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Post by incognito on Sept 14, 2014 14:22:17 GMT
Oh and vex too probably but the only difference for me is , i haven't really seen vex online on the forums as much as i have seen snaq, so he might just be busy
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Post by rssp1 on Sept 14, 2014 16:44:54 GMT
NO. NO. NO. NO. NO. Did I say it already? I guess I didn't. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. This is NOT server mafia and there is NO guarantee that there is a cop. Nling is bad unless it's mylo, so we should discuss and not no lynch immediately. vote ODMAnyways, good luck to rssp1, and Drookez, my Mafia Goon partners, and of course the rest of the players too. I find rssp1 rather scummy because ajhockeystar said this. Yes, you may say "but he also quoted you", but I know I'm town and ajhockeystar actually proceeds to lynch rssp1 afterwards making me think that there is something going on.
Ajhockeystar is a smart player and we should never count out someone just because "ajhockeystar find him scummy or ajhockeystar lynched him".The only problem with this is that mafia (especially experienced ones) tend to do this with all kinds of player combinations: both town, one town and one mafia, or two mafia. Due to the unpredictability of that, I don't think that drawing conclusions off of anything said like this is valid. Then you bring up that he lynched me, but the thing with that is that it could go either way. People could say, as you are saying, that he was trying to bus me (if I was mafia) and that I am therefore more likely to be mafia. However, you could also bring up that he DIDN'T vote you, which means he could be trying to shift attention onto me and keep it away from you (in the case that you are mafia). However, there is also the case that both of us are town, so I don't want to jump to conclusions. Now, for the last thing you said, did anyone count me out because aj found me scummy/aj lynched me, or are you just saying that for future reference (asking because I don't recall anyone doing the former)? |
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Post by Pobaeto on Sept 14, 2014 18:24:27 GMT
I feel like anything aj does to go against someone on day one can be seen as bussing.
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Post by champetero on Sept 14, 2014 19:24:33 GMT
BadPandaPancham subs for Snaquaza.
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Post by rssp1 on Sept 14, 2014 19:35:04 GMT
BadPandaPancham subs for Snaquaza. You recently posted in Pokemon mafia, hi. you should be here o-o |
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Post by BadPandaPancham on Sept 14, 2014 19:55:08 GMT
BadPandaPancham subs for Snaquaza. You recently posted in Pokemon mafia, hi. you should be here o-o I'm here, takes a while to read 6 pages you know |
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Post by rssp1 on Sept 14, 2014 20:00:19 GMT
You recently posted in Pokemon mafia, hi. you should be here o-o I'm here, takes a while to read 6 pages you know Have you finished reading? |
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Post by BadPandaPancham on Sept 14, 2014 20:00:47 GMT
Well i guess just like regular games day 1 should be reserved for cop claims so NO LYNCHNO. NO. NO. NO. NO. Did I say it already? I guess I didn't. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. This is NOT server mafia and there is NO guarantee that there is a cop. Nling is bad unless it's mylo, so we should discuss and not no lynch immediately. vote ODMAnyways, good luck to rssp1, and Drookez, my Mafia Goon partners, and of course the rest of the players too. If aj was town, I would agree with not lynching day 1, however, lynching ODM as fast as he did in n1 for saying this makes me think this: As it stands right now, ODM doesn't seem like scum. He hasn't done anything to really hurt town, while not acting overly helpful, like a regular new town player would do. |
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Post by BadPandaPancham on Sept 14, 2014 20:01:18 GMT
when I said n1 I meant d1.
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Post by BadPandaPancham on Sept 14, 2014 20:01:39 GMT
I'm here, takes a while to read 6 pages you know Have you finished reading? yea |
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Post by BadPandaPancham on Sept 14, 2014 20:10:46 GMT
I have no reason to suspect ODM.
rssp1 is seeming a little scummy, since he was mentioned by aj who admitted to being mafia day 1.
Obviously, this could be reverse psychology so that if he ever did get lynched/killed, we could assume those were his partners.
Now, I think he played this to set the rest of the game up for his partners even if he died early on in the game.
I think that one of the 2 players he mentioned as his "partners" is actually one of his partners.
He could have done this to completely psych us out, so that if the non-partnered one die, we would count the other one he mentioned as cleared.
So right now for me it's either Drookez or rssp1.
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Post by BadPandaPancham on Sept 14, 2014 20:11:38 GMT
of course, there is the option that I am over thinking this.
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Post by rssp1 on Sept 14, 2014 20:14:59 GMT
It's my personal opinion that we can't really get anything from what aj said due to the possibility of none, one, or both of us being mafia/town.
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Post by incognito on Sept 14, 2014 20:30:16 GMT
Unvote Snaquaza/BPP obviously because he's participating now so i'll wait a bit.
Vote TheVexinator again i just want to see people saying something that can help us instead of just fillering
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Post by BadPandaPancham on Sept 14, 2014 21:01:54 GMT
It's my personal opinion that we can't really get anything from what aj said due to the possibility of none, one, or both of us being mafia/town. That's where you are wrong. We can get information out of it, however, what you are trying to say is we shouldn't act on it just yet because of the small percentage chance we have of getting whatever it is he said that was true/false correct. It is information gathered, just a small scrambled bit that may be unscrambled later on in the game. lynch rssp1that is unless you can persuade me not to |
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Post by rssp1 on Sept 14, 2014 21:20:17 GMT
It's my personal opinion that we can't really get anything from what aj said due to the possibility of none, one, or both of us being mafia/town. That's where you are wrong. We can get information out of it, however, what you are trying to say is we shouldn't act on it just yet because of the small percentage chance we have of getting whatever it is he said that was true/false correct. It is information gathered, just a small scrambled bit that may be unscrambled later on in the game. lynch rssp1that is unless you can persuade me not to Not sure if I didn't say what I attempted to clearly enough, or if I was misinterpreted, but I was saying that we have no idea whether or not Drookez and I are mafia based on what aj said due to the fact that one or both of us could be town. You don't know whether it was bussing or an actual attempt to get Drook and I lynched. Due to that, I don't think its a valid reason to lynch either of us. I also don't think I fully understood your explanation, and I don't think I ever said we shouldn't act on it just yet, I recall saying that we shouldn't use that at all. |
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Post by rssp1 on Sept 14, 2014 21:21:37 GMT
The first part of my response makes no sense whatsoever; ignore that. The second part of my response is essentially my point, something that BPP is pretty much ignoring.
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Post by BadPandaPancham on Sept 14, 2014 21:58:04 GMT
That's where you are wrong. We can get information out of it, however, what you are trying to say is we shouldn't act on it just yet because of the small percentage chance we have of getting whatever it is he said that was true/false correct. It is information gathered, just a small scrambled bit that may be unscrambled later on in the game. lynch rssp1that is unless you can persuade me not to Not sure if I didn't say what I attempted to clearly enough, or if I was misinterpreted, but I was saying that we have no idea whether or not Drookez and I are mafia based on what aj said due to the fact that one or both of us could be town. You don't know whether it was bussing or an actual attempt to get Drook and I lynched. Due to that, I don't think its a valid reason to lynch either of us. I also don't think I fully understood your explanation, and I don't think I ever said we shouldn't act on it just yet, I recall saying that we shouldn't use that at all. "we shouldn't use that at all" That's my problem with what you are saying. Sure, the info may be complete trash and something he said randomly, but we should use it, even if it's tiny because it may expand to a bigger picture later on. Not saying to use it right now when lynching today. |
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Post by rssp1 on Sept 14, 2014 22:06:00 GMT
Not sure if I didn't say what I attempted to clearly enough, or if I was misinterpreted, but I was saying that we have no idea whether or not Drookez and I are mafia based on what aj said due to the fact that one or both of us could be town. You don't know whether it was bussing or an actual attempt to get Drook and I lynched. Due to that, I don't think its a valid reason to lynch either of us. I also don't think I fully understood your explanation, and I don't think I ever said we shouldn't act on it just yet, I recall saying that we shouldn't use that at all. "we shouldn't use that at all" That's my problem with what you are saying. Sure, the info may be complete trash and something he said randomly, but we should use it, even if it's tiny because it may expand to a bigger picture later on. Not saying to use it right now when lynching today. Alright. I still think that it isn't valid information, but to each their own... Also, if you say that you aren't saying to use it right now when lynching today, why did you lynch me and use what aj did (as far as I can see, at least) as your only piece of justification? |
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Post by BadPandaPancham on Sept 14, 2014 23:15:54 GMT
The difference between when aj lynched you and when I lynched you was
1) I was looking for a reaction because
2) You were getting really defensive even though I just mentioned it as a possibility
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Post by rssp1 on Sept 15, 2014 0:17:53 GMT
The difference between when aj lynched you and when I lynched you was 1) I was looking for a reaction because 2) You were getting really defensive even though I just mentioned it as a possibility There's a difference between being defensive and refuting points you don't see as valid. What I was doing was the latter; I was reiterating my points as to why your reasons for lynching didn't make sense to me. I had actually already said my view on the situation before, when Drookez brought up essentially the same thing that you said as your argument.
Saying this is a reaction lynch seems like you're just using a convinient excuse to retract a lynch that you not only defended but also claimed to have good reasoning for.
Also, I never asked for the difference between why you and aj lynched me, I asked why you used aj's lynch as your only piece of justification.
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Post by BadPandaPancham on Sept 15, 2014 1:58:00 GMT
Retract a lynch? Don't put words in my mouth. Did it look like I unlynched you?
No.
Has nothing to do with retracting.
Also, I didn't use aj's lynch. I used something he said way before he lynched you, in the very beginning of d1. Don't conjure faulty information, it won't fare well for you.
Also, you are bringing up Drookez. I didn't see him do the same thing as me, and if he did, then we both agree it could prove as valuable information later. Also you weren't just refuting the point, you were getting very defensive. I just mentioned it, not even in an aggressive way. And you said we shouldn't believe anything aj said, so I lynched you for a reaction since a real town-sided person would be open to discussion on the possibility. And then you started becoming extremely defensive.
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Post by BadPandaPancham on Sept 15, 2014 1:59:39 GMT
Especially since what I said didn't single you out in particular, and could potentially clear you in the future should this information prove valuable. You weren't the only user aj mentioned on that list dude.
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Post by BadPandaPancham on Sept 15, 2014 2:03:26 GMT
Also I kind of just realized that deadline is TOMORROW, meaning that we should get some kind of discussion on possible lynch targets going, and pretty quickly at that given our limited time. I'm up for a macle lynch as I've mentioned in the past. Vex's post where he unlynched me was... Odd, and quite scummy, given his lack of reasoning for his new vote and even that he said "I could tell AJ was joking". I mean he could've said that he was creating a reaction test of his own or something, but that was just plain scummy. I haven't played with or seen Snaq play forum mafia before, but sitting out of RVS and moreso day 1 as a whole is very questionable. I'd even be willing to say that I find it scummy, given that he wants to avoid being suspected early on. I'm not as confident with this though, he'd be my number 3 choice. So yeah, those are my 3 choices from scummiest to least scummy, please share your input quickly given our lack of time. This also could provide us with some valuable information. Oh look, rssp1 and Drookez aren't on this list, as he mentioned them being scum partners (maybe fake-jokingly to avoid suspicion). This post was also near the end when lynch votes would start coming in/ending, so he also could have wrote this seriously, without mentioning any mafia on it. But then again, maybe not. Not accusing, just pointing it out as a "possibility" |
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Post by rssp1 on Sept 15, 2014 2:24:29 GMT
Retract a lynch? Don't put words in my mouth. Did it look like I unlynched you? No. Has nothing to do with retracting. Also, I didn't use aj's lynch. I used something he said way before he lynched you, in the very beginning of d1. Don't conjure faulty information, it won't fare well for you. Also, you are bringing up Drookez. I didn't see him do the same thing as me, and if he did, then we both agree it could prove as valuable information later. Also you weren't just refuting the point, you were getting very defensive. I just mentioned it, not even in an aggressive way. And you said we shouldn't believe anything aj said, so I lynched you for a reaction since a real town-sided person would be open to discussion on the possibility. And then you started becoming extremely defensive. I badly described that. I was trying to say that you are giving a different explanation, or retracting your old reasoning for the lynch. I guess I misunderstood your reasoning for voting me then. I assumed it was because of aj's lynch, but even that post you are referring to falls into the posts I believed weren't very valid evidence. On the topic of Drookez, he had the same idea as what you used for lynching me, and that's what I was referring to. As for refuting/getting defensive, that is also a matter of opinion. We're both seeing it differently, and there's no way I can change that in your view, given that we're both open to confirmation bias and likely won't listen to each other on a subjective matter like that. As for what a "real town-sided person" would do, that makes no sense to me. People have different playstyles in general, and some town may do exactly what I did, while some may do what you have described. In the case you bring up that there are traits that people use as "scummy," that's because those are generally things that scum will do, while reactions can be different for every person. Also, when I said "we can't get anything from what aj said," I was referring to the specific post you were basing your argument off of. It's up to you whether you believe me or not on that one. |
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