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Post by Alexander489 on Feb 9, 2020 0:06:41 GMT
Claire feels like tryhard town rather than mafia It seems weird how she said me n flushie were hesitating but thats because she wanted rvs The nl thing was definetly a scumbait-If she wanted to she could've voted nl herself XnadrojX-you give off a neutral read right now Arc is a scumread for me-look at her posts so far-this seems like something scum would do for town brownie points And thats about it so far vote Arctina i would like to know your thoughts on some of the more quiet players such as micromorphic. interesting take on claire btw, i would like you to explain arc sr more tho 6.7.0 |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Feb 9, 2020 4:28:51 GMT
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Feb 9, 2020 4:30:46 GMT
On the topic of RVS, can flushie and small vote for someone pls. You can vote NL if you really want to but not voting anyone shows a level of hesitation that I don't want to see in my friendly neighbourhood forum game. ngl this doesnt really make sense to me? NL should never be an option and why are you so insistent on forcing others to participate in RVS? On the topic of RVS, can flushie and small vote for someone pls. You can vote NL if you really want to but not voting anyone shows a level of hesitation that I don't want to see in my friendly neighbourhood forum game. yeah sorry for flood but multi-ing on mobile is a bitch do forgive me pls ty. vote claireI realize the more I read this the more I get ticked off by it.
was tempted to jump down claire's throat for this but
I think this sort of unnatural forced post comes from a place of inexperience and not necessarily town v scum
speaking of experience
when was the last time me, xbad and fenrir were all in the same together?
v i n t a g e |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Feb 9, 2020 4:31:48 GMT
On the topic of RVS, can flushie and small vote for someone pls. You can vote NL if you really want to but not voting anyone shows a level of hesitation that I don't want to see in my friendly neighbourhood forum game.
with that being said, here's something you should know
this isn't how you get town to participate
demanding someone vote for the sake of voting doesn't really do anything for anybody
not entirely sure what it does for you specifically
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Feb 9, 2020 4:33:09 GMT
it's better than that: zol gave us role numbers so all VTs are unique
i'd also refrain from quoting the numbers since that goes into angleshoot territory and I am unsure what Zol's stance on that is |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Feb 9, 2020 4:34:04 GMT
Yeah I realized you meant it this way after I posted. Still don't think it would help at all actually. Statistically speaking the scum wre going to find safeclaims, whether be it they chose a town role as their role, their role provides them indirect info (like lovers), or just straight up betting on a claim being safe because in all likelihood, 30 roles went out and out of like 160 cards, thats something I'm willing to bet on. Rather, claiming would just lead to people making false positives because god knows how skilled people can be when it comes to ignoring obvious flaws in logic when it aligns with what they want to believe and selfish as it seems, I don't want to be the one to have to deal with that. Regarding numbers, I'm fairly sure we werent suplosed to know our numbers so ZestOfLife whats the protocol here? do we just not claim numbers? or do we move on with this game changing twist? Yeah you're not suppose to claim your role number |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Feb 9, 2020 4:35:33 GMT
y'know claire is still scummy for the RVS comment but like, jesus that bandwagon gained traction a hella lot faster than I expected. Is no one going to jump to her defense or play the devils advocate or anything? It's kind of uncomfortable how easily claire got like 5 votes in a 7maj game, especially knowing how reluctant you guys are at getting anywhere near maj. ZestOfLife votecount pls
i saw some measured responses to Claire's prompt but im hesitant to give out trs since a lot of people jumped to voting |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Feb 9, 2020 4:37:42 GMT
hihi y'know claire is still scummy for the RVS comment but like, jesus that bandwagon gained traction a hella lot faster than I expected. Is no one going to jump to her defense or play the devils advocate or anything? It's kind of uncomfortable how easily claire got like 5 votes in a 7maj game, especially knowing how reluctant you guys are at getting anywhere near maj. ZestOfLife votecount pls I heavily dislike this post. It can be perceived as either justification in advance for shifting to someone on the Claire wagon or it can be used as reason to lynch someone tomorrow that was on the Claire wagon today, either way it negates your entire push on Claire as you clearly have doubts about the lynch which contradicts how confident you were about Claire being scum earlier. In general I dislike how focused you were on the Claire push today, even after a number of people have participated in the thread, but all you keep doing is talk about Claire's posts in general. Vote: Xnad
id consider it fallacious to attack someone for examining the elephant in the room
You, in your own way, are doing the same thing |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Feb 9, 2020 4:39:29 GMT
alex seems to paddling along at his own pace and it's concerning because he doesn't seem anything insightful to offer other than regurgitated talking points
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Feb 9, 2020 4:48:02 GMT
Thoughts, organized
The F is silent
ForgotToFlush
Town probably
Xnad
smallz
Fine-ish
AZ
Abdel
edj
Suspicious
Claire
Alex
Arc
Largely Absent
Fenrir
gimm (but also suspicious)
Entirely Absent
micro
epicsnorlax
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Feb 9, 2020 4:51:42 GMT
vote alex
arc also falls into the same empty-posting trap as alex
also turns out micro has 2 posts
who knew
Alexander489, since you're asking, what's your opinion on quiet slots like micro?
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Feb 9, 2020 4:54:44 GMT
edje isn't higher because his language choices seem to indicate nervousness
Edjeanerations any concrete thoughts?
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Feb 9, 2020 4:58:16 GMT
vote alex
arc also falls into the same empty-posting trap as alex
also turns out micro has 2 posts
who knew
Alexander489 , since you're asking, what's your opinion on quiet slots like micro?
vote Alex |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Feb 9, 2020 5:01:19 GMT
anyways folks I like what I'm seeing so far
I ask that more people offer up some proactive reads though
I think there's enough information to start making inferences about alignments
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Post by epicsnorlax on Feb 9, 2020 7:06:16 GMT
yes hello sorry i havent posted i am just very busy ;_______;
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Post by ZestOfLife on Feb 9, 2020 8:01:55 GMT
Sloppy Votecounter 1.4
Abdel (1) - Arctina
Xnadrojx (1) - Abdel
Claire (4) - micromorphic, Xnadrojx, gimm1ck, AlmostZero
ForgotToFlush (2) - Fenrir, Edjeanearations
AlmostZero (1) - Alexander489
Alexander489 (1) - ForgotToFlush
Arctina (2) - Claire, smallworldz
Not Voting (1) - epicsnorlax
With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to hammer. |
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Post by ZestOfLife on Feb 9, 2020 8:05:48 GMT
Also 1 day warning till the deadline.
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Post by Claire on Feb 9, 2020 12:09:25 GMT
quick thoughts w/ Claire:
xnad: you've expressed doubts about lynching me yet you're still on me? Is there really nobody else you SR? I can't really sr someone for talking this much early on - you've pretty much been carrying the game's discussion so far
edje: "I feel like [RVS] doesn't accomplish as much as it does in PS!" Like xnad asked earlier, what made you feel this way? As far as I can tell, you still haven't responded to this
fenrir: "Gonna take more time to respond when I finish work, but fear not. I’ve developed opinions." Could we perhaps... hear those opinions?
abdel/aZero: not too much so far but it feels townish
arctina: "can we get some more posts on this thread going reading is hard when there's only 2 people you can really read" up to this point you'd only made 2 posts yourself, with one of them was just a filler post asking if I was town (seriously, what did you expect to get out of that). My vote stays here.
micro/alex/Epic: null, please wake up. As much as I like the three of you, you can't just sit around and lurk. (yes i know i haven't been the most active myself this game)
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Post by Claire on Feb 9, 2020 12:10:35 GMT
also I'm claiming in 2 hours if I've still got plur
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Feb 9, 2020 12:11:56 GMT
what's your fixation with rvs claire?
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Post by Claire on Feb 9, 2020 12:29:44 GMT
what's your fixation with rvs claire? I'm definitely realising now that I was overvaluing it, but essentially i just like looking into lynch patterns later on after we have a scum flip, and having lynches on the board is a better starting situation than "hi *leaves for 48 hours*". Early wagons help with that as well, having a couple of medium-sized wagons (like the one on me right now) can be read into. (for example, I've notice a lot in the past that single large early wagons are often town as scum has no reason to coordinate a counterwagon, and multiple large wagons usually have at least one groupscum for that same reason - they don't want a dead partner day 1 if possible). Of course, this kind of thing can be really unreliable and it all depends on the players, but it's at least a start and any day 1 method of gathering reads/content is better than none. |
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Post by smallworldz on Feb 9, 2020 12:39:19 GMT
micromorphic-neutral read,all he posted so far was hi and his rvs vote (the first person to vote claire before she did anything you all think is scummy)
abdel-scumread; tries to make a town read look scummy by using bad logic and reasoning
gimm1ck-slight scum ;some things Claire said give off feelings of scum attempting to earn free brownie points by fillering in some mishmash about ‘everyone should be voting’
please explain what claire said so you think claire is scum and not just wagon
XnadrojX-probably a town read;why are you still on claire though if you think "I mean if you realized a major part of your argument was invalidated by your own stupidity"
epicsnorlax-neutral read, didnt post so far.Scum would try to decieve the town, not just afk
Edjeanerations-town read from me,btw why are you on forgottoflush if you think claire is scum
Fenrir-neutral read,havent posted yet
Claire-still a townread from me,gave reads that are pretty solid;i dont think scum would say that we should NL this early on
almostZero-not that active but made original reads and isnt wagoning so it's a townread
ForgotToFlush-town,his reads seem fine and I get why he placed most people where they are
Alexander489-Using the same logic i used on arc i think he's scum asked people to start talking rather than putting pressure on those or even call them out on it
Arctina- asked people to start talking rather than putting pressure on those or even call them out on it
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Feb 9, 2020 12:48:05 GMT
what's your fixation with rvs claire? I'm definitely realising now that I was overvaluing it, but essentially i just like looking into lynch patterns later on after we have a scum flip, and having lynches on the board is a better starting situation than "hi *leaves for 48 hours*". Early wagons help with that as well, having a couple of medium-sized wagons (like the one on me right now) can be read into. (for example, I've notice a lot in the past that single large early wagons are often town as scum has no reason to coordinate a counterwagon, and multiple large wagons usually have at least one groupscum for that same reason - they don't want a dead partner day 1 if possible). Of course, this kind of thing can be really unreliable and it all depends on the players, but it's at least a start and any day 1 method of gathering reads/content is better than none.
I doubt anyone is pouring over rvs votes in the future for associations
bc most of it chalks up to nai
it's a lot easier to just ask x a question about y or z and see how they respond |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Feb 9, 2020 12:48:54 GMT
anyway Claire
if you could have somebody die right now who would you choose?
in fact i want everybody to answer if they can
who is your biggest scumread
reasons optional
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Post by Claire on Feb 9, 2020 12:55:07 GMT
anyway Claire
if you could have somebody die right now who would you choose?
in fact i want everybody to answer if they can
who is your biggest scumread
reasons optional One of the lurkers: preferably one of the ones that have spoken but said nothing (arc/micro) |
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