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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jun 25, 2019 1:54:51 GMT
and ffs what do you not have answered at this point cause im pretty sure I've covered everything as far as questions go ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/58793/threadYou've explained parts of what happened, but I feel as if I am not seeing the whole picture. If you thought I my vote was unironic D4 RVS, why is your response to lynch with me? Lynching the same person that I was lynching puts no pressure on me. If you thought I might have been bussing, why not lynch me and/or bring up the possibility earlier? My lynch on midwife was mainly directed towards ScorrchingTheaph , the intent was that that would be the lynch of the day, unless someone came up with some bs to get around that lynch. And only 1 thing happened that day with the intent of shifting the lynch: [ x] 3) Scor's bus situation that I'd see for the D4 AnimalMidWife is: Start a vote on them to force them to do something, try to help them react in a townie way, plan to shift to someone else. Then he's people follow his lynch and he's cornered cause his partner doesn't show up, thus he can't justify an unlynch.
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Post by Sir Mister on Jun 25, 2019 8:33:27 GMT
and ffs what do you not have answered at this point cause im pretty sure I've covered everything as far as questions go ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/58793/threadYou've explained parts of what happened, but I feel as if I am not seeing the whole picture. If you thought I my vote was unironic D4 RVS, why is your response to lynch with me? Lynching the same person that I was lynching puts no pressure on me. If you thought I might have been bussing, why not lynch me and/or bring up the possibility earlier? My lynch on midwife was mainly directed towards ScorrchingTheaph , the intent was that that would be the lynch of the day, unless someone came up with some bs to get around that lynch. And only 1 thing happened that day with the intent of shifting the lynch: [ x] 3) Scor's bus situation that I'd see for the D4 AnimalMidWife is: Start a vote on them to force them to do something, try to help them react in a townie way, plan to shift to someone else. Then he's people follow his lynch and he's cornered cause his partner doesn't show up, thus he can't justify an unlynch. Why was my response to lynch animal instead of lynching you: I had confidence that there would be exactly 1 new player scum, and 1 of my other SRs. The scumscale of animal/freddy was tipped more in animal's favor, because of Freddy's town reactions to my accusations. And I mean tipped "more" as in, a greater difference in scumminess compared to !vs?. That + the ScorrchingTheaph 's vote on animal seemed baseless, which could have been a bus. These 2 things lead to me lynching animal, along with scor. This seemed like a good way to lynch likely scum, and I saw either you or quax as a partner. So I expected to get a good amount of info from people's reactions from that wagon. During the rest of that day, no one really tried to interfere with the animal wagon, except meower's low-effort attempt to get quax lynched instead. After the animal flip, I did suspect you to have done a bus. Then you gave reasoning, I reconsidered my view on you and realised the main reason for my SR towards towards you, was your comment on the D2 Freddy wagon. Freddy's town flip disabled the posibility of a freddy + scor scumteam (you don't say), but I still had a mental looming feeling of "scor is scummy". I did realise that that wasn't based on much at that point, so I reread on Scor, to see if scor was still scummy. Turns out there really wasn't, and im an idiot. That epiphany was a bit after I lynched quax.
I had a moment of confusion misinterpretting Neo's words, but that didn't end up affecting my eventul reads. Scor, If this situation is STILL not clear, that's on you dude. OK I stand by my read from yesterday, leading to 1 of "!" and "?" being scum, and 1 of Animalmidwife and Freddy being scum.I'm pretty torn between zorquax and scor with neo's TR added in in the mix. Then again, Scor also went for RVs on animalmidwife... on Day 4... Freddy, in his very recent questions to me, has kinda come across as town. So between those 2, I'd rather go for Animal atm. Lynch animalmidwife
I'd also very much like ZestOfLife and meower9lives ' opinions on the freddy-vs-animal and ?-vs-! situation I'm trying to present here.
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Post by Sir Mister on Jun 25, 2019 8:38:44 GMT
This being said... meower9lives 's lylo has been filled with valid defences too, whereas scor has mainly said "you are ignoring me . And Meower is also scum " I also appreciate Meower's hostmeta. I didn't want to mention it myself, because it feels like using recourses that shouldn't be available, but yeah. Do you think Fenrir would share a list of 4 townies, look at it and think "yeah these people are in a mylo"
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Post by Sir Mister on Jun 25, 2019 8:40:20 GMT
So Im losing confindence here in the scum!meower, is what I tried to say in my last post. Not discarded at all though.
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Post by meower9lives on Jun 25, 2019 16:08:12 GMT
Hi.
At this point I am heavily leaned towards ? being scum due to A: Hostmeta, B: Sir Mister would've probably lynched ? by now if he was scum. I'll be back on in a bit, I would appreciate if SM and ? are both around near deadline though.
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Post by Sir Mister on Jun 25, 2019 16:28:47 GMT
Deadline is 10 pm EST, which is 4 am UCT. I'm in my workweek so not gonna be up in the middle of the night, will probably stick around until like 1 am/ 7pm UCT.
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Post by Sir Mister on Jun 25, 2019 19:42:55 GMT
The way things are looking now, Meower seems to be prone to vote Scor, Scor seems to want to vote me. I'm still leaning more towards Meower being mafia atm, but him being able to answer everything confidently in this lylo so far makes me second guess. Voting Meower seems like suicide if Scor is gonna keep calling me scum because he doesn't understand my answers. So as it stands now, I feel like I'm forced to vote Scor. If everyone is sticking with the reads they have mentioned, voting in a triangle is clearly leading to a mafia win. There's no way to win if Scor is town and sticks to thinking im mafia anyway, and if meower is town, I guess that leads to a win. ScorrchingTheaph I'm gonna need you to come and talk soon, as I can't stay longer than a few more hours and I need to make up my mind in that time.
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jun 25, 2019 21:09:15 GMT
This being said... meower9lives 's lylo has been filled with valid defences too, whereas scor has mainly said "you are ignoring me >:(. And Meower is also scum >:( " I've never said "Meower is also scum." I have never scumread meower after D1 antics. Where are you even getting this? If I was scum I could have actually pushed meower seeing as you declared intent to lynch him really early on.
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Post by Sir Mister on Jun 25, 2019 21:16:33 GMT
Define your opinion on Meower here then, in a clear way.
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jun 25, 2019 21:20:43 GMT
Voting Meower seems like suicide if Scor is gonna keep calling me scum because he doesn't understand my answers. I ask for logs of people town reading Freddy and you post a log of Neo saying I (Scorrch) town read Freddy as if it was Neo's read. I ask for proof of C7 softing inspect on Freddy and you provide a quote of C7 saying he trusts Neo with his life. What am I missing here?
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jun 25, 2019 21:26:47 GMT
Define your opinion on Meower here then, in a clear way. There was no chance Gimm1ck parked on scum!meower D1 and they as a scum team fabricated a double bus strategy where he intentionally "slips" which allows meower's "last will" to be about Gimm1ck lynch. The Freddy nightkill also makes more sense coming from someone who saw him as a uni tr and also thought he might have been cleared by cop.
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Post by meower9lives on Jun 25, 2019 21:27:27 GMT
I feel it is necessary to reiterate a few things.
1. Gimm1ck slipped, Gimm1ck admitted he slipped. He said in PS Chat at one point Gimm1ck: My only regret Gimm1ck: Is legit hardslipping in forums If I were scum, why would I tell everyone that Gimm1ck slipped, NOTHING was looking at me not being lynched day 1. If I were scum, all pointing out the slip would've done is made me lose a partner along with myself.
2. Sir Mister was thought dead by the host. The host said 4 people were alive. The host didn't end the game.
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Post by Sir Mister on Jun 25, 2019 21:28:01 GMT
well uhm... I did interpret the quotes in the way that I shared them. I just can't read it seems.
Who shares a list summing up someone else's reads though
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Post by meower9lives on Jun 25, 2019 21:30:00 GMT
Also why would anyone consent to being bussed day 1 based on the point structure, I checked it and if scum is lynched day 1, they either get 1 or 4 points (1 Participation, 3 more if they happen to win).
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Post by meower9lives on Jun 25, 2019 21:30:49 GMT
well uhm... I did interpret the quotes in the way that I shared them. I just can't read it seems. Who shares a list summing up someone else's reads though Are the quotes you are talking about the quotes that Gimm1ck said?
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jun 25, 2019 21:31:41 GMT
Also why would anyone consent to being bussed day 1 based on the point structure, I checked it and if scum is lynched day 1, they either get 1 or 4 points (1 Participation, 3 more if they happen to win). imagine playing for points rather than winning
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Post by Sir Mister on Jun 25, 2019 21:33:05 GMT
Do you guys really care that much about points though? I'd happily donate my points to Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ to contribute towards his Mariah Carrey PS Avatar, if it were possible
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Post by meower9lives on Jun 25, 2019 21:33:23 GMT
SM would you mind reiterating why you sr me.
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Post by Sir Mister on Jun 25, 2019 21:39:40 GMT
well uhm... I did interpret the quotes in the way that I shared them. I just can't read it seems. Who shares a list summing up someone else's reads though Are the quotes you are talking about the quotes that Gimm1ck said? quotes are this [ x] Neo sharing a list of reads, I shared this as Neo's reads (cause it looked like they were -^-), but it was him stating Scor's reads for some reason and this [ x] Neo was saying he thought Freddy was scum, then Meower said he thought Neo could be scum, then C7 said "I trust him with my life", which I took as C7 talking about Freddt instead of Neo.
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Post by Sir Mister on Jun 25, 2019 21:46:58 GMT
SM would you mind reiterating why you sr me. Basically, the game started off with a SR on you. Then other things popped up, why people of (which we know they flipped town) kept SRing you. Most of those people ended up getting killed. I myself put you in a townlock when I subbed in. You have been very friendly and charismatic towards me, and have been giving my reads a lot of credit without questioning me. This comes across as both mafia steering the game in the direction of this lylo that has both you and me in it, and you doing your best to maintain my trust. So you know... what if Mafia and Meower overlap.. If you want more detail, refer to my montrosity post [ x]
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Post by meower9lives on Jun 25, 2019 21:48:09 GMT
Actually I see what you mean. You do know why I tr you so hard right?
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Post by meower9lives on Jun 25, 2019 21:51:53 GMT
I will say I haven't given your reads a lot of credit. I was on animal for the potential points, we were both on ! for the same reason and I was on first, and i've questioned a lot of your reads today.
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Post by meower9lives on Jun 25, 2019 21:55:56 GMT
It still seems like you are ignoring the points I have constantly states.
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Post by meower9lives on Jun 25, 2019 21:57:47 GMT
I have constantly stated*
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Post by meower9lives on Jun 25, 2019 22:00:53 GMT
Lynch ? I stand by this, I have to go and don't think I will be on for the rest of the day. Sir Mister. Remember why I TR you, and what I said about Gimm1ck slipping.
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