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Post by micromorphic on Sept 21, 2019 16:49:29 GMT
oh nvm, ill probably unlynch since i dont have a really good reason to be on UnlynchWho were u lynching? I was lynching abdel
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Post by bluegummybear on Sept 21, 2019 20:33:00 GMT
long post time, sorry I haven't contributed a lot so far First of all, instant townlean on anyone who's called out other people for filler, aka Schia and Fenrir. It's protown, helpful and obviously got some discussion going. Biggest townread right now is AlmostZero. I'm a fan of the questions he has asked so far, he's made some good, aware reads ie: He's created a good mix of trying to figure out the flavor and pressing people for helpful answers, all around proactive. OK. I'm back. I'll follow up with more posts after this. Meanwhile: 1. Schiavetto's FOS on everyone who speculated about flavor is flawed, especially with multiple players suspected. There are both possible town and scum motivations—solving flavor and pretending to contribute—but there's no context in which we can settle on either of the motives. Therefore, it's non-alignment-indicative. Better to say "FOS on everyone." 2. Same goes with abdel "defending" me. 3. Schiavetto, can you explain your read on Cyan Talon (I assume that that isn't RVS)? 4. Gimm1ck, please change the thread title to "Day One." This looks forced, a hard copy of what Fenrir had said right before him and too defensive for an early-game suspicion. And the question to Schia, for me at least, seemed like a low effort way of saying "I'm here and trying to scumhunt", especially as a transition from trying to setupsolve to actually contributing. FoS on Jocus. Formatting on a phone is hard, but let's get into the big stuff. Your initial post that suggested the possibility of Replicants seemed a bit too... emotional, for lack of a better term, at least to me. But once again, I'm taking it as something not worth talking about. On the topic of what was bolded, I'm not saying that my effort up to that point wasn't focused mainly on the setup, because it was. I was saying that I wasn't going to pay too much attention to it once the game develops and there are bigger things I can look through. I can't exactly talk about what doesn't exist - or rather, I couldn't have tried to solve the game using interactions and lines that hadn't existed at that point. If we're talking about Lati, I feel like I feel too little of him. It would be great of him to speak more so I can be more certain of what I think, but let's give him the solid "absolute null" sticker. I don't like how Cyan is beating around the bush here. You're being too passive. Is Schia's remark about Replicants worth pushing or not? Cause you keep saying it's not worth talking about it when you are talking about it and bringing it up. If you thought it was just an early day thing, you shouldn't have brought it up in the first place and rather waited until you have seen similar AI behavior from Schia. Also, no one was talking about Lati, so I do agree with AlmostZero it was a bit odd of you to bring him up. I don't know, it seems like you're grasping at straws to find a legitimate scumread, and being too passive in general. I don't like how bgb keeps capitalizing random letters. They've given random hints about their role, which I personally don't see scum doing at this point in the game, but I didn't like the Toni lynch. It was completely out of the blue (get it?), no reasoning behind it and kinda odd considering Toni said he had a 3 post restriction, you'd wait for him to make the remaining 2 posts first without forming a read. But maybe bgb knows something we don't. I'd really like to see more from zol and micro. Won't even bother with Lati. UnlynchLynch: Cyan Talon[/quote] At the moment I would disagree With your lynch since there an adequate amount of players who have yet to contribute to the recent conversations, Rather then lynching someone who has been contributing, I rather have you pressuring an inactive slot or aiming to kill a slot that may fall under the category: "possible lurking scum". As for your ridiculous Interpretation on my capitalization, You are indeed overthinking. It is just a habit from the mafia room I developed. I'm not sure about the "random hints" about my role, but I will tell you that the interaction with myself and AlmostZero on the matter is just me having a little fun you could say.
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Post by gimm1ck on Sept 21, 2019 20:34:50 GMT
The crew becomes excessively paranoid of each other and what the lack of mission updates from good old Earth implies. 2 Cyan Talon (Schiavetto, Abdel) 2 Jocus (Fenrir, itzlatios220044) 2* edwardzealchemist (ZestofLife, AlmostZero) 1 Toni XY (Bluegummybear) 1 itzlatios220044 (Cyan Talon) 1 No Lynch (edwardzealchemist) Deadline will be September 22 at 6PM EST / 10PM GMT.
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Post by bluegummybear on Sept 21, 2019 20:35:38 GMT
long post time, sorry I haven't contributed a lot so far First of all, instant townlean on anyone who's called out other people for filler, aka Schia and Fenrir. It's protown, helpful and obviously got some discussion going. Biggest townread right now is AlmostZero. I'm a fan of the questions he has asked so far, he's made some good, aware reads ie:He's created a good mix of trying to figure out the flavor and pressing people for helpful answers, all around proactive. OK. I'm back. I'll follow up with more posts after this. Meanwhile: 1. Schiavetto's FOS on everyone who speculated about flavor is flawed, especially with multiple players suspected. There are both possible town and scum motivations—solving flavor and pretending to contribute—but there's no context in which we can settle on either of the motives. Therefore, it's non-alignment-indicative. Better to say "FOS on everyone." 2. Same goes with abdel "defending" me. 3. Schiavetto, can you explain your read on Cyan Talon (I assume that that isn't RVS)? 4. Gimm1ck, please change the thread title to "Day One." This looks forced, a hard copy of what Fenrir had said right before him and too defensive for an early-game suspicion. And the question to Schia, for me at least, seemed like a low effort way of saying "I'm here and trying to scumhunt", especially as a transition from trying to setupsolve to actually contributing. FoS on Jocus. Formatting on a phone is hard, but let's get into the big stuff. Your initial post that suggested the possibility of Replicants seemed a bit too... emotional, for lack of a better term, at least to me. But once again, I'm taking it as something not worth talking about. On the topic of what was bolded, I'm not saying that my effort up to that point wasn't focused mainly on the setup, because it was. I was saying that I wasn't going to pay too much attention to it once the game develops and there are bigger things I can look through. I can't exactly talk about what doesn't exist - or rather, I couldn't have tried to solve the game using interactions and lines that hadn't existed at that point. If we're talking about Lati, I feel like I feel too little of him. It would be great of him to speak more so I can be more certain of what I think, but let's give him the solid "absolute null" sticker. I don't like how Cyan is beating around the bush here. You're being too passive. Is Schia's remark about Replicants worth pushing or not? Cause you keep saying it's not worth talking about it when you are talking about it and bringing it up. If you thought it was just an early day thing, you shouldn't have brought it up in the first place and rather waited until you have seen similar AI behavior from Schia. Also, no one was talking about Lati, so I do agree with AlmostZero it was a bit odd of you to bring him up. I don't know, it seems like you're grasping at straws to find a legitimate scumread, and being too passive in general. I don't like how bgb keeps capitalizing random letters. They've given random hints about their role, which I personally don't see scum doing at this point in the game, but I didn't like the Toni lynch. It was completely out of the blue (get it?), no reasoning behind it and kinda odd considering Toni said he had a 3 post restriction, you'd wait for him to make the remaining 2 posts first without forming a read. But maybe bgb knows something we don't. I'd really like to see more from zol and micro. Won't even bother with Lati. UnlynchLynch: Cyan Talon[/quote] (fixed formating)
At the moment I would disagree With your lynch since there an adequate amount of players who have yet to contribute to the recent conversations, Rather then lynching someone who has been contributing, I rather have you pressuring an inactive slot or aiming to kill a slot that may fall under the category: "possible lurking scum". As for your ridiculous Interpretation on my capitalization, You are indeed overthinking. It is just a habit from the mafia room I developed. I'm not sure about the "random hints" about my role, but I will tell you that the interaction with myself and AlmostZero on the matter is just me having a little fun you could say.
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Post by Jocus on Sept 21, 2019 20:38:44 GMT
I don't understand what BGB is trying to imply by the "overthinking" part. Meanwhile, I have lingering suspicions about the "one key detail." I'm no BGB but I can still say that the "overthinking" part refers to this line: 1. Schiavetto's FOS on everyone who speculated about flavor is flawed, especially with multiple players suspected. There are both possible town and scum motivations—solving flavor and pretending to contribute—but there's no context in which we can settle on either of the motives. Therefore, it's non-alignment-indicative. Better to say "FOS on everyone." I can only assume that the "one key detail" is something related to his role, and it was a pretty dumb move to announce that in public. Either you don't say anything, or you say what you have. You're basically saying "my role is something that says a lot about Jocus!!! But I ain't gonna tell you!!!", and that's really not helpful bluegummybear And as for Jocus.. I asked your opinions on that post, not your confusion.. do you think his post has any scummy nature to it? Why do you think he's giving that read? Is his read justified? That's just a generic BGB read, town or scum, according to his chatroom player-meta.
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Post by Jocus on Sept 21, 2019 20:39:04 GMT
But it's weak anyway.
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Post by bluegummybear on Sept 21, 2019 20:45:45 GMT
I'm no BGB but I can still say that the "overthinking" part refers to this line:I can only assume that the "one key detail" is something related to his role, and it was a pretty dumb move to announce that in public. Either you don't say anything, or you say what you have. You're basically saying "my role is something that says a lot about Jocus!!! But I ain't gonna tell you!!!", and that's really not helpful bluegummybear And as for Jocus.. I asked your opinions on that post, not your confusion.. do you think his post has any scummy nature to it? Why do you think he's giving that read? Is his read justified? That's just a generic BGB read, town or scum, according to his chatroom player-meta. Chatroom player-meta?
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Post by Jocus on Sept 21, 2019 21:21:13 GMT
I know you for habitually townreading me regardless if I am scum or town or if you are scum or town.
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Post by bluegummybear on Sept 21, 2019 21:27:57 GMT
UNLYNCH: CYAN
LYNCH TONY XY Gimm It was quote fail, i never intetendedon lynching cyan
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Post by Jocus on Sept 21, 2019 21:32:59 GMT
Unlynch Toni XY
Unlynching RVS vote. Reads coming out in next few hours.
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Post by Jocus on Sept 21, 2019 21:57:12 GMT
To the accusation against me that I copied Fenrir's post: my first point actually had reasoning and not just the "I don't like" that Fenrir gave with less effort. Besides, I made three other points in that post. A lot of misrepresentation in this game has surrounded me: "copying" Fenrir's post, "disingenuous" rationale reasoning, and abdel "defending" me. And please don't misrepresent this post. I put quotation marks around the parts that other players have said and not me like I have always done.
BTW, "defensive" is not a blanket scumtell, but it has unfortunately been thrown against me. It is a type of overreaction that is signature to scum's avoidance of suspicion.
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Post by Jocus on Sept 21, 2019 22:52:01 GMT
This is the wall of reads. Toni: With only one short post, this read will obviously be null until more info is gathered. (And don't waste one of your posts on a two-liner. Please.) ZOL: btw I'm taking this game super serious ofc This was posted even before the game. I agree. Posts' content isn't very substantial. ZOL isn't dumb or lazy, the two NAI motives that could explain this. Also, edward no rvs? Vote: Edward didn't explain why this was scummy, if it was scummy at all. Plus I'm just a huge advocate against relying on gut reads. Lynch: zolWhich option is better according to you?
(1) Randomly pressure someone or (2) Pressure someone you get a ping from their entrance? So you aren't willing to pressure someone who you think is scum 10/10 makes it seem like ZOL is trying to lead abdel into having good reads, but how is pinging at entrance scummy at all? Thus likely scum motive, although lack of substantial posts, once again, makes this a scum-lean. Edward: He was one of the first players to start by discussing flavor: Overrun makes more sense as to in terms of: (1)to defeat decisively and occupy the positions of. (2) : to invade and occupy or ravage. b : to spread or swarm over : infest. 2a : to run or go beyond or past the plane overran the runway. b : exceed overrun a budget. (Courtesy of marriam webster) If taking in account the last definitation i dont really see how it would make sense in those sentences. Meanwhile, What makes you think that my role is something related to jocus, when I said "one key detail"? I find the way you perceived the post rather interesting, Because you Could be completely right or completely wrong Jocus+bgb unlikely, interactions seems ok(?) and the special emphasis on "Jocus" implies u know something about him. Not necessarily alignment indicative but possible scum v town/anti town(maybe solo scum?) but sure its not scum v scum. is flat-out better analysis than many of the ungrounded, false, non-alignment-indicative "tells" and "reads" that have been pointed out this game. I agree with Nobody has quetioned meh seems kinda sus huh? LYNCH Jocus Gut reads are OP af There is no point discussing these posts as they seems useless. Any further discussion on this waste of time imo. because dumb posts have no need for extensive arguments. No sl or sr d1 yet. Just want to see the lynches atm to determine the general view of majority of players. Gonna read schia long post again. is a very honest and not forced reading of the general state of the game. But ok you know what you just tell me your opinion on cyan talon and i've made it clear that i view them as a town lean, though i'd love a little more input from them Cyan bad town. Seems too concerned about dialogues about him. Discussed setup. Tries to point out a afk or little help player lati without considering others who have done similar things like lati, e.g micro and crabbu. noticeably dubs Cyan bad town, not scum, but we can't be sure why. Townread. crabbu: No posts. No read. Latios: Nobody has quetioned meh seems kinda sus huh? sounds like trying to fake towniness in order to get some townreads by deflecting all arguments about whatever will make him "sus" later on and be TR'd for honesty. No reason for town to do this. Scumread. Schiavetto: For the two misreps (similarity to Fenrir and the rationale thing), read my post above. Schiavetto looks keen to establish himself as a strong contributor, although his questions are suspect. In particular, AlmostZero Aspects of their post kinda pinged me as being similar, almost as if Jocus had been borrowing observations from Fen. Maybe it's just me though (would appreciate some insight from Zest when the nosy betch gets online) Kage Cyan I'm not gonna go back and get intot he whole quotestacking thing as it would take too much time, but I would've liked something with a bit more substance re: Lat, seeing as he was your first lynch of the game, with said lynch being the only generative content from you other than the flavorsolving stuff. What specifically gives you a neutral read on Lat? Gun to your head, which way do you think he's most likely to flip? If you prefer another lynch for today, what went into that decision? etc. etc. etc. This is what I mean when I say your attention seems to be misplaced--you're giving enough to defend yourself/minimally satisfy people pressuring you, but you're not giving anything of substance or making meaningful efforts to get it from others. I don't like it. I'm not going to entertain notions of you not understanding the initial lynch on you because your own follow-up has made it abundantly clear that you do in fact understand it. @ed I'm giving you homework 1) reread the thread 2) in plain language state 3 players you TR and 3 players you SR 3) format it like this: +TR [Name 1]: [reason] +TR [Name 2]: [reason] +TR [Name 3]: [reason] -SR [Name 1]: [reason] -SR [Name 2]: [reason] -SR [Name 3]: [reason] I have something I want to say and I'm not saying it until this happens. the homework part about reads is trying to force reads from a player who already explicitly stated that there was not enough material for strong reads. Plus the large volume of reads requested probably becomes argument/read fodder. Scum-lean. Cyan: Would like to see actual reads from this person other than the cheap null read, questions, and little quips. Holding off on a read analysis till then. BGB: I honestly couldn't find anything alignment-indicative from him. Null. Fenrir: Not enough posts, which are quite short compared to what I've seen previously from him. Again, null. Micro: Fits into same category except with even fewer contributions. Abdel: long post time, sorry I haven't contributed a lot so far First of all, instant townlean on anyone who's called out other people for filler, aka Schia and Fenrir. It's protown, helpful and obviously got some discussion going. Biggest townread right now is AlmostZero. I'm a fan of the questions he has asked so far, he's made some good, aware reads ie: He's created a good mix of trying to figure out the flavor and pressing people for helpful answers, all around proactive. OK. I'm back. I'll follow up with more posts after this. Meanwhile: 1. Schiavetto's FOS on everyone who speculated about flavor is flawed, especially with multiple players suspected. There are both possible town and scum motivations—solving flavor and pretending to contribute—but there's no context in which we can settle on either of the motives. Therefore, it's non-alignment-indicative. Better to say "FOS on everyone." 2. Same goes with abdel "defending" me. 3. Schiavetto, can you explain your read on Cyan Talon (I assume that that isn't RVS)? 4. Gimm1ck, please change the thread title to "Day One." This looks forced, a hard copy of what Fenrir had said right before him and too defensive for an early-game suspicion. And the question to Schia, for me at least, seemed like a low effort way of saying "I'm here and trying to scumhunt", especially as a transition from trying to setupsolve to actually contributing. FoS on Jocus. Formatting on a phone is hard, but let's get into the big stuff. Your initial post that suggested the possibility of Replicants seemed a bit too... emotional, for lack of a better term, at least to me. But once again, I'm taking it as something not worth talking about. On the topic of what was bolded, I'm not saying that my effort up to that point wasn't focused mainly on the setup, because it was. I was saying that I wasn't going to pay too much attention to it once the game develops and there are bigger things I can look through. I can't exactly talk about what doesn't exist - or rather, I couldn't have tried to solve the game using interactions and lines that hadn't existed at that point. If we're talking about Lati, I feel like I feel too little of him. It would be great of him to speak more so I can be more certain of what I think, but let's give him the solid "absolute null" sticker. I don't like how Cyan is beating around the bush here. You're being too passive. Is Schia's remark about Replicants worth pushing or not? Cause you keep saying it's not worth talking about it when you are talking about it and bringing it up. If you thought it was just an early day thing, you shouldn't have brought it up in the first place and rather waited until you have seen similar AI behavior from Schia. Also, no one was talking about Lati, so I do agree with AlmostZero it was a bit odd of you to bring him up. I don't know, it seems like you're grasping at straws to find a legitimate scumread, and being too passive in general. I don't like how bgb keeps capitalizing random letters. They've given random hints about their role, which I personally don't see scum doing at this point in the game, but I didn't like the Toni lynch. It was completely out of the blue (get it?), no reasoning behind it and kinda odd considering Toni said he had a 3 post restriction, you'd wait for him to make the remaining 2 posts first without forming a read. But maybe bgb knows something we don't. I'd really like to see more from zol and micro. Won't even bother with Lati. UnlynchLynch: Cyan Talon[/quote] Instant townlean? A cheap cop-out. Seriously, anyone could do that, especially using a buzzword that can apply to almost anyone nowadays. Townreading for questions isn't the best compared to old-style regular analysis, but I'll take it. He also took part in the Fenrir copying misrep. "I'm here and trying to scumhunt?" Did you pay attention to my first point and prior posts? "I don't like how bgb keeps capitalizing random letters?" LMAO, how is that scummy? Otherwise nothing else to say. AZ: First posts are flavor-solve; really don't see why he isn't suspicious for that like everyone else who partook. But as I said, it's NAI. High activity and number of questions compared to low level of actual reads is apparent but doesn't mean anything yet in Day 1. Again, took part in the Fenrir similarity misrep. Otherwise a strong town contributor; town-lean. I've finished this and just realized how many players I've scum-leaned/scumread. Maybe I can sort through that later, but it's a scumpool and not any sort of predicted scumteam.
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Post by bluegummybear on Sept 22, 2019 0:58:59 GMT
So I have made a Quick Overall synopsis Of my reads(prioritize) This Is just a Draft and Is Still in beta. Some Part of the List I lack to Fully investigate due to the time I have and I also Dont have much sense of a Rubric. I will Hopefully Have this Updated my project as the game Goes on And of course I Can Provide Full analysis On any player If I Have Time To do that Since I won't Have much time tomorrow. But My Reason for this Post To get my "prioritized reads" Out there since I won't have much time tomorrow. Dont worry As the game go one my project will continue to be more accurate and reliable
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Post by Jocus on Sept 22, 2019 1:15:37 GMT
Townreading the biggest town contributors and scumreading everyone else sure is nice.
0 posts isn't necessarily scum. It could be due to real-life factors, laziness, or loss of interest. But Gimm1ck should sub out Crabbu. On that point, scumreading every lurker is also the best read ever.
But yeah, many of the "tells" you cite are non-alignment-indicative.
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Post by bluegummybear on Sept 22, 2019 1:22:50 GMT
Townreading the biggest town contributors and scumreading everyone else sure is nice. 0 posts isn't necessarily scum. It could be due to real-life factors, laziness, or loss of interest. But Gimm1ck should sub out Crabbu. On that point, scumreading every lurker is also the best read ever. But yeah, many of the "tells" you cite are non-alignment-indicative. I named it prioritized reads for a reason, Im not saying what aligment I think they may be. Theres To many Null/ lack of performace For that sort of thing
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Post by Jocus on Sept 22, 2019 2:16:59 GMT
BTW, I just realized I'm not lynching Cyan. I accidentally copied the quote that lynches him. UNLYNCH CYAN
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Post by Jocus on Sept 22, 2019 2:18:47 GMT
To make sure. LYNCH LATIOS
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Post by cyan on Sept 22, 2019 3:36:36 GMT
To the accusation against me that I copied Fenrir's post: my first point actually had reasoning and not just the "I don't like" that Fenrir gave with less effort. Besides, I made three other points in that post. A lot of misrepresentation in this game has surrounded me: "copying" Fenrir's post, "disingenuous" rationale reasoning, and abdel "defending" me. And please don't misrepresent this post. I put quotation marks around the parts that other players have said and not me like I have always done. BTW, "defensive" is not a blanket scumtell, but it has unfortunately been thrown against me. It is a type of overreaction that is signature to scum's avoidance of suspicion. Just a note here to state that I'll be giving Jocus a townlean for this post; this defense is pretty solid and brief, and has a fairly townie tone to it.
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Post by cyan on Sept 22, 2019 3:41:52 GMT
Might as well say what I think of Latios right now:
He's dipping slowly from null to scumlean as this game progresses, due to his lack of content and the odd tone of his "oh no one's questioning me, great" as a first post. Technically a lurk-read, so Edward suggested Crabbu as an alternative, but unlike Latios, Crabbu has not posted a single line, more likely indicative of him being forgetful instead of lurky.
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Post by cyan on Sept 22, 2019 4:13:09 GMT
Actually, screw it. I'm doing an isodive.
Edward: Has been mainly passive throughout the game, placed abstinence without an explanation or any follow-up other than 'to see who agrees or disagrees'. Using NL as a pressure lynch is pretty unconventional, but it would help if you gave a better reason for us to NL or did something like ask us about it.
Fenrir: Not feeling much from this slot; there's not a lot of content from him. Seems like he wants to gamesolve, but isn't doing all that much in regards to it. I'll wait.
Jocus: His defense to the accusations of Abdel defending him and him stealing content off of Fenrir's post is solid enough for me to lean him as town, and he seems to have a very active presence in the thread.
Toni: I feel absolutely nothing from him; there's the one line about his three-post restriction and nothing else. Maybe that's why he's not speaking up, that he's waiting for the DL to come close to put in as big of a response as possible? Until he talks again, there's nothing I can actually do to read him. @bgb please explain why Toni is more scummy than the other options in your priority list
ZOL: Playstyle is generally passive, with no more than a few lines of content in each of his posts. Leaning bad town if not scum, will wait for further input.
Latios: Scumlean for lack of activity and weird entrance.
Abdel: Finding it odd on how he's strictly against gutreads and prefers RVS to lynching based on suspicions, but his rationale on it doesn't show me his alignment in any way. His response to me shows a bit that he's not reading all that well, since I answered his points in my response to AZ. I don't know what to think of him.
Schia: Definitely one of the more powerful presences in the game, but I'm still not feeling like he's town yet all the same. Scumreading those who are looking at flavortext might make some sense here, but the intensity of how he pushed it makes me feel things (maybe because it's aimed at me, but whatever). Jocus pointed out how Schia tried to pry into Edward for reads despite Edward not giving any reads of his own; in my opinion, that part doesn't meant much, since it's quite probable that Schia just wanted to press for reads regardless.
AZ: Townlean. AZ is actively reading into the game and prodding for information, and his posts are far from insubstantial. He looks dedicated and sure of what he's doing.
BGB: Null, I'm still unsure of why he'd hide information and his posts are a little jumbled, but he's definitely putting effort into the game. His priority chart is an intuitive way of looking into his reads, but I'm not sure why Lati should get a score higher than Crabbu.
Crabbu: katakan sesuatu
Micro: Playstyle is generally extremely passive, with no more than a few lines a single statement of content in each of his posts. Leaning null-scum, will wait for further input.
Did I miss anyone?
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Post by bluegummybear on Sept 22, 2019 13:57:17 GMT
Here's Why TonyXY should be lynched He claims to be a role is immensely negative utility. For all, we know he could be lying by claiming an excusable role like "3 post restriction" just to have a reason to be inactive. For being the Negative utility that he claims to be there should be no reason to make a post by the end of the deadline where half the people probably won't be able to see it. This is the safest option because if there any time to get rid of this neg utility Its Day 1. Don't want to sound harsh But for being the Neg he is, I don't sense any town motives from him so there really isn't any reason to keep him alive. I Will Keep Pushing For this Slot until He does something useful to the town. Attachments:
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Post by cyan on Sept 22, 2019 14:50:18 GMT
Here's Why TonyXY should be lynched He claims to be a role is immensely negative utility. For all, we know he could be lying by claiming an excusable role like "3 post restriction" just to have a reason to be inactive. For being the Negative utility that he claims to be there should be no reason to make a post by the end of the deadline where half the people probably won't be able to see it. This is the safest option because if there any time to get rid of this neg utility Its Day 1. Don't want to sound harsh But for being the Neg he is, I don't sense any town motives from him so there really isn't any reason to keep him alive. I Will Keep Pushing For this Slot until He does something useful to the town. To be frank, I'd think that if he truly did want to just lurk, he would have put in two minutes of lazy filler content every now and then or bring up the excuse of "I'm busy rn, don't @ me" to avoid attention. For all we know, he could actually be telling the truth, and the reason he's not keen on speaking to us is because of his restriction. If he doesn't speak by the time the deadline is reached, then we can question him, but for now this push should be kept until later. If he doesn't want to respond right now to save his last two lines, you can't force him. You can point out the possibility that his neg-util role is fake, but until there's evidence to show it in some way, you can't say outright that he is lying.
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Post by bluegummybear on Sept 22, 2019 15:14:12 GMT
BGB: Null, I'm still unsure of why he'd hide information and his posts are a little jumbled, but he's definitely putting effort into the game. His priority chart is an intuitive way of looking into his reads, but I'm not sure why Lati should get a score higher than Crabbu. Did I miss anyone? Lati dosent have a higher score then crabbu.
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Post by bluegummybear on Sept 22, 2019 15:15:57 GMT
I'm no BGB but I can still say that the "overthinking" part refers to this line:I can only assume that the "one key detail" is something related to his role, and it was a pretty dumb move to announce that in public. Either you don't say anything, or you say what you have. You're basically saying "my role is something that says a lot about Jocus!!! But I ain't gonna tell you!!!", and that's really not helpful bluegummybear And as for Jocus.. I asked your opinions on that post, not your confusion.. do you think his post has any scummy nature to it? Why do you think he's giving that read? Is his read justified? That's just a generic BGB read, town or scum, according to his chatroom player-meta. I agree, I didnt go much into the details, just wanted to gather some insight. Just to clear that up
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Post by micromorphic on Sept 22, 2019 15:59:13 GMT
Lynch: Crabbu
This needs lynches imo, 50 bucks he's going to come in d2 and say "oh we started" or something similar
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