as a PR at this stage? If that’s true, just FOS me and try to get me lynched without claiming!Possible interpretation on this: spiderz was a super big global scumread from yesterday, and knew he would be a primary suspect today (see: last 3-4 posts I made yesterday), so he got ahead of the impending lynchtrain and claimed PR beforehand so it wouldn’t look too bad for him. Spiderz claims to have targeted me for a roleblock, I note, but offered no reason as to why. I faintly remember him TR and sheeping me a great deal yesterday, (I’m on mobile, please check if that’s wrong), so that’s suspicious, but I also remember someone, maybe him, claiming bishop yesterday… (also check that) And, of course, for being one of the Toni unvoters: Lynch Spiderz |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2017 15:37:09 GMT
Look at that BULLETPROOF. JAILKEEPER. ROLEBLOCKER (appears twice since the 2nd combo you states appears twice) SK's RB now, tell me. Does you Roleblocking him, and there being 2 other ways of a nightkill not occuring, inherit a scumread probably but is it worth outing yourself for? NO no its not im not saying you are scum. I'm saying you shouldnt have claimed Jav, I dont want him to flip, I want him to talk since he is incredibly silent Exactly my point. That was a very bad move if you’re town, but a mediocre move as scum, so… |
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Post by Prodigu on Nov 15, 2017 16:24:23 GMT
Currently my stance on this matter is as follows; I agree with having spiderz talking more and explaining the situation, however I disagree on having him lynched at this time although yes a bad town move, in the scenario that we lynch him if he does flip town power role it would be very bad for us to have lost a roleblocker, I think that we should try to have him talk more so people can have a better read, I'd like him to talk more so I can give an accurate read for him I'd like some key questions answered, like Why roleblock Citrus? Also why out yourself this early without having any concrete evidence to support Citrus as scum other than rbing him (which isn't much)?
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Nov 15, 2017 16:32:28 GMT
First off, apologies for not making my post last day-phase. PS!fish sort of dragged out b/c g1 gamethrow + redo + me surviving to mylo and I didn't have time to check forums. Toni: I thought that they were SK from the reaction test, but I guess not. Worth noting how Citrus semi-sheeped that read, and Spiderz in turn. Toni seemed to be pushing a YS lynch early game. I have no reason to believe that Toni was bussing there, especially because his reasoning was mostly for YS's edits. The reaction to Citrus's test was very strange, especially how they walked it back by saying the following. I am a black bishop; the reason as to why I wasn't really confused to citrus freak's reaction test was because I thought Citrus Freak was a mason (and masons would be potentially white) Very interesting how they claim that did not initially scumread Citrus. When compared with this other post, something doesn't add up. Unvote Yellow Skarmory That was a reaction test! Wa-hoo! Vote Toni, who did not react *at all* when yellow skarmory "slipped" by saying black pawn. Which means Toni's role is not black pawn, which means... they made to me tbh (note that these are chronologically backwards) Scumreading Citrus but then a complete retract at near deadline is extremely strange. idk if that interaction means town or scum.
Citrus Freak: Very strange slot. I'm honestly very unsure about this. My first impression of the reaction test was townie. After flips, there is reasonable doubt since there are white town roles. I don't see Citrus + YS scum team though. The confident lynch on Toni makes me want to say town, but the following comment does not make sense to me. Toni is so obviously scum, they must be a town power role. I'm not sure what was going on in Citrus's head when he wrote this, and I don't understand the meaning behind this. Now about Toni as possible SK. I was first to bring that up, and Citrus seemed to fully agree with that read. Now read these two posts. Imo Toni over epic because at this point he is bassicly confo SK Mmm, no, they really aren’t. I only said that was my suspicion. Are you sheeping me?I retract my previous assertion that Toni is probably SK. More likely mafia, especially with refusing to claim SK after my offer. I don't recall why I thought that he was SK in the first place. I think Scorrching Theaph or someone said it, and I sheeped it for some reason.Citrus apparently sheeped my read "for some reason," yet they question Spiderz for doing almost the exact same thing. Bus of scum PR seems unlikely though. Freaks' current read/lynch on Spiderz seems a little forced (possible om*us). I'm very on the fence about this.
ForgotToFlush: Main scum read. Initially I thought he was softing Mason with EC or something, but with RAD's flip and VigVig's claim, this is not be the case. I would policy him but there are prs this time around
Lynch Radicate before he game-throws this one too I realize it's a little dumb to being nitpicking over an RVS, but I would like to ask FTFlush why he did not lynch EC. (it's ironic how RAD turned out to be PR though). As scummy as Yellow is, Toni is being blatantly disgusting and it irks me
Unlynch Rad, Vote Toni
Not much else to pick up on from my skim so bless Ignoring the "slip", Yellow Skarm lynching Toni after I lynched them is fucking ridiculous
Unvote Toni, Vote Yellow Skarm
Stop being a fucking potato Early lynch of Toni is worth taking note of, I suspect a early scum team trying to distance themselves. Also suspicious is how he shifted to YS and pretty much relentlessly tunneled them. After his iso of Toni, Flush states: Ordinarily this may seem pretty common for the game BUT there's an underlying tone of doublethink that's gnawing at me. It looks like Toni is trying to please whoever is looking at him at any given moment and has no interests in consistency of principles, indicating shiftiness, signifying scum. He essentially states that he scumreads Toni, but he does not lynch for some reason. A few posts later, out of the blue, Flush gets off of YS saying they "calmed down." FTF's last minute shift to Toni when it was pretty much clear that Toni was going to get lynched, could have easily been a bus. epiccreeper9002: secondary scum read. Early rvs of Toni could have been distancing, and the fact that they actively went out and claimed that it was a "memelynch" seems awfully defensive. Another thing that came up a few times was my early Toni lynch. That was a m e m e l y n c h (also kind of a hatelynch) because seriously, it's not a game of PS!Mafia without a memelynch. Unlynch Toni
Personally, YellowSkarmory's reaction seemed scummy to me. eww defeatism burn it Lynch YellowSkarmory Their reasoning behind a YS lynch is extremely weak. YS's defeatism was very townie to me. See below. YellowSkarmory: Town. When it looked like they were going to get lynched, they seemed very confident about their flip. i should've never mentioned black pawn, but when i flip townie you can figure out that black pawn = vanilla townie Yeah, i know it's over. But hey, at least you'll know Black Pawn = VT now. Unless somehow i got a wrong PM. On top of that, their reaction to Citrus was also townie. There was no rapid om*us and it seems like they only lynched Citrus after thinking it through. spiderz: solid townread. his reaction to Toni and asking which power role specifically adds up with his PR claim. Has been contributing now, after the first 3 weak posts. (exceeded my expectations but maybe my expectations were low). Listing possible PR combinations seems like a solid gamesolve attempt and shows confidence in the fact that he is indeed the role he claims. If there were any townies with a PR not in those combinations, it would've opened up an opportunity to CC there. Javelinlover: Unsure about this slot. I don't understand why they were seeing a YS+Citrus scum team at around Page 7. Personally, I see YS and Toni to be on opposite factions from D1 interactions. Jav seems to be actively scumhunting though. Don't really want this lynched as of now. VigilanteVigoroth: uncced Mason Fenrir: town lean Bomb Moss: null-town Spieky: null-town prodigu: null-town ODM: null Zorquax ◕‿◕: null (shitposter) cseel: null-scum regifire: no comment ScorrchingTheaph: obv scum. likely with Zorquax based on D1 rvs's and how scorrch got off almost instantly, obviously distancing. somehow scorrch still reads quax as null after all of the d1 shitposting, obvious scum buddies. lynched VigVig early in day, obviously trying to force town pr's to claim. asked Champ to claim color, obviously trying to out pr's there. Unlynched Toni after his claim, obv partners with them. Theaph also did not make a follow-up post that day-phase as promised, obviously scum trying to lay low. |
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Post by spiderz on Nov 15, 2017 16:53:16 GMT
Ul citrus
I think you guys have a point so I’m going to ul
If you guys have any q tell me
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2017 16:58:56 GMT
ScorrchingTheaph Just a bit of defeatist humor, bemoaning the possibility that I just led a lynch on a town PR. I did agree with your Toni-as-SK read the time, mainly because I didn't see any collusion to/from Toni, and because I didn't take into consideration the fact that there's an 80% chance any given scum is mafia, not SK. It was narratively delicious to think of Toni as SK as a fun-cool story, even if it wasn't statistically likely. Realizing this flaw with my reasoning was why I changed my opinion later. Sheeping is bad. I saw Spiderz was sheeping, and called it out, but didn't realize I was guilty of the same fallacy until later, whereupon I immediately updated my beliefs.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2017 16:59:55 GMT
Ul citrus I think you guys have a point so I’m going to ul If you guys have any q tell me Yes, we do have questions: why'd you target me for a roleblock? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2017 17:03:02 GMT
ScorrchingTheaph does have a good point on ForgotToFlush. That verbage, how Toni is "blatantly disgusting", is harsh and insulting without the tangibility of the lynch. Seems like a bus tactic.
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Post by spiderz on Nov 15, 2017 17:13:35 GMT
Citrus I rand targeted plus you didn’t claim anything I was expecting anything
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Post by VigilanteVigoroth on Nov 15, 2017 17:28:59 GMT
you RandBlocked?
What?
Why?
How?
No
Don’t do that
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Nov 15, 2017 17:29:10 GMT
Scorch u fuckass go back and count the votes as they happened.
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Nov 15, 2017 17:29:34 GMT
Full post(s) tonight
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Post by Prodigu on Nov 15, 2017 17:48:55 GMT
spiderz Why did you out yourself without having anything more concrete for citrus being scum other than there wasn't a kill
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Post by spiderz on Nov 15, 2017 18:37:52 GMT
I don’t know what you mean by out myself but I wasnt thinking when I lynched citrus
Also vig vig I didn’t know who to Rb
I claimed because I wanted tell you all why I uled Toni
Also when you say outing myself if you mean outing my self as scum I never said that
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Post by VigilanteVigoroth on Nov 15, 2017 18:49:32 GMT
Also when you say outing myself if you mean outing my self as scum I never said that
Sc.sc.scumslip?
lynch Spiderz
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Post by spiderz on Nov 15, 2017 18:57:47 GMT
First off I don’t know how that’s a scum slip second off if you think rn I’m actually clear cause I’m un cced white bishop
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Post by VigilanteVigoroth on Nov 15, 2017 19:22:13 GMT
who says there is only 1 town white bishop
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Post by epiccreeper9002 on Nov 15, 2017 20:31:05 GMT
Some of those combinations are not possible because I am Rb and Toni is even night watcher I believe First things first, I kinda think this message is a slip. I can't really explain why, I just do. lynch spiderz
I'd like to point out: I read the theme and it says that the SK JOAT actually gets the JOAT abilities of all the other power roles plus one Strongman kill. And the SK can use two actions per night, but Mafia can only use one. (OM probably said this already tbh)
If spiderz is town roleblocker, then the three possibilities for the other two PRs are Mafia RB/Town Cop, Mafia Godfather (basically Goon in this case)/Town JK, and Mafia Godfather (again, effectively a Goon)/Town BP. The Mafia RB/Town Cop combo happens twice (so has a 50% chance, the other two have a 25% chance each). If spiderz is mafia roleblocker, then the four possibilities (all town) are JK/BP, RB/Cop, GS/BP, and Tracker/Cop. So yeah, I'm with ScorrchingTheaph, who suggested hypo. We should also hypo with the other targets, I guess. cop/gunsmith on ftf not guilty, tracker on javelinlover went nowhere, blocked scorrchingtheaph, jailkept prodigu
What's the difference between Cop and GS in this, anyways?
idk what else to say in this post so have some greentext.
>mixed colors
>only 1 nk
>nighttalking to point out that i nighttalked to advertise the Stop Nighttalking Foundation
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Post by epiccreeper9002 on Nov 15, 2017 20:38:41 GMT
Some of those combinations are not possible because I am Rb and Toni is even night watcher I believe First things first, I kinda think this message is a slip. I can't really explain why, I just do. lynch spiderz
I'd like to point out: I read the theme and it says that the SK JOAT actually gets the JOAT abilities of all the other power roles plus one Strongman kill. And the SK can use two actions per night, but Mafia can only use one. (OM probably said this already tbh)
If spiderz is town roleblocker, then the three possibilities for the other two PRs are Mafia RB/Town Cop, Mafia Godfather (basically Goon in this case)/Town JK, and Mafia Godfather (again, effectively a Goon)/Town BP. The Mafia RB/Town Cop combo happens twice (so has a 50% chance, the other two have a 25% chance each). If spiderz is mafia roleblocker, then the four possibilities (all town) are JK/BP, RB/Cop, GS/BP, and Tracker/Cop. So yeah, I'm with ScorrchingTheaph, who suggested hypo. We should also hypo with the other targets, I guess. cop/gunsmith on ftf not guilty, tracker on javelinlover went nowhere, blocked scorrchingtheaph, jailkept prodigu
What's the difference between Cop and GS in this, anyways?
idk what else to say in this post so have some greentext.
>mixed colors
>only 1 nk
>nighttalking to point out that i nighttalked to advertise the Stop Nighttalking Foundation
Oh yeah. Should I actually make the Stop Nighttalking Foundation a thing lol
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Post by epiccreeper9002 on Nov 15, 2017 20:39:16 GMT
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Post by Yellow$¢$Skarmory on Nov 15, 2017 20:40:43 GMT
He said no deleting earlier, not sure if that will change. Working on a reads post rn.
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Post by VigilanteVigoroth on Nov 15, 2017 20:49:48 GMT
OK I HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THAT POST
FIRST YOU SAID IT WAS A SLIP THERE WAS NO SLIP THERE, CLEARLY SHEEPING WHAT I SAID, BUT BADLIER
THEN YOU STATED OBVIOUS STUFF ALREADY STATED
Then you hypo'd and asked a useless question
That post was pure dogshite
lynch epiccreeper
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