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Post by Claire on Feb 9, 2020 13:56:29 GMT
ok the game seems pretty stagnant so now seems as good a time as any for me to claim and still give people enough time to discuss it
I'm Mason Lover / Mason, I have one lover (smallworldz) and one other mason (don't think revealing them right now helps as much as they can keep going on with their life if I die so there's no point outing them)
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Post by Alexander489 on Feb 9, 2020 15:06:02 GMT
alex seems to paddling along at his own pace and it's concerning because he doesn't seem anything insightful to offer other than regurgitated talking points thank you I try |
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Post by Alexander489 on Feb 9, 2020 15:07:18 GMT
vote alex
arc also falls into the same empty-posting trap as alex
also turns out micro has 2 posts
who knew
Alexander489, since you're asking, what's your opinion on quiet slots like micro? i have 0 thoughts, would like them to get subbed if it continues |
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Post by Alexander489 on Feb 9, 2020 15:07:59 GMT
quick thoughts w/ Claire: xnad: you've expressed doubts about lynching me yet you're still on me? Is there really nobody else you SR? I can't really sr someone for talking this much early on - you've pretty much been carrying the game's discussion so far edje: "I feel like [RVS] doesn't accomplish as much as it does in PS!" Like xnad asked earlier, what made you feel this way? As far as I can tell, you still haven't responded to this fenrir: "Gonna take more time to respond when I finish work, but fear not. I’ve developed opinions." Could we perhaps... hear those opinions? abdel/aZero: not too much so far but it feels townish arctina: "can we get some more posts on this thread going reading is hard when there's only 2 people you can really read" up to this point you'd only made 2 posts yourself, with one of them was just a filler post asking if I was town (seriously, what did you expect to get out of that). My vote stays here. micro/alex/Epic: null, please wake up. As much as I like the three of you, you can't just sit around and lurk. (yes i know i haven't been the most active myself this game) >me being one of the lurkers |
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Post by Alexander489 on Feb 9, 2020 15:13:51 GMT
Claire Why is almost zero town?
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Post by ZestOfLife on Feb 9, 2020 15:21:45 GMT
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Post by Edjeanerations on Feb 9, 2020 15:25:24 GMT
edje isn't higher because his language choices seem to indicate nervousness
Edjeanerations any concrete thoughts?
ATM not really. I was just trying to get some pressure but with this whole thing it doesn't look like it will do well... |
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Post by Edjeanerations on Feb 9, 2020 15:27:27 GMT
ok the game seems pretty stagnant so now seems as good a time as any for me to claim and still give people enough time to discuss it I'm Mason Lover / Mason, I have one lover (smallworldz) and one other mason (don't think revealing them right now helps as much as they can keep going on with their life if I die so there's no point outing them) Just saw this. I guess its a good thing I wasn't on Claire eh? Though... outing your lover like that... what kind of play is that? |
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Post by Claire on Feb 9, 2020 16:13:06 GMT
ok the game seems pretty stagnant so now seems as good a time as any for me to claim and still give people enough time to discuss it I'm Mason Lover / Mason, I have one lover (smallworldz) and one other mason (don't think revealing them right now helps as much as they can keep going on with their life if I die so there's no point outing them) Just saw this. I guess its a good thing I wasn't on Claire eh? Though... outing your lover like that... what kind of play is that? Is it really a weird play? If I'm going to die anyway, might as well warn people of the consequences. |
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Post by smallworldz on Feb 9, 2020 16:34:26 GMT
Well we have ~24 hours to pick a new vote target
Anyone has any suggestions?
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Post by gimm1ck on Feb 9, 2020 16:49:21 GMT
On the topic of RVS, can flushie and small vote for someone pls. You can vote NL if you really want to but not voting anyone shows a level of hesitation that I don't want to see in my friendly neighbourhood forum game. FBI agent is town aligned So if you picked FBI agent as your ALIGNMENT (not role) You'd say that your alignment is FBI agent (which is town) Someone else who picked FBI agent as their alignment/role would then cc thus revealing one scum Yeah I realized you meant it this way after I posted. Still don't think it would help at all actually. Statistically speaking the scum wre going to find safeclaims, whether be it they chose a town role as their role, their role provides them indirect info (like lovers), or just straight up betting on a claim being safe because in all likelihood, 30 roles went out and out of like 160 cards, thats something I'm willing to bet on. Rather, claiming would just lead to people making false positives because god knows how skilled people can be when it comes to ignoring obvious flaws in logic when it aligns with what they want to believe and selfish as it seems, I don't want to be the one to have to deal with that. Regarding numbers, I'm fairly sure we werent suplosed to know our numbers so ZestOfLife whats the protocol here? do we just not claim numbers? or do we move on with this game changing twist? More precisely, why is NL an option if your goal is to force the nonvoters to place a vote? NL is a bad option, but anyone who did it can then be questioned as a method of moving the game forward. I'm "insistent on forcing others" to vote as early game RVSes and wagons can provide a lot of information - better to start things off with something even if it's nothing substantial. Yadda yadda, don't like this post for already said reasonsI mean ok Claire r u town? </3 yeah <3 also anyone scumreading me for my "es discard is scummy" comment isn't paying enough attention to the discards This raised an extreme red flag in my mind; nobody was lynching Claire bc of that, not only does this ignore the actual reasons why people are on Claire but it provides little to do with actual logic and seems like your average token 'geroffI'mtown' response to a wagon that I see scum frequently make.Cop discard seems scummy since there isnt alot of other strong roles in the game Also If they got 3 town cards it would be best to put the first strongest as your role,and then the 2nd strongest as your alignment to avoid looking scummy To explain my smallworldz read right now, part of me feels scum!smallworldz would not be confident enough to actually say these things (I know they're sometimes faulty but small screams newb!town more than any other player I've seen). That, as well as making an actual effort to play the game (and provide lynches for it too) make me tr small.y'know claire is still scummy for the RVS comment but like, jesus that bandwagon gained traction a hella lot faster than I expected. Is no one going to jump to her defense or play the devils advocate or anything? It's kind of uncomfortable how easily claire got like 5 votes in a 7maj game, especially knowing how reluctant you guys are at getting anywhere near maj. ZestOfLife votecount pls Ehh this post seems nai as I could see either town or scum xnad posting it, but I will comment that I would actually find someone hard defending Claire scummy, esp given the relative lack of content besides the Claire wagon; there's relatively little to actually counterpush someone with besides hopping on a wagon quickly. That's why I'd find people defending Claire to be town, as they would be actively running the risk of being sred due to it. Will touch on more of this later.Claire feels like tryhard town rather than mafia It seems weird how she said me n flushie were hesitating but thats because she wanted rvs The nl thing was definetly a scumbait-If she wanted to she could've voted nl herself XnadrojX-you give off a neutral read right now Arc is a scumread for me-look at her posts so far-this seems like something scum would do for town brownie points And thats about it so far vote Arctina
Another example of why Smallworldz is town - things like this make me feel he's putting in his best effort and not kind of riding low like I'd expect scum!small to do.thank you zol, very cool  now can we get some more posts on this thread going reading is hard when there's only 2 people you can really read This is my reason for why arctina is scum She asked people to start talking rather than putting pressure on those or even call them out on it This could be because she doesnt want to call out her scum partners for being inactive and just fencesitting She didnt even state her opinions on those 2 people either Also I dont think theres enough posts to state that rvs is over yet; 4 people didnt use their votes and most people have 1-2 posts so far, most of their content being fodder and the rvs vote See above for why I included this, another town!smallworldz example. I actually agree with small here, arc seems to be more passive than I'd like, and coughing up facts over actually doing anything with them (e.g. providing reads, supplementing pushes, etc.)edje isn't higher because his language choices seem to indicate nervousness
Edjeanerations any concrete thoughts?
Can you give quotes? Not really seeing this myself. Either way, how does it make Edj? More scum or more town?
Flush's catch-up is highkey one of the only things keeping me sane, I now know more about how flush thinks and approaches the game better than anyone else on the pl
micromorphic-neutral read,all he posted so far was hi and his rvs vote (the first person to vote claire before she did anything you all think is scummy) abdel-scumread; tries to make a town read look scummy by using bad logic and reasoning gimm1ck-slight scum ;some things Claire said give off feelings of scum attempting to earn free brownie points by fillering in some mishmash about ‘everyone should be voting’ please explain what claire said so you think claire is scum and not just wagon XnadrojX-probably a town read;why are you still on claire though if you think "I mean if you realized a major part of your argument was invalidated by your own stupidity" epicsnorlax-neutral read, didnt post so far.Scum would try to decieve the town, not just afk Edjeanerations-town read from me,btw why are you on forgottoflush if you think claire is scum Fenrir-neutral read,havent posted yet Claire-still a townread from me,gave reads that are pretty solid;i dont think scum would say that we should NL this early on almostZero-not that active but made original reads and isnt wagoning so it's a townread ForgotToFlush-town,his reads seem fine and I get why he placed most people where they are Alexander489-Using the same logic i used on arc i think he's scum asked people to start talking rather than putting pressure on those or even call them out on it Arctina- asked people to start talking rather than putting pressure on those or even call them out on it See previous smallworlz readsGoing to make a long ass wallpost of me catching up, responses are in Red for the glory of the motherland
Given Claire's claim seems believable I'll just shift off, don't think any of Claire's mason partners are on their wagon lol so I'll do my best to read and not like shift on them Totally Townie (TT): Gimm1ck, smallworldz Townie (T): Flush, Xbad Neutral (N): everyone else Scummy (S): Arctina, Alex (less of an sr than arc but ill get on this later) Super Scummy (SS): capitalism and my landlord Ill just be using the prefixes from now on |
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Post by gimm1ck on Feb 9, 2020 16:49:41 GMT
Lynch arc
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Post by Claire on Feb 9, 2020 16:49:52 GMT
Suggestions? You've been parked on Arctina for most of the day. Do you still want to lynch them?
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Post by Claire on Feb 9, 2020 16:52:02 GMT
(also we only have 13 hours left, not 24)
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Post by micromorphic on Feb 9, 2020 17:42:19 GMT
Ok
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Post by Claire on Feb 9, 2020 17:51:23 GMT
Do you really have nothing else to add?
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Post by Claire on Feb 9, 2020 18:01:45 GMT
Claire (3*) - micromorphic, Xnadrojx, AlmostZero
Arctina (3) - Claire, smallworldz, gimm1ck
ForgotToFlush (2) - Fenrir, Edjeanearations
AlmostZero (1) - Alexander489
Alexander489 (1) - ForgotToFlush
Abdel (1) - Arctina
Xnadrojx (1) - Abdel
Not Voting (1) - epicsnorlax
ngl I'd be up to flashwagon micro unless he steps up his game in the next hour or two, but arctina is fine too. In my opinion, the people that have not been here at all aren't as bad as those that have come in, said a couple of words of filler to avoid being poked, and then left.
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Post by micromorphic on Feb 9, 2020 19:47:11 GMT
Claire (3*) - micromorphic, Xnadrojx, AlmostZero Arctina (3) - Claire, smallworldz, gimm1ck ForgotToFlush (2) - Fenrir, Edjeanearations AlmostZero (1) - Alexander489 Alexander489 (1) - ForgotToFlush Abdel (1) - Arctina Xnadrojx (1) - Abdel Not Voting (1) - epicsnorlax ngl I'd be up to flashwagon micro unless he steps up his game in the next hour or two, but arctina is fine too. In my opinion, the people that have not been here at all aren't as bad as those that have come in, said a couple of words of filler to avoid being poked, and then left. no ty. lynch ftf |
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Post by Alexander489 on Feb 9, 2020 20:00:59 GMT
why are people saying they sr me but doing nothing about it lol
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Post by Alexander489 on Feb 9, 2020 20:01:10 GMT
ftf is the only real one
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Post by Alexander489 on Feb 9, 2020 20:01:31 GMT
can we lynch almostzero thanks!
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Post by gimm1ck on Feb 9, 2020 20:02:07 GMT
why are people saying they sr me but doing nothing about it lol I would happily if I had multiple lynches <3 |
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Post by gimm1ck on Feb 9, 2020 21:14:53 GMT
Oh yes forgot to mention
Totally Townie (TT): Gimm1ck, smallworldz
Townie (T): Flush, Xbad, Claire
Neutral (N): everyone else
Scummy (S): Arctina, Alex (less of an sr than arc but ill get on this later), micro
Super Scummy (SS): capitalism and my landlord
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Post by Fenrir on Feb 9, 2020 21:55:08 GMT
 This isn’t the GIF I was trying to get in this post, but you’ll take it anyways. Finally gonna catch up with the time I’ve got. |
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Post by Fenrir on Feb 9, 2020 22:05:35 GMT
I don’t know Claire personally, but they sort of strike me as experienced enough to know that not voting in RVS isn’t a scumtell, so theirbtrying to frame it as such is questionable. Xnad and AlmostZero seem to get me based on their responses, and Xnad’s other posts make me feel good putting a townlean on him. Think it’s the sheer amount of pressure he’s giving Claire and overall posting style. I don’t think the alignment-claim debate has much that is AI.
Just finished page 3.
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