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Post by derpeddeath on Jun 1, 2019 17:19:40 GMT
I'll probably rarely reply so bare with me this game.
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Post by derpeddeath on Jun 1, 2019 17:20:14 GMT
Also sr on duskfall for trying to buddy fort.
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Post by duskfall on Jun 1, 2019 17:26:58 GMT
Also sr on duskfall for trying to buddy fort. Where did I do this? |
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Post by ayia on Jun 1, 2019 18:20:49 GMT
Also sr on duskfall for trying to buddy fort. Where did I do this? I also scumread Dusk but more so for putting together a towncore based on two people townreading each other. The towncore was weakly put together and the reasoning isn't valid it all. It seems very buddy-buddy to me though it could be just town being silly. |
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Post by ayia on Jun 1, 2019 18:21:23 GMT
nuxl you townread Dusk, correct? Why?
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Post by derpeddeath on Jun 1, 2019 18:41:14 GMT
Unlynch alexander489
Lynch duskfall
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Post by duskfall on Jun 1, 2019 18:46:38 GMT
Also sr on duskfall for trying to buddy fort. Where did I do this? You never replied |
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Post by duskfall on Jun 1, 2019 19:02:02 GMT
Top sad
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Post by kotsytbussiness20 on Jun 1, 2019 19:11:03 GMT
im here wassup gamers
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 1, 2019 19:17:51 GMT
also forgot to mention thunderballz is town. I also scumread Dusk but more so for putting together a towncore based on two people townreading each other. The towncore was weakly put together and the reasoning isn't valid it all. It seems very buddy-buddy to me though it could be just town being silly. I agree with ayia's dismissal of the reasoning behind that towncore. That was so circlejerky that I don't even know what to say about it. However, that doesn't feel like a scum move to me, because I don't see how it'd be beneficial to dusk's team for them to put together such a shoddily reasoned towncore.
I'll probably rarely reply so bare with me this game. Let's... be active mkay plz? At least to comments directed directly at you? |
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Post by duskfall on Jun 1, 2019 19:19:44 GMT
My towncore is not shoddily reasoned smh
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Post by kotsytbussiness20 on Jun 1, 2019 19:23:19 GMT
ok then
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Post by duskfall on Jun 1, 2019 19:25:54 GMT
Tbz and alex are meant to be good players. This means I can trust their reads as long as they are town. Now if they are both townreading each other, this means that they form a realtionship where, unless they are msplaying, they are the same alignment. Both of them didn't say they "think" or "believe" the other one was town, but made it very clear that they are reasonably sure of each other's alignment being town. As long as their mafia skills back up what they say, that means I will trust what they say and tbz vs alex is therefore not tvs.
This means that it is either tvt or tvs (obviously). However, I am certain it is not svs because if they were on the same scum team, I don't see them coming into the thread and buddying up so much. That leaves us with their interactions being tvt, making both tbz and alex town.
This is true as long as one of them hasn't made a fatal mistake of assuring the game of the other's alignment, without knowing. I do not think this is the case, so I am trusting both these players. They therefore go into my town core.
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Post by duskfall on Jun 1, 2019 19:26:53 GMT
This means that it is either tvt or *svs*
^correction
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Post by nuxl on Jun 1, 2019 19:43:33 GMT
i feel like it's weird people are sring me based on my style/way of posting and not due to my actual content It's an early game reads mechanic. It's more helpful on chatroom mafia since you're unable to analyze messages at a deep level due to how fast the chat moves. Idk why you're worrying about it so much; rarely are these reads turned into lynches. I'm noting how defensive you're being towards it. You've mentioned at 3 different occasions that you don't like it and it's silly, almost to nullify the scumleans on you. I'll put this in context with everything else later, as this could be either town or scum Contradiction is probably towny maybe fort is town this is silly idk why you're waffling your read on fort based on one contradiction it's not defensive. it's me thinking out loud your guys' read on me isnt content related. that or it's a site culture difference |
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Post by nuxl on Jun 1, 2019 19:48:28 GMT
nuxl you townread Dusk, correct? Why? duskfall and i have a psychic connection where we can generally gleam each other's alignment bc we've played with each other so many times. it's a personal meta thing; he's usually more of a pussy as scum and he has specific phrasing/content that's different based on alignment. not fully lock yet on him because he said some things that bugged me(mainly not really mindmelding with me) but honestly he's been playing more mafia and i don't really see his scumgame here as of yet so he definitely has a > Rand chance of being town here my read on him is usually more accurate than his on me but also take note that if one of us were scum here it's probably just easiest for us to townread the other. |
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 1, 2019 19:48:40 GMT
I literally just took a playerlist and gave my gut reads on them. I'll go through and give actual reasoned reads about the game in the morning when its not 2:50 am. I think he's scummy, but I also think I think that because I'm not used to his style. These are all gut reads. goodnight ffs yall talk so much
why is my posting style relevant to "will probably change b/c of how much this dude posts"? in your pov, is my activity related to my alignment here? Finally found the question you were pestering me about. And no, I meant that my read on you is liable to change because you post so much and thus I'll have more information to go off of soon. Since I posted that readslist my read on you has shifted twice already. couldn't sleep so ill make one last pass a third of your content is shitposting and another fourth is just talking to duskfall so yeah this i actually don't get is it a self-meta statment where you make a contradiction yourself while saying contradiction is scummy so im town, trying to subconsciously say you're town? No I'm saying you contradicted yourself Okay, then what makes contradiction towny? Self-contradiction and suspicious 180's sounds like a mistake you'd latch onto for a scumread. Keep in mind that this is forum mafia, not real-time. However I do agree that everyone should've at least said something by now. ayia
cuddleszz
dayan
duskfall
haydenbreen699
ivanthebest
kotsytbussiness20
all have not talked yet. If you're on this list, I suggest saying something so that this thread goes into your participated threads because tbh that is the easiest notification system this forum has. Can I get some clarification here? I don't get how you got from "doc me but not bg" -> "i want people to think i can be an nk option" Could you fill in the logic there please? I'm pretty lost on how you derived that conclusion. Side note: even if I would love to be bodyguard protected, I'm not about to give advice I wouldn't take. I don't believe in bodyguard protecting people early, especially in a mostly vanillager setup like this one. Mafia are more likely to hit a vanillager than they are to hit a PR, so the only reason for a BG to act early on is to defend high-profile players from authhate (fear killing, etc, which is a culture problem in its own right). I'm certainly not a target for fear killing lol, and BG has no idea what I am or if my skills/role is worth their life, so they have no reason to suicide for me. However, docs have no drawbacks to their action (other than a possible mafia watcher), so I'd gladly take that.
by saying you don’t want BG on you you’re suggesting that you could be NKed, so you don’t want them on you, yet you want doc on you when the implication is still that you won’t be NKed? seems pretty lol to me, aka scum drawing town PR aggro while sort of softing? I direct you to my side note about bodyguards in general. Tbz and alex are meant to be good players. This means I can trust their reads as long as they are town. Now if they are both townreading each other, this means that they form a realtionship where, unless they are msplaying, they are the same alignment. Both of them didn't say they "think" or "believe" the other one was town, but made it very clear that they are reasonably sure of each other's alignment being town. As long as their mafia skills back up what they say, that means I will trust what they say and tbz vs alex is therefore not tvs. This means that it is either tvt or tvs (obviously). However, I am certain it is not svs because if they were on the same scum team, I don't see them coming into the thread and buddying up so much. That leaves us with their interactions being tvt, making both tbz and alex town. This is true as long as one of them hasn't made a fatal mistake of assuring the game of the other's alignment, without knowing. I do not think this is the case, so I am trusting both these players. They therefore go into my town core. I would like to remind you that Alex has said very very little of substance so far. What, would you think, is qtball getting his reads from and why are you so eager to sheep that? Honestly why are you so desperate to find people to sheep in the first place?
OK glad to see qtball trs me, that will make this game a lot better for town in the longrun trust me. Anyway, if we could get some prod on the forementioned players, can anyone tally up a vote count so far just like an unofficial one? Alex -> Dayan Nuxl -> Duskfall Fort -> Duskfall Qtball -> Ayia derpeddeath -> Alex Ayia -> Fort Nuxl -x Duskfall -> Fort derpeddeath -x alex -> Duskfall Totals: 2 Fort (ayia, nuxl) 2 Duskfall (fort, derpeddeath) 1 Dayan (alex) 1 Ayia (Qtball)
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Post by ayia on Jun 1, 2019 19:53:41 GMT
Tbz and alex are meant to be good players. This means I can trust their reads as long as they are town. Now if they are both townreading each other, this means that they form a realtionship where, unless they are msplaying, they are the same alignment. Both of them didn't say they "think" or "believe" the other one was town, but made it very clear that they are reasonably sure of each other's alignment being town. As long as their mafia skills back up what they say, that means I will trust what they say and tbz vs alex is therefore not tvs. This means that it is either tvt or tvs (obviously). However, I am certain it is not svs because if they were on the same scum team, I don't see them coming into the thread and buddying up so much. That leaves us with their interactions being tvt, making both tbz and alex town. This is true as long as one of them hasn't made a fatal mistake of assuring the game of the other's alignment, without knowing. I do not think this is the case, so I am trusting both these players. They therefore go into my town core. See, while your reasoning makes sense, your blind faith in these player's ability makes me question your alignment. People make mistakes. Tbz and Alex certainly make mistakes. This early into the game, you should not be willing to put your faith in a cross-town read as it's very easy to get wrong. But I think you know that and you're just defending your towncore to make your reasoning less scummy. Now is about the time where I'd like to see inac's get prodded. It's been, what, 16 hours since launch? |
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Post by nuxl on Jun 1, 2019 19:54:44 GMT
I also scumread Dusk but more so for putting together a towncore based on two people townreading each other. The towncore was weakly put together and the reasoning isn't valid it all. It seems very buddy-buddy to me though it could be just town being silly. honestly tangential here but I've seen this scenario(early towncore) before on another site(bulbagarden) and guys please remember that gut reads do exist. there was also a massive reaction difference to this happening lmao. i actually think his reasonings valid; i basically asked you the question of how long you guys have played with each otehr(tbz and ayia) bc the more you play with each other the more accurate your read gets; thus making it likely that, if town, you notice the power dude is obvtowning or if scum it's easiest to just townread and move on because there's no point in picking a fight with someone who definitely should be eating townreads |
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Post by kotsytbussiness20 on Jun 1, 2019 19:54:55 GMT
**lynch alexander**
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Post by nuxl on Jun 1, 2019 19:55:24 GMT
why is my posting style relevant to "will probably change b/c of how much this dude posts"? in your pov, is my activity related to my alignment here? Finally found the question you were pestering me about. And no, I meant that my read on you is liable to change because you post so much and thus I'll have more information to go off of soon. Since I posted that readslist my read on you has shifted twice already. No I'm saying you contradicted yourself Okay, then what makes contradiction towny? Self-contradiction and suspicious 180's sounds like a mistake you'd latch onto for a scumread. by saying you don’t want BG on you you’re suggesting that you could be NKed, so you don’t want them on you, yet you want doc on you when the implication is still that you won’t be NKed? seems pretty lol to me, aka scum drawing town PR aggro while sort of softing? I direct you to my side note about bodyguards in general. Tbz and alex are meant to be good players. This means I can trust their reads as long as they are town. Now if they are both townreading each other, this means that they form a realtionship where, unless they are msplaying, they are the same alignment. Both of them didn't say they "think" or "believe" the other one was town, but made it very clear that they are reasonably sure of each other's alignment being town. As long as their mafia skills back up what they say, that means I will trust what they say and tbz vs alex is therefore not tvs. This means that it is either tvt or tvs (obviously). However, I am certain it is not svs because if they were on the same scum team, I don't see them coming into the thread and buddying up so much. That leaves us with their interactions being tvt, making both tbz and alex town. This is true as long as one of them hasn't made a fatal mistake of assuring the game of the other's alignment, without knowing. I do not think this is the case, so I am trusting both these players. They therefore go into my town core. I would like to remind you that Alex has said very very little of substance so far. What, would you think, is qtball getting his reads from and why are you so eager to sheep that? Honestly why are you so desperate to find people to sheep in the first place?
OK glad to see qtball trs me, that will make this game a lot better for town in the longrun trust me. Anyway, if we could get some prod on the forementioned players, can anyone tally up a vote count so far just like an unofficial one? Alex -> Dayan Nuxl -> Duskfall Fort -> Duskfall Qtball -> Ayia derpeddeath -> Alex Ayia -> Fort Nuxl -x Duskfall -> Fort derpeddeath -x alex -> Duskfall Totals: 2 Fort (ayia, nuxl) 2 Duskfall (fort, derpeddeath) 1 Dayan (alex) 1 Ayia (Qtball)
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Post by duskfall on Jun 1, 2019 19:55:35 GMT
FFFF contradiction can be towny in some cases if someone shows to blatantly not care about contradicting themselves, such as you did. It is more scummy if they do it by accident.
Reason for this is contradiction is such a universally considered scumtell, that if someone doesn't care about contradicting themselves they aren't demonstrating a level of self awareness that they would probably be displaying as scum. The fact you are willing to do something that could be considered scummy, is usually the sign of either a very very confident scum player, or a reasonably confident town. I am going for the latter here.
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Post by nuxl on Jun 1, 2019 19:56:13 GMT
Also sr on duskfall for trying to buddy fort. isn't he literally voting fort rn |
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 1, 2019 19:58:12 GMT
Oh yeah plurality is on me if that's a mechanic in this game..?
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Post by duskfall on Jun 1, 2019 19:58:55 GMT
Tbz and alex are meant to be good players. This means I can trust their reads as long as they are town. Now if they are both townreading each other, this means that they form a realtionship where, unless they are msplaying, they are the same alignment. Both of them didn't say they "think" or "believe" the other one was town, but made it very clear that they are reasonably sure of each other's alignment being town. As long as their mafia skills back up what they say, that means I will trust what they say and tbz vs alex is therefore not tvs. This means that it is either tvt or tvs (obviously). However, I am certain it is not svs because if they were on the same scum team, I don't see them coming into the thread and buddying up so much. That leaves us with their interactions being tvt, making both tbz and alex town. This is true as long as one of them hasn't made a fatal mistake of assuring the game of the other's alignment, without knowing. I do not think this is the case, so I am trusting both these players. They therefore go into my town core. See, while your reasoning makes sense, your blind faith in these player's ability makes me question your alignment. People make mistakes. Tbz and Alex certainly make mistakes. This early into the game, you should not be willing to put your faith in a cross-town read as it's very easy to get wrong. But I think you know that and you're just defending your towncore to make your reasoning less scummy. Now is about the time where I'd like to see inac's get prodded. It's been, what, 16 hours since launch? If my reasoning makes sense there should be no problem here tbh. Sure people make mistakes, but they seemed very confident as I stated. I am not going off a slight town lean here from these players. I am going off confident reads and assume they are just shite talking and actually know what they are doing. |
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