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Post by OM~! on Jul 11, 2018 22:59:52 GMT
Making up an excuse for why he'll play shittily today instead of trying to do shit Oh look he started wow. Unlynch Mechamew2, Lynch Ayia
so, I'm thinking that dasocks is probably chosen and Ayia sees a quick and easy way to get rid of him, jumping @ the chance. Are you actually saying that that first one was an "excuse as to why I'll play shittily"? It was a joke if anything, and shouldn't be taken seriously And Dasocks is an RVS lynch to apply pressure. You think he's chosen? Fine, I'll get off Unlynch Dasocks, Lynch og villainLynching for the shittiest reasoning. Honestly, I could see scum making me Chosen as I'm a pretty easy lynch in a lot of games I didn't get to this before but seriously you tried to visually cue people to sr me by only bolding villain nani the fuck This was just a nitpick, ignore this. Also I want to point out that I don’t like how hard Mecha is trying to defend Ayia Champ, Xnad, and OM seem Null Ftf is obv town lol because of his active contribution and logical points but I don’t necessarily agree with his reads I don’t have any hard scum reads right now so I’m gonna wait a bit He needs to defend ayia HARD to get daisocks lynched and push his scumread(?) on me and him Reading spiderz's point here is what led to this connection Honestly, I could see scum making me Chosen as I'm a pretty easy lynch in a lot of games I think this is a genuine townslip, but please re-read the theme. Whether you are chosen or not is random, unless you are Mafia or they veto you. I don't see Mafia purposely making this mistake with the intention of forcing a townslip. WIFOM is the only counter to this line of reasoning and then again, it's much more likely that town!ayia makes an innocent mistake rather than scum!ayia plays 3D chess to trick us. I re-read the thread with ForgotToFlush and Tbowl filtered out. Daisock's response to two lynches on him really stands out to me. He starts off with the condition that he happens to be chosen (statistically unlikely if he is town) and then through his reasoning ends up with the conclusion that out of the two people lynching him, at least one is clear scum. Another statement, in response to Tbowl: "[having others hop on the RVS, in my opinion, makes it more than just a mere reaction test, I feel. Maybe that's just me]" I'm pretty sure having a wagon on RVS is just pressure and I'm really not a fan of your reaction, particularly your defensiveness and scumreading people for lynching you. Unlynch Tbowl
Lynch DaisocksI don't mind a Tbowl lynch, but I think this is the bigger fish I want to fry right now. I'm seeing Daisocks x og villain as a possible scumteam, but it can't possibly be this easy right? Sidenote: Snaq ◢ ◤ , could you please put "Chosen Mafia" or something along the lines of that in the title of the thread so it is easier to do iso's? could just be me feeling something not there but it's something I'll look into tomorrow |
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Post by qtball on Jul 12, 2018 0:46:09 GMT
I'm ready to call Dasocks + Champ as scum
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jul 12, 2018 1:01:44 GMT
Okie back again
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jul 12, 2018 1:06:16 GMT
Personally, I'm not a very big fan of this. There's this pissed-off tone to this. Perhaps I'm quoting a playstyle difference here - but there's nothing to get pissed off already. He's making a, if not a legitimate, point and you've completely disregarded it by calling your older point a 'joke' (I can't see why you've considered it a joke, you saying 'it'll take me a while to get into forum maf lmao' was't half a lie [though I still agree to OM's point]), and if it was a joke then why are you just joking around and not making actual points? + Being pissed off on OM just because he made a slight assumption, really that wasn't even needed.Summary: Retaliates OM's point by calling his older point a 'joke', whilst it really doesn't seem such, whilst really has a pissed off tone to a slight assumption OM made which, if not obviously, really isn't made on to pressure. Really, if you would've made a point to say that his lynching you whilst not giving a stance on TBz v/s flush, then I would seriously appreciated you and probably would've been having second thoughts about your lynch, but your points seriously seem forced and/or to defend yourself. |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jul 12, 2018 1:07:51 GMT
if this is player meta sure. I don't feel like being so loud and garish, and yesterday's ordeal tired me of this game anyway. I'm just here to try and help at this point but you're still trying to (question Mark) convince me I'm scum? I honestly don't know why you're questioning me there is content to read you either lynch me or don't |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jul 12, 2018 1:09:29 GMT
If I'm going to be pushed like this (as town or scum) then I don't see a point in playing quite honestly. Was just so done with he was hypocritical and plain annoying throughout his whole argument. Can't wait to see his response either. I think the best way to see if flush is town or scum is to see how he reacts to my flip tbh
-You responded the way you did to DAISOCKS mind you, you started dodging long before I got to you. Blaming me here and now is incredibly dodgy. |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jul 12, 2018 1:11:17 GMT
sad I wanted to lynch ayia for the shitty VT claim but this wagon combined with the fact that he does stuff this as as town makes me not want to lynch Dasocks
I mean, I hardly count two lynches as a 'wagon', but w/e Even if it's not I don't like this reaction one bit
Exhibit B
I agree, turbo Dasocks when tbz dies because sheeping them always produces great results, even when they aren't backed by anything. Also... why are you apologizing in advance when you only have a single lynch on you? You're kinda... blowing things out of proportion here. I have 2 lynches, and also I'm pretty sure you know how I pressure. Everytime you've reacted to me thus far (the whopping 2 times) have been over reactions, and I see no reason to get off. also I'm pretty sure I never gave a reason for lynching you so it can be safely assumed it's RBS considering the game started like a few hours ago (more than that now but from when I lynched) |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jul 12, 2018 1:13:14 GMT
As for the thing about me, you did misunderstand, but can't blame you since my lines weren't completely unambiguous. I TR ThunderBallz not but in more of a 'he's policyable', and not an actual TR, if you get what I mean. And I seriously don't like doing this :| |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jul 12, 2018 1:16:49 GMT
What's the difference between now and Day 2 though? If we lynch Daisocks now, we get their flip, and lots of potential reads if he flips scum. Seeing that you scumread og villain, look at the soft buddy with Daisocks. This is a discussion worth having.
Or at least I haven't seen anything from Sock boy that says he'd flip red
Especially with that early push on him |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jul 12, 2018 1:18:03 GMT
I'm ready to call Dasocks + Champ as scum
Hot Take: This a distance attempt |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jul 12, 2018 1:20:58 GMT
I missed a lot rip, honestly Tbowl isn’t trying very hard and I dont see a lot of effort coming from him, it’s like once ftf is pushing him he just gives up after a few post but, I would like to point out the fact that he doesn’t care if he dies and that gives me a towny vibe despite everything I said he’s given up on saving himself but not given up on trying to get dasocks lynched later on in the game <b> unlynch Tbowl </b>
Also nice three line sentence
I missed a lot rip, honestly Tbowl isn’t trying very hard and I dont see a lot of effort coming from him, i t’s like once ftf is pushing him he just gives up after a few post but, I would like to point out the fact that he doesn’t care if he dies and that gives me a towny vibe despite everything I said he’s given up on saving himself but not given up on trying to get dasocks lynched later on in the game <b> unlynch Tbowl </b>
You townread him because he's hard tunneling his RVS read? |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jul 12, 2018 1:22:17 GMT
Oh another hot take: If TBZ is town he's playing like a trash bag on purpose because he doesn't know how to play like a normal person and the sensitive ass kid wants to prove a point. Only argument I'm considering for him to be town. He certainly isn't above something like that.
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jul 12, 2018 1:22:56 GMT
I'm not sure how both me and Dasocks could be scum quite honestly ayia , it's either him or it's not |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jul 12, 2018 1:23:40 GMT
<b>unlynch tbowl</b> Sorry on mobilesquare brackets kid .-.[/font][/font] |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jul 12, 2018 1:23:52 GMT
oh for fucks sake
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jul 12, 2018 1:26:28 GMT
Sorry if you feel like I semi-bashed you, was not the intention but if you want to be annoyed at a lynch, fine: that's your choice. But claiming my reasoning is shitty because you're annoyed at it makes you ignorant, not right. tl:dr No reason to defend from ayia, he's just being offended. |
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Post by ayia on Jul 12, 2018 3:23:08 GMT
1) yes, people were asking me why I claimed VT so i was responding to them 2) yeah i was kinda pissed off hense the pissed off tone. the fact that something that clearly wasn't supposed to be taken seriously was the cause of not only a semi-bash on my playing but also a dumb lynch was slightly annoying 3) did you even read the post RIGHT AFTER that one? it was literally a wall all about the tbz / flush argument. rereading that i guess i didn't state reads, but still if you want reads: flush is town, and there's one or two scum in tbz / dasocks. probably one, and i'm leaning towards dasocks. Bolded parts I feel like you're just being triggered about and not actually using as a scumread on me. Sorry if you feel like I semi-bashed you, was not the intention but if you want to be annoyed at a lynch, fine: that's your choice. But claiming my reasoning is shitty because you're annoyed at it makes you ignorant, not right.tl:dr No reason to defend from ayia, he's just being offended. more to come one sec I'm still confused on what your reasoning was in the first place. I reread the lynch post to see if I could find any good meaning (I admit that the first time I read it I got too easily offended) and I still can't find anything. The only thing I could find was a response to a joke and claiming an RVS lynch was a push on the Chosen Townie. Both of which, I maintain, are very shitty reasons. If you would like to explain how scrutinizing a joke and saying an RVS is a scumpush are good reasons, I'm all ears. |
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Post by MechaMew2 on Jul 12, 2018 4:55:35 GMT
Saying that you know who is the choosen townie day 1, is like saying you knew who got corrupted in Modified Execution day 2. og villain, the fact that you double down on this assumption that Daisocks is chosen makes me think that you are scum who has dig their own grave and can no longer back out.
You also go on to accuse me of being scum with ayia for defending him, but you do not address my points as to why I think he is town.
I'm not sure if I want to shift my lynch as of right now though due to plurality reasons. A votecount would be much appreciated.
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Post by MechaMew2 on Jul 12, 2018 4:58:25 GMT
Also I want to point out that I don’t like how hard Mecha is trying to defend Ayia Why is that? Do you disagree with my reasoning? Do you take issue with a player defending their townread? Please elaborate. |
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Post by MechaMew2 on Jul 12, 2018 5:04:21 GMT
The part I highlighted is a fallacy. There is no statistic likeliness in the first place. His line of thought is easy to follow and is not a wolftell. The issue with his line of thought is that it can apply to anyone lynching anyone. Lynching him over this is shallow.
Your scum team theory at the very least, holds weight. There is some decent distancing going on there. What I take issue with is that og villain is lynching based off of very shaky reasoning. ayia lynching Daisocks is not indicative of scum ayia lynching chosen Daisocks and I have trouble following that line of logic because being able to know this off of so little is really unlikely. |
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Jul 12, 2018 6:35:38 GMT
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Post by Bomb Moss on Jul 12, 2018 8:58:29 GMT
I have townie vibes (posting more later)
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Post by Bomb Moss on Jul 12, 2018 9:05:49 GMT
Gonna vanity phone post to respond to FtF
My PoE is an early game buncha reads, just me throwing out a couple of opinions around. The only strong reads I have and will follow through is OM SCUM and TBZ SCUM.
Yeah we get more interactions and stuff by maybe not hammering before people actually speak? You're not getting my point, I'm trying to say that we should let situations more naturally rather than shut down anything non-TBZ related. We're obviously not going to plurshift off then last minute anyways hopefully...
Posting more later
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Post by Bomb Moss on Jul 12, 2018 9:08:29 GMT
This ain't Town!TBZ, playing like a billion games with Town!TBZ tells me his response here would read more of a "fuck off noob" than the "You're tunneling, follow me once I die, who needs logic" it's reading now.Still don't agree with a turbo, that leaves us with basically nothing to work with D2. The play here is to let Day 1 progress to fuel more hunting D2.Champ's "TBZ ain't scum but he ain't Town" sets me off, I don't remember her as a player to just give people outs like that. No game-progressing material here either, like she always does when she posts her analysis.Daisocks meta tells me he ends up being ass when he isn't being fed answers to the game but I'm not too familiar for now. He's the guy who we just ignore until D2 imo since we get nothing out of lynching them.Lynch OM Room
I agree with what I highlighted in green.
I disagree with what I put in purple. The soft clear potential (based on voting patterns, shade thrown and counterwagons) is very strong with TBZ from a gamesolving POV.
As for the red
I consider it weak to say the least
Also I find your OM lynch misplaced and ill-timed.
It's literally the first 36 hours of a 72 hour game day. I want to have reads to follow up on when TBZ gets lynched, and pressuring with my vote and throwing my other reads around is how I'm going to do it. |
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Post by Bomb Moss on Jul 12, 2018 9:09:15 GMT
At least FtF obvtowned himself here
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