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Post by ForgotToFlush on Mar 12, 2020 22:45:35 GMT
this doesn't make sense
a lot of the events you outlined comes after you made your first statement saying xnad/blurb was your lynch
look i know you two are having your problems but if one of you could lynch the scum rn that would be GRAND
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Post by chapterseven on Mar 12, 2020 22:51:43 GMT
look i know you two are having your problems but if one of you could lynch the scum rn that would be GRAND
chillWhat do we get out of waiting? a Scum!Fen response about how he's not scum? Unless someone has anything to bring up that will A) Help fen's case or B) cause attention to shift towards another potential scum I don't see what we gain from waiting. Any discussion we WOULD have in those next 24 hours about other topics besides not fenrir can just be had in day 3 |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Mar 12, 2020 22:53:02 GMT
there are 24 hours left
chill What do we get out of waiting? a Scum!Fen response about how he's not scum? Unless someone has anything to bring up that will A) Help fen's case or B) cause attention to shift towards another potential scum I don't see what we gain from waiting. Any discussion we WOULD have in those next 24 hours about other topics besides not fenrir can just be had in day 3
i need to speak to and read them
this is my job
cutting day early does not help me do my job |
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Post by chapterseven on Mar 12, 2020 23:00:57 GMT
What do we get out of waiting? a Scum!Fen response about how he's not scum? Unless someone has anything to bring up that will A) Help fen's case or B) cause attention to shift towards another potential scum I don't see what we gain from waiting. Any discussion we WOULD have in those next 24 hours about other topics besides not fenrir can just be had in day 3
i need to speak to and read them
this is my job
cutting day early does not help me do my jobThat's actually a fair point, I do like Flush a little more now for not wanting to end day quickly like I did, though let's be real out of those 7 people you are probably only going to get to talk to like 4 max I'm still super confident that Fen is scum so much that if this flips town I'll not only eat my shorts on livestream, I'll hop in VC and sing every song ever created by BlackPink TWICE once in English and Once in Korean. BUT I do like this. Since you don't want to end the day yet what do you think about bgb do you still scumread the slot (because iirc you were one of the people wanting a tbz lynch) or has bgb changed your opinion with his entrance + current play. |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Mar 12, 2020 23:02:23 GMT
there are 7 other people alive, excluding myself
i need to speak to and read them
this is my job
cutting day early does not help me do my job That's actually a fair point, I do like Flush a little more now for not wanting to end day quickly like I did, though let's be real out of those 7 people you are probably only going to get to talk to like 4 max I'm still super confident that Fen is scum so much that if this flips town I'll not only eat my shorts on livestream, I'll hop in VC and sing every song ever created by BlackPink TWICE once in English and Once in Korean. BUT I do like this. Since you don't want to end the day yet what do you think about bgb do you still scumread the slot (because iirc you were one of the people wanting a tbz lynch) or has bgb changed your opinion with his entrance + current play.
Idt that's a hit
his reads post is bizarre but all the stuff after that has me liking him |
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Mar 12, 2020 23:54:27 GMT
Hey, the world is literally ending and my schedule's gone to shit due to preparations for shutting my school down and taking all instruction virtual, which has been an extremely cool and fun process. got some thots to post.
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Post by chapterseven on Mar 12, 2020 23:56:37 GMT
Hey, the world is literally ending and my schedule's gone to shit due to preparations for shutting my school down and taking all instruction virtual, which has been an extremely cool and fun process. got some thots to post. same things happening to my mother tbh (who's also a teacher) |
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Mar 13, 2020 0:07:04 GMT
I guess this is the point where I accept my lynch on bgb is in vain. Both OM and Fenrir have 3 votes (although 1 of fen's votes is himself, so realistically OM has 4 votes and Fenrir 2 if fenrir comes back) Fenrir is not scum with either of xnad and chap. OM is is not scum with either of xnad and schia. If OM flips Town, Schia is Mafia. Both of their scumflips would give a lote of info. Fenrir's townflip would be near-useless, OM flipping town would say a lot about Schia. Neither is ideal for me; realistically, OM would be the flip that gives more info to me. However, I'm not sure how much any of you agree with this. If every player pinky promises me to lynch schia if OM flips town, and to never lynch xnad or schia if OM flips scum I'll be happy to lynch him. For now, I'd rather go with my individual read here, as I still tl OM. Unlynch BGB
Lynch Fenrir y'all seeing this?Can we please for the love of god stop for a second to address the fact that Sir Mister took actual time out of his day to comment on the OM- and Fenrir-wagons' being tied, acknowledge that they were only technically tied due to Fenrir's activity levels, give an either/or read on me and OM, assert that OM's lynch was more useful.... and then still lynch Fenrir? Like, what? What game are you in bro |
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Mar 13, 2020 0:12:46 GMT
Hey, the world is literally ending and my schedule's gone to shit due to preparations for shutting my school down and taking all instruction virtual, which has been an extremely cool and fun process. got some thots to post. same things happening to my mother tbh (who's also a teacher) wish her the best of luck, man, it's crazy out here. new york fucking crumbling I do want to say rn that whatever doubts I may have had about scum!FtF have been somewhat put to ease by the last page or so from him--going for LHF slots is hardly useful here, especially in light of the self-lynch activity clause (which is 100% more beneficial imo if seen from the lens of how other players utilize those selfvotes, rather than the idling player themselves) I'm ready for eblurb and bgb to wow me in these next few hours |
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Mar 13, 2020 0:13:06 GMT
(in case it wasn't clear i'm staying firmly put on OM you can't make me shift, y'all)
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Post by Fenrir on Mar 13, 2020 1:14:44 GMT
Hello I am Not Dead or something like that
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Post by Fenrir on Mar 13, 2020 1:24:33 GMT
I'll be online for a while, but a lot of that time's gonna be spent reading so no one hold their breath for new posts within the hour.
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Post by Fenrir on Mar 13, 2020 1:43:05 GMT
Question to be answered along the way: Why am I (a slot that's been inactive/idled for most of the game so far) such a massive discussion topic?
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Post by Fenrir on Mar 13, 2020 2:09:24 GMT
Aight. I got five slots I'm looking at currently wrt scumleans: eblurb, Sir Mister, FTF, OM, and Thunder/bgb slot in that order from most scummy to least. And I feel p confident in at least two of these flipping scum. Each of y'all is getting a post dedicated to y'all, then I'll go into detail with my townreads (currently C7 and a gut townread on Schia that I actually need to reread in order to back it up). Prefacing all of this because it's a recurring theme in all of the following reads, there's a disproportionate amount of thread focus on a dead slot (that's me!) and I feel like that's p telling in itself that you've got people who have spent all of Day 2 trying to push a lynch on a slot that highkey should've been subbed by now and some of them are citing vague reasons from early Day 1. Of course my early Day 1 posts aren't gonna be saying a ton. They're early Day 1 posts and iirc there was next to nothing happening for most of that day to begin with. C7's not in this club due to his citation of my meta as part of this, but chapterseven it's not a super accurate meta anymore as I'm kind of just generally dead now in most games (see the GestI game on this site for an example, I got Vanilla Survivor in role madness which was demotivating enough in itself but I just generally have trouble motivating myself now to stay active past Day 1). TL;DR whether people have been for or against my lynch, the average town player shouldn't be this fixated on lynching/"solving" a slot that's 0-posted for the entire day. And now we're gonna go in-depth on that. |
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Post by Fenrir on Mar 13, 2020 2:37:06 GMT
Two Quick Things: 1. The way that Spiderz wagon built up was kind of sus. Flush may have got him out as an easy lynch quick as scum, but I doubt it. I mean he wasn't helping his case, but that's kind of just his thing (raging, no reasons for lynches, etc.).
2. The way that the Fenrir or other early wagons dissolved was quick is also sus. Fenrir was at 2 lynches until everyone wagoned on Spiderz. Maybe there were a few soft busses or something before but not sure. This was just after skimming so I'm not sure. Will be back after I've been able to read more in depth. Edit: Schia hasn't been much of a presence either. A lot of his latest lines were one liners and not really relating to scum reads (just agreeing/disagreeing with people). Not sure if that's just how he plays, but it felt like he was just talking/reading for the sake of. Even so, all of that could just be NAI but it was an observation.
Major agenda vibes in the way that you mention that other early wagons also dissolved, then single out and fixate on one of them. I don't think any of those early "dissolving" wagons are likely to even hold anything of value given that most of them stemmed from RVS and had one or two votes on them at most iirc. You're also dismissive of Schia's earlier content and warning that he'll be less active during Day 1, and rather than attempt to evaluate if this is standard play for him you just throw in the mention that you're not sure as a caveat. As an aside, editing posts is disallowed in games. i’d also be down for an xnad policy lynch because u know and also zol wasn’t the most townie either. i’m willing to bet there’s one scum in xnad/tbz/sirm ornsomething as well. tr: chap tl: om, ftf (yesterday was probably a tvt and the deathtunnel seemed townie (even though ppl think tunneling is scummy) null: tbz fos: sirm, xnad sr: schia (less so but more than fos), fenrir will elaborate on reads if prompted, busy rn so i cant type like an essay for my reasoning en lol finishing these reads rn if its not finished im editing it edit: asking for only a lurker lynch without making reads and looking at game is an L. although the lurker slots are useless, i think that besides wanting a lurker lynched, you need a few other reads as well or it just looks like you’re pushing an easy lynch or don’t have reads. sorry if this is an L it’s just the vibes i’m picking up rn. apologies for lurking before but yeah i’m here now i guess This readlist has little progression behind it; I can understand posting one's reads without explaining why but that's only if it's already obvious why one has those reads. Your FoS/SR group consists of three less active players and Schia (who is also less active and the read of which I've already commented on above). C7 is an easy townread to make and your read on FtF and how his "deathtunnel seemed townie" isn't supported by anything I've seen (it's standard for FtF in general and there's nothing about the content of it that makes it lean more in favor of town that scum), it feels more like you're trying to appease complaints that could stem from his aggression. Eblurb's follow-ups when questioned on these reads are all citing either vague terms like "lynch patterns" or based on associations that he doesn't actually have to commit to once someone flips to disprove one of those theories. His defense of OM on page 11 isn't a defense so much as it is saying that he doesn't think OM should have so much attention. I'm working on avoiding pre-flip associations, so this is currently only in the back of my head and OM has his own problems that we'll also look at real soon. Gonna take 5-10 and then continue with SirM, who may or may not switch places with FtF within that five-person PoE. |
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Post by bluegummybear on Mar 13, 2020 14:48:08 GMT
Interesting, I'm glad you brought up some attention to eblurb. because I am now more curious than ever to know what everyone read on eblurb as of now. I am actually leaning to lynch blurb today if that could happen in the amount of time we have left. I demand to eblurb to respond to speak before the day ends!  Attachments:
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Mar 13, 2020 15:09:32 GMT
fenrir ain't it
OM/Blurb/Xnad should be lynch
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Post by chapterseven on Mar 13, 2020 15:34:52 GMT
fenrir ain't it
OM/Blurb/Xnad should be lynch
why OM over Fen I'll switch if you give me a good enough reason why |
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Post by chapterseven on Mar 13, 2020 15:36:22 GMT
ONLY if you get a give a good enough reason because I'm 100% on fenrir but I still want to hear why I should go on OM over Fen
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Post by bluegummybear on Mar 13, 2020 16:01:43 GMT
fenrir ain't it
OM/Blurb/Xnad should be lynch
why OM over Fen I'll switch if you give me a good enough reason why 1. Hows your day? 2. Whats your intake on Eblurb 3. why fenrir over eblurb?
4. Do you see connections between fenrir and eblurb? 5. What do you think of fenrir now since he just recently posted? I skimmed through your iso and you claimed to be super confident that fenrir would flip mafia, though i don't see any strong reasoning
If you could answer promptly, that wouuld be great
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Post by bluegummybear on Mar 13, 2020 16:14:38 GMT
Aight. I got five slots I'm looking at currently wrt scumleans: eblurb, Sir Mister, FTF, OM, and Thunder/bgb slot in that order from most scummy to least. And I feel p confident in at least two of these flipping scum. Each of y'all is getting a post dedicated to y'all, then I'll go into detail with my townreads (currently C7 and a gut townread on Schia that I actually need to reread in order to back it up). Slap a Vote on eblurb then? Gonna take 5-10 and then continue with SirM, who may or may not switch places with FtF within that five-person PoE. wya? |
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Post by Fenrir on Mar 13, 2020 16:16:41 GMT
Got distracted by Overwatch and fell asleep mb, gonna work through the rest throughout today. Won't be here at deadline due to work, probably only have 3-4 hours left.
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Post by Fenrir on Mar 13, 2020 16:17:05 GMT
Also going to Unvote Fenrir in case just posting doesn't remove the self-vote.
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Post by chapterseven on Mar 13, 2020 16:20:23 GMT
why OM over Fen I'll switch if you give me a good enough reason why 1. Hows your day? 2. Whats your intake on Eblurb 3. why fenrir over eblurb?
4. Do you see connections between fenrir and eblurb? 5. What do you think of fenrir now since he just recently posted? I skimmed through your iso and you claimed to be super confident that fenrir would flip mafia, though i don't see any strong reasoning
If you could answer promptly, that wouuld be great
1) Pgood thanks for asking I plan on winning Schia's Walrus, so working on a strat rn 2) blurb is ZOL iirc Slot's meh to me personally feels like a wasted lynch what do we get out out it 3) refer to 2 + Fenrir has had way more interactions overall compared to blurb, Fen flipping lets us look at Flush, Me, Xnad, OM, & a few more where as blurb flipping gives us what Me and that's it unless you guys really care about me like that what do we get from a town blurb lynch?  a scum blurb lynch gives us a scum sure but I'm certain Fen's scum where as I don't think blurb is as likely to be scum 4) Yes refer to 5 for a more in depth about it 5) I think he's just trying to save himself actually now looking back at it if Fen flips scum Blurb is town because scum wouldn't shift attention from one scum to another like that. Fen didn't put a lynch on blurb which is interesting, but IMO Either way I think that Fen's the better lynch now because of that. You could make the argument that Fen is town because he didn't l blurb but i see it more has him trying to play it safe. |
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Post by Sir Mister on Mar 13, 2020 16:41:10 GMT
1. Hows your day? 2. Whats your intake on Eblurb 3. why fenrir over eblurb?
4. Do you see connections between fenrir and eblurb? 5. What do you think of fenrir now since he just recently posted? I skimmed through your iso and you claimed to be super confident that fenrir would flip mafia, though i don't see any strong reasoning
If you could answer promptly, that wouuld be great
1) Pgood thanks for asking I plan on winning Schia's Walrus, so working on a strat rn 2) blurb is ZOL iirc Slot's meh to me personally feels like a wasted lynch what do we get out out it 3) refer to 2 + Fenrir has had way more interactions overall compared to blurb, Fen flipping lets us look at Flush, Me, Xnad, OM, & a few more where as blurb flipping gives us what Me and that's it unless you guys really care about me like that what do we get from a town blurb lynch? a scum blurb lynch gives us a scum sure but I'm certain Fen's scum where as I don't think blurb is as likely to be scum 4) Yes refer to 5 for a more in depth about it 5) I think he's just trying to save himself actually now looking back at it if Fen flips scum Blurb is town because scum wouldn't shift attention from one scum to another like that. Fen didn't put a lynch on blurb which is interesting, but IMO Either way I think that Fen's the better lynch now because of that. You could make the argument that Fen is town because he didn't l blurb but i see it more has him trying to play it safe. Blurb is micro, xnad is zol. I now townlock c7 because he's near impossible to be a partner with 4 ppl (FtF Fenrir blurb and xnad [also he's not partners with me]). Idt anyone would slip in this way. |
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a scum blurb lynch gives us a scum sure but I'm certain Fen's scum where as I don't think blurb is as likely to be scum