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Post by ayia on Jun 21, 2020 18:48:32 GMT
i still want fj to respond to things and talk more so I can solidify a read there foreverjoker where you |
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Post by chad on Jun 21, 2020 18:50:29 GMT
I mean he had all this pressure piling on him at the point he posted this and these five lines don't do much to alleviate that for me. Lines 1, 4, and 5 basically amount to "it's just a day 1 read and I was just guessing, you shouldn't read into it that much," which is a fine point to make but doesn't resolve any of the tension from his initial post. Line 2's "It could change later on" is still basically saying "don't read into it too much" if I'm reading this correctly. "I think mafia could of kept their mouth shut easily" is finally a real point, but that point isn't much more than "Litt didn't lurk so he's not maf". There's obviously something about the post itself that made joker say it was towny, but he barely goes in-depth to try to tell us what that is here. If my interpretation is correct the 3rd line is just saying "a maf wouldn't reveal this plan to lead town's plur because they could have used it later on" as if the existence of the possibility of mafia leading plurality wagons is somehow a masterful and previously unknown plan that is completely shot by Litt's post. None of this makes sense to me, and the insistence that the post should be thrown out because it's "just a day 1 read" worries me the most. I'm also curious as to why this is suddenly a town read for you now. Maybe I could see this post making up for the previously awkward post and becoming an overall null read for you, but what have you seen from this post that makes you go "i’m just gonna say this is town for now"? It seems very premature. tonally I have no problem with it, even if the logic isn't great (hence the townread). I agree that it doesn't make much sense, but even in your own post nothing you say necessarily means he's scum; it just means he's bad lmao. no competent maf would say that either I promise i'm not lurking i'm just afraid to say anything umm this is not a read just a statement that objectively means you're lurking LMAO Bold of you to assume I'm stupid to do that. I still don't like you after what happened in EiMM but that doesn't and shouldn't be factored into bias/beliefs on anyone in the game. Also I just typed a shit ton of stuff with over 20 quotes and responses/thoughts from my POV of how I see things, and I hit backspace once but wasn't in the text box so now I can't get any of it back b/c it sent me to the previous page visited before the reply section and I'm not gonna bother retyping everything b/c it took me a solid 30 minutes just to get past the first 3 pages with typing responses. Instead I'm just gonna give you a summary of what all I've read and what my reads are: Ayia: Again, sad that you think I'd tunnel you in an NOC forum game but moving along. You've got good content and good reads but the argument you've had with Arc really seems like nothing. This goes for Arc as well. I purely think that you're either being smart with this (and I can see it and can only pray that scum doesn't), or you guys are just both good content Town bickering amongst each other because of y'alls choice of words. Overall verdict: TR for D1. Don't take this shit as me trying to make amends or cover my tracks. I still hate your fucking guts Ayia. ZoL: I have no idea what you're doing but I realistically don't see much from you and especially considering you talked early, I just see it as an overcompensation for early town reads to make it easier to pick pocket off of others who haven't said much, if not anything at all. You proceeded to randlynch and then back off of it even though "Chad" had zero content and only agreed to Ayia because he apparently is "good" at mafia. Overall verdict: slight SR. Lifesucc: I can't really say much and it's hard to talk about what you've said in the game so far. I do admit that the turbo thingy on you and the policy lynch by Litt that followed is a bit unfair, and SRing litt for that slightly (which I'll get to) makes me feel like you're most likely town? It's still hard to tell at this point in the game sooooo overall verdict: Null, leaning towards town but I need more to get a definitive opinion. Litt: I liked the originality of your content, but after reading what others have said in regards to it, I feel like it could've easily been coerced so I can't really trust you on that. You're also being hella counter productive even if you did mean what you said because you also wanna policy lynch someone (I forgot who) purely bc they said "turbo"? Like that's almost harmless, it would only be harmful if it grew into a larger wagon but from what I see it isn't and hasn't. Overall verdict: slight SR, but a lot less of an SR in comparison to ZoL. At least you provided decent content. quojova: My strongest TR so far purely because they're considering everything and every scenario possible which is what good town would do. They aren't taking sides, and they've provided really good analysis. This isn't me sucking them off either, it's just the truth. Nothing negative to say about them here, I even agreed with their substance reads in my previous typings before they proceeded to get erased from existence due to the tab back paging. Overall verdict: Strong TR ForeverJoker: Call me out on this as your will but I feel like they're just noob town that got thrown into the crossfire of people taking their read way too seriously. I'm not excusing that behavior all the time but considering they're new, I'm not gonna step on them for it. However, foreverjoker I'd like you to add more content into your thoughts and reads because it makes us townies understand your thoughts and situation in the game. Thanks in advance. Overall verdict: Null. Arc: I'm not gonna lie I didn't even know who you were until Ayia asked and you said it was you. Regardless, you've contributed a lot of good discussion that makes me think you're town along with Ayia in the same situation. The bickering and stuff is just really unnecessary and it's just over the choice of words. Not yelling at just you for it, but consider stepping away from that argument and finding someone else to pressure and talk to because Ayia is just occupying your words for no reason. Ayia if you're reading this I mean the same to you. To me, you both are town and should just stop arguing about it before someone innocent and helpful gets lynched/killed. Overall verdict: TR PKQ: Call me a hypocrite but I still don't even like PKQ's early presence in this game. He hasn't done much (as havent I either which is why I'm trying to make up for it with this post) and hopefully they grow to have better reads? I still don't like the early game presence though. Overall verdict: slight SR, less than ZoL but more than Litt. TBZ: I love you <3 Anyways getting back to the game, they haven't talked much but they've talked more than others who haven't even checked the thread yet so that's a plus I can give to both him and PKQ b/c I forgot to mention it above. The randlynch on SadisticNarwhal is fine too because again it's random and d1 typically has RVS' so I don't know why that's really an issue. Overall verdict: TR, but not as much as quojava. This is a small TR that is smaller than most TRs I have so far in the game but it exists because there's been no bad intentions. Hopefully you don't bite me in the ass later, TBZ. SadisticNarwhal: You're overcompensating two randlynches in an NOC game and you're heavily concerned about it as if you're getting lynched from a 2 wagon. The post where you also talked about how you didn't know there was a traitor also could possibly be coerced and I'm not entirely sure I can trust you and your content with that kind of view I've got on you. Overall verdict: slight SR, close to my SR levels on ZoL but more than PKQ and Litt. Hopefully that answers a lot of people and hopefully you guys can understand my thoughts. This post is in no way attacking people. It's purely just what I've seen so far in the game. I'll be posting my lynch along with my reasons soon. If you wanna talk on here, let me know and I'll be glad to talk about the game in the thread. Hmm, why would I think it be in character to think that someone who hates me solely because I [unavoidably] stabbed in a game (especially one like EiMM, where you should expect to be stabbed) would lynch me for out of game reasons? How could I possibly come to that conclusion? Anyway, we should probably stop discussing our OOG beef in this game. Regarding your reads, I agree with most of them except for Arc (of course) and Litt (just because considering we're playing with PS I find their statement perfectly valid). I haven't read into PKQ, will do that soon Are you the mafia police? This is oddly specific, and by all means should just be nai. Just curious as to why you felt the need to even make this post other than to buy town points. Mafia can say that to? Its common sense to handle all that shit well. Do you just want a free pocket? Before I forget, pocket attempt has failed. Get back in line ayia dearest. Ah yes, the game of mafia, where even genuine complements get scrutinized 40 Posts in, really? How badly do you want to bleed town my good sir +1 Ayia stop trying to blend in. Regarding the response to quojova, I'm fine with it considering the inactivity of PS games and the fact that all of his reasoning is fine (many of his though processes match mine) Regarding the response to me idk you're kinda scrutinizing me for no reason I don't even know how to respond to this I don't really see how that can be interpreted as me trying to blend in as scum Actually It's not a you thing, I say that to everyone that compliments my play because the one time I allowed myself to get pocketed pretty badly. The fact that you replied to way you did gives me reason to believe you rolled town here  . |
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Post by pkq on Jun 21, 2020 18:51:18 GMT
Here is my thing with this. To say this is more of scum move means that you believe that litt, forever joker, or quojova are scum. All of them are just making cases about the game. I don't know why this quote from lifesucc stuck out to me, but it looks like you want town to keep guessing on who is scum, because you don't want no clear town reads. I might even take it a step further that you might be trying to save one of your partners if you happy to be lynch down the road. Either way from what I have seen I doubt lifesucc and quojova are mafia so I am going to keep my lynch on you lifesucc. I have no idea how you came to this conclusion I think I am overthinking it tbh |
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Post by pkq on Jun 21, 2020 18:52:30 GMT
Here is my thing with this. To say this is more of scum move means that you believe that litt, forever joker, or quojova are scum. All of them are just making cases about the game. I don't know why this quote from lifesucc stuck out to me, but it looks like you want town to keep guessing on who is scum, because you don't want no clear town reads. I might even take it a step further that you might be trying to save one of your partners if you happy to be lynch down the road. Either way from what I have seen I doubt lifesucc and quojova are mafia so I am going to keep my lynch on you lifesucc. and what led you to this conclusion lmao even then, as i have stated multiple times that statement can provide a slight lean, or it may even be nai. I said I saw this more as a scum move trying to gain ez towncred implying this is a very slight scumlean, rather than a hard sr, this scum, turbo. and what's up with the quojova read? and if you doubt I'm 'mafia', why are you lynching me? did you make a typing mistake here? What I am saying that both of you can't be mafia. Only one of you can unless one is traitor. |
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Post by pkq on Jun 21, 2020 18:54:43 GMT
quick reads, I can explain whatever more later quojova obv town yash is town for reads and tone trem is townlean for his lengthier post but it’s weird that he was “scared to post” or whatever i want more from chad but for now he’s just a slight townlean, don’t like how he attempted to call me out for “buddying” and “blending in” but I can see that just being random pressure Litt is slight townlean as well and i’ve explained that prior Sadistic is null FJ is null ZOL is null Lieb needs to talk who tf is coal Lifesucc is a scumlean, I’ll explain that when I get on computer Arc is scum because a lot of reasons but I think the most dramatic was her shift from “calm collected” to “freaking out from a single read” and her dismissal of this to playermeta (which isn’t actually that applicable here, she does not blow up that much as town). also her tone is badddd it sounds like me when i’m scum. i’ll get specific quotes of this when i’m on comp who else exists i’m missing like 3 ayia I am going to SR you because quojova is not obvious town |
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Post by ayia on Jun 21, 2020 18:56:00 GMT
quick reads, I can explain whatever more later quojova obv town yash is town for reads and tone trem is townlean for his lengthier post but it’s weird that he was “scared to post” or whatever i want more from chad but for now he’s just a slight townlean, don’t like how he attempted to call me out for “buddying” and “blending in” but I can see that just being random pressure Litt is slight townlean as well and i’ve explained that prior Sadistic is null FJ is null ZOL is null Lieb needs to talk who tf is coal Lifesucc is a scumlean, I’ll explain that when I get on computer Arc is scum because a lot of reasons but I think the most dramatic was her shift from “calm collected” to “freaking out from a single read” and her dismissal of this to playermeta (which isn’t actually that applicable here, she does not blow up that much as town). also her tone is badddd it sounds like me when i’m scum. i’ll get specific quotes of this when i’m on comp who else exists i’m missing like 3 ayia I am going to SR you because quojova is not obvious town your mind this is yet another instance of NAI stupidity |
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Post by ayia on Jun 21, 2020 18:57:42 GMT
PKQ can I have your readslist? I kinda want to see where you stand for a few things
show me your every spicy take
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Post by chad on Jun 21, 2020 19:05:16 GMT
oops missed that first chad post was gonna say Litt's comment is perfectly acceptable because we're playing in PS (and, beyond that, PS forums) lmao so that definitely needs to be said I'll have to keep that in mind, meta wise others know the players better than me, so I guess its up to you to teach me what makes sense here and what doesn't. That being said I may still find stuff questionble regardless. |
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Post by qtball on Jun 21, 2020 19:32:05 GMT
I can see myself supporting a Tremenon lynch, but I'm gonna sit on Sadwhal for now
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Post by qtball on Jun 21, 2020 19:39:17 GMT
there's not much to even go off of yet f
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Post by sadisticnarwhal on Jun 21, 2020 19:47:01 GMT
perched for yash to tunnel me all game
SadisticNarwhal: You're overcompensating two randlynches in an NOC game and you're heavily concerned about it as if you're getting lynched from a 2 wagon. The post where you also talked about how you didn't know there was a traitor also could possibly be coerced and I'm not entirely sure I can trust you and your content with that kind of view I've got on you. Overall verdict: slight SR, close to my SR levels on ZoL but more than PKQ and Litt.
So I just got back on and this is the first thing I saw and idk if I'm gonna put in the effort to multiquote just yet so I'll respond to this rn. This was pretty cringe bro lmao I said "i got two on me for what?" and you make it sounds like I'm shaking in my boots, begging to be unlynched LMAO and I honestly just didn't know the setup - \\ |
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Post by Schrodinger on Jun 21, 2020 19:50:38 GMT
quick reads, I can explain whatever more later quojova obv town yash is town for reads and tone trem is townlean for his lengthier post but it’s weird that he was “scared to post” or whatever i want more from chad but for now he’s just a slight townlean, don’t like how he attempted to call me out for “buddying” and “blending in” but I can see that just being random pressure Litt is slight townlean as well and i’ve explained that prior Sadistic is null FJ is null ZOL is null Lieb needs to talk who tf is coal Lifesucc is a scumlean, I’ll explain that when I get on computer Arc is scum because a lot of reasons but I think the most dramatic was her shift from “calm collected” to “freaking out from a single read” and her dismissal of this to playermeta (which isn’t actually that applicable here, she does not blow up that much as town). also her tone is badddd it sounds like me when i’m scum. i’ll get specific quotes of this when i’m on comp who else exists i’m missing like 3 ayia I am going to SR you because quojova is not obvious town I too agree, its like quojova makes so much sense but tries so hard to be town that really messes up me gettin a read on them. but sring someone for not agreeing with their read at this point of time, when there is an explanation for the read is not the way chief. |
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Post by lieb on Jun 21, 2020 19:57:32 GMT
Hey sorry didn't notice this started; I'm gonna take a reread in a bit and highlight some of the things I've seen sorry for the delay  A very lazy excuse of not being here half of day when you've been pinged on discord and forums(assuming you have notifications on. also I do not like the fj lynch, mostly because the way they are playin is reminiscent of the way they play on ps is what I've realised. reads with not much thought, just based on instinct and tone and all. so I propose pressure on this for now, Unlynch, Lynch lienYour excuse is invalid because I'm literally not even in the discord  ?? |
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Post by tremenon on Jun 21, 2020 20:00:20 GMT
Yeah i said a wholelotta nothing fos on this for 1.admitting to lurking which in itself is fine because intimidation of this platform is defo a thing, but then this follow up makes less sense. 2. a half assed read list whose points were already made and widely agreed on. 3. I don't understand their read on dragon driftway here, they never sred them to my understanding but maybe I misread some early replys idk. 4.fj wanted to answer questions, and you lynch the guy without asking any. rude. actually matter of fact let me Unlynch, lynch tremenonsoz ftf 1. I promise i'm not lurking i'm just afraid to say anything how about a reads list? it doesn't take a whole lot of inspiration to do one of those i did that list thingy thanks to quojova's comment 2. no comment there you are completely right 3. who? 4. i misread the comment as "i'm gonna answer questions already made by others" thats my bad unlynch foreverjoker[ |
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Post by tremenon on Jun 21, 2020 20:04:23 GMT
Also side note, but Tremenon, saying “gut read” really makes it look like you’re trying to pull reads out of your ass just to look town lmao look I'm not acquainted with all the fancy "this means you are 100% scum" type things, i just meant for them to be just some thoughts going through my head |
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Post by chad on Jun 21, 2020 20:07:27 GMT
ayia I am going to SR you because quojova is not obvious town your mind this is yet another instance of NAI stupidity What is NAI? Your read list? Or being scum read for your read on quojova? |
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Post by chad on Jun 21, 2020 20:10:07 GMT
SadisticNarwhal: You're overcompensating two randlynches in an NOC game and you're heavily concerned about it as if you're getting lynched from a 2 wagon. The post where you also talked about how you didn't know there was a traitor also could possibly be coerced and I'm not entirely sure I can trust you and your content with that kind of view I've got on you. Overall verdict: slight SR, close to my SR levels on ZoL but more than PKQ and Litt.
So I just got back on and this is the first thing I saw and idk if I'm gonna put in the effort to multiquote just yet so I'll respond to this rn. This was pretty cringe bro lmao I said "i got two on me for what?" and you make it sounds like I'm shaking in my boots, begging to be unlynched LMAO and I honestly just didn't know the setup - \\ Not reading the setup should just be NAI, there is too much on the line to say, "Person A didn't know role C was in the game, clearly they dumb telled as town, because im sure Mafia A would have told Person A this is a thing". Stuff like that is 1 in a million, and ur reaction to being voted wasn't as bad as greninja made it sound so it makes me think ninja may be compensating for something. |
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Post by chad on Jun 21, 2020 20:11:07 GMT
Gut reads are a powerful tool, they can win games.
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Post by lieb on Jun 21, 2020 20:11:18 GMT
btw while I think about the star-ayia stuff was anyone actually impressed with joker's response at all? maybe I'm just not getting the "It could change later on but I think mafia could of kept their mouth shut easily. Like they could of tried to gain plurality later on without revealing their plan." could go the extra mile and say it's like traitor softing to scum, except its wrong in this instance; surprised nobody brought that thought up in the 4 pages over two lines this kinda feels off to me primarily because I don't see this calibur of player attempting to softing to mafia as traitor especially when they have to worry about coming off as town themselves; I'll let it go however as it does come off as genuine to me, don't see a reason for maf to highlight that |
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Post by lieb on Jun 21, 2020 20:14:55 GMT
one thing I really don't like is Ayia completely disregarding my attempts to explain myself but who knows maybe he's just being stubborn. i don't understand where this is coming from you did not attempt to explain yourself, you just justified?? sorry sweetie Lynch dragondriftawayHonestly whoever this star person is comes off as genuine to me (I'm assuming that's dragon driftway?). Regardless Ayia's tone here sounds really off and almost as a forced lynch that he parked and is refusing to unvote; for that reason Lynch Ayia. This is a safe place for me to park as I continue reading. |
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Post by chad on Jun 21, 2020 20:15:39 GMT
could go the extra mile and say it's like traitor softing to scum, except its wrong in this instance; surprised nobody brought that thought up in the 4 pages over two lines this kinda feels off to me primarily because I don't see this calibur of player attempting to softing to mafia as traitor especially when they have to worry about coming off as town themselves; I'll let it go however as it does come off as genuine to me, don't see a reason for maf to highlight that I find it unlikely that if a soft exist its obvious enough for anybody to pick up on, however, if anyone thinks a person softed they could be traitor its best to just lynch them. No? |
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Post by lieb on Jun 21, 2020 20:16:55 GMT
Also side note, but Tremenon, saying “gut read” really makes it look like you’re trying to pull reads out of your ass just to look town lmao look I'm not acquainted with all the fancy "this means you are 100% scum" type things, i just meant for them to be just some thoughts going through my head my reads have been all over the place in terms of locations of these posts and whatnot but this line from tremenon feels genuine, the fact that they r just going through whatever is on their mind feels like he has nothing to hide and is willing to work with town, TR on tremenon for now for that. It's not a lot to go off of, but judging by the noob vibes he is giving this feels like a good enough reason to tr someone as of now. |
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Post by lieb on Jun 21, 2020 20:17:27 GMT
this kinda feels off to me primarily because I don't see this calibur of player attempting to softing to mafia as traitor especially when they have to worry about coming off as town themselves; I'll let it go however as it does come off as genuine to me, don't see a reason for maf to highlight that I find it unlikely that if a soft exist its obvious enough for anybody to pick up on, however, if anyone thinks a person softed they could be traitor its best to just lynch them. No? Well I guess you should be telling that to Litt, i don't see what the other person said as being a soft lmao |
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Post by lieb on Jun 21, 2020 20:21:12 GMT
so sorry babe but going out of your way to press on lines that aren't me explaining myself is just nonsensical, you're trying to dig them into the back and put focus on me for wording my posts wrong. like shut the hell up. please. just. stop typing. you're no longer making any sense and are just looking for reasons to pounce. while I'm not gonna cross because I'm hesitant to say tunnelling is really a scum move, but I'm going to kindly ask you to stop, take a deep breath, and read. This is an embodiment of what Ayia's lines come off as. He's actively exploiting every little thing dragon is saying in order to rattle them up, and it doesn't come off as town pressuring it comes off as mafia going for a lynch on someone who's lines don't really come off as scum. I would let this go if it wasn't for the fact 6 hours left into the day and he's still not unvoting |
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Post by lieb on Jun 21, 2020 20:24:12 GMT
i still want fj to respond to things and talk more so I can solidify a read there foreverjoker where you Regardless, I just did a quick iso of Ayia and nothing and most of the things he's been saying is either prodding other people for reads or the afformentioned content. One thing I'd like to mention is that Ayia specifically prodded FJ to give reads instead of other inactive members at this given moment above. Players including myself hadn't outed reads and it does feel like ayia is trying to get FJ to talk. I could totally see FJ and Ayia being partners who is triyng to get FJ to contribute so people unvote. Just a little thing I would like to put out there if FJ ends up being lynched. |
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