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Post by vooper on Aug 20, 2019 2:48:10 GMT
they fit diff scum roles and i think forts scum role is more unique and harder to find so him ig i doont see what tbz is saying half the time on neo and his interactions w me have read pure Let's continue this talk. How do you differentiate here between the different scum roles they fit? Which interactions read pure? I didn't see many between you looking through your ISO. start of day neo subbed in scum roles are generally deep scum and lurky scum if u want a brief answer i think its clear how ani is lurking and fort is in more deep w town.
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Aug 20, 2019 2:54:12 GMT
im completely confused by what you mean by "deep scum" and "deep w town" what even is a scum role?
i'll be honest here I think umbrella also has a good chance to be goo, but I've already said I'm refusing to lynch that today. another possibility is the drookez/? slot, and I'd be willing to hop on that if need be.
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Aug 20, 2019 2:55:12 GMT
qtball let's talk about Vigvig. I want to worldbuild now. At this point I'm not taking the Mafia!ed world into account. Probably doesn't claim vig as third party, so let's assume he's factional scum if he's scum. In this case there should be potential partner reads somewhere to look for. Additionally have to answer the question of who the vig was (not is, they'd cc) if Vigvig isn't. Wasn't ed (he'd've claimed it), leaves Spiderz/Sad. Following so far? So in the world you're building, is goo dead yet?
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Post by Fenrir on Aug 20, 2019 3:01:58 GMT
Let's continue this talk. How do you differentiate here between the different scum roles they fit? Which interactions read pure? I didn't see many between you looking through your ISO. start of day neo subbed in scum roles are generally deep scum and lurky scum if u want a brief answer i think its clear how ani is lurking and fort is in more deep w town. Didn't realize you meant "roles" in that sense. Agree on Ani, I hesitate to call Fort "deep" but follow the train of thought. Also dislike this that I just found from Fort's like in light of his EoD vote movement: Lynches I would be ok with today, in order of "already on this" to "meh fine": vigvig umbrella zeep vooper
neo
Lynches that I think would be randing inactives trying to hit goo, but would get behind if town was leaning that way (again in order)
drookez fenrir everyone else is currently a townread from me (yes, even !; i honestly can't explain why but that slot doesn't feel like scum)
Fort Colorcastle I see no previous grievances not tied to activity level. Searching for my name in your ISO only gives me this for a read: he's just been very not active. He did a few big posts in his "new posting style" at the start, but that's fallen off bigtime due to "sickness" that is oog and can't be confirmed or disproven
At this point I think he actually was just trying to hide scumtells and slide by on a "new style"
possible goo here
-Already commented on the activity argument. -Posting style's irrelevant to alignment; since I don't think I mentioned it yet I've been working on rectifying tone (mine's usually meme level wordy/thread-flooding). -Already addressed "possible goo" comment but to expand I don't like that you felt the need to specify "possible goo." -That's about it unless you want a doctor's note for the sickness.
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Post by vooper on Aug 20, 2019 3:03:06 GMT
im completely confused by what you mean by "deep scum" and "deep w town" what even is a scum role? i'll be honest here I think umbrella also has a good chance to be goo, but I've already said I'm refusing to lynch that today. another possibility is the drookez/? slot, and I'd be willing to hop on that if need be. deep scum as in someone who many town people tr even tho they are scum ur refusal to lynch that slot is rlly annoying and misguided pls reconsider ty
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Aug 20, 2019 3:03:57 GMT
qtball let's talk about Vigvig. I want to worldbuild now. At this point I'm not taking the Mafia!ed world into account. Probably doesn't claim vig as third party, so let's assume he's factional scum if he's scum. In this case there should be potential partner reads somewhere to look for. Additionally have to answer the question of who the vig was (not is, they'd cc) if Vigvig isn't. Wasn't ed (he'd've claimed it), leaves Spiderz/Sad. Following so far? So in the world you're building, is goo dead yet? We've had 3 NT flips. At this point I'm convinced ed was SK. I also think its very likely that one of spiderz/sadnar was the survivor, because a living survivor would've claimed by now. If we think the other of spiderz/sadnar was OSV (imo very likely because I scumread vig), then goo is still alive.
I think vigvig is mafia, but I'm not lynching that today. If we go to tomorrow, I think that's the wagon to push.
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Aug 20, 2019 3:04:50 GMT
im completely confused by what you mean by "deep scum" and "deep w town" what even is a scum role? i'll be honest here I think umbrella also has a good chance to be goo, but I've already said I'm refusing to lynch that today. another possibility is the drookez/? slot, and I'd be willing to hop on that if need be. deep scum as in someone who many town people tr even tho they are scum ur refusal to lynch that slot is rlly annoying and misguided pls reconsider ty there's all of mafia and all of town who need goo gone you don't need my vote on it
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Post by Fenrir on Aug 20, 2019 3:04:50 GMT
qtball let's talk about Vigvig. I want to worldbuild now. At this point I'm not taking the Mafia!ed world into account. Probably doesn't claim vig as third party, so let's assume he's factional scum if he's scum. In this case there should be potential partner reads somewhere to look for. Additionally have to answer the question of who the vig was (not is, they'd cc) if Vigvig isn't. Wasn't ed (he'd've claimed it), leaves Spiderz/Sad. Following so far? So in the world you're building, is goo dead yet? It's a fun half-world because I don't want to start looking for associations in semi-reveal. Reasonably sure SK is dead and that there's a good chance it was Ed. Unsure on the other Not Town flips so far [Spiderz/Sad] but one was Survivor from lack of a cc; so the remaining was either Mafia, Vig, or Goo and I don't see a way to figure out which.
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Aug 20, 2019 3:06:32 GMT
So in the world you're building, is goo dead yet? It's a fun half-world because I don't want to start looking for associations in semi-reveal. Reasonably sure SK is dead and that there's a good chance it was Ed. Unsure on the other Not Town flips so far [Spiderz/Sad] but one was Survivor from lack of a cc; so the remaining was either Mafia, Vig, or Goo and I don't see a way to figure out which. if you analyze vig's posts disregarding the fact that he's uncc'd OSV, and decide he feels like scum, then the remaining death was OSV for lack of cc.
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Post by vooper on Aug 20, 2019 3:09:17 GMT
deep scum as in someone who many town people tr even tho they are scum ur refusal to lynch that slot is rlly annoying and misguided pls reconsider ty there's all of mafia and all of town who need goo gone you don't need my vote on it expect a bigger post later but i hate this mentality its like you want the town credit for pushing goo but just throw random names and then you dont push ur possible scum buddy cause mafia should be doing it anyways
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Post by Fenrir on Aug 20, 2019 3:14:15 GMT
deep scum as in someone who many town people tr even tho they are scum ur refusal to lynch that slot is rlly annoying and misguided pls reconsider ty there's all of mafia and all of town who need goo gone you don't need my vote on it Something about knowing whether all of Mafia's alive. Too many slots alive that shouldn't've survived to today. Starting here .
Vote: Umbrella
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Post by Fenrir on Aug 20, 2019 3:22:59 GMT
It's a fun half-world because I don't want to start looking for associations in semi-reveal. Reasonably sure SK is dead and that there's a good chance it was Ed. Unsure on the other Not Town flips so far [Spiderz/Sad] but one was Survivor from lack of a cc; so the remaining was either Mafia, Vig, or Goo and I don't see a way to figure out which. if you analyze vig's posts disregarding the fact that he's uncc'd OSV, and decide he feels like scum, then the remaining death was OSV for lack of cc. Kind of hate you being right about this though; I just went to read his ISO again and I still dislike it up to the Vig claim.
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Aug 20, 2019 3:36:20 GMT
miscellany: -if fen is scum, he's maf -if vig is scum, he's maf not lynching either today. see no reason to give up townlean on voop--not lynching voop today. -fort continues to make comments that are specifically worded to, discursively, dissociate him from being read as mafia-aligned (namely, his direct addresses & his references to goo!lynch being of common interest) -more feigned confusion, this time directed toward vooper's comments re: "deep scum", "lurker scum"etc. i think what bothers me about this is that there's a trend throughout the game of fort engaging with high-content posts by questioning the vocabulary or claiming confusion, but not actually investing effort into gaining any understanding on his own - Fort Colorcastle you might've said this and if you did & i missed it, my b, but why do you refuse to lynch ani today? esp. considering you also admitted he could be goo -i'm getting tunnely so i want to disengage from that slot for a bit but i do expect answers, and i would appreciate it of others would weigh in w their thoughts there -i need drookez to exist more. if people have opinions on drook being solo as opposed to maf, i'd be interested in hearing them
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Post by ❗ on Aug 20, 2019 3:44:31 GMT
hello all
hello theaph.......
lynch ani
Ty all and good night
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Aug 20, 2019 4:36:34 GMT
miscellany: -if fen is scum, he's maf -if vig is scum, he's maf not lynching either today. see no reason to give up townlean on voop--not lynching voop today. -fort continues to make comments that are specifically worded to, discursively, dissociate him from being read as mafia-aligned (namely, his direct addresses & his references to goo!lynch being of common interest) -more feigned confusion, this time directed toward vooper's comments re: "deep scum", "lurker scum"etc. i think what bothers me about this is that there's a trend throughout the game of fort engaging with high-content posts by questioning the vocabulary or claiming confusion, but not actually investing effort into gaining any understanding on his own - Fort Colorcastle you might've said this and if you did & i missed it, my b, but why do you refuse to lynch ani today? esp. considering you also admitted he could be goo -i'm getting tunnely so i want to disengage from that slot for a bit but i do expect answers, and i would appreciate it of others would weigh in w their thoughts there -i need drookez to exist more. if people have opinions on drook being solo as opposed to maf, i'd be interested in hearing them my ultimatum yesterday was real I'm not actually mafia and I meant that statement
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Aug 20, 2019 4:40:10 GMT
there's all of mafia and all of town who need goo gone you don't need my vote on it Something about knowing whether all of Mafia's alive. [/span][/quote] Something about knowing whether all of Town's alive. at this point you're just cherry picking part of a parallel structure
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Aug 20, 2019 4:41:20 GMT
Is this game worth a full read up? I skimmed a little, and from what I saw, surv didn't claim and is likely dead, leaving us with maf/sk/cult.
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Aug 20, 2019 4:50:27 GMT
Something about knowing whether all of Mafia's alive. [/span][/quote] Something about knowing whether all of Town's alive. at this point you're just cherry picking part of a parallel structure[/quote] but we literally just went over this lmao you are actually grasping for straws. as mentioned in my discussion about "worldbuilding", I think the deaths were OSV, surv, and sk
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Aug 20, 2019 4:51:14 GMT
ew bbcode messing up on mobile
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Aug 20, 2019 5:07:18 GMT
miscellany: -if fen is scum, he's maf -if vig is scum, he's maf not lynching either today. see no reason to give up townlean on voop--not lynching voop today. -fort continues to make comments that are specifically worded to, discursively, dissociate him from being read as mafia-aligned (namely, his direct addresses & his references to goo!lynch being of common interest) -more feigned confusion, this time directed toward vooper's comments re: "deep scum", "lurker scum"etc. i think what bothers me about this is that there's a trend throughout the game of fort engaging with high-content posts by questioning the vocabulary or claiming confusion, but not actually investing effort into gaining any understanding on his own - Fort Colorcastle you might've said this and if you did & i missed it, my b, but why do you refuse to lynch ani today? esp. considering you also admitted he could be goo -i'm getting tunnely so i want to disengage from that slot for a bit but i do expect answers, and i would appreciate it of others would weigh in w their thoughts there -i need drookez to exist more. if people have opinions on drook being solo as opposed to maf, i'd be interested in hearing them ok now that I actually read the paragraph I can respond to it confusion is not feigned. not sure why you insist on reading it as fake. same for the references to mafia. you're overthinking it I'm literally talking to the mafia. if you really think I haven't been engaging with actual content then I suggest you actually read my iso. I think you've just been noticing my questions because I'm the only one asking them. and because I have a lot of posts, so maybe you'll see a post with just a question I notice that you came at me yesterday for activity? I responded but like.... ? are we in the same game?
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Aug 20, 2019 5:15:00 GMT
also for the final point drookez got subbed out for ?, who has been posting
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Aug 20, 2019 8:16:48 GMT
Is this game worth a full read up? I skimmed a little, and from what I saw, surv didn't claim and is likely dead, leaving us with maf/sk/cult. most people atm think ed was sk
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Aug 20, 2019 8:17:44 GMT
-if fen is scum, he's maf Do you have any reasons for this read?
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Aug 20, 2019 11:01:01 GMT
miscellany: -if fen is scum, he's maf -if vig is scum, he's maf not lynching either today. see no reason to give up townlean on voop--not lynching voop today. -fort continues to make comments that are specifically worded to, discursively, dissociate him from being read as mafia-aligned (namely, his direct addresses & his references to goo!lynch being of common interest) -more feigned confusion, this time directed toward vooper's comments re: "deep scum", "lurker scum"etc. i think what bothers me about this is that there's a trend throughout the game of fort engaging with high-content posts by questioning the vocabulary or claiming confusion, but not actually investing effort into gaining any understanding on his own - Fort Colorcastle you might've said this and if you did & i missed it, my b, but why do you refuse to lynch ani today? esp. considering you also admitted he could be goo -i'm getting tunnely so i want to disengage from that slot for a bit but i do expect answers, and i would appreciate it of others would weigh in w their thoughts there -i need drookez to exist more. if people have opinions on drook being solo as opposed to maf, i'd be interested in hearing them ok now that I actually read the paragraph I can respond to it confusion is not feigned. not sure why you insist on reading it as fake. asame for the references to mafia. you're overthinking it I'm literally talking to the mafia. bif you really think I haven't been engaging with actual content then I suggest you actually read my iso. I think you've just been noticing my questions because I'm the only one asking them. and because I have a lot of posts, so maybe you'll see a post with just a question cI notice that you came at me yesterday for activity? I responded but like.... ? are we in the same game? da. Explained literally in the post your responding to. It comes across that way because I don't see you consistently trying to make sense of the things you're confused about. b. I mean you can say I'm overthinking it, and maybe I am, but I don't see the utility of it. It's not like we're talking about persuading folks to claim, or arguing for a certain shot to happen overnight--today's goo lynch is, as you said, necessary for all living players' wincon. I guess I just don't see the point of you making such a visible fuss about that. c. I don't mean to suggest you're never engaging with meaningful post, I'm saying there's a pattern of you asking low-effort questions and moving on. Like, there's a difference between a generative question like this or this, compared to this (context made it extremely apparent that I was waiting on Neo's post, and you didn't so much as touch that) or this (i don't understand a world where you're only commentary on that post is a question that can be answered by googling). I'll fetch more if you need them, but my point is this: I'm not saying it's always the case, I'm saying it's enough of a trend that it's caught my attention. d. Spoke on this yesterday so I'm not sure why it's coming back up--you just happened to make a disappointing post at a time. Activity is actually one of the things I don't fault you for. You didn't really go into it here, but I read back to see if I could better understand your position on Ani. You've said your open to the possibility of him being goo, but that you're not willing to lynch him today because you can't know for sure. That falls a bit flat for me, but if there's more to it please share - like, if there's a chance of him being goo, by your own admission, and if all players need to prioritize a goo lynch today, by your own admission, why is ani off the table entirely?
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Aug 20, 2019 11:02:26 GMT
also for the final point drookez got subbed out for ?, who has been posting do you have any thoughts on the second part of that bullet?
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