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Post by bluegummybear on Sept 27, 2020 22:35:29 GMT
anything else i could say at this point would be forced out and not really worth reading Found a solution yet? It really seem like you are scum trying to play it safe. Okay now this is what I like to see. Give me more stuff like this Chap and I may just begin to tr you [plus the UL is nice too  ] Unlynch Chapter Seven
and with that I actually would like to put more pressure on this lot because I do agree with what is being said here. Lynch BGB
This isn't an omgus btw because (in the nicest way possible) I actually don't really care about what BGB is saying about me. I just don't really agree with it Yea, I can't see this as Town The Vote today for me is EDJ or Mistyx. I cannot with this town performance. Vote Edjeanerations |
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Post by Bomb Moss on Sept 27, 2020 22:48:45 GMT
Not sure why you haven't analysed the line itself in the same context. The post made is distractionary because it's not answering the original question of 'why did you force out a questionable read on someone' which only gets painted in a worse light when you check that it's basically a filler reason to wagon. Reaffirming it breaks pressure so I'll just ask straight up: are you skimming lines or do you have a genuine reason to affirm the post in that manner Bomb Moss1. If you lack the basic inference skills to see how the question was answered then you probably shouldnt be criticizing me about lacking analysis. 2. Breaking pressure is crappy logic when said pressure revolves around "ask for content" > "find problem with content". Good pressure doesnt get broken by 3 words on my part. If you want to apply pressure or whatever then go ahead because whatever was on them at the time certainly was a far cry from pressure. 3. And if you're talking about distractionary and filler reasons your entire post literally dodges explaining your stance itself. Just like what I said to bgb, using adjectives like "distractionary" doesn't function as elaboration. Your "point" is a load of horseshit. 4. If you scumread mistyx off that post then I think you need to re-evaluate your reads. If you can pull this kind of reach out of your ass, you're clearly approaching this with the mindset of "how do i justify scum doing this" rather than "would scum do this". |
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Post by Bomb Moss on Sept 27, 2020 22:52:10 GMT
These two posts bring up interesting things about BGB’s play, I can agree with these for now. It does seemed that BGB forced some reads out there instead of pursuing them. Vote BGB "Force read s" But regardless of the inaccuracy this totally seems like a bandwagon move. In terms of pursuing you got me there. But like Im not going to pursue someone with so little information unless I have to. If I had to choose someone to die today because they have the highest scum flip chance it would be EDJ but at this point I am ok with anyone that not a town lean. that totally is a bandwagon move. surprise, one aspect of good townies is knowing when to follow a good read |
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Post by Bomb Moss on Sept 27, 2020 22:54:40 GMT
It felt townie to me because it's a method I've never seen before, like I said. It's a day one read based off of one post anyways, it probably won't stay until they do more townie stuff Damn ok this is what I get? Ouch. Also, if I give off "read me as town" vibes then that's a good thing, isn't it?  Nothing have convinced me here. I wouldn't say that a good thing. Is there someone you are suspicious of? Oh hey game updates for papa to read over Something I think a lot of people glanced over What was the point of voting Penguin if you were just gonna change to Litt in quite literally the very next post. You were so adamant on PD pressure even to the point of bringing up PD quotes and then it just disappeared in a second. If it was because Litt pressure, that's a lie and we both know it Because you've done absolutely nothing in the way of Litt pressure since parking your vote on him. No questions, nothing. If you want my honest opinion on this slot rn it feels like it's saying and doing a lot without actually saying and doing a lot. BGB's posting a lot sure but nothing he's saying is of value while also attacking Litt's, Mist's Edjean's & Penguin's slot for doing the same. For example why did you feel the need to ask why Fenrir about his quite obvious joke question when we were still in RVS at the time. It felt like you were trying to appear like you were actively engaging in the game without actively engaging in the game. You Lynch Penguin for what I assume is filler and the random read on me yet you yourself are doing one of those two things (in a less obvious way) Unlynch Edjean Lynch BGBActually Now that I re-read this over, This does seem like a scum motivated push. But Ill await your response. "now that i thought of how to defend myself, I'm going to find problem with you. But only after you post more shit because I have no problem to find with your current posts" FTFY honestly cut this "response" crap out. If you have something to say just spit it out |
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Post by Bomb Moss on Sept 27, 2020 22:56:00 GMT
anything else i could say at this point would be forced out and not really worth reading Found a solution yet? It really seem like you are scum trying to play it safe. Okay now this is what I like to see. Give me more stuff like this Chap and I may just begin to tr you [plus the UL is nice too ] Unlynch Chapter Seven
and with that I actually would like to put more pressure on this lot because I do agree with what is being said here. Lynch BGB
This isn't an omgus btw because (in the nicest way possible) I actually don't really care about what BGB is saying about me. I just don't really agree with it Yea, I can't see this as Town The Vote today for me is EDJ or Mistyx. I cannot with this town performance. Vote EdjeanerationsYou have the same problem as litt holy fuck oh and we're turning to flaming everyone else now are we? |
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Post by Bomb Moss on Sept 27, 2020 22:57:47 GMT
yeah im on my phone now but the moment i get home to my laptop im gonna fuckin lay it on you just you wait
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Post by litteleven on Sept 28, 2020 2:27:49 GMT
Not sure why you haven't analysed the line itself in the same context. The post made is distractionary because it's not answering the original question of 'why did you force out a questionable read on someone' which only gets painted in a worse light when you check that it's basically a filler reason to wagon. Reaffirming it breaks pressure so I'll just ask straight up: are you skimming lines or do you have a genuine reason to affirm the post in that manner Bomb Moss1. If you lack the basic inference skills to see how the question was answered then you probably shouldnt be criticizing me about lacking analysis. 2. Breaking pressure is crappy logic when said pressure revolves around "ask for content" > "find problem with content". Good pressure doesnt get broken by 3 words on my part. If you want to apply pressure or whatever then go ahead because whatever was on them at the time certainly was a far cry from pressure. 3. And if you're talking about distractionary and filler reasons your entire post literally dodges explaining your stance itself. Just like what I said to bgb, using adjectives like "distractionary" doesn't function as elaboration. Your "point" is a load of horseshit. 4. If you scumread mistyx off that post then I think you need to re-evaluate your reads. If you can pull this kind of reach out of your ass, you're clearly approaching this with the mindset of "how do i justify scum doing this" rather than "would scum do this". and you've sidestepped the question entirely. You're undermining my response rather than explaining why you chose to break potential pressure in that fashion. (yes, you did do that, if you don't realise it I'm sure other people can testify to the fact) Hence I'm asking if you did it intentionally or just did it off a flow. You're also missing the point entirely, I asked why YOU responded the way you did regardless of my reads, you're still lacking reasoning so I'll just wait on a proper response. |
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Post by Bomb Moss on Sept 28, 2020 2:51:30 GMT
1. If you lack the basic inference skills to see how the question was answered then you probably shouldnt be criticizing me about lacking analysis. 2. Breaking pressure is crappy logic when said pressure revolves around "ask for content" > "find problem with content". Good pressure doesnt get broken by 3 words on my part. If you want to apply pressure or whatever then go ahead because whatever was on them at the time certainly was a far cry from pressure. 3. And if you're talking about distractionary and filler reasons your entire post literally dodges explaining your stance itself. Just like what I said to bgb, using adjectives like "distractionary" doesn't function as elaboration. Your "point" is a load of horseshit. 4. If you scumread mistyx off that post then I think you need to re-evaluate your reads. If you can pull this kind of reach out of your ass, you're clearly approaching this with the mindset of "how do i justify scum doing this" rather than "would scum do this". and you've sidestepped the question entirely. You're undermining my response rather than explaining why you chose to break potential pressure in that fashion. (yes, you did do that, if you don't realise it I'm sure other people can testify to the fact) Hence I'm asking if you did it intentionally or just did it off a flow. You're also missing the point entirely, I asked why YOU responded the way you did regardless of my reads, you're still lacking reasoning so I'll just wait on a proper response. Your surety is misplaced. I'm sure that these "other people" have the rudimentary inference skills to see what I'm saying. Your question has been answered in full and its not my responsibility to babysit your lack of ability to think. And don't think I didn't see your fallacy here. Phrasing your statement as a fact and basing a post off of it again doesn't qualify as elaboration, no matter how much you intend to mislead people with it. It is literally impossible to "undermine" a response that's already worthless to begin with, just as it is impossible to "break" pressure that doesn't exist. |
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Post by Bomb Moss on Sept 28, 2020 2:55:42 GMT
and you've sidestepped the question entirely. You're undermining my response rather than explaining why you chose to break potential pressure in that fashion. (yes, you did do that, if you don't realise it I'm sure other people can testify to the fact) Hence I'm asking if you did it intentionally or just did it off a flow. You're also missing the point entirely, I asked why YOU responded the way you did regardless of my reads, you're still lacking reasoning so I'll just wait on a proper response. Your surety is misplaced. I'm sure that these "other people" have the rudimentary inference skills to see what I'm saying. Your question has been answered in full and its not my responsibility to babysit your lack of ability to think. And don't think I didn't see your fallacy here. Phrasing your statement as a fact and basing a post off of it again doesn't qualify as elaboration, no matter how much you intend to mislead people with it. It is literally impossible to "undermine" a response that's already worthless to begin with, just as it is impossible to "break" pressure that doesn't exist. And your second question is a non-statement. Why does anyone say anything? Is every post I make supposed to be a big brain kickstart to an insightful discussion? I made a comment expecting to be responded to. I received a response. Content generated, town benefitted, at least, certainly a lot more than from posts like yours. |
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Post by ZestOfLife on Sept 28, 2020 3:19:24 GMT
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Post by litteleven on Sept 28, 2020 3:27:20 GMT
and you've sidestepped the question entirely. You're undermining my response rather than explaining why you chose to break potential pressure in that fashion. (yes, you did do that, if you don't realise it I'm sure other people can testify to the fact) Hence I'm asking if you did it intentionally or just did it off a flow. You're also missing the point entirely, I asked why YOU responded the way you did regardless of my reads, you're still lacking reasoning so I'll just wait on a proper response. Your surety is misplaced. I'm sure that these "other people" have the rudimentary inference skills to see what I'm saying. Your question has been answered in full and its not my responsibility to babysit your lack of ability to think. And don't think I didn't see your fallacy here. Phrasing your statement as a fact and basing a post off of it again doesn't qualify as elaboration, no matter how much you intend to mislead people with it. It is literally impossible to "undermine" a response that's already worthless to begin with, just as it is impossible to "break" pressure that doesn't exist. Mafia's a team game not a solo game. You insulting my thought process rather than explaining your actions is anti town because you're not willing to contribute and I'll leave it at that. . |
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Post by litteleven on Sept 28, 2020 3:30:37 GMT
I'll just re affirm my initial RVS on mistyx with an actual vote reasoning here: Picking a big wagon at the time with little reasoning and making a post that doesn't answer a question and deflects is scum behaviour to me.
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Post by Bomb Moss on Sept 28, 2020 3:41:21 GMT
Your surety is misplaced. I'm sure that these "other people" have the rudimentary inference skills to see what I'm saying. Your question has been answered in full and its not my responsibility to babysit your lack of ability to think. And don't think I didn't see your fallacy here. Phrasing your statement as a fact and basing a post off of it again doesn't qualify as elaboration, no matter how much you intend to mislead people with it. It is literally impossible to "undermine" a response that's already worthless to begin with, just as it is impossible to "break" pressure that doesn't exist. Mafia's a team game not a solo game. You insulting my thought process rather than explaining your actions is anti town because you're not willing to contribute and I'll leave it at that. . Exactly because it's a team game that I can't afford to waste time with burdens like you. A team is only as strong as the weakest link |
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Post by Bomb Moss on Sept 28, 2020 3:45:41 GMT
Penguin had a singular vote at the time of voting. If you think one vote is a big wagon you've clearly got a screw loose.
And for the record, just because you can't read and/or infer my explanations for my actions doesn't mean I am not, nor does it mean I'm not contributing or hampering the discussion.
The point I made about your thought process being completely backwards wrt to scumreading mistyx still stands and you're apparently too busy demanding every little thing be explained to you for you to respond to that. Take care not to accuse others of the sins you're guilty of.
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Post by Bomb Moss on Sept 28, 2020 3:48:51 GMT
Lmao okay I guess you're right. Fine then I'm taking back my slight tr on Bgb and I expect to see townie shit from the rest of you so I can get some reads. I don't wanna leave OM with nothing to go off of I would like to say real quick I do find it interesting how quickly Edjean shifted from BGB is a slight tr to "let me put pressure on this slot". It just feels unnatural to me like he's not forming his own reads and is just going off of what's popular. I would agree with this but I'm tunnelling bgb today. Plus, bandwagoning is fine when the subject is genuinely scummy, and I'm sure you agree. (Of course I'm not denying the importance of formulating one's own reads, but following a bigger read isn't necessarily bad) |
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Post by Bomb Moss on Sept 28, 2020 3:50:24 GMT
I'll just re affirm my initial RVS on mistyx with an actual vote reasoning here: Picking a big wagon at the time with little reasoning and making a post that doesn't answer a question and deflects is scum behaviour to me. I would also like to pose a question, do you not find a similar problem with PenguinD's lynch of BGB? Or Edje's lynch of BGB? |
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Post by Bomb Moss on Sept 28, 2020 3:53:09 GMT
Dw it's (not) coming (I don't think it's AI, slightly or otherwise, just want to hear from Misty on the subject) Edjeanerations does something being novel equal something being townie though? I've never seen someone open with the bee movie script but if they did I wouldn't auto-townread them for it /s BGB remains in my "withholding judgment" zone currently. Only eyebrow-raising thing from them for me is their Litt vote being something of a non sequitur. Lmao okay I guess you're right. Fine then I'm taking back my slight tr on Bgb and I expect to see townie shit from the rest of you so I can get some reads. I don't wanna leave OM with nothing to go off of Actually re: the chap response I made earlier, I just noticed this post existed. So I guess the bgb lynch wasn't as much of a 180 as it seemed? It's closer to two 90 degree turns, which isn't that good itself, but certainly better than a full 180 as you say. |
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Post by Bomb Moss on Sept 28, 2020 4:22:02 GMT
Another reason why I don't like reading people for lack of content is that instead of trying to make do with the crumbs of content on the floor, you should be encouraging content instead. Read people for what is, not what is not. what, did you think I had reads that I just wasn't outing for some reason? Maybe a few questions can get some discussion going. If you had one of the following power roles, who would you use them on and why? (Cop/vig/watch) Regarding that question, all the other inactives should answer it too, maybe this can fix this game's activity. Or else the fights im picking will only be between me and someone else, which sucks because fights are most active when everyone is fighting. |
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Post by Bomb Moss on Sept 28, 2020 4:29:48 GMT
Last post of this flood before I head out:
1. The point wasn't what I was calling it. The point is that whatever you were doing wasn't going to go anywhere.
2. Your logic has quite a bit of a gap here. The point is that both alignments want to be read as town. Townies being townread is good for town because a lynch doesn't get wasted on them. Leaving aside the technicalities of whether Edje was really trying to fake a town impression or not, getting town read as a townie is also beneficial to town. Going from "not all players prioritize being townread" to "trying to get townread is just scummy" is a massive disconnect and a dangerous generalization. As is all things mafia, you're gonna have to elaborate on why this specific instance of trying to be townread is scummy. Is it because he's using it as an excuse for something? Is he trying to leverage a protown position to manipulate a wagon? As is, your argument is literally "he's trying to look towny, he's scum!"
3. not really game-related but not gonna lie I wanted to do day 1 for the same reason, because if day 1 is this chaotic, I'd really rather let my partner carry me day 2. It's a non-point.
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Post by PenguinD on Sept 28, 2020 5:02:20 GMT
Another reason why I don't like reading people for lack of content is that instead of trying to make do with the crumbs of content on the floor, you should be encouraging content instead. Read people for what is, not what is not. what, did you think I had reads that I just wasn't outing for some reason? Maybe a few questions can get some discussion going. If you had one of the following power roles, who would you use them on and why? (Cop/vig/watch) Regarding that question, all the other inactives should answer it too, maybe this can fix this game's activity. Or else the fights im picking will only be between me and someone else, which sucks because fights are most active when everyone is fighting. Alright, to answer this question, I would cop you since you are pushing town for activity but still at the same time could easily be you, I would also watcher you since you seem like the best slot to kill, and vig Litt, a slot that could easily be scum, but also provides some useful information from their flip. |
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Post by Bomb Moss on Sept 28, 2020 9:19:03 GMT
there we have some activity! Another reason why I don't like reading people for lack of content is that instead of trying to make do with the crumbs of content on the floor, you should be encouraging content instead. Read people for what is, not what is not. Maybe a few questions can get some discussion going. If you had one of the following power roles, who would you use them on and why? (Cop/vig/watch) Regarding that question, all the other inactives should answer it too, maybe this can fix this game's activity. Or else the fights im picking will only be between me and someone else, which sucks because fights are most active when everyone is fighting. Alright, to answer this question, I would cop you since you are pushing town for activity but still at the same time could easily be you, I would also watcher you since you seem like the best slot to kill, and vig Litt, a slot that could easily be scum, but also provides some useful information from their flip. ooh spicy. tell me more about litt flipping |
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Post by Bomb Moss on Sept 28, 2020 9:42:34 GMT
Another reason why I don't like reading people for lack of content is that instead of trying to make do with the crumbs of content on the floor, you should be encouraging content instead. Read people for what is, not what is not. what, did you think I had reads that I just wasn't outing for some reason? Maybe a few questions can get some discussion going. If you had one of the following power roles, who would you use them on and why? (Cop/vig/watch) Regarding that question, all the other inactives should answer it too, maybe this can fix this game's activity. Or else the fights im picking will only be between me and someone else, which sucks because fights are most effective when everyone is fighting. late ebwop |
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Post by bluegummybear on Sept 28, 2020 11:38:20 GMT
Quick post
1. EDj is scum, stop ignoring him
2. im voyeur
I dont have anymore time to make any post. bye bye
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Post by chapterseven on Sept 28, 2020 14:40:19 GMT
Wait can spiderz not math?
Why is deadline 2 days from now if it's supposed to be 48/24
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Post by chapterseven on Sept 28, 2020 14:42:33 GMT
Also really would like to know if it's Maj or Plur regardless host said twilight is legal so I'm gonna continue to talk until night is confirmed but not switch votes in case spiderz made a mistake and dl is supposed to be today. if dl is actually supposed to be Wednesday one of the host let me know
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