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Post by chad on Jun 20, 2020 23:44:49 GMT
LMAO chad needs to carry us all  Much Appreciated, I'll go shower then ill be back to solve the game lol. |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jun 20, 2020 23:56:23 GMT
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Post by chad on Jun 21, 2020 1:03:32 GMT
Uhm, ewww? Who feels the need to announce their vote as random during RVS period. Your lucky I know nothing about you when comes to mafia or else I just lock you as scum here. |
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Post by myo! on Jun 21, 2020 1:08:10 GMT
Uhm, ewww? Who feels the need to announce their vote as random during RVS period. Your lucky I know nothing about you when comes to mafia or else I just lock you as scum here. he's very likely just fucking memeing honestly, I wouldn't be too surprised btw dtttbz |
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Post by chad on Jun 21, 2020 1:18:34 GMT
lynch lifesucc I'm allergic to the word turbo, policy vote Wow this is a scummy post
All policy votes are scummy
Are you the mafia police? Further, would like to reiterate that this game is unwinnable without activity / proper wagon formation, scum can somewhat easily enforce plurality and its 3 mislynches before a lylo. There's also quite good odds of lynching scum and vote history helps a lot down the line if you're town. Please commit to a vote even if you have absolutely no reads. This is oddly specific, and by all means should just be nai. Just curious as to why you felt the need to even make this post other than to buy town points. I think litteleven is town. Why would mafia say that? Mafia can say that to? Its common sense to handle all that shit well. Do you just want a free pocket? |
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Post by chad on Jun 21, 2020 1:19:30 GMT
chad's actually good at mafia so can you randlynch someone else Before I forget, pocket attempt has failed. Get back in line ayia dearest. |
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Post by chad on Jun 21, 2020 1:30:48 GMT
I think litteleven is town. Why would mafia say that? litt saying that could be interpreted both ways, but I don't like the tone of this rn, oof how do you quote multiple times in same message I can vibe with this. doing a read list with posts as of star's response to pkq in hopes that it generates discussion or useful connections for the future I refuse to do null reads, which means that most of these are very very slight (ordered within tiers) TT star generating useful discussion, and I've agreed with a lot of the points they've made so far. lifesucc the "turbo" thing is aggressively suspicious, and it feels like a TWTBAW kinda thing to me. T litt has had generally helpful posts, although as seen from my above post I think posting widely accepted mafia strategy is not really that townie ayia very slight read here, but he started the game and got ZoL off of chad for a meme reason, which looks townie to me pkq ok I said I wouldn't be doing null reads but his only post is like 99% NAI. I'm putting him here for now because theoretically he could have asked mafia chat instead. M ZoL pretty slight here too, but was pushed off of chad suspiciously easily and also cast a safety vote on the first slot, which weakens any slight wifomy analysis we could get out of it because instead of looking at the player list and picking a player he just decided on the first slot. Not sure how cohesive a thought this is, if it makes no sense I can elaborate. MM joker sus on this slot for reasons stated in my above post 40 Posts in, really? How badly do you want to bleed town my good sir oh, looking back on Litt's post has also made me realize that he's essentially trying to get players who aren't as good at reading to just sheep those who are trying, which honestly. Disturbs me a lot, personally. He's basically telling the players actually reading to be super careful as they have lots of power, but then those who aren't can just sheep their asses off until they find the right wrangler for them. This honestly is putting me off a lot, but because this is still in rhe earlier phases, I'll give it a pass and let Litt explain himself. This is quite the stretch, do we really believe litt thought that far into his post? +1 Ayia stop trying to blend in. |
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Post by ayia on Jun 21, 2020 3:06:08 GMT
I don’t really agree with this line of logic but it gives insight into his thought process and what he was thinking and i can kind of follow it? so i’m just gonna say this is town for now quojova i’m assuming you disagree I mean he had all this pressure piling on him at the point he posted this and these five lines don't do much to alleviate that for me. Lines 1, 4, and 5 basically amount to "it's just a day 1 read and I was just guessing, you shouldn't read into it that much," which is a fine point to make but doesn't resolve any of the tension from his initial post. Line 2's "It could change later on" is still basically saying "don't read into it too much" if I'm reading this correctly. "I think mafia could of kept their mouth shut easily" is finally a real point, but that point isn't much more than "Litt didn't lurk so he's not maf". There's obviously something about the post itself that made joker say it was towny, but he barely goes in-depth to try to tell us what that is here. If my interpretation is correct the 3rd line is just saying "a maf wouldn't reveal this plan to lead town's plur because they could have used it later on" as if the existence of the possibility of mafia leading plurality wagons is somehow a masterful and previously unknown plan that is completely shot by Litt's post. None of this makes sense to me, and the insistence that the post should be thrown out because it's "just a day 1 read" worries me the most. I'm also curious as to why this is suddenly a town read for you now. Maybe I could see this post making up for the previously awkward post and becoming an overall null read for you, but what have you seen from this post that makes you go "i’m just gonna say this is town for now"? It seems very premature. tonally I have no problem with it, even if the logic isn't great (hence the townread). I agree that it doesn't make much sense, but even in your own post nothing you say necessarily means he's scum; it just means he's bad lmao. no competent maf would say that either I promise i'm not lurking i'm just afraid to say anything umm this is not a read just a statement that objectively means you're lurking LMAO perched for yash to tunnel me all game Bold of you to assume I'm stupid to do that. I still don't like you after what happened in EiMM but that doesn't and shouldn't be factored into bias/beliefs on anyone in the game. Also I just typed a shit ton of stuff with over 20 quotes and responses/thoughts from my POV of how I see things, and I hit backspace once but wasn't in the text box so now I can't get any of it back b/c it sent me to the previous page visited before the reply section and I'm not gonna bother retyping everything b/c it took me a solid 30 minutes just to get past the first 3 pages with typing responses. Instead I'm just gonna give you a summary of what all I've read and what my reads are: Ayia: Again, sad that you think I'd tunnel you in an NOC forum game but moving along. You've got good content and good reads but the argument you've had with Arc really seems like nothing. This goes for Arc as well. I purely think that you're either being smart with this (and I can see it and can only pray that scum doesn't), or you guys are just both good content Town bickering amongst each other because of y'alls choice of words. Overall verdict: TR for D1. Don't take this shit as me trying to make amends or cover my tracks. I still hate your fucking guts Ayia. ZoL: I have no idea what you're doing but I realistically don't see much from you and especially considering you talked early, I just see it as an overcompensation for early town reads to make it easier to pick pocket off of others who haven't said much, if not anything at all. You proceeded to randlynch and then back off of it even though "Chad" had zero content and only agreed to Ayia because he apparently is "good" at mafia. Overall verdict: slight SR. Lifesucc: I can't really say much and it's hard to talk about what you've said in the game so far. I do admit that the turbo thingy on you and the policy lynch by Litt that followed is a bit unfair, and SRing litt for that slightly (which I'll get to) makes me feel like you're most likely town? It's still hard to tell at this point in the game sooooo overall verdict: Null, leaning towards town but I need more to get a definitive opinion. Litt: I liked the originality of your content, but after reading what others have said in regards to it, I feel like it could've easily been coerced so I can't really trust you on that. You're also being hella counter productive even if you did mean what you said because you also wanna policy lynch someone (I forgot who) purely bc they said "turbo"? Like that's almost harmless, it would only be harmful if it grew into a larger wagon but from what I see it isn't and hasn't. Overall verdict: slight SR, but a lot less of an SR in comparison to ZoL. At least you provided decent content. quojova: My strongest TR so far purely because they're considering everything and every scenario possible which is what good town would do. They aren't taking sides, and they've provided really good analysis. This isn't me sucking them off either, it's just the truth. Nothing negative to say about them here, I even agreed with their substance reads in my previous typings before they proceeded to get erased from existence due to the tab back paging. Overall verdict: Strong TR ForeverJoker: Call me out on this as your will but I feel like they're just noob town that got thrown into the crossfire of people taking their read way too seriously. I'm not excusing that behavior all the time but considering they're new, I'm not gonna step on them for it. However, foreverjoker I'd like you to add more content into your thoughts and reads because it makes us townies understand your thoughts and situation in the game. Thanks in advance. Overall verdict: Null. Arc: I'm not gonna lie I didn't even know who you were until Ayia asked and you said it was you. Regardless, you've contributed a lot of good discussion that makes me think you're town along with Ayia in the same situation. The bickering and stuff is just really unnecessary and it's just over the choice of words. Not yelling at just you for it, but consider stepping away from that argument and finding someone else to pressure and talk to because Ayia is just occupying your words for no reason. Ayia if you're reading this I mean the same to you. To me, you both are town and should just stop arguing about it before someone innocent and helpful gets lynched/killed. Overall verdict: TR PKQ: Call me a hypocrite but I still don't even like PKQ's early presence in this game. He hasn't done much (as havent I either which is why I'm trying to make up for it with this post) and hopefully they grow to have better reads? I still don't like the early game presence though. Overall verdict: slight SR, less than ZoL but more than Litt. TBZ: I love you <3 Anyways getting back to the game, they haven't talked much but they've talked more than others who haven't even checked the thread yet so that's a plus I can give to both him and PKQ b/c I forgot to mention it above. The randlynch on SadisticNarwhal is fine too because again it's random and d1 typically has RVS' so I don't know why that's really an issue. Overall verdict: TR, but not as much as quojava. This is a small TR that is smaller than most TRs I have so far in the game but it exists because there's been no bad intentions. Hopefully you don't bite me in the ass later, TBZ. SadisticNarwhal: You're overcompensating two randlynches in an NOC game and you're heavily concerned about it as if you're getting lynched from a 2 wagon. The post where you also talked about how you didn't know there was a traitor also could possibly be coerced and I'm not entirely sure I can trust you and your content with that kind of view I've got on you. Overall verdict: slight SR, close to my SR levels on ZoL but more than PKQ and Litt. Hopefully that answers a lot of people and hopefully you guys can understand my thoughts. This post is in no way attacking people. It's purely just what I've seen so far in the game. I'll be posting my lynch along with my reasons soon. If you wanna talk on here, let me know and I'll be glad to talk about the game in the thread. Hmm, why would I think it be in character to think that someone who hates me solely because I [unavoidably] stabbed in a game (especially one like EiMM, where you should expect to be stabbed) would lynch me for out of game reasons? How could I possibly come to that conclusion? Anyway, we should probably stop discussing our OOG beef in this game. Regarding your reads, I agree with most of them except for Arc (of course) and Litt (just because considering we're playing with PS I find their statement perfectly valid). I haven't read into PKQ, will do that soon Wow this is a scummy post All policy votes are scummy
Are you the mafia police? Further, would like to reiterate that this game is unwinnable without activity / proper wagon formation, scum can somewhat easily enforce plurality and its 3 mislynches before a lylo. There's also quite good odds of lynching scum and vote history helps a lot down the line if you're town. Please commit to a vote even if you have absolutely no reads. This is oddly specific, and by all means should just be nai. Just curious as to why you felt the need to even make this post other than to buy town points. I think litteleven is town. Why would mafia say that? Mafia can say that to? Its common sense to handle all that shit well. Do you just want a free pocket? chad's actually good at mafia so can you randlynch someone else Before I forget, pocket attempt has failed. Get back in line ayia dearest. Ah yes, the game of mafia, where even genuine complements get scrutinized doing a read list with posts as of star's response to pkq in hopes that it generates discussion or useful connections for the future I refuse to do null reads, which means that most of these are very very slight (ordered within tiers) TT star generating useful discussion, and I've agreed with a lot of the points they've made so far. lifesucc the "turbo" thing is aggressively suspicious, and it feels like a TWTBAW kinda thing to me. T litt has had generally helpful posts, although as seen from my above post I think posting widely accepted mafia strategy is not really that townie ayia very slight read here, but he started the game and got ZoL off of chad for a meme reason, which looks townie to me pkq ok I said I wouldn't be doing null reads but his only post is like 99% NAI. I'm putting him here for now because theoretically he could have asked mafia chat instead. M ZoL pretty slight here too, but was pushed off of chad suspiciously easily and also cast a safety vote on the first slot, which weakens any slight wifomy analysis we could get out of it because instead of looking at the player list and picking a player he just decided on the first slot. Not sure how cohesive a thought this is, if it makes no sense I can elaborate. MM joker sus on this slot for reasons stated in my above post 40 Posts in, really? How badly do you want to bleed town my good sir +1 Ayia stop trying to blend in. Regarding the response to quojova, I'm fine with it considering the inactivity of PS games and the fact that all of his reasoning is fine (many of his though processes match mine) Regarding the response to me idk you're kinda scrutinizing me for no reason I don't even know how to respond to this I don't really see how that can be interpreted as me trying to blend in as scum |
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Post by ayia on Jun 21, 2020 3:07:59 GMT
oops missed that first chad post
was gonna say
Litt's comment is perfectly acceptable because
we're playing in PS (and, beyond that, PS forums) lmao so that definitely needs to be said
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Post by Schrodinger on Jun 21, 2020 3:15:59 GMT
yo Imma check in in 7hrs
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Post by tremenon on Jun 21, 2020 4:17:07 GMT
So right now here's my small list of reads and thoughts on some folks. If i didnt include someone I havent drawn a conclusion on them or i dont have any important thoughts on them yet. Also I didnt read the whole ayia vs ⭐ thing but i think i got the gist of it. (Might go back later if it comes up again)
Quo- Very helpful, feels the most town to me.
Litt- honestly the first few comments they made dont seem like they have anything deeper than whats at face value, but i'm still unsure if they are town or not
⭐- I think what they said about litt's comment could be taken one of two ways. 1, they attempted to antagonize litt so they could lynch them or they arr very cautious. I bet theres a third or fourth possible motive i havent come across but i don't wanna dwell on something that happend 10 hours ago too much My gut is saying they are not town but I really dont wanna trust my gut this time.
*This is the point where i got tired and my thoughts became shorter
Yash- my gut says town
Ayia- I know i had thoughts on them but they slipped my mind, darn
Anyways its 4 hours past my bed time so I'll try to get something better tomorrow
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Post by qtball on Jun 21, 2020 5:40:29 GMT
hmmm im too tired to comprehend rn so ill post in the morning
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Post by litteleven on Jun 21, 2020 11:13:01 GMT
post to clear things up: the post was a psa because of the extremely low activity prior. if you applied a town read based off that line you're gullible or pocketing
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Post by litteleven on Jun 21, 2020 11:27:29 GMT
unlynch lifesucc
lynch forever joker
flunked my vote earlier
"Well for starters its just a day 1 read.
It could change later on but I think mafia could of kept their mouth shut easily.
Like they could of tried to gain plurality later on without revealing their plan.
Litteleven could be mafia but right now I'm just guessing
You looked into a slight read too much tbh" - forever joker earlier
i can't buy dropping a read as soon as people look into the smallest of implications as something town would openly do. it's not even reverting their read more so as distancing themselves from their actions, plus i'm not a fan of the narwhal wagon given both they and the people lynching them aren't really doing anything in game to justify their stance on the lynch
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Post by Schrodinger on Jun 21, 2020 11:28:36 GMT
oh, looking back on Litt's post has also made me realize that he's essentially trying to get players who aren't as good at reading to just sheep those who are trying, which honestly. Disturbs me a lot, personally. He's basically telling the players actually reading to be super careful as they have lots of power, but then those who aren't can just sheep their asses off until they find the right wrangler for them. This honestly is putting me off a lot, but because this is still in rhe earlier phases, I'll give it a pass and let Litt explain himself. Again another instance of you're making scumreads out of really NAI single liners?? like that's not even close to what he was saying at all and you're trying to extrapolate meaning where there is none I mean, when there was nothing to really read from, the only thing that could be used to generate discussion was litt's statement. though I agree it was pretty nai, but I appreciate them putting some more thought into it. |
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Post by Schrodinger on Jun 21, 2020 11:36:45 GMT
one thing I really don't like is Ayia completely disregarding my attempts to explain myself but who knows maybe he's just being stubborn. i don't understand where this is coming from you did not attempt to explain yourself, you just justified?? sorry sweetie Lynch dragondriftawayexplaining oneself and justifying onseself has a very thin line, and imo star was explaining themself there. but regardless, I don't think this is the right lynch here with half the pl dead, or even the sr on them by u makes little sense to me. speaking of lynch, I won't get off of tbz unless they do something. |
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Post by Schrodinger on Jun 21, 2020 11:45:17 GMT
so sorry babe but going out of your way to press on lines that aren't me explaining myself is just nonsensical, you're trying to dig them into the back and put focus on me for wording my posts wrong. like shut the hell up. please. just. stop typing. you're no longer making any sense and are just looking for reasons to pounce. while I'm not gonna cross because I'm hesitant to say tunnelling is really a scum move, but I'm going to kindly ask you to stop, take a deep breath, and read. I see where you coming from but that tone hurts. but I could also see how ayia's push can feel annoying, mostly because their arguments are kinda petty, and also because you feel you're being tunneled. so this is going to a townlean slot rn, mostly because this bad reaction is not a good scum reaction. |
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Post by Schrodinger on Jun 21, 2020 11:56:58 GMT
Well for starters its just a day 1 read. It could change later on but I think mafia could of kept their mouth shut easily. Like they could of tried to gain plurality later on without revealing their plan. Litteleven could be mafia but right now I'm just guessing You looked into a slight read too much tbh this is town!fj. or the traitor, like someone else mentioned. |
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Post by Schrodinger on Jun 21, 2020 12:17:57 GMT
So right now here's my small list of reads and thoughts on some folks. If i didnt include someone I havent drawn a conclusion on them or i dont have any important thoughts on them yet. Also I didnt read the whole ayia vs ⭐ thing but i think i got the gist of it. (Might go back later if it comes up again) Quo- Very helpful, feels the most town to me. Litt- honestly the first few comments they made dont seem like they have anything deeper than whats at face value, but i'm still unsure if they are town or not ⭐- I think what they said about litt's comment could be taken one of two ways. 1, they attempted to antagonize litt so they could lynch them or they arr very cautious. I bet theres a third or fourth possible motive i havent come across but i don't wanna dwell on something that happend 10 hours ago too much My gut is saying they are not town but I really dont wanna trust my gut this time. *This is the point where i got tired and my thoughts became shorter Yash- my gut says town Ayia- I know i had thoughts on them but they slipped my mind, darn Anyways its 4 hours past my bed time so I'll try to get something better tomorrow helpful=/=town but ok, and would like some input on ayia v dragondriftway but overall I like this post, but not as a gamesolving perspective. |
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Post by Schrodinger on Jun 21, 2020 12:46:31 GMT
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Post by foreverjoker on Jun 21, 2020 13:10:02 GMT
I'm not noob player and yeah people looked too much into one line.
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Post by foreverjoker on Jun 21, 2020 13:10:23 GMT
Has my lynch even talked yet? Otherwise staying on
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Post by foreverjoker on Jun 21, 2020 13:10:46 GMT
I'll try and answer some questions in the next 2-3 hours
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Post by quojova on Jun 21, 2020 14:05:01 GMT
I mean he had all this pressure piling on him at the point he posted this and these five lines don't do much to alleviate that for me. Lines 1, 4, and 5 basically amount to "it's just a day 1 read and I was just guessing, you shouldn't read into it that much," which is a fine point to make but doesn't resolve any of the tension from his initial post. Line 2's "It could change later on" is still basically saying "don't read into it too much" if I'm reading this correctly. "I think mafia could of kept their mouth shut easily" is finally a real point, but that point isn't much more than "Litt didn't lurk so he's not maf". There's obviously something about the post itself that made joker say it was towny, but he barely goes in-depth to try to tell us what that is here. If my interpretation is correct the 3rd line is just saying "a maf wouldn't reveal this plan to lead town's plur because they could have used it later on" as if the existence of the possibility of mafia leading plurality wagons is somehow a masterful and previously unknown plan that is completely shot by Litt's post. None of this makes sense to me, and the insistence that the post should be thrown out because it's "just a day 1 read" worries me the most. I'm also curious as to why this is suddenly a town read for you now. Maybe I could see this post making up for the previously awkward post and becoming an overall null read for you, but what have you seen from this post that makes you go "i’m just gonna say this is town for now"? It seems very premature. tonally I have no problem with it, even if the logic isn't great (hence the townread). I agree that it doesn't make much sense, but even in your own post nothing you say necessarily means he's scum; it just means he's bad lmao. no competent maf would say that either You're right that I haven't seriously weighed the possibility of him being a confused townie yet, but here's why I'm not too convinced: I could easily imagine w!Joker falling into this line of play. He knows that he needs to make reads at some point and contribute in the game or he becomes suspicious, but because he knows every player's alignment (minus the traitor's), if he's not careful with the way he formulates his fake reads he could easily find himself spewing out reads that have no good justification. When he gets pushed about why he made his read he realizes that he has to come up with some reason past-him could have made the read. The reason he gives us as a result is pretty incoherent. It makes no sense. It suggests that with Litt's post out there, mafia can no longer lead town's plurality. I'm not sure how this would work with v!Joker. I'm applying some light pmeta from the games I've played with him on the site, but he's not a terrible player. I have a hard time believing he'd look at Litt's post and make this nonsensical logical leap that Litt just removed the possibility of mafia leading wagons. It doesn't make sense to me how that reasoning can come from anywhere but a desperate attempt to move to preserve self-cred which I find more likely in a maf than a townie. I actually think it's pretty unlikely for him to be traitor, I disagree with this position that an unexplained town read would make you clearly traitor to the mafia. ayia I'm not really parked right now though, because I admit the simple reality that everyone you will interact with at this point in the game is more likely than not a townie. I see no valid counterwagon at the moment though. Do you have a real case against dragondriftway here? foreverjoker I'm looking at your 2 posts so much because it's all you've given us. We need a chop by the end of the day, I tr all of the big talkers, so at this point I need to look into people with a small number of posts. What are your town reads? What are your scum reads? At what point exactly did you formulate the "Litt removed the possibility of mafia leading wagons" idea? Was it immediately after his initial post or while you were defending yourself or somewhere in the middle? |
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Post by pkq on Jun 21, 2020 15:30:18 GMT
Ok after looking at everything I am going to lynch lifesucc
If my bolding is messed up forgive me
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