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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Jun 10, 2019 18:32:50 GMT
Reads update: TOWN ------ RAD (Fort slot) Nuxl Edje ... Jodram (no posts... and in my top half) SirCloud TBZ Duskfall kotsyt ------ SCUM Actually switch around Edje and Nuxl under the presumption Edje stays around helping from now on. He's had a good day and has had a really good tone and attitude across all points (although few..), with his willingness to contribute, joking around but trying to help push the game forward, especially today when no one else really replied to me. My townread on Nuxl still stands but Edje really feels like town and the nightplays are very logical from scum!Nuxl perspective |
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Post by duskfall on Jun 10, 2019 19:12:56 GMT
As I said, nuxl's towniness is derictly proportional to effort in thread. It's not like I pulled this out of nowhere I have everyone the tell day 1 while he was active and said if he goes inactive he is scum. How you are saying that would be oppurtunistic I've no idea and also don't really care about the game. Nuxl is scum you can lynch him or don't bother, up to you guys I'm not tryharding.
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Jun 10, 2019 20:43:00 GMT
As I said, nuxl's towniness is derictly proportional to effort in thread. It's not like I pulled this out of nowhere I have everyone the tell day 1 while he was active and said if he goes inactive he is scum. How you are saying that would be oppurtunistic I've no idea and also don't really care about the game. Nuxl is scum you can lynch him or don't bother, up to you guys I'm not tryharding. Yes, you have been saying that since day 1, but is that really the entire thing you base your read on him on? I still feel like it's opportunistic as to me it basically says: Active: "Hey you are active, let me buddy you!" Inactive: "Hey you are inactive, let me push you!" Is there anything else to your read? And in general, either why'd he be this active Day 1 as scum if he isn't active as scum / why would you largely townread him day 1 if you know that your read on him depends on a more long-term activity standard? It doesn't make sense to me at all He should probably be subbed out at this point when subs become available, though :\ |
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Post by duskfall on Jun 10, 2019 21:16:54 GMT
This is legit a thing, rad can probably back me up here. He afked 100 percent of scum games at some point for long periods of time, and only done it for town once when there was an irl problem.
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Post by duskfall on Jun 10, 2019 21:17:50 GMT
Also because reads change, and he was towny D1 before he became not towny. I don't have to tunnel whatever reads I give D1. Why are you defending him so hard?
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jun 10, 2019 22:32:25 GMT
Snaq ◢ ◤ (idk if that's how you tag someone) honestly I don't know how to feel about the nuxl lynch. There is the fact that they have been silent for a while, but it could be from them either giving up on town like it seems like almost everyone else has, or they could be busy like I was (which is the reason I didn't speak much d1). And of course there's always the possibility that they are a scum lurker, but that could just be too obvious. For now I'm going to stay parked on kotsyt, and I hope qtball and duskfall will reconsider, at least for today.
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jun 10, 2019 22:32:43 GMT
oh hey I tagged someone correctly, how epic
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Post by qtball on Jun 11, 2019 2:39:13 GMT
Snaq ◢ ◤ (idk if that's how you tag someone) honestly I don't know how to feel about the nuxl lynch. There is the fact that they have been silent for a while, but it could be from them either giving up on town like it seems like almost everyone else has, or they could be busy like I was (which is the reason I didn't speak much d1). And of course there's always the possibility that they are a scum lurker, but that could just be too obvious. For now I'm going to stay parked on kotsyt, and I hope qtball and duskfall will reconsider, at least for today. whats the difference between nuxl and kotsy rn lol |
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Jun 11, 2019 8:17:00 GMT
Also because reads change, and he was towny D1 before he became not towny. I don't have to tunnel whatever reads I give D1. Why are you defending him so hard? You don't have to tunnel the reads, but it definitely seems very one dimensional. But sure let's see what RAD has to say. Regardless, I have stated I believe he's town and I'm quite confident in that. I'm not just going to let you push him especially when he's not around to defend himself. We can't afford his lynch at this point in the game. qtball the difference is that although both seem absent right now, Nuxl has been active throughout day 1 from which you can create good reads on him, while kotsyt only said a few things, avoided saying anything meaningful with that and then just disappeared again. Also the current interactions between the people on the wagons on them make them different even if they're not actually commenting on it themselves. |
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Post by jodram22 on Jun 11, 2019 12:59:19 GMT
I am alive, and while it took me 3 sessions I have read through the entire 37 pages of the game.
Lynch Kingotsy
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Post by jodram22 on Jun 11, 2019 13:04:33 GMT
Very disappointed that we had 2! town who decided that they did not care about our wincon
Questions: What does the IC flip say about the role situation? Who would benefit most from an ayia nk? Meta-question Who would benefit most from us suspecting the answer to the previous question?
Town
FFF (rad)
Lucas
nuxl
dusk
scum
king
edj
sircloud
unsure
tbz
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Post by jodram22 on Jun 11, 2019 13:31:15 GMT
I would very much love if nuxl came back and gave their thoughts on the flips we have had so far |
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Post by jodram22 on Jun 11, 2019 19:11:33 GMT
I sat here waiting for 6 hours and not one person came online.. hoes
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Post by qtball on Jun 11, 2019 19:39:38 GMT
full disclosure after we mislynched Town JK I stopped caring but dw I’m still trying I’ve just been very demotivated lol
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Jun 11, 2019 19:39:43 GMT
Very disappointed that we had 2! town who decided that they did not care about our wincon Questions: What does the IC flip say about the role situation? Who would benefit most from an ayia nk? Meta-question Who would benefit most from us suspecting the answer to the previous question? Town FFF (rad) Lucas nuxl dusk scum king edj sircloud unsure tbz Thanks for coming around jod, I don't think the posts bring much new to the table so I'm still pretty neutral on you but regardless I appreciate that you read up on everything. I know how long it takes from my experience catching up to only 27 pages... What do you mean with "unsure"? For the first question, from Fort's post at start of day 2 it looks like there'd be an OS Vig as the only remaining PR? For Ayia, either Nuxl or scum framing Nuxl. Although Ayia ended up lynching Alex, that was the only other SR they had in one of the posts early in day 2. I don't believe they evolved their reads much at this point or truly pressured people besides Nuxl. I guess I kinda answered the last question already? Scum framing Nuxl would benefit from us suspecting him. This could realistically be most people who are SR to null to him, though, I feel. It's most interesting how TBZ suddenly jumped on the Nuxl wagon today IMO. |
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Post by qtball on Jun 11, 2019 20:32:08 GMT
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Post by qtball on Jun 11, 2019 20:32:46 GMT
I don’t like how you’re focusing me so hard Snaq, “jumped on the nuxl wagon” when he only had 1 lynch? I even explained why I lynched him, your mass posting is just a free way of getting town cred, snaq drops to a scum read now
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Post by duskfall on Jun 11, 2019 20:35:34 GMT
full disclosure after we mislynched Town JK I stopped caring but dw I’m still trying I’ve just been very demotivated lol Same minus the trying part |
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Jun 11, 2019 20:48:19 GMT
I don’t like how you’re focusing me so hard Snaq, “jumped on the nuxl wagon” when he only had 1 lynch? I even explained why I lynched him, your mass posting is just a free way of getting town cred, snaq drops to a scum read now Then why did you suddenly switch to him? All you've said about him that I'm aware of is his disappearance and the town core surviving. I don't believe that you wouldn't have more reasons that this, so what are they? |
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Post by jodram22 on Jun 11, 2019 21:37:15 GMT
Very disappointed that we had 2! town who decided that they did not care about our wincon Questions: What does the IC flip say about the role situation? Who would benefit most from an ayia nk? Meta-question Who would benefit most from us suspecting the answer to the previous question? Town FFF (rad) Lucas nuxl dusk scum king edj sircloud unsure tbz Thanks for coming around jod, I don't think the posts bring much new to the table so I'm still pretty neutral on you but regardless I appreciate that you read up on everything. I know how long it takes from my experience catching up to only 27 pages... What do you mean with "unsure"? For the first question, from Fort's post at start of day 2 it looks like there'd be an OS Vig as the only remaining PR? For Ayia, either Nuxl or scum framing Nuxl. Although Ayia ended up lynching Alex, that was the only other SR they had in one of the posts early in day 2. I don't believe they evolved their reads much at this point or truly pressured people besides Nuxl. I guess I kinda answered the last question already? Scum framing Nuxl would benefit from us suspecting him. This could realistically be most people who are SR to null to him, though, I feel. It's most interesting how TBZ suddenly jumped on the Nuxl wagon today IMO. With unsure I mean... unsure. I thought they were town early in the game with their d1 alex+nuxl/dusk circlejerk but that has started to fade.. Good to know Assuming Nuxl is a frame (and town), who do you see as orchestrating this frame. At this point I am fairly certain that every slot is filled by a somewhat active player so presumably scum worked together to decide on the kill. What members do you think would do this? I am assuming your first answer will be tbz, and im wondering who you think his partners may be based off interactions. |
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Jun 11, 2019 21:44:44 GMT
Thanks for coming around jod, I don't think the posts bring much new to the table so I'm still pretty neutral on you but regardless I appreciate that you read up on everything. I know how long it takes from my experience catching up to only 27 pages... What do you mean with "unsure"? For the first question, from Fort's post at start of day 2 it looks like there'd be an OS Vig as the only remaining PR? For Ayia, either Nuxl or scum framing Nuxl. Although Ayia ended up lynching Alex, that was the only other SR they had in one of the posts early in day 2. I don't believe they evolved their reads much at this point or truly pressured people besides Nuxl. I guess I kinda answered the last question already? Scum framing Nuxl would benefit from us suspecting him. This could realistically be most people who are SR to null to him, though, I feel. It's most interesting how TBZ suddenly jumped on the Nuxl wagon today IMO. With unsure I mean... unsure. I thought they were town early in the game with their d1 alex+nuxl/dusk circlejerk but that has started to fade.. Good to know Assuming Nuxl is a frame (and town), who do you see as orchestrating this frame. At this point I am fairly certain that every slot is filled by a somewhat active player so presumably scum worked together to decide on the kill. What members do you think would do this? I am assuming your first answer will be tbz, and im wondering who you think his partners may be based off interactions. This relates to my previous analysis, but I still feel like the counterwagon is odd. My analysis is honestly still the same as here. I've liked your critical approach to the game so far, but I'd be kidding myself if I didn't think scum could do the same thing at this point so you're staying at the null for now. What did you think of the cuddleszz kill night 1, and the dusk / nuxl interactions throughout the game? |
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Post by qtball on Jun 11, 2019 21:51:23 GMT
I don’t like how you’re focusing me so hard Snaq, “jumped on the nuxl wagon” when he only had 1 lynch? I even explained why I lynched him, your mass posting is just a free way of getting town cred, snaq drops to a scum read now Then why did you suddenly switch to him? All you've said about him that I'm aware of is his disappearance and the town core surviving. I don't believe that you wouldn't have more reasons that this, so what are they? didn’t, you’re fabricating a story of me suddenly switching to nuxl and doing so without reasoning when I’ve stated my suspicion of the town core still being alive on day 3, you’re nitpicking too much at me in particular and it gives me scum pings for targeting |
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Post by jodram22 on Jun 11, 2019 22:01:09 GMT
With unsure I mean... unsure. I thought they were town early in the game with their d1 alex+nuxl/dusk circlejerk but that has started to fade.. Good to know Assuming Nuxl is a frame (and town), who do you see as orchestrating this frame. At this point I am fairly certain that every slot is filled by a somewhat active player so presumably scum worked together to decide on the kill. What members do you think would do this? I am assuming your first answer will be tbz, and im wondering who you think his partners may be based off interactions. This relates to my previous analysis, but I still feel like the counterwagon is odd. My analysis is honestly still the same as here. I've liked your critical approach to the game so far, but I'd be kidding myself if I didn't think scum could do the same thing at this point so you're staying at the null for now. What did you think of the cuddleszz kill night 1, and the dusk / nuxl interactions throughout the game? I was surprised by the cuddleszz being killed and that they flipped scum they had been whiteknighting derp eod and I had figured scum!cuddleszz. As for why they might have been killed, its hard to say ill go read back and look into that. The dusk/nuxl interaction read as tvt d1, I find it hard to believe that 2 scum would openly filler that much on d1, and nuxl died after d1 so there hasnt been much more interaction to go off of |
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Post by jodram22 on Jun 11, 2019 22:14:29 GMT
Just realized i completely forgot sircloud was in the game, add them to the scumpool
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Post by jodram22 on Jun 11, 2019 22:26:21 GMT
going back, cuddleszz entered with an edj lynch and then just whiteknighted derped and his reads until he died
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