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Post by AlmostZero on Sept 21, 2019 14:43:32 GMT
I don't see why a town would be hiding something not role related. You could reveal a scum if you had the correct details. But you aren't. It's painfully obvious, honestly jeez. And you have something with your role forcing you to use green font? Your usage of green font is rather inconsistent. Nah just taking a new approach to my playstyle, Green text is suppose to be questions and orange text is names. Also why are you so agitated about my "hidden detail" It not like I tend to keep it a secret forever Because you're not doing anyone a favour by hiding it, and the fact that you're up for a debate on that topic isn't helping anyone either |
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Post by AlmostZero on Sept 21, 2019 14:47:07 GMT
oh you're online, suits me perfectly what do you think of schia's long post? and your biggest tr/sr if possible, i think most ppl have contributed enough to be pretty alignment indicative Alignment distinctive posts of latios and zol r amazing. No sl or sr d1 yet. Just want to see the lynches atm to determine the general view of majority of players. Gonna read schia long post again. hit me back when you've read enough to make some reads, and have an opinion on schia's post |
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Post by edwardzealchemist on Sept 21, 2019 14:51:32 GMT
Alignment distinctive posts of latios and zol r amazing. No sl or sr d1 yet. Just want to see the lynches atm to determine the general view of majority of players. Gonna read schia long post again. hit me back when you've read enough to make some reads, and have an opinion on schia's post Gonna give schia a null cause i dont generally see how the long post helps in a long run. Explaination for post being bad mainly include being a bit 2 generalized in terms of the policy lynch and jocus/cyan reads. Am unsure what reads he has on zol. |
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Post by edwardzealchemist on Sept 21, 2019 14:55:38 GMT
As i have no definite read rn i am gonna nl for reasons(mainly to see who else agrees/disagress on d1 nl)
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Post by AlmostZero on Sept 21, 2019 14:56:30 GMT
hit me back when you've read enough to make some reads, and have an opinion on schia's post Gonna give schia a null cause i dont generally see how the long post helps in a long run. Explaination for post being bad mainly include being a bit 2 generalized in terms of the policy lynch and jocus/cyan reads. Am unsure what reads he has on zol. is that all you gather from schia's long post? i don't look at you in a scum way because of this post, im just disappointed |
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Post by edwardzealchemist on Sept 21, 2019 14:56:34 GMT
As i have no definite read rn i am gonna nl for reasons(mainly to see who else agrees/disagress on d1 nl) |
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Post by AlmostZero on Sept 21, 2019 14:57:19 GMT
Alright can you read this post and tell me what you think of Cyan Talon? |
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Post by edwardzealchemist on Sept 21, 2019 14:57:54 GMT
Gonna give schia a null cause i dont generally see how the long post helps in a long run. Explaination for post being bad mainly include being a bit 2 generalized in terms of the policy lynch and jocus/cyan reads. Am unsure what reads he has on zol. is that all you gather from schia's long post? i don't look at you in a scum way because of this post, im just disappointed Schia long post to me is like latoiz gut read post tbh, but just more detailed. Fishing something out of that other than what u already showed us seems unlikely. Also whats ur status on schia atm? |
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Post by AlmostZero on Sept 21, 2019 14:58:03 GMT
As i have no definite read rn i am gonna nl for reasons(mainly to see who else agrees/disagress on d1 nl) can you please do me a favour and post a facepalm gif |
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Post by AlmostZero on Sept 21, 2019 14:59:31 GMT
is that all you gather from schia's long post? i don't look at you in a scum way because of this post, im just disappointed Schia long post to me is like latoiz gut read post tbh, but just more detailed. Fishing something out of that other than what u already showed us seems unlikely. Also whats ur status on schia atm? ok you know what you just tell me your opinion on cyan talon and i've made it clear that i view them as a town lean, though i'd love a little more input from them |
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Post by bluegummybear on Sept 21, 2019 14:59:56 GMT
nooo, i was looking for one ;[ |
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Post by edwardzealchemist on Sept 21, 2019 15:04:09 GMT
Schia long post to me is like latoiz gut read post tbh, but just more detailed. Fishing something out of that other than what u already showed us seems unlikely. Also whats ur status on schia atm? ok you know what you just tell me your opinion on cyan talon and i've made it clear that i view them as a town lean, though i'd love a little more input from them Cyan bad town. Seems too concerned about dialogues about him. Discussed setup. Tries to point out a afk or little help player lati without considering others who have done similar things like lati, e.g micro and crabbu. |
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Post by bluegummybear on Sept 21, 2019 15:05:06 GMT
As i have no definite read rn i am gonna nl for reasons(mainly to see who else agrees/disagress on d1 nl) I would like a extensive Investigation From me and Jocus situation, If you dont mind edwardzealchemist |
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Post by cyan on Sept 21, 2019 15:42:24 GMT
Formatting on a phone is hard, but let's get into the big stuff. Your initial post that suggested the possibility of Replicants seemed a bit too... emotional, for lack of a better term, at least to me. But once again, I'm taking it as something not worth talking about. On the topic of what was bolded, I'm not saying that my effort up to that point wasn't focused mainly on the setup, because it was. I was saying that I wasn't going to pay too much attention to it once the game develops and there are bigger things I can look through. I can't exactly talk about what doesn't exist - or rather, I couldn't have tried to solve the game using interactions and lines that hadn't existed at that point. If we're talking about Lati, I feel like I feel too little of him. It would be great of him to speak more so I can be more certain of what I think, but let's give him the solid "absolute null" sticker. One hell of a post made by cyan. I don't mean to intimidate you mate, but I've just got too much to say about this. Firstly, red. Mate, I'm taking this quote from the same post you replied to: This doesn't look good on you - it feels as if you only read the part of wallpost that concerns you, and not everything which a normal gamesolver would do. This is a pretty subjective and shallow reason to call someone, but trust me it raises a lot of fingers. And this ain't it. I'm not sure if you noticed Schia lynching me in the same post he mentioned Replicants being a possibility. That lynch didn't make a lot of sense to me.
Purple - Two words; Okay, and? Look, you're apologetic. We get it. But that doesn't help it. If you really are apologetic, then give us reads. That's the best way to apologise. If you can't do that much, then don't say that you're trying to improve. If I didn't know you better by PMeta then I'd easily give you a big scumslot because at this point you're just trying to make yourself look good, "oh im good i admit my mistakes, sorry dont lynch me x-x" is the type of vibe you're giving, which does NOT help us. Give reads, not apologies. I want a player list from you, ordered from most town to least town. That might help us. Giving reads isn't the only way to contribute to townplay, and it usually isn't what I focus on in a game. I tend to ask questions to other players to see what answers I get, and think based on those - and in case you missed it, I did ask questions right after the response post. Also, what makes you think I'm trying to look good? I was offering an explanation for my early-game actions, not pulling a "don't lynch me pls" card.
Pink - Same as purple; No one asked you if you feel neutral towards lati. Everyone is by default neutral. Hell, I feel neutral towards the host. Let me give you a hint, it doesn't help us at all. You had no reason to mention this, yet you do. It feels like you're trying to post reads just to look active and that you're contributing and helping town, but in reality you're not helping scumhunting at all. Want to guess what faction you're looking like rn? I hope I don't have to spell it out for you. Schia literally asked me what I felt about Lati. I responded by saying that he was a neutral to me; if you want to call me out for not reading everything, be sure to read as much as you can at the same time.Want to fix your mistakes? Read the game again. Get reads. Scumhunt. I'm sorry if I sounded angry. , seems only fitting |
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Post by cyan on Sept 21, 2019 15:49:50 GMT
I don't see why a town would be hiding something not role related. You could reveal a scum if you had the correct details. But you aren't. It's painfully obvious, honestly jeez. And you have something with your role forcing you to use green font? Your usage of green font is rather inconsistent. Nah just taking a new approach to my playstyle, Green text is suppose to be questions and orange text is names. Also why are you so agitated about my "hidden detail" It not like I tend to keep it a secret forever It would be best if you came clean with the 'hidden detail'; we want as much information as we can possibly get, and hiding something from us so blatantly would not make much sense if you were town. ok you know what you just tell me your opinion on cyan talon and i've made it clear that i view them as a town lean, though i'd love a little more input from them Cyan bad town. Seems too concerned about dialogues about him. Discussed setup. Tries to point out a afk or little help player lati without considering others who have done similar things like lati, e.g micro and crabbu. Why 'bad town' over 'possible scum' or anything of similar caliber? And in what occasion did I call out Lati for being AFK as grounds for a read? Although, Crabbu could use a prod. He hasn't spoken much and I'd like to hear something from him.
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Post by cyan on Sept 21, 2019 15:50:44 GMT
this lynch is pretty random; an explanation would help |
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Sept 21, 2019 16:08:10 GMT
AlmostZero Aspects of their post kinda pinged me as being similar, almost as if Jocus had been borrowing observations from Fen. Maybe it's just me though (would appreciate some insight from Zest when the nosy betch gets online) Kage Cyan I'm not gonna go back and get intot he whole quotestacking thing as it would take too much time, but I would've liked something with a bit more substance re: Lat, seeing as he was your first lynch of the game, with said lynch being the only generative content from you other than the flavorsolving stuff. What specifically gives you a neutral read on Lat? Gun to your head, which way do you think he's most likely to flip? If you prefer another lynch for today, what went into that decision? etc. etc. etc. This is what I mean when I say your attention seems to be misplaced--you're giving enough to defend yourself/minimally satisfy people pressuring you, but you're not giving anything of substance or making meaningful efforts to get it from others. I don't like it. I'm not going to entertain notions of you not understanding the initial lynch on you because your own follow-up has made it abundantly clear that you do in fact understand it. @ed  I'm giving you homework 1) reread the thread 2) in plain language state 3 players you TR and 3 players you SR 3) format it like this: +TR [Name 1]: [reason] +TR [Name 2]: [reason] +TR [Name 3]: [reason] -SR [Name 1]: [reason] -SR [Name 2]: [reason] -SR [Name 3]: [reason] I have something I want to say and I'm not saying it until this happens.
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Sept 21, 2019 16:09:26 GMT
@bgb please state directly whether or not you have a post restriction. you don't need to go into detail, just confirm or deny.
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Post by abdel on Sept 21, 2019 16:14:07 GMT
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Post by bluegummybear on Sept 21, 2019 16:16:22 GMT
placeholder for long post I thought editing post was banned |
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Post by bluegummybear on Sept 21, 2019 16:22:24 GMT
@bgb please state directly whether or not you have a post restriction. you don't need to go into detail, just confirm or deny. . Attachments:
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Sept 21, 2019 16:23:57 GMT
"yes" or "no"
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Post by abdel on Sept 21, 2019 16:24:30 GMT
placeholder for long post I thought editing post was banned oh didn't know that, will just make a separate post then |
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Post by bluegummybear on Sept 21, 2019 16:24:51 GMT
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Post by abdel on Sept 21, 2019 16:40:12 GMT
long post time, sorry I haven't contributed a lot so far First of all, instant townlean on anyone who's called out other people for filler, aka Schia and Fenrir. It's protown, helpful and obviously got some discussion going. Biggest townread right now is AlmostZero. I'm a fan of the questions he has asked so far, he's made some good, aware reads ie: He's created a good mix of trying to figure out the flavor and pressing people for helpful answers, all around proactive. OK. I'm back. I'll follow up with more posts after this. Meanwhile: 1. Schiavetto's FOS on everyone who speculated about flavor is flawed, especially with multiple players suspected. There are both possible town and scum motivations—solving flavor and pretending to contribute—but there's no context in which we can settle on either of the motives. Therefore, it's non-alignment-indicative. Better to say "FOS on everyone." 2. Same goes with abdel "defending" me. 3. Schiavetto, can you explain your read on Cyan Talon (I assume that that isn't RVS)? 4. Gimm1ck, please change the thread title to "Day One." This looks forced, a hard copy of what Fenrir had said right before him and too defensive for an early-game suspicion. And the question to Schia, for me at least, seemed like a low effort way of saying "I'm here and trying to scumhunt", especially as a transition from trying to setupsolve to actually contributing. FoS on Jocus.  Gonna ignore the misrep in the first paragraph (divorces the comment in question from its context: AlmostZero [AZ? Arizona? You're probably going to get a nickname from me at some point tbh, fair warning] asked for clarity), and instead we'll turn our attention to the bold, which is more troublesome imo. My issue is that, if two out of three of your introductory posts are you speculating into the setup with minimal player interaction, it's going to catch my attention. If you deny it, that's going to catch my attention more. If you deny that you're giving undue focus to faction-solving and in the same breath continue to stress the point, it comes across as defensive. So I'll dig in my heels a bit here: You dropped a lynch on Lat a while back. What do you think of their play so far? Formatting on a phone is hard, but let's get into the big stuff. Your initial post that suggested the possibility of Replicants seemed a bit too... emotional, for lack of a better term, at least to me. But once again, I'm taking it as something not worth talking about. On the topic of what was bolded, I'm not saying that my effort up to that point wasn't focused mainly on the setup, because it was. I was saying that I wasn't going to pay too much attention to it once the game develops and there are bigger things I can look through. I can't exactly talk about what doesn't exist - or rather, I couldn't have tried to solve the game using interactions and lines that hadn't existed at that point. If we're talking about Lati, I feel like I feel too little of him. It would be great of him to speak more so I can be more certain of what I think, but let's give him the solid "absolute null" sticker. [/quote] I don't like how Cyan is beating around the bush here. You're being too passive. Is Schia's remark about Replicants worth pushing or not? Cause you keep saying it's not worth talking about it when you are talking about it and bringing it up. If you thought it was just an early day thing, you shouldn't have brought it up in the first place and rather waited until you have seen similar AI behavior from Schia. Also, no one was talking about Lati, so I do agree with AlmostZero it was a bit odd of you to bring him up. I don't know, it seems like you're grasping at straws to find a legitimate scumread, and being too passive in general. I don't like how bgb keeps capitalizing random letters. They've given random hints about their role, which I personally don't see scum doing at this point in the game, but I didn't like the Toni lynch. It was completely out of the blue (get it?), no reasoning behind it and kinda odd considering Toni said he had a 3 post restriction, you'd wait for him to make the remaining 2 posts first without forming a read. But maybe bgb knows something we don't. I'd really like to see more from zol and micro. Won't even bother with Lati. UnlynchLynch: Cyan Talon |
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