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Post by ❗ on Nov 15, 2017 21:14:15 GMT
lynch javelinlover
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Post by Prodigu on Nov 15, 2017 21:23:01 GMT
❗ wanna give any context or nah?
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Post by ❗ on Nov 15, 2017 21:33:20 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2017 22:29:16 GMT
Ok imma claim town bishop white the reason I unlynched toni was because he claimed black and I wanted to know his Pr so I could find scum PR btw I pr claim RB and last night I targeted Citrus freak and there was only one kill Lynch citrusfreak I have a couple things wrong about this post. 1) >unlynched Toni based on colour 2) Why would you unlynch if you wanted to "know his PR"? 3) Yeah, claiming wasn't the great way to go right now, especially with all of the possibilities (Prodigu and Scorrching pointed out some, if not all) that could cause 1 death only. I don’t know what you mean by out myself but I wasnt thinking when I lynched citrus Also vig vig I didn’t know who to Rb I claimed because I wanted tell you all why I uled Toni Also when you say outing myself if you mean outing my self as scum I never said that If you were claiming something like VT, then I wouldn't criticise you as much, but especially as a PR, why would you not think when lynching and/or roleblock based on your reads? Instead of claiming White Bishop, you could've just said you were a White Pawn to explain, rather than out yourself as a PR. First off I don’t know how that’s a scum slip second off if you think rn I’m actually clear cause I’m un cced white bishop As VigVig said, who said there is only 1 town white bishop? And if there was another white bishop, you're expecting them to cc/claim. Forcing PR claim..? Looking at these posts, I don't see a single thing that equals him being town, and nearly every word is scummy to me so; Lynch Spiderz |
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Post by spiderz on Nov 15, 2017 23:28:44 GMT
I assumed that there is 2 white bishops and 2 black because of 2 reasons first off toni claimed black bishop so i assumed 1 black on and 1 white on each side and then in actual chess there are 2 white and 2 black since 2 whites have already been reveled i assumed the rest are black. i see what you mean bye out yourself now and i could see why you think thats scummy but as i said in the earlier post i DIDNT know what it meant. also
Lynch Zorquax
All of what he was doing was just fillering in another languages and now he lynches Jav for no reason? BS, Also Epic creeper what the fuck do you mean "I dont know why but i fee like this is a slip" How the fuck??? U legit said I DONT KNOW,
If you have anymore qs ask me
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Post by Prodigu on Nov 15, 2017 23:48:39 GMT
I assumed that there is 2 white bishops and 2 black because of 2 reasons first off toni claimed black bishop so i assumed 1 black on and 1 white on each side and then in actual chess there are 2 white and 2 black since 2 whites have already been reveled i assumed the rest are black. i see what you mean bye out yourself now and i could see why you think thats scummy but as i said in the earlier post i DIDNT know what it meant. also Lynch Zorquax
All of what he was doing was just fillering in another languages and now he lynches Jav for no reason? BS, Also Epic creeper what the fuck do you mean "I dont know why but i fee like this is a slip" How the fuck??? U legit said I DONT KNOW, If you have anymore qs ask me So what I'm getting from this is A) A poor attempt to try and shift attention to zorquax by lynching him (whom I think we should deal with soon) B) This last part where youre talking about Zor, and Epic you're getting way too I don't want to say aggressive but people might see what I'm getting at I just can't find an appropriately fitting word C) Assuming how stuff works isn't something to do I'm not putting a lynch on yet since I have some uncertainties but I'm not leaning town for spiderz either |
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Post by OM~! on Nov 15, 2017 23:50:20 GMT
Forgot to note this but
There are 16 people alive, so it takes 9 to hammer
Lynchcount coming at 9AM EST tmrw morning
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Post by Javelinlover on Nov 15, 2017 23:59:34 GMT
ScorrchingTheaph: obv scum. likely with Zorquax based on D1 rvs's and how scorrch got off almost instantly, obviously distancing. somehow scorrch still reads quax as null after all of the d1 shitposting, obvious scum buddies. lynched VigVig early in day, obviously trying to force town pr's to claim. asked Champ to claim color, obviously trying to out pr's there. Unlynched Toni after his claim, obv partners with them. Theaph also did not make a follow-up post that day-phase as promised, obviously scum trying to lay low. |
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Post by Javelinlover on Nov 15, 2017 23:59:45 GMT
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Post by Spieky on Nov 16, 2017 0:03:48 GMT
ok a couple things to say here first of all, i promised a Wagon Watch on skarm so here it goes these people held lynches until the dl: no reasoning given. Wow, that was a lot of reading.
Everyone seems to think Citrus is town for whatever the heck they did there. However, keep in mind that they pretty much outed a power role. FoS Citrus
Another thing that came up a few times was my early Toni lynch. That was a m e m e l y n c h (also kind of a hatelynch) because seriously, it's not a game of PS!Mafia without a memelynch. Unlynch Toni
Personally, YellowSkarmory's reaction seemed scummy to me. eww defeatism burn it Lynch YellowSkarmory
That leaves me with my one big point: the colors argument as a whole is a bad idea. Because everyone should know the correct colors: Mafia know their color (White in this case), and know that Town must be Black, and vice versa. Probably the only role that doesn't know the correct colors is the Cereal Killer (inb4 gray).
One last thing: ForgotToFlush I'm still awaiting your answer for why the heck would you want to policy me? Part of me thinks this is going to lead to another lock for being tormented by other users and doing what's right.dumb reasoning but seems more misguided than scummy these people were on skarm but went off before the dl: Ignoring the "slip", Yellow Skarm lynching Toni after I lynched them is fucking ridiculous
Unvote Toni, Vote Yellow Skarm
Stop being a fucking potato voted for a random doublelynch on d1, i'd say that's pretty fair but it's debateable lynch Yellow$¢$Skarmory because he has cash in his name he is trying to bribe us into not lynching him. Such an evil tactic can only be used by scum meme Vote Yellow Skarmory Solid plurshifted and deflect off self :^) simple reasoning, put the meme face so that he's not taken seriously. scummy First off - that wasn't a plurshift, and second off - i stay panicky in all games i play when i'm about to be lynched. And i don't really have a way to confirm myself as town (even though i am). I think the 2 random lynches to start off set off my "panic" mode and i just am trying to stay alive, though i probably will end up being lynched. DL in 2 days for some reason makes it feel "too" short, i don't know why. Anyway, i am a black pawn (which for some reason is town, it seems more like black would fit mafia, also isn't there 8 pawns and 9 townies? whatever. This is filler text that will not make me look good.) HOLY CRAP NEVERMIND SLIIIIIPPPPPHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA VOTE YELLOW SKARMORYfucking citrus from this alone, i'm scumreading bomb moss and cseel, they have the worst reasoning for voting someone who was an easy target yesterday another post coming after this one |
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Nov 16, 2017 0:11:35 GMT
chill out i was shitposting. i mean - oops slipped |
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Post by Javelinlover on Nov 16, 2017 0:13:22 GMT
pls don't shitpost in a readslist, i'm very concerned
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Post by Javelinlover on Nov 16, 2017 0:16:28 GMT
okay so this reaction when radicate lynched vigvig radicate are you brain damaged also I can call rad braindead if I want to he forced his own mason partner to claim by lynching them i'm sold, vig's town. it all matches up with what he claimed and the salt seems real, so i'll be slotting vig as town for now. despite scummy wording and stuff. |
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Post by Javelinlover on Nov 16, 2017 0:30:09 GMT
here's my case on spiderz zzz to lazy to read everything that has happend but imo Toni is filler crazy Lynch Tonitrigger happy. So 6 on toni? Lol didnt expect that pushes on toni, then says it's "unexpected" Huh sigh I really hope this is right Unlynch toni, lynch vig vigNow please there are reasons why I’m doing this don’t question it because if you guys force it I will be extremely bad for town but the color thing I understand it a bit now arguably one of the most implicative quotes in this entire game. "don't question it"? "i really hope this is right" doesn't it seem like there's a little bit of a contrast, even within the quote itself? Smfh look like i should claim i really don't want to but it will save town from being stupid unless i'm mistaken, there was absolutely no reason to claim here. Toni tell me what your power role is yeah. Ok imma claim town bishop white the reason I unlynched toni was because he claimed black and I wanted to know his Pr so I could find scum PR btw I pr claim RB and last night I targeted Citrus freak and there was only one kill there was absolutely no reason to claim here, other than to pre-empt the coming wagon so he could cite it as OMGUS. |
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Post by Javelinlover on Nov 16, 2017 0:30:40 GMT
there's probably more if i want to look for it but i have a chemistry class rn so cy'all
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Post by Spieky on Nov 16, 2017 0:39:04 GMT
2. i'd like to bring something up about citrus freak. not only was his play d1 fucking stupid but it didnt even work. he claims that it 'caught' toni but toni posted these: gonna go ahead a subject myself to the mob and question why black pawn means scum basically this SKARM JUST SLIPPED GUYS BW NOW ...... explain what the slip is and citrus reasoned with this: Unvote Yellow SkarmoryThat was a reaction test! Wa-hoo! Vote Toni, who did not react *at all* when yellow skarmory "slipped" by saying black pawn. Which means Toni's role is not black pawn, which means... but Toni did react... am i insane or is something really weird going on here so what the fuck does this mean? A. citrus is stupid and missed toni's messages but his play randomly ended up getting a scum lynched B. citrus is SK and used this to try to get town bandwagonned, but ended up getting a mafia - unlikely C. citrus bussed his mafia partner 3. spiderz is a town read for me considering his claim because he acted d1 exactly how a scrub town power role would 4. it strikes me as odd that jav's reasoning for her lynch is really simple despite doing overly extensive tryhard shit 5. vigvig would be a scum read for me if he wasn't essentially confirmed mason 6. i respect zorquax's lynch currently reading cseel, bomb moss, and champ as scummy odm, epic, and spiderz as town citrus as |
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Post by Yellow$¢$Skarmory on Nov 16, 2017 1:21:28 GMT
Readslist (note that my explanations are not very good): Bomb Moss - . Hasn't said enough. Need more activity. Champ/Javelin - Town. Overall, the read-back comments on stuff make me think town on this slot. Citrus - Townlean. Reaction test was interesting, and Fenrir's take on it seemed to change my mind about it, but it could be to gain towncred. I think he's town, though. He's controlling a lot of town at least. cseel - . Hasn't said enough for a full read, but the post pointing out Spiderz seemed town-ish. More activity would be helpful. epiccreeper - Null. The first major post was weird. Somewhat scummy from that 1 post, getting off Toni (scum) and onto me when i was getting more town-like. Recent post makes me think more town, but i don't know exactly how i feel about him possibly being scum. Fenrir - Townlean. The readslist post makes me think he's town, but he hasn't done anything since. Need activity from him. ForgotToFlush - Null-scum. Gets on RADicate during RVS, gets off and onto Toni, then when i lynch Toni to stay alive he gets on me (makes sense), pushes me a lot, then gets off me later because i've relaxed, after some time of not really pushing. Then gets on Toni, shifting. Fine with a lynch on them, probably the one i'm most confident about being scum. FFFF/Regifire - . Hasn't said anything. Need activity. ODM - . Hasn't done enough, but what he has done is townlean, but not enough. Activity needed. prodigu - Townlean. Didn't seem that good at first, but late d1 to d2 he's looked town-like. RADicate - flipped Town Mason ScorrchingTheaph - Town. A lot of what he's done has been townlike, and i have a good feeling about him being town. He lynched 3 of the at-the-time scumreads, and he's the one i think i'm most confident about being town (besides me ofc) right now. Spiderz - Null-scum. Jumps on Toni when he arrives, putting a 6th lynch on them, claims that Toni is "conf SK", then randomly gets off and onto vigvig with "Reasons that will be bad for town if he says them", then he says he doesnt want to claim but might have to "to save town from being stupid", then when VigVig claims mason he gets on EC and says he autolynches vigvig if anyone ccs mason, asks for Toni's PR after translating zor's posts, then claims town white bishop (i somewhat believe) and also says that citrus is scum because no kill, then gets off after a bit of being pointed out that some other way could've stopped kill, then says "if you mean by outing myself outing myself as scum i never did that" is a somewhat scummy line (i can see where slip came from that), then pushes zor. He's new, but this is really interesting slot right now. I'd be ok i guess with a lynch on spiderz though i'd prefer not to lose a town PR, but if he is town roleblocker/maf roleblocker then that helps with the other 2 prs anyway. Spieky - Townlean. I like the way he was going with his d2 wallposts. Toni - flipped Mafia Even-Night Watcher VigilanteVigoroth - Town. He was scummy most of d1, but then is now uncc'd mason, and the reaction to RADicate says he's mason partner. YellowSkarmory - Me. Zorquax - . Has said 2 things in english all game: both lynches. Filler-crazy. I don't know what to think about him. Phew, that was a lot of work. Here's my lynch: Lynch ForgotToFlush |
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Post by Bomb Moss on Nov 16, 2017 1:45:45 GMT
This is where Spieky reads back and realizes my vote is on top of Page 2, literally still in RVS.  |
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Post by Javelinlover on Nov 16, 2017 1:49:55 GMT
4. it strikes me as odd that jav's reasoning for her lynch is really simple despite doing overly extensive tryhard shit i'm doing an offend :c shitposting aside, though, you bring up a good point about citrus, which has made me reconsider the issue and i agree with you to some extent. on the spiderz thing, though, he seemed a tad too eager to claim. idk how new he is, but two hours in the mafia room should teach you that claiming a power role isn't a good idea. he seemed to like use it as a shield??? idk lmao i'm mostly on him bc he was on the unlynch toni lynch vig train and he was the one who interacted with toni the most. actually i want to make an interaction counter sometime, will do after my math + english hw |
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Post by Fenrir on Nov 16, 2017 2:08:08 GMT
Mentioned earlier that my computer charger was gone. I did go to the computer lab, although I misread the dl (thought it was 9) and got here an hour late. I still have a lot to read through u.u but I am now here.
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Nov 16, 2017 2:14:40 GMT
Scorch u fuckass go back and count the votes as they happened. i'll reread and check on this. you're not off the hook girl, but i'll unlynch for now unlynch ForgotToFlushSome of those combinations are not possible because I am Rb and Toni is even night watcher I believe First things first, I kinda think this message is a slip. I can't really explain why, I just do. lynch spiderz
I'd like to point out: I read the theme and it says that the SK JOAT actually gets the JOAT abilities of all the other power roles plus one Strongman kill. And the SK can use two actions per night, but Mafia can only use one. (OM probably said this already tbh)
If spiderz is town roleblocker, then the three possibilities for the other two PRs are Mafia RB/Town Cop, Mafia Godfather (basically Goon in this case)/Town JK, and Mafia Godfather (again, effectively a Goon)/Town BP. The Mafia RB/Town Cop combo happens twice (so has a 50% chance, the other two have a 25% chance each). If spiderz is mafia roleblocker, then the four possibilities (all town) are JK/BP, RB/Cop, GS/BP, and Tracker/Cop. So yeah, I'm with ScorrchingTheaph, who suggested hypo. We should also hypo with the other targets, I guess. cop/gunsmith on ftf not guilty, tracker on javelinlover went nowhere, blocked scorrchingtheaph, jailkept prodigu
What's the difference between Cop and GS in this, anyways?
idk what else to say in this post so have some greentext.
>mixed colors >only 1 nk >nighttalking to point out that i nighttalked to advertise the Stop Nighttalking Foundation
Oh yeah. Should I actually make the Stop Nighttalking Foundation a thing lol Not a fan of this post. Along with the reasoning I have posted in my readlist, I think this is a fine lynch. lynch EpicCreeper9002pls don't shitpost in a readslist, i'm very concerned dOn't tell me what tO dO. I'll shitpOst when I want and where I want. Spiderz reeks of bad town. No scum buddies would've given him the get go to randomly claim d2 with such shitty reasoning. I suspect that scum is pushing a PR lynch. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2017 2:37:26 GMT
Spieky is right about my reaction test being an abject failure. I interpreted Toni’s response in completely the wrong way, and it was a total fluke that that got me to pay attention to him. Towards the end of the day, my vote remained on Toni for reasons other than the reaction test, but I would have completely passed Toni by we’re it not for that. I apologize.
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Post by Fenrir on Nov 16, 2017 2:41:34 GMT
Up to page 12. I'm also working on homework, so I'm going to do some of that, then continue. Honestly staying on YS, every other wagon has strong pressure already and I don't view self meta/newness as a valid defense at all. This is a very weak reason for staying on YS. For one, the YS wagon had as much pressure as any other, so it wasn't as if you unvoting would suddenly remove it all. Secondly, there's a strong distinction between the general playstyles of new town and new scum and YS's strongly resonates with that of new town, so why do you think it's invalid? has yellow skarm still not given reads? for the love of God at least omgus or something, do fucking anything YS had given some thoughts of his own by this point for sure, so this looks a lot like you're trying to still going after the easy (and likely town) wagon. (I'm pretty sure his vote on Citrus was even called omgus by someone.) With regards to the post you made with Toni's ISO, 'tis appreciated-what about the YS vote and subsequent unvote? zzz to lazy to read everything that has happend but imo Toni is filler crazy Lynch ToniThis may be the only thing you've done that wasn't a translation of Zor's filler (and that in itself makes you calling someone else out for it hypocritical). Posting in 12 hours, don't sub me like the other shit host fight me irl Wow, that was a lot of reading.
Everyone seems to think Citrus is town for whatever the heck they did there. However, keep in mind that they pretty much outed a power role. FoS Citrus
Another thing that came up a few times was my early Toni lynch. That was a m e m e l y n c h (also kind of a hatelynch) because seriously, it's not a game of PS!Mafia without a memelynch. Unlynch Toni
Personally, YellowSkarmory's reaction seemed scummy to me. eww defeatism burn it Lynch YellowSkarmory
That leaves me with my one big point: the colors argument as a whole is a bad idea. Because everyone should know the correct colors: Mafia know their color (White in this case), and know that Town must be Black, and vice versa. Probably the only role that doesn't know the correct colors is the Cereal Killer (inb4 gray).
One last thing: ForgotToFlush I'm still awaiting your answer for why the heck would you want to policy me? Part of me thinks this is going to lead to another lock for being tormented by other users and doing what's right.While skimming I saw the Vigvig Mason claim, but I'm pretty sure that was after this post. How, then, did you conclude that Citrus outed a power role? That plus the Toni unlynch while completely ignoring the argument against him plus the halfhearted YS lynch puts epiccreeper on my scumdar. Yellow Skarm seems to have relaxed a bit so
Unlynch Yellow Skarm This is also a weak reason for an unlynch. Even if you had just acknowledged "Hey, maybe the others are right about YS being new town" it would have been less suspcious, but this looks like you were feeling pressured to come up with something original. ok fuck you guys talk a lot. First, I like the pl. Citrus AND Spieky? Is this heaven? Second. I think skarmory is town. This is just an observation since he seems to be the target rn. I would lynch someone else. Preferably not Toni as well since he's a useful player when he's town, and it's too early to tell if he's being fillery or not. Preferably one of Spiderz or epiccreeper. Spiderz for the disgustingly scummy plurshift, epiccreeper for being epiccreeper. Lowkey scumread on Champ as well, which I will expand upon when i see more of her posts. lynch spiderzSince Champ subbed out, what was there in their posts before that gave you a scumread on them? First I’m just gonna say this is my first time doing fourm mafia so I don’t really know how it works so I didn’t know some of the rules Second I really don’t get how me lynching Toni was scummy he hasn’t contributed at all (Ik I shouldn’t be talking but) and he doesn’t provide any good reasoning to why he lynched YS Third My opinion on YS: I don’t have any opinions on him, he just seems like he got random lynched by rad and then it just kinda developed but that doesn’t mean she isn’t scum I just have no reads on her rn Fourth Sr is Ec, one of the mafia and Toni as SK You didn't provide any good reasoning for your Toni lynch either .-. ("They have filler" does not qualify as "good.") Having no read on YS when the majority of he discussion has been centered around them is also scummy, imo. If you had to give a read on them one way or the other, what would it be? |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Nov 16, 2017 3:05:44 GMT
The Day one wall post (1/3)
First of all fuck all you hoes
If the quality of this game was any lower I'd have to drag it behind me
Half of you should quit after we're doneFuckasspolicy for what lol?
anyways it looks like this is a flavor game, which is nice. i like chess OM Room if third party isn't checkers i'm going to kill you lynch RADicate Oh, Move Guy Up S2 (wait i have to wait for white to go first)
Anyways Yellow Skarm have you heard of Game Corner?
the bad thing is... there are a lot of power roles iirc so using player meta rn isn't ideal... goshdarnit I don't like being in a game with epic i love you too lynch toniI'm not a fan of Yellowskarmory atm, he's plurshifted off of himself and It seems omgus to me since instead of trying to get votes off of himself he chose to just lynch radicate (the person who did lynch him) that way he wouldn't have plur, he also never stated why he chose to lynch radicate even though it is day 1, it was kind of out of the blue and it seems like it was just too targeted
That aside, it looks like pure self defense. This is not a good look for Yellow Skarm either, but it's pretty clear that Skarm didn't care who he lynched. I doubt Yellow Skarm actually knows what's he doing at this point, or why he's here. All in all, scummy behaviour with no effort to make it better.Shifting plurality is not bad. Shifting plurality is literally an expression of “I don’t want to die right off the bat”, an emotion every single one of us can sympathize with. Furthermore, that was not an OMGUS vote. OMGUS is purely ideological; if a reactionary vote is cast for strategic voting reasons, such as for shifting plurality, then it is not alignment-indicative. It cannot be an OMGUS vote if it was plurshifting. You’re accusing Yellow Skarmory of two incompatible sins, the more likely of which (plurshifting) isn’t even a sin.
Second line does not apply to the situation. I doubt any of us can attach a logical reason to what Yellow Skarm was doing
Third line is absolute bull shit. The two situations are not exclusive in the slightest. Why would you think that they are?Unlynch RADicate, Lynch ToniAt this point i'm just trying to stay alive, and Toni has been filler (pointed out already). This may come off scummy, but i'm somewhat in "Try to stay alive at all costs" mode already. Also, i think i know the reasoning for your lynch on me, but it seems kind of random, almost scummy. First off - that wasn't a plurshift, and second off - i stay panicky in all games i play when i'm about to be lynched. And i don't really have a way to confirm myself as town (even though i am). I think the 2 random lynches to start off set off my "panic" mode and i just am trying to stay alive, though i probably will end up being lynched. DL in 2 days for some reason makes it feel "too" short, i don't know why. Anyway, i am a black pawn (which for some reason is town, it seems more like black would fit mafia, also isn't there 8 pawns and 9 townies? whatever. This is filler text that will not make me look good.) deadline isnt for 2 days. We have acres of time. Your panicky plurshifting indicates you really want to stay alive. AKA Mafia/PR Panicky plurshifting means he doesn't want to die. Because mafia and town PR want to die much less than the typical vanilla town, this is mild evidence that he's town PR or mafia. More likely, this is a personality trait of his, as he's explained. I believe him when he says he's nervous D1, because his posts read legitimately nervous-sounding, even now.
SO this fuckass (Yellow Skarm) can shift lynches all over the place, do as much scummy shit as he wants and you'll still turn around and say "it's just a personality trait"?First off - that wasn't a plurshift, and second off - i stay panicky in all games i play when i'm about to be lynched. And i don't really have a way to confirm myself as town (even though i am). I think the 2 random lynches to start off set off my "panic" mode and i just am trying to stay alive, though i probably will end up being lynched. DL in 2 days for some reason makes it feel "too" short, i don't know why. Anyway, i am a black pawn (which for some reason is town, it seems more like black would fit mafia, also isn't there 8 pawns and 9 townies? whatever. This is filler text that will not make me look good.) HOLY CRAP NEVERMIND SLIIIIIPPPPPHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA VOTE YELLOW SKARMORY
Literally first post on the thread
the fuck r u onAlso, i have a bad feeling about Citrus Freak. Snce they seemed to be the only one to jump on the "black pawn = mafia", maybe they're mafia? Or SK? I'm making too many posts, but this is where my lynch is going right now: Lynch Citrus Freakok i promise this'll be the last post for a while Sorry for the lack of quotes, but mobile still sucks. In response to Vigvig's bit about YS shifting off self, I saw the Zor vote as a random one if anything. Toni is pinging me right now. Bottom of page 3 is a non sequitur comment on meta and how it relates to the presence of PRs, which it doesn't. Below that is a pointless effort to translate Zor's post phrased in a way dedicated to looking helpful. Little else of actual substance, there's a lot of filler as others have said. Vigvig's an interesting slot because while he's definitely making an effort to progress things, it feels insincere. He's going for a lot of surface level "scumtells" that can actually mean multiple things, and I don't like his post on "I'll lynch the next person to try to translate Zor's post" since translating it in itself, while filler, is hardly a scumtell. Meanwhile, his interactions with YS don't read as if he just wants that lynch to go through and doesn't care what YS is. He calls out people on filler and asks a couple of questions, but that's about it. There's hardly any focus on anything but YS and the presence of filler, and he basically just reiterates his point any time YS answers. Have you (or anyone else on the YS wagon) considered not jumping for the low hanging fruit Day 1? @citrus, Bomb Moss is Xnad (not Mob). I'm going to actually go to the computer lab to finish this.
-Yeah but if the low hanging fruit is scummier than me claiming werewolf day one after discarding bloodhound, is it really that bad to go for said fruit? Scummy people are usually scum Frenrir.
-I wouldn't say that VigVig is insincere, more like he's just kinda buzzing around and saying shit but you're like meh I'll just not listen and probably not lose out on anything.ForgotToFlush- Scumlean. I don't like his initial vote on Toni. He doesn't give any commentary on it besides "disgusting" and there's no follow up on it-no explanation or questioning, before he shifts to YS. Comments that YS doesn't look like he knows what he's doing but doesn't seem to consider the possibility of YS being town who doesn't know what he's doing. Both of these votes look like he's just going with whatever lynch he thinks he can successfully push. Toni- Scumlean. Commented on him above, he has a lot of filler and the fake effort involved in translating Zor's post irks me. His reaction to Citrus also feels off (It almost feels like he suddenly switched to defending YS while still wanting that lynch to go through.) Yellow$¢$Skarmory- Light townlean. Most of the reasons people are scumreading him are better explained by his being a nervous new player. The frequent posting in this case, if anything, is a sign of him being more likely to be town (in my experience newer players generally lurk as scum for fear of appearing scummy or slipping). At the very least he's horribly low-hanging fruit, there's scum on his wagon, and he shouldn't be the D1 lynch. Fenrir- Bit off a god's hand? GETTEM!VigilanteVigoroth-Scumlean. Described this pretty well above, he seems content tunneling the low-hanging fruit then did a 180 and similar thing to Toni with "where is the scumslip?" Champ∞1604- Light townlean. I like where they were going with his posing questions to YS and Epic, but they haven't posted since and any way they progress with that line of questioning is likely to be influenced by the reads others have. Champ1604 's own reads would be helpful when they see this.
Citrus Freak-
Townlean. Let's approach the reaction test as if Citrus is scum. He thus knows YS is town (or can at least be reasonably sure, since this is a multiball theme) and assumes that other townies have a similar flavor role to YS. In that case, it makes no sense for him to call out YS on claiming it because, if YS is a VT, he's potentially calling down the wrath of all other VTs in the game. Shortly put, he took a risk that offers little reward if he's scum and he also backed up the claim that it was a reaction test by indicating which reactions he noticed. Removed the names of players with imo too little to form a read on. Based on all of that, I remain of the opinion that the lynch today should be Toni or Vigvig. Toni was, until recently, filler for the most part, which isn't damning evidence and I'd prefer to wait to see more from them in comparison to Vigvig. Unvote: Zorquax
Vote: VigilanteVigoroth
-Again, going for low hanging fruit isn't necessarily a bad thing. At least you made mention of the fact as to why you'd think I'm going after low hanging fruit. Other than that you need to elaborate on that more. It's a shallow statement otherwise
-Right but when half the pl is probably too afraid to question what the fuck Citrus was doing (Spukky himself thought he was gonna get mobbed) then it's safe to say that the risk is not as big as you make it out to be.
Ew I'm inactive as fuck. Gonna pick back up as fast as I can. Honestly staying on YS, every other wagon has strong pressure already and I don't view self meta/newness as a valid defense at all. Citrus Freak solid townread, his plays are town gamesolve and I don't see any hint of underlying intentions. Fenrir also a townlean. Wow, that was a lot of reading.
Everyone seems to think Citrus is town for whatever the heck they did there. However, keep in mind that they pretty much outed a power role. FoS Citrus
Another thing that came up a few times was my early Toni lynch. That was a m e m e l y n c h (also kind of a hatelynch) because seriously, it's not a game of PS!Mafia without a memelynch. Unlynch Toni
Personally, YellowSkarmory's reaction seemed scummy to me. eww defeatism burn it Lynch YellowSkarmory
That leaves me with my one big point: the colors argument as a whole is a bad idea. Because everyone should know the correct colors: Mafia know their color (White in this case), and know that Town must be Black, and vice versa. Probably the only role that doesn't know the correct colors is the Cereal Killer (inb4 gray).
One last thing: ForgotToFlush I'm still awaiting your answer for why the heck would you want to policy me? Part of me thinks this is going to lead to another lock for being tormented by other users and doing what's right.
-The colour argument is a bad idea when people keep perpetuating it. If it's come to the point of looking at fucking flavour claims to find scum then every single one of you partaking in this bullshit needs to step up and explain why you're so fucking useless.
-Ok so it looks like you were semi-sarcastic about your reasoning on Yellow Skarm. Very peculiar, and alludes to my point about the lack of substance issue.
Why the fuck would I not want to policy you???
FUCKING LOOK AT THIS SHIT YOU TOOK THE TIME TO INCLUDE A LINE
THAT PUSHES YOUR ANTI-AUTHORITARIAN AGENDA
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO
GET THE FUCK OVER YOURSELF
In case you haven't realized, if someone annoys me I try to get rid of them. Sometimes it works out better than expected.
Yellow Skarm seems to have relaxed a bit so
Unlynch Yellow Skarm ok fuck you guys talk a lot. First, I like the pl. Citrus AND Spieky? Is this heaven? Second. I think skarmory is town. This is just an observation since he seems to be the target rn. I would lynch someone else. Preferably not Toni as well since he's a useful player when he's town, and it's too early to tell if he's being fillery or not. Preferably one of Spiderz or epiccreeper. Spiderz for the disgustingly scummy plurshift, epiccreeper for being epiccreeper. Lowkey scumread on Champ as well, which I will expand upon when i see more of her posts. lynch spiderz
Your town read on Yellow Skarm comes with attached reasoning that is bollocks. 0/10 don't try again.
"useful player when he's town" LOOOOOOL
Anyways in all seriousness, you think it was too early to tell if Toni was committing the grievous act of repeated filler? Potential mafia partner right here
And to top it off, empty promise and weak counter wagon attempts. Both on wagons that could have gained traction potentially.coming in without talking first and the only thing he does is lynch someone? Smells like mafia The last time I've seen ODM and Citrus was in the same game, they told me I should place them on opposing factions >.> I would prefer getting EpicCreeper over Spiders, the plurshifted didn't feel that off to me compared to Epic's post.
Right so you're just gonna sheep ODM's basic ass, scummy as fuck, ill conceived, entirely lazy reads, AND THEN DEBATE ABOUT WHICH ONE OF THEM IS BETTER.
Did you guys not see my explanation to why I think Toni is basicikly confo SK also now that I think about it, it could be Ec + toni but I still think he might be SK
Unlynch ToniNot worth potentially losing town PR at this point. I’ll find a new target, I’m sure…
I would like you to claim your color. I have a feeling that there's black for town and white for scum (white = move first, scum gets to know a bunch of stuff town doesn't), and that could be wrong, but still 3/5 PRs are scum. i support cseel's point about the outing 2 mafia thing, good reasoning imo
look at this brain dead buddy holy fuckWhy did you feel the need to offer thoughts on such a one-off statement??got 2 very important wallposts saved in bbCode for the next day so look out for thoseeeeeeeee
these are thoughts from pages 1-5. i'm working on 6-12 as you read this. i'll hopefully get a readslist up in time ok then I'll stop fillering  Lynch Zorquaxhe says this and proceeds to disappear?? i think. will elaborate. elaboration: he focuses on the edits. like he's obviously there but he's not contributing. scumlean. I don't think Champ really has it together. What makes you think so? I realize that Champ is attempting to lead town, but I do not think they are doing a great job. Why are you budding them? lynch VigilanteVigoroth smells like an agenda, tbh. maybe i'm reading too far into it, but i don't like this, especially when at that time champ was the only one even trying to do something other than lurk/filler/rvs. yes, i'm champ's sub. no, i'm not biased. I'm not a fan of Yellowskarmory atm, he's plurshifted off of himself and It seems omgus to me since instead of trying to get votes off of himself he chose to just lynch radicate (the person who did lynch him) that way he wouldn't have plur, he also never stated why he chose to lynch radicate even though it is day 1, it was kind of out of the blue and it seems like it was just too targeted "never stated why he chose to lynch radicate" shitty reasoning, at that moment the only thing going on was rvs also plurshifting off self generally isn't scummy, but depends on context Shifting plurality is not bad. Shifting plurality is literally an expression of “I don’t want to die right off the bat”, an emotion every single one of us can sympathize with. Furthermore, that was not an OMGUS vote. OMGUS is purely ideological; if a reactionary vote is cast for strategic voting reasons, such as for shifting plurality, then it is not alignment-indicative. It cannot be an OMGUS vote if it was plurshifting. You’re accusing Yellow Skarmory of two incompatible sins, the more likely of which (plurshifting) isn’t even a sin. bless your soul i agree with this. however, the defense of yellow skarm is sus, will be watching for further developments (in history, at least) if skarm = scum, citrus most likely = scum. doesn't work the other way around though, could just be citrus grabbing towncred for defense of a townie. não você 1. p-please d-don't call me Theraph. i-it's Theaph. 2. Town PR that is not Mason may also want to talk in code. I'm not saying Quax is a PR but I wouldn't be so quick to assume nilla. 3. I think you meant to tag Xnadrojx (aka Bomb Moss) and not Mob Boss. 4. I am assuming that we have noticed the same thing and you are disapprove of my lynch. I point you to FTFlush's 3rd/4th post. if you are not aware, Flush sort of hates creeperboy a lot. If you're just rvsing, ignore this. Let me juxtapose these two posts b lack to back. I honestly don't mind a little shitposting, but don't tell us that you're not going filler and then filler right after. THANK YOU HOLY SHIT i think this is the closest things have come to quality content so far. i like this post. will be on the lookout for more quality content. slight townlean for quality and original content. Unlynch RADicate, Lynch ToniAt this point i'm just trying to stay alive, and Toni has been filler (pointed out already). This may come off scummy, but i'm somewhat in "Try to stay alive at all costs" mode already. Also, i think i know the reasoning for your lynch on me, but it seems kind of random, almost scummy. "this may come off as scummy" hell to the fuck yeah you bet it comes off as scummy. this fucking reeks of PR or scum. haven't decided which yet. will be stated in incoming readslist deadline isnt for 2 days. We have acres of time. Your panicky plurshifting indicates you really want to stay alive. AKA Mafia/PR good post; quality content; seems a tad agenda-ey but i feel it's more content than agenda. First off - that wasn't a plurshift, and second off - i stay panicky in all games i play when i'm about to be lynched. And i don't really have a way to confirm myself as town (even though i am). I think the 2 random lynches to start off set off my "panic" mode and i just am trying to stay alive, though i probably will end up being lynched. DL in 2 days for some reason makes it feel "too" short, i don't know why. Anyway, i am a black pawn (which for some reason is town, it seems more like black would fit mafia, also isn't there 8 pawns and 9 townies? whatever. This is filler text that will not make me look good.) using meta to defend oneself is never a good sign. in addition this attempted reverse psychology is hecka scumpinging me. Panicky plurshifting means he doesn't want to die. Because mafia and town PR want to die much less than the typical vanilla town, this is mild evidence that he's town PR or mafia. More likely, this is a personality trait of his, as he's explained. I believe him when he says he's nervous D1, because his posts read legitimately nervous-sounding, even now. whoosh in comes citrus again with the defense of skarm. seems that citrus is only active when defending skarm, actually. scumlean concurrent with what i stated before. HOLY CRAP NEVERMIND SLIIIIIPPPPPHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA VOTE YELLOW SKARMORYokay nevermind, what the fuck? this seems like too much of a reversal. seems like he's attacking skarm on an easily disputable point so that skarm can get cred by fighting off it?? idk something doesn't ring right here. especially with that one minute time difference. this is honestly the most alignment-indicative post, so please pay attention to thisi'm not going to even quote toni's. it's just "skarm 100% scum". this is filler as fuck to me. Yeah, i know it's over. But hey, at least you'll know Black Pawn = VT now. Unless somehow i got a wrong PM. what is this defeatist bullshit???? it honestly seems like citrus is taking towncred from this reversal and skarm's playing along imo like, so citrus can be like "hey i got scum lynched D1" i'll be waiting for skarm's flip, defo.
-You mention context in your response to Prod. There's no excuse for this bullshit. The reasoning is not weak. We can all see the context of the lynch. Yellow Skarm's intentions were very clear
-Decent analysis of Citrus
-Awful response to VigVig
-Basic ass read to finish offAlright, summary: Fenrir is town for good, sane analysis with no logical warping. YellowSkarmory is town for the claim, and because he was believably town under pressure. VigVig is nullscum for refusing to answer my accusations against him, and for the poor lynch logic. Spider is nullscum for sheeping massively onto Vig's BW and contributing little in the way of tangible content. Says things like "obvscum" without explaining why, does not appear to have any cohrent reads beyond who he's voting at any given time. Toni is nullscum, for bad response, bad claim, bad justification for his bad response, and asking lots of fluff questions without offering any analysis. Also: Toni's wagon died REAL quick once people started voting VigVig, maybe some mafia partner's jettisoned off him? I don't see any way he could have lost so many votes so fast, with him being objectively one of the most scumread people in the game up to that point. I have no determined opinions on anyone else. I'm cool with a lynch on VigVig, spiderz, or Toni; but I would prefer Toni. I retract my previous assertion that Toni is probably SK. More likely mafia, especially with refusing to claim SK after my offer. I don't recall why I thought that he was SK in the first place. I think Scorrching Theaph or someone said it, and I sheeped it for some reason. Vote Toni
-How on earth was Yellow Skarm town under pressure?? You forgetting all of the pressure throughout the day?
-Right so you followed Scorch's thoughts about the Sk but accused Spiderz for the same thing? One big shitfestpage 7 gonna go ahead a subject myself to the mob and question why black pawn means scum this needs to be seen more. why, exactly, did citrus assume that black pawn meant scum?? it all seems very iffy. Also, i have a bad feeling about Citrus Freak. Snce they seemed to be the only one to jump on the "black pawn = mafia", maybe they're mafia? Or SK? I'm making too many posts, but this is where my lynch is going right now: Lynch Citrus Freakok i promise this'll be the last post for a while this is really interesting content. i really want to see this flip, because it kind of does seem like citrus is trying to grab easy towncred. also the "too much information" thing. So people scum-read you because you do scummy things. Then you try to get them off of you by acting scummy. More people scum-read you and now you act even scummier. Like at this point this is fucking pathetic. Now let's talk about your whole self preserve at any costs thing. You've been shifting to any open wagon, indicating that you don't actually have any reads, which is also very annoying. It looks from the start that you never had any clue what you're doing and now you're a deer in the headlights. For me it always ends with the deer getting run over btw. filler content, tbh though i agree, it is advanced filler. Sorry for the lack of quotes, but mobile still sucks. In response to Vigvig's bit about YS shifting off self, I saw the Zor vote as a random one if anything. Toni is pinging me right now. Bottom of page 3 is a non sequitur comment on meta and how it relates to the presence of PRs, which it doesn't. Below that is a pointless effort to translate Zor's post phrased in a way dedicated to looking helpful. Little else of actual substance, there's a lot of filler as others have said. Vigvig's an interesting slot because while he's definitely making an effort to progress things, it feels insincere. He's going for a lot of surface level "scumtells" that can actually mean multiple things, and I don't like his post on "I'll lynch the next person to try to translate Zor's post" since translating it in itself, while filler, is hardly a scumtell. Meanwhile, his interactions with YS don't read as if he just wants that lynch to go through and doesn't care what YS is. He calls out people on filler and asks a couple of questions, but that's about it. There's hardly any focus on anything but YS and the presence of filler, and he basically just reiterates his point any time YS answers. Have you (or anyone else on the YS wagon) considered not jumping for the low hanging fruit Day 1? @citrus, Bomb Moss is Xnad (not Mob). I'm going to actually go to the computer lab to finish this. original, quality content. although i don't necessarily agree, i'm townleaning. Unpopular one, but Citrus' reaction to black pawn struck me as scum, almost as if he knew that was actually town, or knew at least that it would benefit his scum role. Only person really to point that out. Otherwise, i don't have much yet, but i'll read back on the game. And yes, i'm scummy. Being lynched D1 instantly turned into panic mode for me, which turned into me plurshifting off self, which turned into me being scum, which turned into me being even more scummy. and he goes back to defeatism. this emphasis on his own state seems odd for a town member, but i think he might be a townie who is just really scummy, because him being scum makes no sense with citrus's behavior. Unvote Yellow SkarmoryThat was a reaction test! Wa-hoo! Vote Toni, who did not react *at all* when yellow skarmory "slipped" by saying black pawn. Which means Toni's role is not black pawn, which means... okay a motherfucking reaction test?? i don't buy it. hard scum on skarm and citrus. FTF just keeps insulting people. could be third party. The reaction test was to see if people online at the time, particularly Crespo and VigilanteVigoroth would think that my calling out "black pawn!" was or was not a legitimate reason to vote Skarmory. The efficacy of the reaction test relies on my presumption that Skarmory is town. If Skarmory is vanilla town, and his flavor claim is vanilla town, then other vanilla townies also likely have his same flavor. A vanilla town looking at the flavor claim and seeing he claimed their exact same role and flavor would look at me like I'm crazy. However, if someone nods their head and goes along with what I say, accepting there was a slip relating to flavor when there was none, it means their flavor does not coincide with skarmory's. Given that Toni's flavor is confirmed not vanilla town, and his previously lackluster play, what're the chances he's scum? okay, should've posted this in the earlier post. seems like retrospective logic, but the reasoning is pretty sound. again, though, seems like retrospective logic.
filler question
-let's really talk about Yellow Skarm's shitpost then. He says he scum-read Citrus for it because Citrus was alone in the black pawn attack attempt. In addition to being incredibly contrived, this statement shows that Yellow Skarm has no clue what he's saying or how it applies to Citrus. He clearly can't make up his mind as to how he views Citrus' actions other than scum, but his attached reasons do not apply in the slightest. AND YOU CALLED IT INTERESTING LOOOOOOL
-Right so you town read yellow skarm because of citrus' behaviour? What about everyone else who was lynching Skarm then?
-Of course FTF keeps insulting people look at this shit. Little girl, do you want to try and take the high road against me? I'll pull out the 12 year old copy pasta as soon as you fucking try it.
Additional statements that do not fit elsewhere:
-For some reason I thought I posted more on day one than I actually did. I have no clue why. Life comes at you fast.
-This game is absolutely terrible but it's worth sticking through
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Post by Fenrir on Nov 16, 2017 3:06:40 GMT
Remainder of Day 1. Did you guys not see my explanation to why I think Toni is basicikly confo SK also now that I think about it, it could be Ec + toni but I still think he might be SK I saw it, but you basically just said "he's scummy (for filler) and idk who his partner is." That's not an explanation, especially when the SK part is timed such that it looks like you're sheeping Citrus. also whoever was doing that probability bullshit that's a logical fallacy and i slightly scumread you whoever you are Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see a probability thing? Ig u r right cseel if someone ccs mason i will automatically lynch vigvig unlynch VigalanteVigoroth, lynch EpicCreeperI said earlier how i sred him, he is probably mafia goon You are all over the place with your vote and I'm 99% sure you never explained the reason for your Epic sr. Someone used a "puppet of YS" analogy earlier when referring to you, but "puppet of recency bias" feels more accurate, and in this case it's scummy. What are your own thoughts as an individual? got 2 very important wallposts saved in bbCode for the next day so look out for thoseeeeeeeee Protip: Do what I do in anon/here sometimes and send it as a PM to yourself at night; then you can easily quote (make sure to copy out of the BBCode window and not the Preview). quick readslist imo scorch and fen are town skarm citrus ftf are scum for me toni is scum or filler as fuck town Since your Citrus read is based on a scumread on YS, what is Citrus in a scenario where YS is town? I was actually posting translation to help town so we can actually to understand what he is saying also ive only posted 2 filler? Literally anyone can c/p Zor's posts into google translate, you're not helping town by posting your results in the chat. You have way more than two filler posts. |
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