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Post by Sir Mister on Mar 13, 2020 16:41:31 GMT
idt anyone would fake a slip this way*
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Post by bluegummybear on Mar 13, 2020 17:53:45 GMT
Fenrir: Gonna read back after night hits to build a stronger case but its the way he hopped on this wagon. Similar to OM I feel Fen's also spending most of the day agreeing with points already pulled up and going with the flow on the spiderz lynch rather than being Fenrir. Scum: OM, Fenrir I'm fairly confident in OM+Fenrir and that's the mf tea sis will look more into their interactions later, if not both of them than atleast one of them is scum. 1. Hows your day? 2. Whats your intake on Eblurb 3. why fenrir over eblurb?
4. Do you see connections between fenrir and eblurb? 5. What do you think of fenrir now since he just recently posted? I skimmed through your iso and you claimed to be super confident that fenrir would flip mafia, though i don't see any strong reasoning
If you could answer promptly, that wouuld be great
1) Pgood thanks for asking I plan on winning Schia's Walrus, so working on a strat rn 2) blurb is ZOL iirc Slot's meh to me personally feels like a wasted lynch what do we get out out it 3) refer to 2 + Fenrir has had way more interactions overall compared to blurb, Fen flipping lets us look at Flush, Me, Xnad, OM, & a few more where as blurb flipping gives us what Me and that's it unless you guys really care about me like that what do we get from a town blurb lynch? a scum blurb lynch gives us a scum sure but I'm certain Fen's scum where as I don't think blurb is as likely to be scum 4) Yes refer to 5 for a more in depth about it 5) I think he's just trying to save himself actually now looking back at it if Fen flips scum Blurb is town because scum wouldn't shift attention from one scum to another like that. Fen didn't put a lynch on blurb which is interesting, but IMO Either way I think that Fen's the better lynch now because of that. You could make the argument that Fen is town because he didn't l blurb but i see it more has him trying to play it safe. eblurb is a wasted lynch? how? If im understanding correctly, You believe fenrir should be lynch for not only for being potential inactive scum but hes also the best lynch that Town will benefit from the most because of the accusation made on him rather then the interactions he has made himself. As for your answer to #3 What do you mean fenrir had more interactions compared to eblurb? The last time fenrir posted was like March 6th with 1 post that would be bring value to the game. On the other hand eblurb Had way more Post that brought value to the game and even had more interactions with other folks. He also in the same "inactive/low poster" category as fenrir. Your interactions with eblurb are quite minimal and I see a problem with it. You say your confident in fenrir flipping scum but the true reason for lynching fenrir is because you believe his flip would open for pathways for finding scum? While i just explain that fenrir himself did not have interactions with other folks. I don't see your reason something to be confident in also don't really see it as personal reason but a Lazy logical decision. "lets trail and error and lynch XZY if they flip town/scum hopefully we can find parnters/scum" I think i was going with that i think your fenrir Read is just a lazy push and your reason behind it is "whynot"
(Fuck, there was a gap between starting and finishing this post so apologies for low quality) 1) Pgood thanks for asking I plan on winning Schia's Walrus, so working on a strat rn 2) blurb is ZOL iirc Slot's meh to me personally feels like a wasted lynch what do we get out out it 3) refer to 2 + Fenrir has had way more interactions overall compared to blurb, Fen flipping lets us look at Flush, Me, Xnad, OM, & a few more where as blurb flipping gives us what Me and that's it unless you guys really care about me like that what do we get from a town blurb lynch? a scum blurb lynch gives us a scum sure but I'm certain Fen's scum where as I don't think blurb is as likely to be scum 4) Yes refer to 5 for a more in depth about it 5) I think he's just trying to save himself actually now looking back at it if Fen flips scum Blurb is town because scum wouldn't shift attention from one scum to another like that. Fen didn't put a lynch on blurb which is interesting, but IMO Either way I think that Fen's the better lynch now because of that. You could make the argument that Fen is town because he didn't l blurb but i see it more has him trying to play it safe. Blurb is micro, xnad is zol. I now townlock c7 because he's near impossible to be a partner with 4 ppl (FtF Fenrir blurb and xnad [also he's not partners with me]). Idt anyone would slip in this way. Townlock? ?
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Post by Fenrir on Mar 13, 2020 17:57:55 GMT
Guess who no longer has work because of (you get three reasons to guess why, first two don't count). Got more time, gonna take my time.
Gonna start back up with my take on Sir Mister. I found his method of focusing on clearing specific partnerships unproductive but not necessarily scummy, but his adherence to these reads and use of them as gospel truth has me re-evaluating that, especially because his reasons for most of these exclusions are things like "scum will never omgus each other early" and "C7 mixed up who subbed in for who."
He moves back and forth on Spiderz even in there post where he puts the vote on him (page 5) by throwing in how he feels "held back from voting him" because of multiple people calling Spiderz out, but doesn't seem committed to reconsidering the read before putting his vote on Spiderz. He doesn't reconsider it until EoD; hammer notwithstanding his reasons for it are again vague ("his last posts were genuine") and maybe this is just giving me vibes of my own scumplay in the Countdown game where I frequently showed up and switched my vote right at deadline to appear as if I was re-evaluating (though sometimes I actually wanted that switch to happen ahem FtF).
He's similarly vacillating on me today but it's not due to my activity level, it's because he's concerned on whether or not I make sense as a partner with Xnad and C7. On page 11 this is his justification for not voting me, by page 13 it's become his justification for voting me over OM even though he specifically calls OM "the flip that gives more info."
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Post by chapterseven on Mar 13, 2020 19:12:47 GMT
Fenrir: Gonna read back after night hits to build a stronger case but its the way he hopped on this wagon. Similar to OM I feel Fen's also spending most of the day agreeing with points already pulled up and going with the flow on the spiderz lynch rather than being Fenrir. Scum: OM, Fenrir I'm fairly confident in OM+Fenrir and that's the mf tea sis will look more into their interactions later, if not both of them than atleast one of them is scum. 1) Pgood thanks for asking I plan on winning Schia's Walrus, so working on a strat rn 2) blurb is ZOL iirc Slot's meh to me personally feels like a wasted lynch what do we get out out it 3) refer to 2 + Fenrir has had way more interactions overall compared to blurb, Fen flipping lets us look at Flush, Me, Xnad, OM, & a few more where as blurb flipping gives us what Me and that's it unless you guys really care about me like that what do we get from a town blurb lynch? a scum blurb lynch gives us a scum sure but I'm certain Fen's scum where as I don't think blurb is as likely to be scum 4) Yes refer to 5 for a more in depth about it 5) I think he's just trying to save himself actually now looking back at it if Fen flips scum Blurb is town because scum wouldn't shift attention from one scum to another like that. Fen didn't put a lynch on blurb which is interesting, but IMO Either way I think that Fen's the better lynch now because of that. You could make the argument that Fen is town because he didn't l blurb but i see it more has him trying to play it safe. eblurb is a wasted lynch? how? If im understanding correctly, You believe fenrir should be lynch for not only for being potential inactive scum but hes also the best lynch that Town will benefit from the most because of the accusation made on him rather then the interactions he has made himself. As for your answer to #3 What do you mean fenrir had more interactions compared to eblurb? The last time fenrir posted was like March 6th with 1 post that would be bring value to the game. On the other hand eblurb Had way more Post that brought value to the game and even had more interactions with other folks. He also in the same "inactive/low poster" category as fenrir. Your interactions with eblurb are quite minimal and I see a problem with it. You say your confident in fenrir flipping scum but the true reason for lynching fenrir is because you believe his flip would open for pathways for finding scum? While i just explain that fenrir himself did not have interactions with other folks. I don't see your reason something to be confident in also don't really see it as personal reason but a Lazy logical decision. "lets trail and error and lynch XZY if they flip town/scum hopefully we can find parnters/scum" I think i was going with that i think your fenrir Read is just a lazy push and your reason behind it is "whynot"
(Fuck, there was a gap between starting and finishing this post so apologies for low quality) Blurb is micro, xnad is zol. I now townlock c7 because he's near impossible to be a partner with 4 ppl (FtF Fenrir blurb and xnad [also he's not partners with me]). Idt anyone would slip in this way. Townlock? ? I explained why I wanted Fenrir day 1, its not just a lack of activity but rather how he prefers to agree with ideas that were already brought up rather than bring new ones to the table, notice how his reasoning for lynching spiderz was just a big blurb (no pun intended) of nothing, because it was things that we as a town already knew and stated far earlier into the game (him backing off his flush lynch yada yada all that jazz). At that point it was earlier A) shift the wagon or B) Agree. It feels like Fen was forcing activity from himself in order to make himself look townie, when all he did was just repeat what OM and Flush had already said but in one post. What does blurb give us? What does lynching blurb achieve that lynching Fenrir doesn't would like an answer to that. I might had poorly worded it but what I was trying to say that I'm confident fen is scum and when he flips scum look at everything that opens for us (Info on me flush OM xnad etc) compared to eblurb ( i did forget that eblurb posted a scum read list but his list is just Me Town (which is why I said lynching eblurb would open up the option of me), schia + Fen scum everyone else null or slightly town/scum) + don't you find the blurb read out of no where for fen? It feels fen is trying to shift attention off of himself and onto an easy push (blurb) so he can save himself.
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Mar 13, 2020 19:28:36 GMT
fenrir ain't it OM/Blurb/Xnad should be lynch
why OM over Fen I'll switch if you give me a good enough reason why ONLY if you get a give a good enough reason because I'm 100% on fenrir but I still want to hear why I should go on OM over Fen because he just came in and threw out every single thing everyone had against him granted, he echoed a lot of what I said but a lot of y'all didn't listen the first time
also his posts have a sense of self awareness that I'd consider hard to achieve for scum!fenrir i just dont think he posts that way if he's scum
i want to see who he actually guns for though but for now i know im not voting him
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Mar 13, 2020 19:30:10 GMT
What does blurb give us? What does lynching blurb achieve that lynching Fenrir doesn't would like an answer to that. I might had poorly worded it but what I was trying to say that I'm confident fen is scum and when he flips scum look at everything that opens for us (Info on me flush OM xnad etc) compared to eblurb ( i did forget that eblurb posted a scum read list but his list is just Me Town (which is why I said lynching eblurb would open up the option of me), schia + Fen scum everyone else null or slightly town/scum) + don't you find the blurb read out of no where for fen? It feels fen is trying to shift attention off of himself and onto an easy push (blurb) so he can save himself. blurb doesnt give us anything except a potential scumflip but the same goes for fenrir you've been gunning for minimal info lynches phrasing the question like this is moving the goalposts and absolving yourself of responsibility that you are now putting on others.
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Mar 13, 2020 19:36:49 GMT
I guess this is the point where I accept my lynch on bgb is in vain. Both OM and Fenrir have 3 votes (although 1 of fen's votes is himself, so realistically OM has 4 votes and Fenrir 2 if fenrir comes back) Fenrir is not scum with either of xnad and chap. OM is is not scum with either of xnad and schia. If OM flips Town, Schia is Mafia. Both of their scumflips would give a lote of info. Fenrir's townflip would be near-useless, OM flipping town would say a lot about Schia. Neither is ideal for me; realistically, OM would be the flip that gives more info to me. However, I'm not sure how much any of you agree with this. If every player pinky promises me to lynch schia if OM flips town, and to never lynch xnad or schia if OM flips scum I'll be happy to lynch him. For now, I'd rather go with my individual read here, as I still tl OM. Unlynch BGB Lynch Fenriry'all seeing this? Can we please for the love of god stop for a second to address the fact that Sir Mister took actual time out of his day to comment on the OM- and Fenrir-wagons' being tied, acknowledge that they were only technically tied due to Fenrir's activity levels, give an either/or read on me and OM, assert that OM's lynch was more useful.... and then still lynch Fenrir? Like, what? What game are you in bro
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Mar 13, 2020 19:43:44 GMT
y'all seeing this? Can we please for the love of god stop for a second to address the fact that Sir Mister took actual time out of his day to comment on the OM- and Fenrir-wagons' being tied, acknowledge that they were only technically tied due to Fenrir's activity levels, give an either/or read on me and OM, assert that OM's lynch was more useful.... and then still lynch Fenrir? Like, what? What game are you in bro i read it again if you go i'll go
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Post by Sir Mister on Mar 13, 2020 20:00:57 GMT
y'all seeing this? Can we please for the love of god stop for a second to address the fact that Sir Mister took actual time out of his day to comment on the OM- and Fenrir-wagons' being tied, acknowledge that they were only technically tied due to Fenrir's activity levels, give an either/or read on me and OM, assert that OM's lynch was more useful.... and then still lynch Fenrir? Like, what? What game are you in bro I've heard echoed that people aren't interested in listening to my interaction-based parterreads. If I'd lynch OM, he flips town, and I push Schiavetto the Mafia Goon, I'm expecting that to instantly be twisted and neglected. I've still not seen anyone else express that schia/OM are town/scum, so I don't want to risk this. Therefor I'm going with the individual scummier person, which is Fen.
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Post by bluegummybear on Mar 13, 2020 20:06:59 GMT
I've heard echoed that people aren't interested in listening to my interaction-based parterreads. If I'd lynch OM, he flips town, and I push Schiavetto the Mafia Goon, I'm expecting that to instantly be twisted and neglected. I've still not seen anyone else express that schia/OM are town/scum, so I don't want to risk this. Therefor I'm going with the individual scummier person, which is Fen. TF, are you town?
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Mar 13, 2020 20:08:03 GMT
I've still not seen anyone else express that schia/OM are town/scum, so I don't want to risk this. excuse me
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Post by bluegummybear on Mar 13, 2020 20:09:21 GMT
i read it again if you go i'll go Dont think thats gonna happen But I will do this Unlynch eBlurb
lynch cookies OMser
Eblurb will be getting death tunneled tmrw
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Post by bluegummybear on Mar 13, 2020 20:13:24 GMT
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Post by bluegummybear on Mar 13, 2020 20:16:13 GMT
I've still not seen anyone else express that schia/OM are town/scum, so I don't want to risk this. excuse me
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Post by Sir Mister on Mar 13, 2020 20:18:16 GMT
I've still not seen anyone else express that schia/OM are town/scum, so I don't want to risk this. excuse meProve me wrong. Yes.
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Mar 13, 2020 20:20:31 GMT
what is the point of posting when people simply do not read the posts
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Post by bluegummybear on Mar 13, 2020 20:33:04 GMT
I explained why I wanted Fenrir day 1, its not just a lack of activity but rather how he prefers to agree with ideas that were already brought up rather than bring new ones to the table, notice how his reasoning for lynching spiderz was just a big blurb (no pun intended) of nothing, because it was things that we as a town already knew and stated far earlier into the game (him backing off his flush lynch yada yada all that jazz). At that point it was earlier A) shift the wagon or B) Agree. It feels like Fen was forcing activity from himself in order to make himself look townie, when all he did was just repeat what OM and Flush had already said but in one post. What does blurb give us? What does lynching blurb achieve that lynching Fenrir doesn't would like an answer to that. I might had poorly worded it but what I was trying to say that I'm confident fen is scum and when he flips scum look at everything that opens for us (Info on me flush OM xnad etc) compared to eblurb ( i did forget that eblurb posted a scum read list but his list is just Me Town (which is why I said lynching eblurb would open up the option of me), schia + Fen scum everyone else null or slightly town/scum) + don't you find the blurb read out of no where for fen? It feels fen is trying to shift attention off of himself and onto an easy push (blurb) so he can save himself. Dont think there a reason to refute this since we dont have enough time and your pretty set on fenrir but sigh
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Mar 13, 2020 20:35:33 GMT
this one might just go to night phase then
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Post by OM~! on Mar 13, 2020 20:40:54 GMT
Help its so crowded
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Post by bluegummybear on Mar 13, 2020 20:46:56 GMT
and Sir mister Runs with dodging my question
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Post by Sir Mister on Mar 13, 2020 20:49:18 GMT
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Post by bluegummybear on Mar 13, 2020 20:51:26 GMT
look above
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Post by bluegummybear on Mar 13, 2020 20:54:47 GMT
Im going to go now, Fenrir I would like for you to save yourself if possible. I asked gim and you have to be on someone else in order to avoid self vote
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Mar 13, 2020 20:55:33 GMT
Imagine maj-ing into NL on a nightless setup. blurb
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Post by bluegummybear on Mar 13, 2020 20:59:59 GMT
Imagine maj-ing into NL on a nightless setup. blurb "Forgot to mention this, but - Mafia get a nightkill if Maj isn't reached. Which didn't happen today, which thankfully is also the reason I'm not drinking and considering my life choices." Holy moly i just seen this, If MAJ isnt reach I request to be killed im not liking this game anymore
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